MSD Distributer Spring Problems
7:19
Distributor Options for your SBF
35:53
1978 Mustang II Custom Dash Panel
23:02
Priming my SBF Oil System
10:51
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SBF Cam Retainer & Cam Thrust
9:19
Installing Pistons in my SBF
21:22
Checking Mahle Ring Gap
10:29
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SBF Oil Return & Galley Plug Mods
9:12
Bill's Garage
6:30
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@tonyrusso195
@tonyrusso195 Күн бұрын
Like the pro safe rear fill tank with the pull down license plate idea.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage Күн бұрын
Someone also suggested a Cougar fuel tank with a similar arrangement, but I'm definitely leaning towards a fuel cell.
@SPAZALOT
@SPAZALOT 3 күн бұрын
the 78 Mustang ll I am building my son I cut out the rear spare tire well and surrounding floor, fabricated a square frame with 2"x2" square mild steel tube to fit between the rear frame rails, welded that in and bought a 1967/68 Mercury Cougar gas tank to fit in that opening, also used a 2 1/2" hole saw to cut out for the fill tube to go behind a 67/68 cougar pull down license plate holder and fill neck tube, hole in driver rear quarter is deleted, cougar tank is 16 gallons, mustang ll tank is 13 gallons
@SPAZALOT
@SPAZALOT 3 күн бұрын
you can even upgrade to a 69/70 cougar gas tank with 22 gallons
@SPAZALOT
@SPAZALOT 3 күн бұрын
Chassis connectors
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 күн бұрын
Interesting - this would give me 16 gallons without having to use the aux tank in the wheel well, and I like the idea of the pull-down license plate holder. Thanks for letting me know what worked for you!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 күн бұрын
Even better!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 күн бұрын
Working on it - got a set from Stumpy's Fabworks.
@larrywarner9314
@larrywarner9314 6 күн бұрын
I'll tell you like i did another guy they make spacers for those oil pumps on ford 289 and 302 , when you need to use them!!!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 күн бұрын
Yes, I've seen them, but I've never seen a longer oil pump driveshaft offered. When you space the pump out from the block, you lose the corresponding amount of driveshaft engagement with the pump, weakening the system. You also need to change the geometry of your oil pump pickup, which is a lot of work when compared to a little bit of time with a grinder.
@larrywarner9314
@larrywarner9314 6 күн бұрын
You can purchase aftermarket main caps also , im not a for guy , but if I'm going to build a 347 stroker or bigger cubic inch engines im going to buy and aftermarket bolck , Dart, Blueprint, Speedmaster something that has billet four bolt splayed caps in the center three caps ,
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 күн бұрын
I can't see paying $4,500 for a block when I'm running horsepower numbers that are well within the capability of the stock block to handle. I'm not building a race car, I'm building a fun toy, no need to complicate things with unnecessarily expensive and one-off race car parts.
@joelubner3879
@joelubner3879 11 күн бұрын
Great Explanation Thanks!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 күн бұрын
Glad to help, thanks for watching!
@GaryH-pw9cm
@GaryH-pw9cm 13 күн бұрын
Harrop makes a supercharger kit for the 302 -351that will increase the power to over 700 HP. Not cheap though. 😙
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 күн бұрын
That's a lot of HP to try and put through a stock block!
@GaryH-pw9cm
@GaryH-pw9cm 4 күн бұрын
@@billsgarage True. I think the supercharger kit is for aftermarket blocks. These kits are 7K and up to about 12K each. I have been looking at this kit for my 427 W. But there are some fitment issues when installed in a T bucket. There just is not much space as these are front entrance belt driven superchargers. May have to design a special air inlet that does not look too odd. Plus I need to find a place for the supercharger liquid cooling radiator. Have not figured that out so far.
@ChrisStura
@ChrisStura 19 күн бұрын
I own a 74 mustang 2 September 73 build date love it better looking than anything made today
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 17 күн бұрын
Awesome - I love the longer nose on the '74s. It's only about 3" longer than the '75 - '78s but makes a big difference.
