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@neilmurphy4301 2 сағат бұрын
Why does that middle one look like the lead is way off center? Is that just the camera or was the core shifted that much??
@cameronhittinger8444 Күн бұрын
Thats super slow and they are meant to hit hide and rib cage, not soft gel
@simplemindedfella Күн бұрын
You have to move them slow when trying to find the minimum velocity they will still perform at. As far as for gelatin there has been lots of studies done to create testing mediums and the industry has settled on 10% gelatin when testing for hunting purposes and that does take into consideration bone and hide. Live/green bone and hide have minimal effect on a bullet. I have confirmed that with my own testing.
@Joe-lk6oc 2 күн бұрын
Fantastic performance! The Speer 140 Gold Dot should be devastating on deer out of a 6.5 Creedmoor, 260 Rem, 6.5x55! Your videos are excellent!!!
@simplemindedfella 2 күн бұрын
@Joe-lk6oc thanks. Glad you enjoy them.
@StumpkillerCP 2 күн бұрын
I'm a big "no" for a non-expanding bullet. I have a load for a 156 gr Norma Oryx from my .260 REM that, if I ever find a moose, will be my choice. Of course, they disconinued the design. :-(
@danconley6463 3 күн бұрын
ELDX not menrtioned in this vid. Interesting... Mulling over ELDX vs. ABLR at 6.5 cm, 308 win, 300PRC @ distance (sub 2850fps velocities). Have full confidence in TBT as they shot well in 308 but trying to dumb it down for good performance on deer deer AND heavier elk..
@simplemindedfella 3 күн бұрын
I only use the ELD-X in rifles that I have set up with muzzle velocities at or under 2700 fps because of how bad they come apart. ABLR's are what I currently use the most and absolutely love them.
@nathanhatcher7096 9 күн бұрын
Great infor! Sadly i have been reloading since the 80's and alway firm believer in cup and core bullets, one i favor was 170gr round nose soft point out of 308 and 06 running around 2700fps max did beautiful on deer and elk out to 400 yards. Though now days bonded and all copper bullets are starting to take the show!
@simplemindedfella 9 күн бұрын
@nathanhatcher7096 with increased velocity, a bullet with more integrity is necessary. I have a few rifles that I mostly have used for doe management but have also harvested bucks and elk with that I use cup core bullets in. They all have muzzle velocities between 2500-2700 fps. I have a 6.5 Creedmoor that I have shooting the 140gr ELD-M's at 2600 fps. That's my go to doe management gun. I have dropped everyone I have shot with that gun to just over 600 yards. Cup and core and be extremely effective and not destroy meat if ones muzzle velocities are not too high.
@3006USMC 13 күн бұрын
Excellent video.
@Yelladog78 24 күн бұрын
Funny that Hornady takes credit for discovering the tips melting/deforming, a Nosler rep told me about that issue in the late 1990's.
@Yelladog78 24 күн бұрын
Good practical information
@BudgeG80 25 күн бұрын
Just bought 3 factory loaded boxes of these by Swift Ammunition Co. can’t wait to try them so I’m glad to see you video using the bullet. I’d like to eventually load some of these myself.. Glad I could find you videos on them! What powder and brass did you use for your test loads?
@Devon_Rea 29 күн бұрын
I have a question. Can a gun smith shorten my long range hells canyon max long range? I am wanting to get a suppressor but its already 26 inches and afraid that its going to Be way too long to hunt with walking through the trees. Be like 32-34 in barrel. Wanting to cut it down to like 22 inches. Thanks.
@simplemindedfella 29 күн бұрын
@@Devon_Rea yes. It would work the same as my rifle.
@Devon_Rea 29 күн бұрын
@@simplemindedfella just wasn’t sure because it is fluted. Wasn’t sure if they would be able to do it.
@simplemindedfella 29 күн бұрын
@Devon_Rea some gunsmiths may be reluctant because of the fluting. It won't hurt anything. Esthetics, maybe, but that's it.
@Gettysburg2013 Ай бұрын
This is a great video, thank you for making/sharing!
@simplemindedfella Ай бұрын
@@Gettysburg2013 your welcome.
@kimpedersen8851 Ай бұрын
What is the closest you have shot animals with it? How does it do with close bone shots?
@simplemindedfella Ай бұрын
30ish yards on a whitetail doe. I like them on smaller and medium sized game with muzzle velocities around 2700 fps and have harvested whitetails from 30-600 yards with them.
@BobbyOneil-w7e Ай бұрын
Glad to hear that i just sighted my ott 6 with it
@johnrussell2003 Ай бұрын
Late to the vid, but you should try the Accubond LR. It is designed to open up at lower velocities at long range. But then, it might not do so well at higher velocities. I'll keep looking for a vid on these.
@simplemindedfella Ай бұрын
@johnrussell2003 I haven't tested the ABLR in 0.284, but I have in 0.308 and 0.264, and they are one of the better all-around bullets.
@KevinBrown-r7d Ай бұрын
Don't hunt any big game with these. Probably illegal and definitely unethical.
