@@sircheese109 30 liters is the smallest you can go. 3 crabs Max! If its a vertical style tank it's too small. To keep the humidity up you need a lid that covers it fully with small holes for airflow. Spraying will depend on the room the tank is in the light etc. Sometims once a day sometimes once a week.

@IndoorEcosystem It won't be in direct sunlight, but at certain times of day it will get small amounts of sunlight, roughly an hour or 2 depending on the weather and time of year. But thanks for the advice!

@@sircheese109 will it have light though? Lights will still help rie the heat and add humidity

@@IndoorEcosystem and I'm actually scraping the idea of the 30 litre as i think I'm going to go with a 45 litre now as it's probably easiest

@IndoorEcosystem It will have an led light something like the fluval aquasky

Nope! There is an ant 😉 First person in thousands of views to point it out!

You're welcome 😊 I hope everything is back on track.

😂 Fighting machines!

They are very spoilt!

@@IndoorEcosystem they are🤣🤣🥰🥰🥰❣️❣️

@@FunGuy275-jm5pl I have too many to really count so they will all be called Tom 😂 short for tomato

I love it 😂❤

@@Billbeaux dead is best but not required to be dried. Live ones can cause issues in the tank.

@@Bio-Bridge new to me 😊

@IndoorEcosystem aww do hope it is bud see wot it's like wen coulors out propper

Don't really remember. A couple of small cups is usually only a few bucks though

Well said! Thanks for dropping the comment. This kind of approach doesn't get the attention it deserves sadly. So I'm really glad you feel the same about it 😊 I've got some different methods coming in futures videos that show some cool alternatives though.

🤣 So true!

Probably I have a stack queued up for a month or so, so potentially a double in the mix every so often.

Proper Gang wars! I've finally managed to break your ability to be first 😅I overwhelmed you with daily posts 🤣

@@IndoorEcosystem Haha or did you now? Could it all have been a part of an elaborate plan of mine? 😆😉😉

I covered it briefly in the video but here is a video that uses the optimal method: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJfPaqKwjr2UmNEsi=xjav_bmHpNSxH5sP All of the other build videos i have on the channel use this process as well. It's the best method by a mile.

I would have liked to see him get down!

@@IndoorEcosystem haha he probably wanted to go sky diving😂😂

@@FunGuy275-jm5pl 🤣 He's overly optimistic!

It really depends how well you set it up and how old it is before you go away. Generally you can easily go 2 - 3 weeks if it's fully bio active and has been set up for a while. But if it's new and still settling in it's best to have someone feed them. Older tanks are always more stable 🙂

@@IndoorEcosystem Awesome, that is actually really cool that the tank can be fully self-sustaining! How long does that take, a couple of months or a year? And does it require any other coinhabitants in the tank than springtails?

@@gumlemanden I'd say about 3-4 months is usually enough. Springtails, Isopods, earthworms, snails and shrimp are the best additions. They all self regulate populations and don't over compete the space. Obviously the bigger the tank the better the success as well. It's the standard case of population vs environment size. 🙂

@@IndoorEcosystem Sounds good! Are there any indicators to look out for to know when these conditions are reached?

@@gumlemanden You'll get to understand your little ecosystem as it evolves but usually the best sign is when you see all sorts of little micro fauna getting around the tank. springtails everywhere, isopods dotted around etc. A good thing to help the system is to add a fair bit of leaf litter to the bottom of the tank. This helps a lot. As it breaks down just top it up.

The "Iconic" Pose!

Not often they'll hang upside down like this though. It's quite an odd place for him to get to.

This was a first for me too. And I've never seen it since!

Im so confused, how did he get there in such a position 😮😅😂​@@IndoorEcosystem

@@IndoorEcosystem defo grate climbers lol shocked to see one we're he was tho lol

It's slowly getting there! :)

Thank you! It coming long nicely. I'm looking forward to seeing it in another 6 months when some of the newer corals ha e grown a bit

I agree. You need a huge tank to make it work for fish otherwise it's unfair to the fish

@IndoorEcosystem ya fully bud like it as cracked me mind a cupple of times but feel like to make it work wood need a massive tank an long have 70land to 30 water an won't wonna go to deep like 12 to 15cm max just to give the fish bit more liters liken but that's relly close to being to deep for crabs lol 😆

@@Bio-Bridge Even though they can't swim water depth doesn't really matter as long as they can get in and out there won't be any problems. They know their limits 🙂

@IndoorEcosystem that's makes sence never filled the water higher then about 12cm lol probs bit more felt nervous then as I look at them more land then water like but the shrimp love it smashing work tho bud propper

I have an entire guide on breeding on the channel. Check it out it should help a lot.

Similar! It's some kind of staghorn though I'm not sure the exact one. Even after all this time.

Yep! Mine drag them everywhere even into their holes. The same with salvinia sometimes too.

@@IndoorEcosystem that's so scary and cool lol

Solid idea but doesn't work when have your hardscape is sticking above the tank 😅

@@IndoorEcosystem it’s just plastic. Cut around the part that sticks out.

Yep! I still only have 1 big Disco in this tank but he has two spots he sits in during the night. Usually up high on the left waiting for isopods. The other is how to sneaks into the water. It's pretty cool to see.

I'm not 100% sure on the filament as these ones come from UNDR: undr.life/aff/1/ He's the designer and printer. I'm just the test subject! But my crab seems to love them.

