I don’t want to be rude, but the idea you can fairly review anything is a bit much.
@Blastukay8 сағат бұрын
Save yourself the headache and get a powerwall instead of this. It's now on version 9 of the battery firmware and there are still SoC issues that they cannot seem to fix. Beta software seems to be the theme for this company.
@marisrozentals227410 сағат бұрын
Attention low quality plastic parts inside.Unprognosable liftime high risk of leakage.When it happens in waranty time they replace the part but dont repair damaged appartment.
@AllenHart99912 сағат бұрын
Amazing video as always. Editing is a new level.
@paulnextlevelbusiness225712 сағат бұрын
Thumbs down. You can’t have more than 1 connected so limited on battery capacity, it’s not compatible with other Giv inverters and batteries, it can’t go outside, support won’t be great. Mickey Mouse product sadly.
@sdtunstall12 сағат бұрын
Didn't watch the video through did you 😂
@paulnextlevelbusiness225712 сағат бұрын
Not sure you understood about beta either. Beta is code for sort of works.
@sdtunstall12 сағат бұрын
@paulnextlevelbusiness2257 I stated nothing about what it could or couldn't do bud. You made a sweeping statement about it not working in conjunction with other batteries which is false, and that it won't go outside yet it can, with caveat of it being affected by climate. Keep on talking halve truths though, I'm sure it's served you well upto now 😉
@paulnextlevelbusiness225712 сағат бұрын
@@sdtunstall no sweeping statements all true, I wanted to add one to my existing Giv setup, not possible according to them (not officially supported). Also my existing Giv multi inverter setup wasn’t officially supported either and should work but doesn’t and no support. I have lived with these products and what is/isn’t supported and what does/doesn’t work. Junked the lot and moved to multiple Tesla Powerwalls (installed by Heatable) and they work seamlessly and as described, no beta or half compatibilities. Trying to save others from wasting their valuable money and time.
@MrRogerWild10 сағат бұрын
Hey Ben, I couldn’t have explained it any better myself. Honest review: my AIO is great. I was aware of the cold issue before installation, so as you’ve seen, I opted for installation in the garage right next to the consumer unit and meter. I’m aware of numerous GivEnergy customers who have had issues with AIO, but when you read between the lines, it has generally been down to bad installs. In their early days, there were some software and firmware issues, but it seems that these have been ironed out. I too had a few SOC issues just after installation caused by software and firmware, but between Heatable and GivEnergy, these were swiftly resolved, and the system hasn’t blipped since. I am very pleased with it. I would recommend the GivEnergy AIO. The Tesla may be considered better by some, but it also comes at a higher cost. The AIO is great value for money, with a long warranty, but I always tell people to do their homework to make sure it works for them. The breaking news made me giggle about the 2nd AIO in parallel as you guys are already arranging the install of the 2nd unit 😊
@adus12312 сағат бұрын
its good but you can't put it outside so big thumbs down from me
@connordines6678 сағат бұрын
You can with a canopy
@batdroid2705Күн бұрын
brillant video. Thanks
@PiratesBlackVTiКүн бұрын
We need the pw3 video 👍✌️
@Heatable21 сағат бұрын
Coming to the channel this month 👀
@thomasjacques5286Күн бұрын
I wanted to add PW3s to my existing Enphase PV system with their IQ8A micro inverters and was just informed the PW3 currently doesn't work with my gear. So my installer suggested some Enphase 5Ps or the PW2. He did say the PW2 would be much cheaper offer more backup power and take up less wall space in my garage. So he's working up an estimate. I was informed my local utility will give me a $300 per kWh CASH REBATE, so I'd be getting $9100 back as a CASH REBATE. So while I wanted LFP I can live with the PW2. Great video and you answered all my questions.