@daren9721
@daren9721 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!!!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 17 күн бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
@mortimersnerd9991
@mortimersnerd9991 24 күн бұрын
I agree that an HV oil pump in a 302 isn't usually a good idea. I had one that would run fine at idle, but driving it around, it would empty the pan. I also have a II, with its small oil pan made for a bad combination. I'm using trickflow heads. I ended up welding my own 7Q pan and replaced the oil pump with a standard one because of this.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 17 күн бұрын
In my '77. I switched from stock to a Milidon 8qt pan (which fits pretty well after a few strategic hammer blows) after my high-volume pump drained the pan, and it worked out pretty well with the increased capacity but I never stopped worrying about it! Thanks for watching!
@arthurcaesar2200
@arthurcaesar2200 26 күн бұрын
Good stuff. I am getting ready to refresh a 289 for 64 Fairlane. May I ask what the part number is for the piston you used and what compression you were aiming to get?
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 25 күн бұрын
I'm not sure of the part# for the pistons because they came as part of my Eagle B14003030 rotating assembly kit. I was aiming for somewhere around 9.5:1 and10:1. Coincidentally, this 289 originally came out of a '64 Fairlane, good luck with yours and thanks for watching!
@mjschaeffer2112
@mjschaeffer2112 Ай бұрын
Great explanation on your process on checking pushrod length. Very helpful.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@markroberts1301
@markroberts1301 2 ай бұрын
Do you have flow/dyno or 1/4 mile performance data to compare the performance of the heads? Im working on a set of iron 351 heads now for a daily driver build I'll be happy to get 1 hp per cubic inch since everything will be mild
@billsgarage
@billsgarage Ай бұрын
No, the 289 and 351W heads were done many years ago when I was active duty military, and I didn't have access to a flow bench or dyno. I did plenty of street racing with friends, and the car seemed faster with each evolution, but we were just in it for the fun, not the data. Thanks for watching!
@markroberts1301
@markroberts1301 Ай бұрын
@@billsgarage cool, wasn't sure if you had been to the strip with it. 1/4 mile times Tell a lot Thanks for your service, I am retired Navy myself
@swingdow
@swingdow 2 ай бұрын
Did the belt come with the kit or separately?
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 2 ай бұрын
The belt came with the kit, and it's a high quality Gates 8-rib belt. Thanks for watching!
@MichaelCoger
@MichaelCoger 2 ай бұрын
I built my 334 from my 289 . Didn't even need to clearance the bores for the rods. I used a kit from CNC Motorsports.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't know you could go that big without clearancing for the rods. Awesome! Thanks for watching.
@harmankardon478
@harmankardon478 3 ай бұрын
nice!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@PeterBrown-r9m
@PeterBrown-r9m 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure your real name is charlie..and having the three ladies perform"Very hazardous duties"is whats really going on..(positive comment number 3)
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 2 ай бұрын
Good morning Angels...😂🤣
@kennethbrown5784
@kennethbrown5784 3 ай бұрын
People that say a girdle are useless never put a piece of IKEA furniture together much less an engine
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
🤣😂
@robertoudokrapf453
@robertoudokrapf453 3 ай бұрын
OLÁ Bils 15/08/24 Para motores normais é possível um concerto mais preciso e sem mexer nos rebaixes para válvulas no TOP do pistão. Vai requerer uma retificadora com conhecimentos melhores de geometria. Nada sugiro por que se for mal executado o normal seria me culpar. Roberto Udo Krapf
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@leontube007
@leontube007 3 ай бұрын
What kind of engine cradle is that? looks like its on backwards?
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
It's from Stumpy's Fabworks - same guy who built my subframe connectors and traction bars. It's installed in the correct orientation. Thanks for watching!
