I just picked up this very same rifle and can't wait to get my dies and start reloading for it. I've shot the 180gr Remingtons and at 100 yds I'm getting 3/4" groups. I'm using a Primary Arms 1-10 FFP lpvo for my optic. I'm really surprised at the accuracy from an out of the box rifle with factory ammo. I'll be shooting suppressed and can't wait to load some subsonic ammo up and she how it performs.
@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984Күн бұрын
Keyboard 🎹 Commandos 🤣🤣🤣. I love it. Great video and load.
@avidwaterfowler7522Күн бұрын
Hahahaha. There are so many of them nowadays…. Thanks for watching!
@raymondbuie52923 күн бұрын
Thank you ! Great video, really like nice useful field loads for all types of game!!!
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@rifleshooterchannel2083 күн бұрын
Yep. It and HS6 are actually my favorite shotgun powders.
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
I have almost 2 full sets of powder and shot bushings from PW for the 800 plus and then 30+ powder from hornady for the 366 and 13 shot bushings. I go through and drop multiple charges with different sizes of shot. Then, label them with an engraver. So i know which to switch to when working up load. I use a reamer to adjust to what the needed load is. A little above or below depending on powder, wad, hull, shot, and velocity. Then go to the patterning board and spend hours swapping out chokes. Then record it in a book. What euros great for storage are those large plastic containers that chocolates come in around valentimes day. They are clear, evenly spaced and have about 6 rows.
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
I designed a couple bushings to drop exactly what I want. My brother also has a lathe at his house so I’ll probably end up making steel versions of the printed versions that work.
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
@avidwaterfowler7522 I figured as much, as you Mahe and sell stuff for reloading. We have a guy out here that has a bunch of reloaders, repairs and sells them. He had a lot of parts, if you're looking for any. I can drop you his name.
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
That is a great video on that load. I have not seen those hulls around here at all, trust me im a dumpster diver for hulls. You must have 40# of pressure on that wad. STS would have pushed out the side. I would say the Herters black hulls are about as tough as those wads. Might not be able to load them as many times.
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
It’s the only way to make it fit, lol. These hulls are the toughest I’ve run across.
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
I quit using the last of the unique i have. I didn't understand how great a powder it is when listening to the guys who have been reloading a long time. It is a very versatile powder.
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
It’s unbelievably versatile.
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
I quit using the last of the unique i have. I didn't understand how great a powder it is when listening to the guys who have been reloading a long time. It is a very versatile powder.
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
I have about 7 lbs in the jug I have on video, and about real old half a pound from an old container. When it’s gone, it’s gone…. I hope Alliant offers shot shell powder by at least 2026….
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
I had rebuilt a PW 375 b that was upgraded for a shooter at our club. I was impressed with how nice the reloads turned out. Was easy to load with high gun. Had to use a 1oz wad for 1 1/ oz. High gun just doesn't fill up the area as easily.
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
Yeah, that’s the main issue with these denser powders. I believe clay buster now makes the correct shot cup, with longer cushion section to accommodate what you mentioned. When I do load with HG/TG, I only seat the wad lightly. I let the crimp do the compression. That way, I don’t get a dished in crimp. I love Alliant shot shell powders, I can’t wait until they’re available again.
@BeerInTheBackwoods4 күн бұрын
Thanks for a new video! Great job!
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
I’m expect to make 1-2 a month for a while. It’s tough making 1 a week, believe it or not.
@jeffreylocke88084 күн бұрын
That would be a great load for my Browning 725 Feather 12 gauge with 26 inch barrels and using Trulock Blackened Ported Stainless Steel Improved Cylinder and Improved Modified constrictions.
@eddieb42273 күн бұрын
Ordering the same chokes for my stoger today, just for a 20g. Going Dove hunting at moses lake in 2 weeks.
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
I’m a TruLock choke guy, make sure you check them out!
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
It’s a fantastic load indeed!
@saltcreekammo4 күн бұрын
Seasons are so close... Aweosme video. I need me a PW
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
They’re hard to beat! I got your bushings coming up in my printer que!
@saltcreekammo3 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 can't wait to try them out!!!