@JOOI525Күн бұрын
Ben? Who? ...this was your best video yet. Roger, my kind of man. Only thing missing was Alan Hart 😂
@HeatableКүн бұрын
Class, we'll see if Allen's free next time😂
@douglaughton76263 күн бұрын
Parts availability is a big factor for me. Why Alpha so expensive to repair and parts are always 2-3days in my experience. All others are over counter or next day. Worcester gets a bad rap but their aftermarket care is exceptional
@MrMedicalUK5 күн бұрын
That was painful to watch at points When Alan tried to correct him about the d2
@dejanantic44365 күн бұрын
Viessmann vitodens 050 is better than vaillant ecotec plus? No chance. Vitodens 050 turned out to be one of the worst boilers for me, and Vaillant the best. It's a wonder that no one mentions Remeha boilers.
@michaelwinkley23027 күн бұрын
Best Heatable video in a while. "Blowing your cock off... ...or whatever men in hi-viz jackets do." 😂 I must admit, there's a bit of creative editing in there.
@Heatable6 күн бұрын
Hey Michael, thanks so much for this feedback, glad we kept you entertained 😂
@michaelwinkley23026 күн бұрын
@@Heatable Genuinely good video though. It can be hard to come up with new content, so it was great to see a fresh approach being taken on this one. Enough technical information, but not overloaded. Funny in a number of ways, a just good to see things from the perspective of an actual customer without the focus being solely on them.
@Heatable6 күн бұрын
@@michaelwinkley2302If you've ever got any suggestions we'd love to hear them!
@eddierourke38787 күн бұрын
5:43 took me off guard 🤣
@Heatable6 күн бұрын
😂😂
@rolandrohde7 күн бұрын
Roger needs to delve into Home Assistant...I think he would love it...😇
@UpsideDownFork7 күн бұрын
Best video yet. 😊 Roger is my kind of guy! 😅
@Heatable6 күн бұрын
He sure knows his stuff!
@aidandillon95208 күн бұрын
More heat pump content would be good
@Heatable6 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment! We'll definitely keep this in mind then 😄
@MrRogerWild8 күн бұрын
Thanks Guys, the video is awesome, a big thank you too everyone back at heatable who have help me achieve a self sustaining of grid solution and making some money too 👍 Just need GivEnergy to pull their finger so we can add the 2nd AIO battery
@Heatable6 күн бұрын
Our pleasure Roger, thanks for being so great letting us film this video!
@GraceEcomm10 күн бұрын
Thank you
@evocultiva935610 күн бұрын
Where/When can you buy these?
@stephenb898211 күн бұрын
Jeeze … as a heating engineer I have never heard so much bull
@G2Dynamics13 күн бұрын
that intro was funny
@elliekearney369714 күн бұрын
Eh. The "fireman's switch" has to be mounted within 2 meters of the solar panels. Mains power gets cut "firemans switch" isolates the DC in the attic space. No DC anywhere after the switch.
@weechid978416 күн бұрын
How do you switch the bloody thing off? My Comfort plus II rf thermostat has failed and I can't get the heating off.
@simonflint530317 күн бұрын
I have old, (2013) Enphase Microinverters here in australia on 8 old but expensive 300w panels. I have a Solis string inverter (2019) on very cheap 300w panels. I have a brand new Sungrow string inverter (2024) on good quality 440w panels. Out of the three systems, suprisingly, the ancient Enphase inveters are the most efficient for their wattage. It's not a gimmick, they actually are by far the best. Out of the two string systems, the cheap one is every bit as efficient as the medium quality. SO my advise is this, buy Enphase if you can afford, but if you can't afford, don't hesitate to get even the cheapest alternatives because they still work well imo. Enphase micro's are the most impressive though, and the installation is by far the neatest and simplest.
@xXAbdulBaqiXx17 күн бұрын
bifacial works better if you have a gap of 4 meters. Or perhaps you can paint the roof white so it reflects more light to the back of panel.
@arjunsamuel18 күн бұрын
How does it compare to the Enphase with micro inverters?
@Heatable17 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. We'll be doing a full comparison review in the coming month or so
@dadreview998420 күн бұрын
I don't like EV man sorry.
@jmt97920 күн бұрын
Dude, why are you doing a review on a product that they discontinued? It’s been out for years. The only place that you can still buy. This is in Hawaii a little late to the game. Just trying a new KZbin channel out as a hobby on an industry, you don’t understand?