@PeggyParrow
@PeggyParrow 3 ай бұрын
Old ED Smith says, whatever you do with the sbf. Torque the mains on before you bore and hone it, this fellow below, has the right idea, i think, by enlargeing the bolts to 1 half inch bolt holes, and use studs . The reason for all this is, the sbf block is not very ridged and has been found to move around a lot, also use a torque plate when honing. Hope this helps.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
Sound advice, thanks for watchng!
@VGHCX
@VGHCX 3 ай бұрын
Duct Tape and 550 cord is what I have always used to keep my engines bottom end secured. It never fails.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
I have plenty of both as a backup!
@thatonegamer6032
@thatonegamer6032 4 ай бұрын
What wiring harness did you use and where can we buy it?
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
I bought it from Johnny Law Motors: www.johnnylawmotors.com/mi/Avh264fX/1974-1978-mustang-ii-wire-harness-upgrade-kit-fits-painless-complete-terminal
@Oasis-sheepdog-333.
@Oasis-sheepdog-333. 4 ай бұрын
What pistons are thouse and is the valve 2.02 reason i ask i need a piston i know that clears with world product 64cc 2.02 valve
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
They are Mahle pistons. I bought them as part of my Eagle B14003030 347ci rotating assembly.
@videosolutions9828
@videosolutions9828 4 ай бұрын
druaspark I duraspark II then switched to tfi thin foil ignition.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
I used Duraspark for a long time, but MSD is my favorite. Thanks for watching!
@videosolutions9828
@videosolutions9828 4 ай бұрын
Heat issues the V8 would make the battery explode . They had V8 south of the boarder do to not having emission, the catalytic converters were to blame
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 3 ай бұрын
I've never heard of that being a problem, but my battery is in the trunk, so that wouldn't be an issue for me.
@jeremyjenks
@jeremyjenks 4 ай бұрын
Im working on my very first build with zero background in mechanics so this was very helpful for my journey. thanks!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear you found it helpful! I checked out your page, looks like you're off to a great start on your project.
@jeremyjenks
@jeremyjenks 4 ай бұрын
I need a neighbor like you bro
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Same!
@jeremyjenks
@jeremyjenks 4 ай бұрын
rad
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jeremyjenks
@jeremyjenks 4 ай бұрын
dude where are you located? I have a snake pit im working on too! I don't know why but I'm tinkering with it.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
On the East coast of Florida near Cocoa/Melbourne.
@jeremyjenks
@jeremyjenks 4 ай бұрын
proper demonstration
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Anthony-qj7qe
@Anthony-qj7qe 4 ай бұрын
I tried installing a PowerMaster starter on my 74 Corvette with a small block Chevy and could never get it to work right. I'm using a points setup so I had to get a wire with a diode (not supplied) The problem is, that sometimes it would work and some times it wouldn't. I also had to do some modifications, shims, diode wire etc.. that I never had to do with my OEM starter. I hated the PM starter, so as a result I got a new OEM starter and have never had a problem since. For the price they are charging for these things, you shouldn't have to modify anything.... NEVER AGAIN!!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that sounds like a real hassle, I probably wouldn't want to deal with those types of problem either! Fortunately it was a straight-forward install for this application and it works great. I guess time will tell how reliable it turns out to be. Thanks for watching!
@willwagner7222
@willwagner7222 4 ай бұрын
nice explanation. well done
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!
@michaelmorris162
@michaelmorris162 4 ай бұрын
Im a technician so ima chime in if you dont mind. Normally that would weaken the caps but aslong as all 5 caps are milled perfectly the same wich can be done and the girdle and caps seat perfectly flat on 1 another id think it would work provided you use arp hardware. And i do have 1 thought. I wonder if the girdle is modified to come down to the block so i5 can bolt to the block aswell i wonder if that would eliminate flexing even further.. i could be wrong because things do have to be able to flex slightly to accommodate the harmonics and heat cycles it endures...
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comments. I'd love to see someone design a girdle that comes down to meet the oil pan rail. If it were say a 1/4" thick full perimeter spacer on the pan rail then installation wouldn't be affected, although you'd probably need to extend the oil pump pickup too. I'll bet that would stiffen up the bottom end a lot. Too much? Maybe, but I'd be curious to try it out. Thanks for watching!
