Nice! What are the differences between the EP917TI & EP918Ti?
@EdgePerformanceNorway13 күн бұрын
Slightly more power, higher max continuous power, even more fuel efficient, but most importantly 2000hr TBO.
@boydw112 күн бұрын
@@EdgePerformanceNorway I mean, is this just tuning refinement, or is there a different turbo, larger bore (physical changes)?
@b_dvo11 күн бұрын
@@EdgePerformanceNorway I assume this is now based on the 916is platform given the TBO difference? VERY impressive stuff guys!
@adrianzbaeren13 күн бұрын
Amazing how much power you guys get out of this little displacement! I guess the mixture is getting quite rich with this power setting.
@EdgePerformanceNorway13 күн бұрын
It’s right where it need to be
@chippyjohn110 күн бұрын
It's not a small engine for the power output.
@1magnit23 күн бұрын
What about the egt?
@EdgePerformanceNorway23 күн бұрын
What about it? It’s running via the ECU, and not externally to the dyno
@1magnit23 күн бұрын
@@EdgePerformanceNorway When you lean out the AFR, the EGT goes up but you're not showing it. Max egt is at lambda 1.
@johnolsen7073Ай бұрын
Fuel range and fuel endurance are two separate things, endurance is time. Range is distance. If the pilot has a tail wind, then going to endurance power settings may be a practical choice to enhance fuel economy an/or range. Holding at an airport for weather is another. Theoretically, range power settings give the pilot more miles flown, don't forget wind effects and how much drag bug impacts, or a dirty wing, have on range? Please be conservative with "bingo fuel" calculations. Use of these two is up to the pilot and the purpose of the intended operation. As I understand it, operating an engine too lean, (piston powered aircraft) it is possible to cause damage to an engine. Accurate in flight fuel burn is a great tool. But, do not let the info lead you into making a poor decision. To the minute accuracy, UNLESS you know the exact amount of fuel you have, has the potential to lead a person astray. Having a sphincter tightening moment means, you made a poor decision. I knew a pilot once that ran critically low on fuel, his nick name was "fumes" after that. Good video thanks.
@tomg6284Ай бұрын
In aviation we get max HP by going to peak EGT then fatten the mixture. Just rich of peak EGT. EGT is very important and useful.
@chippyjohn1Ай бұрын
Its nice that you actually show your engines running, much respect to you. Any thoughts on running a GR Yaris engine?
@EdgePerformanceNorwayАй бұрын
Thanks. We focus on rotax based engines only.
@lucasporte4067Ай бұрын
Make a series of dyno videos!!
@PistonAvatarGuyАй бұрын
What happens if you lean even further, but also set MAP to obtain the desired cruise power output? Isn't LOP operation typically 16:1, or greater? Edit: Also, isn't 5,000 rpm a somewhat low cruise rpm for these engines?
@chippyjohn1Ай бұрын
If max continuous rpm is 5500, 5000 is not that low considering it is on a dyno making Max power at that rpm. On an aircraft at 5000 it would be outputting less power I imagine
@PistonAvatarGuyАй бұрын
@@chippyjohn1 My concern is BSFC. The engine might actually be more efficient at a higher rpm.
@chippyjohn1Ай бұрын
@PistonAvatarGuy Maybe. Test is carried out at sea lea level basically with high IAT and manifold pressure. At higher altitude with colder air although lower density you would be able to lean further
@PistonAvatarGuyАй бұрын
@@chippyjohn1 BSFC varies significantly over the rpm range of the engine as well, it may be more efficient at every mixture setting shown in the video at higher rpm.
@chippyjohn1Ай бұрын
@PistonAvatarGuy I know. Just realised this is their turbo engine, yet they test it without boost. 280g/kWh does seem high. I have noticed the rotaxes seem to run in this area. It does have low compression for it to be running NA, I calculate VE is only around 91% at 5000rpm
@adrianzbaerenАй бұрын
I could watch engine Dyno videos for hours! Love your engine Nerd contend! If I will ever buy an aircraft I will buy an Edge Performance engine for sure! Thank you for pushing combustion technology and general aviation with your great work! Greetings from Switzerland!