@harleyironhead70904 күн бұрын
great video, awesome load data
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
Absolutely, thanks for commenting!
@sebastianmassarotto56034 күн бұрын
I just loaded my 16 guage dove loads
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
I never got into 16ga, but one day I will.
@sebastianmassarotto56034 күн бұрын
Machine runs some nice crimps
@avidwaterfowler75223 күн бұрын
It’s worth the money, for sure!
@nebraskaman82474 күн бұрын
I saw your video, and was just about to say I’m sorry you bought that lol. Got one I’m waiting to sell here in about 20min. I’m so excited. Like literally this is the best day of my life. The day I get rid of this shotgun 😂.
@avidwaterfowler75224 күн бұрын
@@nebraskaman8247 it’s an absolute piece of garbage. Their customer service and quality of technicians is even lower. When I sold mine I was so excited! I couldn’t wait to take a $200 loss!!!
@nebraskaman82474 күн бұрын
That’s exactly what I was just thinking. It’s absolute garbage. Sold mine a couple of hours ago for $575.
@terenfro19755 күн бұрын
Shell review. Not a gun review.
@avidwaterfowler75224 күн бұрын
I disagree, but thanks for the comment.
@tripplebeards34278 күн бұрын
I’ve had federal hulls that I run seven or eight times now and not one to come apart. I only load them with heavy turkey loads though that aren’t super fast. Use them in my gold. I’m not over book. I even have some over a dozen times shot now that I’ve trimmed down to 2 7/8” for my Damascus SXS because the ends get brittle and crack so I trim them short. Wondering if your running them to hot and the hulls can’t take it and are letting loose?
@avidwaterfowler75226 күн бұрын
I have actually had brand new factory black cloud loads do it. I’ve never had any other 10ga hull separate like this, ever. Ched, have super thin flexible plastic and really thin steel case head, even they run flawlessly through my guns. I want to mention, this has only ever happened in auto loaders, not pumps or break actions.
@tripplebeards34276 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 helpfully I don’t run across any defective hulls. Just loaded up almost a 100 Remington , Federal, and black Winchester hulls in the last couple days. All 2.5 oz loads for turkey hunting. I can say the Winchesters mist be re branded Cheddite. When I knocked out the primers the brass mushroomed out. I flattened them back in my classic lee loader with a hammer strike. The Remington and federals stayed flat. I’ve had that with Cheddite in the past re loading RST hulls. They are pretty weak but hold up. Maybe polish the inside of your action and chamber to remove any burrs? I can tell you it’s a long process loading That many hulls by hand with a classic lee loader. Should last me a life time if I don’t plink with them…lol
@avidwaterfowler75226 күн бұрын
@@tripplebeards3427 I load a bunch since I’m mostly a waterfowler. I have had the ched and new Remington dome in, or out because of priming. The old Remington are tough as nails and they’re almost impossible to damage. As for the Winchester hulls, I’m not entirely sure about the new hulls. But the old are definitely Winchester plastic. I’ve seen old hulls with plastic and paper basewad.
@HawkEye020888 күн бұрын
Maybe I missed it. What was the velocity (fps) and pressure on this load. Thinking of trying a few of these. Love the videos!
@avidwaterfowler75228 күн бұрын
@@HawkEye02088 velocity is 1325-1350fps. It’s a very low pressure load, but this particular powder charge weight hasn’t been tested. I know someone who pressure tested 32gr at 9k psi or so.
@HawkEye020888 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 sounds good. I got some other loads I'm sending off for testing here soon. I'll have some of these tested too. Will let you know the pressure with the 34 grains
@NoMoreTyranny11 күн бұрын
Does this have pre-drilled holes for a scope, for deer hunting slugger style?
@avidwaterfowler75228 күн бұрын
It is not, but the better option is to buy the cantilever barrel. The mount comes straight off the barrel; that way it holds zero when taking the barrel off and on the gun.
@andyklesk12 күн бұрын
How hard is it to take the trigger pack apart in training to flip the safety and install a gold trigger I got thank you great video
@avidwaterfowler75228 күн бұрын
It’s really not terrible. Take pictures of everything when you are disassembling, and you’ll be fine.