@bryanspanglerracing4574
@bryanspanglerracing4574 4 ай бұрын
Where did you get the bolts with safety wire holes for the lifter spider?
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
I get most of my specialty fasteners (including those) from McMaster-Carr. Thanks for watching!
@douglasknutsen
@douglasknutsen 4 ай бұрын
Bill , What are doing about the early 2 piece rear main seal issue using the Eagle crank that was designed for the one piece rear main seal ? Eagle says it's going to leak !
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 4 ай бұрын
Great question! The rotating assembly kit that I used is an Eagle B14003030, and the forged crank in this kit is designed to work with either a 1- or 2-piece rear main seal. I didn't want to have the machine work done to switch this engine over to a 1-piece seal, so I installed a quality 2-piece seal and it doesn't leak. I'm considering the 1-piece seal upgrade for another stroker that I'm working on, but I'm probably going to leave this one as is. Thanks for watching!
@saulmolina6738
@saulmolina6738 5 ай бұрын
289 engine is actually 2.87 in stroke!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
Yup, I've been beat up a lot in the comments about that mistake! Thanks for watching.
@1krista1969
@1krista1969 5 ай бұрын
The problem i have with most girdles is their design, how they attach to the main caps. Most of them just sandwich between the main cap fastener and cap. The issue with that is when the cap is stressed ro the point it starts lifting or moving in the register, it moves the girdle with it since the girdle is no longer held in place. The solution would be to use a nut under the main cap, then install the girdle over top of the torqued stud followed by another nut on top of that. With this scheme the main cap still has a tight grip on the girdle even if the cap starts lifting IOW, the girdle can be far more effective holding onto the cap under load, supplementing the cap rigidity and adding strength. The problem this poses is insufficient clearance to the oil pan under most conditions. You'd need a deeper oil pan in that case. I also agree a well designed girdle will only add rigidity in the horizontal plane. Only a stronger cap design with better clamping to the block will avoid most of any cap walk anyone would encounter at power levels causing significant cylinder bore distortion. Stock roller block 302s are ticking time bombs at power levels exceeding 400 fwhp, especially when high rpms are needed to produce those numbers and especially so with a marginal tune. The 50 oz imbalance is the other weekness, mainly becuase the stock cast crank floos around like a wet noodle at higher rpms. The stress of that happening puts alot of load on the stock 2 bolt caps registers with or without a girdle. A bare factory roller block only weighs about 120 lbs with caps. They are likely one of the weakest V8 platforms I've dealt with. That is why I prefer 351w based builds when a stock block is called for. These also dont have any bolts going into coolant like most newer 302s have.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
Interesting that you suggest torquing the main cap stud nuts and then placing the girdle on top of those and retaining the girdle with a 2nd nut - I am experimenting with that exact setup on another 289 block, and it looks like it's going to clear my Milidon deep sump pan with plenty of room to spare. If I go with that at some point, I'll make another video. Thanks for watching!
@johnnyhonda7576
@johnnyhonda7576 5 ай бұрын
Is this a hyd roller or tappet engine? What did you do to keep them pumped up? Just soak them?
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
It's a hydraulic roller cam, but there's no need to worry about keeping the lifters pumped up if you install checking springs on the valves. The springs inside the lifters are stronger than the checking springs installed on the valves, to the lifters will not collapse when opening the valves.
@johnnyhonda7576
@johnnyhonda7576 5 ай бұрын
@@billsgarage if you have a hydraulic roller pumped up, will it stay pumped up thru 2 revolutions of a engine if not using checking springs, for final valve adjustment?
@DanielBuchanan-oh2eq
@DanielBuchanan-oh2eq 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@johnnyhonda7576i second this question as im literally about to check pushrods tomorrow and don’t have the checking springs lol
@iancoachwerksllc
@iancoachwerksllc 5 ай бұрын
Trick flow recomends machining the caps in their instructions for their race girdle. My machine shop said to get a girdle. He is a ford guy so he was happy to do the work.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
You won't regret it. Thanks for watching!