@IndoorEcosystem makes sence all round nice one ill have a look

Using PETG or a food safe certified filament will likely be safest!

@thediplomat1124 see I thought pegt as its fish safe nice one bud

@@Bio-Bridge Very good chance! He uses them in his aquariums and they look great too.

45x45x45cm will be perfectly fine. The smallest I'd ever go is 40x25x25cm (about 6 gallons) You'll have a good amount of vertical space to work with as well!

@@IndoorEcosystem how many vampire crabs can i keep?6(20+ gallons)?

@@Ehdjsjdjjhhgbju Start low. Either 3. 1 male 2 females or 6. 2 males 4 females and let them breed into the space. Having more space to breed in with a lower population is the best process. If you have too many they'll eat their babies pretty fast.

@@IndoorEcosystem just clarifying, it counts as a 20 gallon vampire crab tank right

@@Ehdjsjdjjhhgbju Ah, Sorry I have so many comments I didn't realize this thread. I wouldn't go more than 3 based on the base size. Going by pure volume is only half the story as most of the vertical space isn't habitable. So you need to work off the base foot print where the soil will be. If that makes sense. Start with 3 and they'll breed into the space.

Shrimp and crabs is such a good combo. It's super interesting watching them try to eat shrimp but quite often failing!

@IndoorEcosystem tru tru bud iv only just started keeping both in same tank lol watched very hard for first 2 hours to.see if thay was fast anuth thay defo get out the ways iv only ever lost one shrimp an he was on the ways out like

@@Bio-BridgeThe same experience I've had. Shrimp are just too quick!

@@IndoorEcosystem like lil flash gordens lol 😆

Heat cables is something I still need to experiment with at some stage. They are probably the easiest to hide in a setup. Especially a small one!

This has been one of my favourite builds so far!

This is my second longest running tank at the moment super stable and lots of babies

Missed the best part setting up the camera sadly. But I'll keep trying!

Thank you 😊

Eazy to thank wen ur tank looks like urs bang on bud

I have a challenge for you!! 😁 Do the same thing with clay 😉 It's super fun! I've been using a fair bit of it for new builds (coming later in the year)

@@IndoorEcosystem I'm sure you'll cover it in those videos, but what type of clay do you recommend?

@@justGoron I just ordered 8kgs from a terrarium shop. I'm not entirely sure what it was though. Theres's no real details on any of the listings either. But it seems to be working well without any side effects.

I have another video about the entire process. It's quite easy to be honest. Aquasoil and a light no co2 😉

Yes I have since watched it . Thnx !

@@mikeylikey0889 Perfect! Good luck with your project ☺

Now you can show him! 😆

They are all still plastic 😉 Some also have mold and pest inhibitors so should be avoided at all costs! There are some aquatic friendly ones that are especially designed for water use. Though they are hard to come by in a lot of places and usually quite expensive!

@@IndoorEcosystemI see what you mean I bought one that is fish and water safe but was harder to find and more expensive

Also I was curious is you had a discord server for your fan base

@@FunGuy275-jm5pl Yep linked on the main page. Lots of crab experts in there now!

Ok cool

Nope just normal aquarium lights are fine

Not pretentious at all! 😊 I used to be quite a big fan of their channel but All of their vampire crab tank setups are horrendously bad. On top of it they mix the species up as well... I've attempted to explain these issues several times without much luck. So I'm accepting that animal welfare comes second to Aesthetics. Realistically it's not hard to do both... What you say about carving foam is true though, there is quite a skill involved that take a little while to master and really get down to an art. But You can also do some pretty sweet things with cork and clay too 😉 I've got a fair few videos lined up showing so good foam alternative processes. I think you'd appreciate it just as much.

@IndoorEcosystem I agree that their setups are not great for vampire crabs. However, this may sound cruel, but I really don't think vampire crabs need to always be able to burrow. They honestly just need a small crevice to hide, and this is easily achieved with just some plants and foliage. It's hard to gauge how 'happy' they are either way

@@SomeGuy-qd3li I'd consider it the same as a human having a home or sheltering under a bridge 😅 Adding soil is about as simple as it gets... You just spoon a few inches in and you have made their life 100x better. I currently have 7 different species and all of them dig holes and live in the ground. It's where they spend most of their time and how the stay out of trouble, especially females. It's their best protection against males looking to mate 24/7 Once a crab is in a burrow it is next to impossible for them to fight as they don't usually have enough room to swing their claws around. Without soil and burrows you also dramatically drop their breeding rates as females are the ones that benefit the most from burrows. At the end of the day though if you're going to keep an animal and show everyone else around the world how to keep them you should aim to do it to the highest possible standard. 🙂 Maybe I'm just "Old fashion" 🤣

I just built my second 40 gallon paludarium for vampire crabs complete with waterfall and a " river". The back wall is entirely spray foam carved, painted,and dry brushed with several colors if acrylics. Nobody that's seen it has figured out that the rocks are fake and it's gorgeous if I do say so myself. No problems so far.

@@rickyravioli1613 You won't have any issues with it at all 😊 but over time you might not appreciate it as much 😉

I'm not in Australia. I live in Poland. 😊 Vampire Crabs are a banned species in Australia (biosecurity risk) There are some native species options that come out of NT if you are looking for crabs though.

@@IndoorEcosystem thanks bro

@@isaacpasnin1420 No worries 🙂

Zapraszam na drugi kanał, tam to dopiero mam wybitny akcent! 😉😂@DomowyEkosystem

Thank you ☺