@andyklesk13 күн бұрын
Hi do you have any links or a how to in regards to getting a button like that!!
@avidwaterfowler752213 күн бұрын
@@andyklesk yes, search eBay for: Nordic Components speed button or bolt release. It’s a generic button for enlarging the bolt release on autoloading shotguns.
@andyklesk11 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 Got one on the way. Thank you so much and got an extra bolt release like you did so I didn’t bugger the original. This was the first gun I ever bought at 18 I’m 19 now. I got a 2022 love I got a sure cycle for it too and the grumpy duck charging handle. I’m going to hone the chamber next. Anything else you’d recommend to try and make it as reliable as possible?
@user-dx4pm4zq8l13 күн бұрын
What brand is that button?
@avidwaterfowler752213 күн бұрын
@@user-dx4pm4zq8l Nordic components.
@user-dx4pm4zq8l5 күн бұрын
What model is it?
@avidwaterfowler75225 күн бұрын
@@user-dx4pm4zq8l it’s the speed release button.
@user-iv8hc8fm5o14 күн бұрын
Do you have a 12 gauge bismuth 2/4 shot load?
@avidwaterfowler752213 күн бұрын
You can mix shot if you wish. There will be no major changes to pressure.
@rickzamito808919 күн бұрын
I like pushing over a golf ball
@rexking369819 күн бұрын
338 federal heck yeah. I really like to hear your load data on the 338
@avidwaterfowler752219 күн бұрын
It’s one of my favorite cartridges. It’s really an amazing round for what it is. I’m currently running a 200gr bullet at 2625fps with h322 powder. I could get faster with a ball powder, but the consistency was single digits with h322!
@nickpotter482520 күн бұрын
What buffer would you use for #4 shot?
@avidwaterfowler752219 күн бұрын
I’d say the precision reloading PSB would work good, but it is a little large. BPI special mix 47 has worked well for me. A lot of people like the BSB buffer as well.
@Fatazzz23 күн бұрын
Thanks for your posting!!
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Absolutely. The best part of KZbin is the discussion with viewers.
@tangobravo888923 күн бұрын
This was a great video, thank you, some very good info. You mention that you opened up the O.D. On the brass washer, I believe you meant I.D. ? I just ordered the charge bar from Ballistic Products. It stated that it was “New For 2024”. I think the only upgrade was that now there is no assembly, I don’t think they made any changes that you suggested which they really should have. I will make the changes that you made when it arrives.
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Ah, you got me… I meant to say ID. This was one of my first videos. I actually just bought a new adjusta drop charge bar since I sold this one last year. I thought I was done with mec single stage machines, but ended up sticking with a sm82 in 410.
@tangobravo888922 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 thank you. I just reload .410 and 28 ga. and from everything I have been reading I will need to do what you have done for modifications if I want consistent powder drops for the .410. Both my 600 Jr’s Mark V’s are essentially new. One (the .410) is two years old the 28 ga which I have assembled but haven’t used yet (still have several cases of factory 28) is one year old. I was going to switch the Universal between those two loaders but have decided if I can get this first one to work with the .410 I will order another Universal. I grew up using a Stevens single shot .410 that I shared with a friend. When I retired years ago I gave myself a retirement present, a Beretta EELL Diamond Pigeon .410. I love the .410 and have wonderful memories of that little stevens. Have you been able to tweak the new Universal for the .410
@mistermusik23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the instructional. You seem handy and you’ve got a workshop. Couldn’t you have made your own button, using your preferred metal and shape?
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Ahhh, you got me…. I did mean Inner Dimension. This was one of my first videos. I actually just bought another new adjusta drop bar since I had sold this one I made the video with. I’ll test this new on for improvements. Thanks for the comment!
@harleyironhead709025 күн бұрын
Glad your back
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
It’s nice to be back at any capacity. The best part of KZbin is interacting with the viewers.
@AmericaFirstLastGlimmerOfLight25 күн бұрын
Good to see you back at brother 👍🏼
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
It’s good to be back at any capacity.