@EdgePerformanceNorwayАй бұрын
Thank you 😊
@jirikristek6530Ай бұрын
No EGT values?
@EdgePerformanceNorwayАй бұрын
Of course. All fed into the ECU where it’s corrected in closed loop and logged
@manuinsingerАй бұрын
So, what about the 'ideal' ~14,6? And what do you aim for when programming? Does it also depend on => change with rpm and especially load!?
@EdgePerformanceNorwayАй бұрын
The secret sauce we don’t share. This is part of our R&D and experiences over 18 years 😊
@manuinsingerАй бұрын
🙃
@boydw1Ай бұрын
It would be interesting to compare the 15:1 fuel consumption, vs the 14:1 consumption when manifold pressure is reduced to give the same power output as the 15:1 setting.
@percussion442 ай бұрын
MTBF 50 hours
@gabrielalejandroanguloagui40552 ай бұрын
I have a question. I'm designing a test bench for that engine. How many hours or time can this engine be tested, and can you share any links for designing a test bench for this engine?
@wallywally82823 ай бұрын
Crazy power from a 1.2+ Litre engine!
@EdgePerformanceNorway3 ай бұрын
1352cc 😉 But still
@Blodsukkerskolen3 ай бұрын
Behagelig lyd. Gleder meg til å se vidunderet i levende live i sommer.
@ianteuscher94673 ай бұрын
Is something like that somehow lsa legal? Sorry if its a stupid question (not into fliing jet😂)
@willwagner72223 ай бұрын
I wish I had one of those😢 ... awesome
@alexanderklenk21953 ай бұрын
Nice video! I work on the control systems for the Rotax ECUs. Neat seeing the work you guys are doing in comparison. How do you believe your ECU redundancy and robustness to failures compares?
@EdgePerformanceNorway3 ай бұрын
Hi. We have dual ECU setups with even more redundancy than the RC units. We also have duel coolant temp sensors, dual hall TPS sensors and dual individual ignition amplifiers.
@TheRealChetManley3 ай бұрын
Wow you guys need to offer this. Makes power so low compared to Rotax. I would be interested for sure and I think many others would too. For those that don’t want to deal with the reduction drive and high revving Rotax. This thing makes power right off idle.
@manuinsinger3 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas, Wondering why you chose an (additional?) oil cooler in the form of the Laminova C43-182 (?) In my MCR01 (as you know) the oil cooler is right behind the water cooler and in the summer my water temps are fine but my oil temps get too high (up into the red). Looking at the Laminova I was wondering if this would better balance out the oil temps!?
@EdgePerformanceNorway3 ай бұрын
Same deal on Shark. So I add heat exchanger in series with oil cooler to lower oil temp and raise coolant temp 😊
@manuinsinger3 ай бұрын
@@EdgePerformanceNorway Exactly my thoughts/hope. Alternative (for me) would be a higher oil cooler, where I could ‘block off’ the extra height in the winter, but that would entail a whole new bottom cowling ánd cowling-vent! :-( Moreover, I suppose the Laminova helps getting the oil temp slightly more quickly warm at start up…
@DS-vy5ph4 ай бұрын
Looks and sounds awesome! What switches are those that youre using?
@EdgePerformanceNorway4 ай бұрын
ETA 1110
@andersemanuel4 ай бұрын
Grattis!. Vad tyst och jämnt den gick 👌Läckert.
@feng524 ай бұрын
Excited!!
@frednorthup16574 ай бұрын
Runs sweet!
@user-ib2cs4nv4p4 ай бұрын
Awesome and verry pretty
@willjohnson39074 ай бұрын
Looks fast!
@DBGE0014 ай бұрын
Is it possible to make this engine full fadec compliant with an electronic controlled waste-gate?
@EdgePerformanceNorway4 ай бұрын
We stopped with the Yamaha engines unfortunately
@scottk95915 ай бұрын
I'm just amazed at all the engineering that went in to making this engine installation work. Quite impressive!