@WDMtea
@WDMtea 5 ай бұрын
You're correct, it's not the two bolt mains that are the problem, its engine harmonics is why ppl have engine failures with these early blocks. 500HPish at the flywheel all day long.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comments!
@allanpepper9651
@allanpepper9651 5 ай бұрын
The second distributor is not electronic, it’s a passive inductor and it is Hall effect. ( no active electronics involved) it is used to interface with an amplifier device ( MSD 6 AL or similar) ….. and on that note, be warned that MSD now has their consumer distributors made in China. Their failure rate is high.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
MSD Distributors like this one are not Hall Effect, they are Variable Reluctance, as evidenced by the fact that there are only 2 wires on the sensor, as opposed to the 3 wires necessary for a Hall Effect sensor to operate. All Variable Reluctance sensors have 2 wires, and all Hall Effect sensors have 3 wires. Some of the newer MSD models do use a Hall Effect sensor, but not the one that I described. This type of distributor is an electronic one because it can't be operated without transistorized microcircuitry. You don't have to use an MSD box, you could use a Ford Duraspark, GM HEI module, or something similar in order to trigger the coil, but you can't trigger a coil directly with a Variable Reluctance sensor.
@hwy2hvn61
@hwy2hvn61 5 ай бұрын
Thanks man I had one wrong after a double check after watching this. 👍
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
@bryanmoyer6602
@bryanmoyer6602 5 ай бұрын
your pump gas can be as high 105 octane. e85 or propane are 105. when e100 is 129! octane.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
I remember seeing 105 at the pump one time when I was in the suburbs north of Detroit. I'm in Florida, and the highest we see at the pump in my area is 97. Thanks for watching!
@Burnedtoastify
@Burnedtoastify 5 ай бұрын
Great advice in this video... We built up a '96 Explorer motor (5.0 HO/GT40) and installed a TFS1 cam, spring kit and new head gaskets. Lots of tapping on start up. Turned out we needed to go from the stock 6.250 pushrods up to 6.300.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
That's a noise that will definitely get your attention! Thanks for watching.
@josephspratling3511
@josephspratling3511 5 ай бұрын
That car will be valuable one day it’s just not right now
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
Possibly, but I don't think it will ever be worth what I've invested in mine. But I'm happy with it!
@24theMoney
@24theMoney 5 ай бұрын
For high rpm (6000+) - high hp (400+) sustained use on a 302, a main girdle will help not hurt.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 5 ай бұрын
I don't know of anyone who ever regretted installing one.
@SPAZALOT
@SPAZALOT 6 ай бұрын
I had a 76 Mustang ii Ghia v-6 auto, I never noticed the quarter window difference, thank you for teaching me something, tossed a rod one night coming home from work and junked it.
@SPAZALOT
@SPAZALOT 6 ай бұрын
steel post aka B pillar lol
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 6 ай бұрын
😂🤣 Yes, thank you!
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 6 ай бұрын
The V-6 had a habit of doing that. Thankis for watching!
@bradmaas6875
@bradmaas6875 6 ай бұрын
@@billsgarage And I never had a problem with the 2.8 V6. Oil and filter and it was ready to go. Last one had over 300K, and the tranny died.
@bradmaas6875
@bradmaas6875 6 ай бұрын
I hate vinyl tops.
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 6 ай бұрын
They look awful, and I hate the rust that's under mine!
@tshepomaphosa9496
@tshepomaphosa9496 6 ай бұрын
Thanks searched and searched this is the only video that makes sense
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks for watching!
@benjaminkilmer
@benjaminkilmer 6 ай бұрын
I bought a brand new White with Blue Cobra in 1976 right after I got my first full time job. I loved that car and kept it over a decade
@billsgarage
@billsgarage 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, I'll bet you miss it!