@Fatazzz25 күн бұрын
7625 was the best
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Never used it.
@Fatazzz23 күн бұрын
DuPont sr7625, 1 oz 7 1/2’s, 1310 fps, poison for the doves
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
@@Fatazzz I assume this is discontinued?
@Fatazzz23 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 yes
@Fatazzz23 күн бұрын
Yes:(
@Fatazzz25 күн бұрын
571….
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Isn’t 571 almost the same as 572 on the burn chart? I think 572 came out because 571 was discontinued.
@Fatazzz23 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 not sure….but we has a 1 3/8 oz load of 6’s that shot over 1400 fps, that was super poison for the ducks back before steel shot………winchester 571
@Fatazzz23 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 sure do miss all the old powders….of course green dot was very versatile for the ol 20
@theshotgunscientists25 күн бұрын
Man I wish I could find some 572. And yeah revenue is bad with this stuff.
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Really, You can’t find it? It’s somewhat available around here. It was super available a couple years ago and has since slowed up a bit. I’m down to my last lb. For some reason I thought I had more in stock….
@theshotgunscientists23 күн бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 Yeah man I’ve never seen it locally. Plenty of longshot, hs6, lil gun, but zero 572.
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
@@theshotgunscientists it’s definitely one of my top powders in the 20! It will treat you right is field load 12’s as well!
@Joe3popsАй бұрын
Looks like 38-55 or 375 Winchester.
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
It looks similar, but it’s way more potent.
@FatazzzАй бұрын
I have 3, two bps’ and one gold. All 24” barrels and all shoot great. I love my 10’s!
@avidwaterfowler7522Ай бұрын
I’m a 10ga guy myself. I’ve got 2 golds, bps, sxs, and a H&R 10ga Turkey.
@stevebarnes2973Ай бұрын
Just did my oversized bolt release on my Browning Silver using your video. Turned out perfect. Thanks for the video, excellent job.
@avidwaterfowler7522Ай бұрын
@@stevebarnes2973 that’s awesome. It’s a worth while upgrade!
@jonathanmelanson3257Ай бұрын
Those patterns are terrible my 20ga will beat that with a patternmaster classic long range out to 40yrds
@jonathanmelanson3257Ай бұрын
With Rio 1oz #2
@avidwaterfowler7522Ай бұрын
@@jonathanmelanson3257 these are bigger pellets. No, they aren’t perfect, but that’s pretty darn good considering the pellet count. Btw, congratulations on being sold on the biggest gimmick of a choke tube in history. Literally the biggest gimmick in our lifetime. Go look at the channel surviving duck season where he shoots different chokes against a high speed camera. The pattern masters does the complete opposite of the Marketing on the package.
@jonathanmelanson3257Ай бұрын
@@avidwaterfowler7522 im useing Rio # 1of 3inch
@gmillz27Ай бұрын
😂😂 😂you actually answered all the questions in the video if people were listening 👂 But anyway thanks for the info and I was considering buying this off the PSA site for $199. It would be my first shotgun and 2nd or 3rd gun I own depending if I go AR next not sure yet 🤔
@avidwaterfowler7522Ай бұрын
Everyone needs at least 1 AR, so I’d get that one first. Go on PSA and check the daily deals for a low priced option. I can’t speak for all of the owners of this shotgun, but this one had a couple hiccups the first couple rounds and has run like a top since. That’s including light 1oz loads. It’s a fun gun for sure. Make sure to take it apart and clean it thoroughly from new. They use all kinds of packing lube that’s to thick IMO. I cleaned, lightweight oil, and thin grease in wear areas.
@gmillz27Ай бұрын
Thank you for your help Bro🫡 Yeah the PSA’s site has too many sales lol. I’m like I want this and that but I knowhave to work with what I have first. I’m hooked already 🤦♂️ What you said makes total sense so I’ll go with the AR build next. I was thinking about a 10.5 inch ARP from PSA.🫡
@allenmouldey7784Ай бұрын
Again great information Thanks again.