@EdgePerformanceNorway5 ай бұрын
Thank you. It was indeed a big challenge, and perhaps only 70% of it was covered in this video.
@portnuefflyer5 ай бұрын
My EFI kit, that I received about a month ago, for my "regular" 912S has none of these new features, interesting. Are these new features available just for a complete new engine buy?
@EdgePerformanceNorway5 ай бұрын
Not available for anyone right now. It’s undergoing testing and validation.
@savagecub5 ай бұрын
I’m gonna need a LOT more help than this video !
@barrycliborn51695 ай бұрын
What kind of results would you get if you installed EFI and turbo intercooler? Everything else stock.
@EdgePerformanceNorway5 ай бұрын
On a 914 around 126-130HP
@barrycliborn51695 ай бұрын
Thank you
@The806Traveler6 ай бұрын
So is the 165 HP continuous?
@eugeneoreilly93566 ай бұрын
You should use SI units like most of the world does.At least you got the EGT in correct units.
@wallywally82826 ай бұрын
Getting complex these days!
@EdgePerformanceNorway6 ай бұрын
Not really, old technology in the automotive world. But fairly new in aviation. Less pilot work load and increased efficiency.
@SEALwannabe1006 ай бұрын
What Prop type are yall using for this CS Prop demonstration? MT? Airmaster?
@EdgePerformanceNorway6 ай бұрын
Yes either would work fine. Or DUC Tiger 4-5 blade
@SEALwannabe1006 ай бұрын
What RPM gives 180hp? 2700?@@EdgePerformanceNorway
@Captndarty3 ай бұрын
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@divyajnana6 ай бұрын
Sanno job! Beautiful work!
@daivietnguyen72896 ай бұрын
Just wandering if the new 917Ti with 180 horsepower would fit in the Shark ??? To see that the 917Ti engine is the exact dimension with the 915 and 916, but the current engine in the Shark is the 914Ti, as if I could have the cake and eat it too, the 917Ti with 180 horsepower would make the Shark into a flying rocket indeed !!! Just get a little greedy on Christmas of course !!! :)))
@EdgePerformanceNorway6 ай бұрын
It would not due to the 915 being approximately 2” longer and too heavy CG wise. We’ve installed the EP912STi Gen2 in our new Shark which enables it to fly past Vne, so more power is really not needed.
@zonealgo6 ай бұрын
I would love this engine in a KFA Safari XL build I am thinking about starting in early 2024! I'm looking for 160 Hp to 180 Hp with turbo and lighter installed engine weight that other options.
@tinolino586 ай бұрын
I love the red hot glowing exhaust pipes. Very concerning design feature.
@tinolino586 ай бұрын
Interesting to see these red glowing exhaust pipes winding through the installation. What a nightmare!
@oldschoolmotorsickle6 ай бұрын
I take it that this is an EU-certified Light Sport design? A beautiful aircraft and I bet it’s fast! 180kts?
@EdgePerformanceNorway6 ай бұрын
Correct. It’s an ultralight, but I built this one as a EAA Experimental. 200KTAS at 12-14.000’
@MaxMustermann-nd4uy6 ай бұрын
The second one is the EP? That seems to burn 15 to 20% more fuel per kWh than the first one.
@MaxMustermann-nd4uy6 ай бұрын
What is the difference between this one and your EP917Ti? And can you run those engines in an Atkinson cycle to further improve the efficiency (at the expense of HP, but then, most ultralight airframes don't really take that much advantage of the 155 HP anyway). 100 to 120 HP for takeoff, and then high efficieny between 55 and 70 HP for cruise at fl100.
@dieterlahme86046 ай бұрын
Wonderful Work. But an Installation Nightmare for your Fingers. Regards from Germany
@kilothreeaz6 ай бұрын
Was FADEC a possibility with this engine/prop/fuel system?
@EdgePerformanceNorway6 ай бұрын
Not on the Shark. Not enough space.
@mikeryan62776 ай бұрын
Passenger should not have BRS handle
@EdgePerformanceNorway6 ай бұрын
Of course. What if I fly with my sons or wife and I get a heart attack?