@Heatable20 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. The PW2 is still available across most of Europe until mid 2025. Just because the product is due to be replaced in the UK later this year doesn't remove the curiosity to learn about it's features.
@AllenHart99920 күн бұрын
Very good video as always. Thanks.
@Heatable17 күн бұрын
Hi Allen, glad you enjoyed it
@andy984120 күн бұрын
Great explanation. I read the Powerwall 3 cuts installation down from 4 hours to 20 minutes. I look forward to your review of that
@Heatable20 күн бұрын
That would make a good video 😆
@bobmonztr21 күн бұрын
22000 usd I have 8kw inverter, 48kw battery and 12kw of solar. With out rebates, Lead carbon batteries, sealed no maintenance, can charge at 11kw and -30c with no heater, and 2600 watts in full overcast. 20kw of batteries from Sig solar is $4000, 18kw inverter $5000. Powerwall 3 +1 pack for 9k.
@Heatable21 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. Sounds like you have an impressive setup there! Do the batteries function below zero as they are lead acid chemistry, opposed to lithium?
@bobmonztr20 күн бұрын
@@Heatable lts a lead carbon,sealed,non spillable,discharge 90% max,charge and discharge at -40, they seem to loose a little capacity when cold but for 30 day you can partial charge, eg using a gen for winter charge. No bms inverter just monitors by voltage in the bank. after 6 months I checked all of them.1 v difference so no optimizer needed. Victron has lead carbon mine are XTerra there are others all a bit different specs. 12v 250a weighs 170lbs.i did a lifespan calculation looks like 14 to 16 years till it's down too 40 kw also 97% recyclable . I have a solar system vid, truly simple to install. Tesla makes good stuff but the Powerwall is too much $ for the performance.
@trickydicky16521 күн бұрын
Sounds great but what happens if you have a EV car that charges on night rate?
@Heatable21 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. Lots of clients charge their battery on the same tariff as their EV (usually, these are the cheapest options)
@JohnF-ur8fb21 күн бұрын
Will you be reviewing the enphase battery storage
@Heatable21 күн бұрын
Hi John, thanks for your comment. Yes we have a review of each model coming to the channel, plus a full comparison.
@MYNAMEISGARY22 күн бұрын
One of the cringiest things I've ever seen. You are awful at your job and not funny. You should delete this so you don't get further embarrassed.
@adon867222 күн бұрын
Nice video but they are some exaggerations. Most string inverters have start up voltage ranging from 80-150V, not 300V as stated in this video. Some string inverters like the goodwe ES G2 have startup voltage as low as 58V and mppt range of 60 - 550V. Why some installers feel it's necessary to oversell micro inverters is what I don't get. Micro and string inverters have their respective pros and cons so claiming one type is best for all situations is simply ridiculous. Also claiming that bifacial panels installed very close to a dark roof generate 18% more power is neither realistic nor believable unless they are being compared with non-equivalent low end solar panels.
@Jakdaw24 күн бұрын
You're installing a hybrid inverter in the loft in 2024? Aren't wiring regs changing to make batteries in the loft verboten? How far away could you install a battery, in the future, without huge losses from the DC run?
@Heatable20 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment. PAS 63100: 2024 related to recommendations around siting of batteries. GivEnergy have released their own guidance on this following the PAS 63100: 2024 release. Ideally, where space allows we would avoid loft spaces.
@Neilukuk25 күн бұрын
I live in a council bungalow that has solar panels on roof, do you know if they would allow me to get a battery installed?
@Heatable24 күн бұрын
Hi Neil, this would be down to your local authority to decide.
@rogerthomas704026 күн бұрын
Can you address one question - what is the value of using bi-facial panels on a roof install where the amount of reflected light onto the back is likely to be limited?
@TheRonskiman23 күн бұрын
The benefits will be minimal. Bifacial are designed to be used where light can be reflected on to the back of them, ideally installed meters above the surface, not on a roof.