@general-Lee-7002 ай бұрын
I think I have a theory the reason why the 10 gauges being discontinued because most people think of 10 gauge is overkill for hunting and house protection Joe Biden himself say you're better off using a double barrel for home protection and stuff like that yeah well 10 gauge in a single shot will handle almost anything but it's okay because I've heard rumors going around the internet about a group of guys that calling himself the boomstick boyz I heard they are creating something otherworldly that can rival the punt gun but a modern day technology that can be fired from the shoulder and hold a bigger slug than a punt gun i seen the shell on what they are making and i can say its monstrous 5 inch long from the rim up to the opening of the all brass shell and that shell is 2 inches wide they said its going to make History in shear recoil and sheer size and the Big ass pattern that it looks like it will throw out there I can only imagine what them boys are going to make and then when they say it's going to be free-handed and fired from the shoulder I guarantee you that gun is going to be ridiculously large enough to rival the punt gun
@avidwaterfowler752223 күн бұрын
Man, you could be right. I actually made a video a couple years ago saying the 10 is not the way it’s portrayed. It’s a long video, but possibly worth a listen. It’s comparing the 10ga to a punt gun, which it’s not.
@jamesking42252 ай бұрын
That vice grip tap is about as bogueloosa Alabama as you can get 🤣
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
That’s what happens when you loan tools out…. I am in PA, so a little bit of redneck is in my genes…
@allenmouldey77842 ай бұрын
A great video thank you for the info.
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@tripplebeards34272 ай бұрын
The trigger group i will say a friendly tip is the the front pin is splined. Make sure to drive it out the correct way. I luckily didn’t hurt anything. The old trigger group trigger guard housing was broken to begin with so it now has spline indentations in both holes. No big deal because it was broke and getting replaced with a new housing, I repaired it and saved it for an emergency back up if I ever need it.
@tripplebeards34272 ай бұрын
Federal had changed to a roll crimp instead of a fold crimp. The oval all length of the cases are long roll crimped and won’t feed or cycle in my gold. Federal is aware of the issue and doesn’t plan on changing it. Weird since Browning is/was the ONLY production gun to run 10 gauge. I don’t buy 10 gauge federal ammo any more needless to say.
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
Yeah I did a complete disassemble it and noticed that. Good call.
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
I only load my own anymore, but federal hulls suck in 10ga period. I don’t have issues cycling, they simply fail on me unless they’re in a pump or break action.
@edwardkin722 ай бұрын
I do the exact same thing, if I got to hunt then, I wait until the second week here in WV
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
At some point I won’t be hunting deer with a gun. I’m an archery only guy at this point.
@stevehudson74682 ай бұрын
do you not use a mylar wrap , i have been and its a pain . i would rather not if i dont have to . any advice ? cheers steve
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
I do not use a Mylar wrap with this load and there is no reason to. Mylar wraps are WWWAAAYYY over used. There is a larger channel on YT (that I won’t mention) that way over uses Mylar wraps. With smaller shot and a multimetal wad like I use in this load, you absolutely do not need a Mylar wrap. It’s a waste of money and time. I use a Mylar wrap in two loads at the moment and both are bismuth 10ga and 12ga because I’m using short wads that only have about 50% of the shot protected. I have seen only minor increases regarding pattern improvement when adding a Mylar wrap with buffer, but any improvement I can get is worth it regarding bismuth waterfowl loads.
@danmarzano41802 ай бұрын
Overshot card would increase pressure, I assume this does not? Once fired the base of the wad should seal against the hull anyway correct?
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
I don’t think an OSC wad affect pressure if any at all. However, I’ve never tested it. This does not affect pressure, you are following the recipe whether it’s your load or not. You’d be using the same powder and wad it calls for regardless. The gas seal gets flared out naturally upon firing.
@joelapello35462 ай бұрын
can you reload these with Hornady FTX ( flex-tips ) 200 grain bullets , .358 diameter
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
Absolutely. In fact, you’ll probably get more accuracy like I did. Get them going 2300-2350 and you’re golden!
@harleyironhead70902 ай бұрын
awesome data, great information
@avidwaterfowler75222 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful. I’ve got 100 loaded up for this season!