@rogerthomas704023 күн бұрын
@@TheRonskiman The question was aimed at Heatable as they are the ones who installed the panels.
@TheRonskiman22 күн бұрын
@@rogerthomas7040 I know, but do you really think they are going to answer the question? If answered honestly it would undermine / contradict their advertising, other option is to lie.
@Heatable20 күн бұрын
Hi Roger, thanks for your question. This gets asked a lot so we're putting a comparison test video together at the moment. All will be revealed. Importantly though, we only ever quote the front sheet power rating when sizing systems for our clients. Any upside is a bonus 😀
@Heatable20 күн бұрын
@@TheRonskiman Hi, thanks for your comment. We've answered the question above, we'll be uploading the comparison test in the coming month. All our proposals use the front sheet KWp ratings, which in this case is 440w.
@AllenHart99926 күн бұрын
Who is doing the editing. Do they want to come and work for me lol, Another good video. Thanks.
@Heatable21 күн бұрын
😃
@JohnCoffins26 күн бұрын
The material in those batteries are mined by African slaves and brought across the ocean by a giant boat that emits more carbon than Taylor Swift. I'll take my fossil fuels thank you.
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
You say micros start at 9v Vs single inverter needs 300v. But each cell is 0.5v it's the amps that change based on the sunlight. I have 4 panels on a string 4x40v. In low light produce at 0.2amps in full sun at 12 amps. It's volts x amps and amps rise with the sun. Volts hardly change.
@adon867222 күн бұрын
...and most string inverters have start up voltage ranging from 80-150V, not 300V as stated in this video. Some string inverters like the goodwe ES G2 have startup voltage as low as 58V and mppt range of 60 - 550V. Why some installers feel it's necessary to oversell micro inverters is what I don't get. Micro and string inverters have their respective pros and cons so claiming one type is best for all cases is simply ridiculous.
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
You say that battery will fail in time. But really rested for 8000 cycles. That's over 25 years of daily cycling. So very very unlikely anyone is seeing these fail in a medium time frame. Otherwise good video
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
16*£130 micro inverters is a lot more expensive than 1x£400-800 inverter.
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
Enphase have not even come up with a micro inverter rated to the 440w (actually 500w given double glass). So your panels are being clipped by enphase limits. Otherwise a good video. Well made
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
Shading from a soft edged cloud miles in the sky is also so far away as to cause zero difference on a roof. So really don't list clouds. Trees chimneys bird poo moss
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
REA panels from Australia. And you're saying they're designed for British low light in winter. That's not really correct... Designed for the UK?
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
Not true that all16 would be worse because of shading on 1 panel. All inverters that size would have 2 strings. Only one string would be worsened. So max the other 7 Shocked you're misreprting this basic knowledge. Also panels like that have some individual isolating abilities. The string power would drop. But not as bad as you say.
@markyates574427 күн бұрын
The REA panel has a rated efficiency of 23% that's the same as JA solars 23% also double glass black panel. Several others have 23% panels. You're slightly over stating the uniqueness of REA. Also every one of them has a +0-5w positive tolerance on their leaflet. None I've seen state +/-5w
@singlendhot862827 күн бұрын
JA is low end Chinese rubbish. No comparison to REA / REC etc.
@serraios198926 күн бұрын
@@singlendhot8628 REC not comparable to REA
@rogerthomas704026 күн бұрын
You can find a number of vendors who make statements about their products such as "Module efficiency up to" or for one vendor their warranty states "During the first year, {The company} warrants the actual power output of the Products will be no less than 97.5% of the labeled power output." which is stated on a 575W panel for 2.5% possible drop is a fair amount. Both are ways to not have to state a firm +- value. As long as you find the fine print it is easy to work out the real 'value' of a panel.
@StefanHolmes25 күн бұрын
@@singlendhot8628and how do they perform as the temperature of the panel increases? Better or worse than REA?
@singlendhot862825 күн бұрын
@@StefanHolmes REA = Rolls Royce JA Solar = MG That is the best way to describe the two. There is no comparison.