@cbuck5165 Ай бұрын
Have you considered doing any gel testing of the Apex Outdoors mono bullets? I think your approach to this testing is far more valuable and realistic than most of the impact testing I have seen. Keep up the good work! :)
@mishkaulitkin9476 2 ай бұрын
Great show! Well presented and prepared!
@hondoh5720 2 ай бұрын
Most comments here are 4 yr ago. Picked a used one up at a value price. Tritium dead (5yr) guarantee. Replenish requires exchange/purchase new slide. Fiberoptics good daytime. Added used std 365 three-tritium upper. All good, 2 options. Nice pistol.
@wesgarrett42 2 ай бұрын
Maximus not MTH for hunting
@awsomedude12345678 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you wholeheartedly Except for the thought about the bergers Can they kill? Yes But high bc cup and core bullets can have extraordinary failure Some will even push upder the hide and ride along only to be found randomly under the hide completely without evidence of how they got there
@JD.307 2 ай бұрын
Why run the Hornadys 200 fps slower than the ABLR? 🤔
@tomswulf_lv6217 2 ай бұрын
Ther are 2 tipes of fox munition 1 for fox and birds, and 2 for big geim that expands sory for bad english.
@JasonTrudel-s4s 2 ай бұрын
So I have been trying to convert 300wsm to 6.8 but it’s not working am I missing something
@simplemindedfella 2 ай бұрын
you have to bump the shoulder back a few ten-thousands back past standard length in order to get them to chamber for the first fringing (fire forming). Other than a shoulder crushing occasionally moving that much brass, as long as I bump the shoulder back far enough I haven't had any issues with using 270 and 300 WSM brass for my 6.8 western.
@a.joegevara3519 2 ай бұрын
Awesome, I found it on sale and bought 10 boxes of 308!
@llkj7944 3 ай бұрын
Any opinions if these Gold dots is what Federal is loading in their Fusion line of ammo? Recovered bullets look almost identical!
@MTMILITIAMAN7.62 3 ай бұрын
So 600 to 800 yards, depending on muzzle velocity being, say 2550 to 2750 fps? For perspective, a .357 Magnum will do between 1400 and 1500 fps from a 158 gr in a 6+ inch revolver. So .357 Magnum energy from an expanding bullet at 600+ yards? Not bad! And you can get Hornady Black with the 168 gr Amax for $1.60-ish a pop, which also isn't bad for match .308 Win, these days. I am in the process of putting an 18 inch Proof and a Dead Air Sandman on a DMR themed AR-10, and I gotta say, this bullet is checking a lot of boxes for a do-all load in this rifle.
@davecollins6113 3 ай бұрын
Using Partitions for the last 44 yrs, haven't had a reason to change, I never fear a hard quartering shot, a hoop shot or a frontal shot when needed, sometimes that's all you get at a moose or elk, I hunted BC and AB , I didn't know what I'd see for sure, for many years, could have up to all 4 different tags, WT, MD, elk and moose, partitions got it done. Meat loss was something I was willing to sacrifice at times, most of the time, didn't have to.
@Tony_Seed 3 ай бұрын
I’ve seen nothing in the internet but videos of these bullets failing in game on hunts and like this But on the videos cutting edge posts their all work miraculously
@Gimpinator23 3 ай бұрын
I really wanted my rifle to like the terminal ascent’s. First two shots at 100 yards went through the same hole. 3rd shot was 1.5 inches off. Then I got a 5.5 inch group at 300. Berger 168gr hybrid hunter’s got a 1/2” group at 100 and under an inch at 300, though I realize that was likely a bit of a fluke. Still impressive. Thoroughly impressed with the accuracy of the bergers so I at least have my fallback round if I can’t find a good bonded bullet that my rifle shoots well. Appreciate the content!
@Manbunmen65 Ай бұрын
My 6.5 PRC loves the terminal ascent. Recently shot out the back of truck on paper at 425 yards to see what a 200 yard zero would be in drop. Only 9 inches and the group was 2.5. They are coming out of the 24 inch barrel between 3150-3180 fps
@Thawhitestguyeva 3 ай бұрын
Your shooting 6.5 creedmoor at 20 feet? No shit it went through the blocks
@skidmark7845 3 ай бұрын
3:04 play back @ .25 the speed
@dougkahler7152 3 ай бұрын
Not a very good test when you haven’t got any all copper bullets shush as the Barnes TTSX that happens to be probably the best overall hunting bullet ever designed!
@BernardBouchard-qq9kq 3 ай бұрын
After watching m60 tracer you see the drop and energy loss at 500m. It's dramatic.
@jamesmooney5348 3 ай бұрын
Hammer Bullets would like your style of testing. I bet if you had time to do testing, they'd may work with you But who knows..... thay have quite a team already Great video
@simplemindedfella 3 ай бұрын
I have tested a few Hammer bullets and love their performance. Hammer is a great company. I live 20 minutes from their shop.
@jamesmooney5348 3 ай бұрын
@@simplemindedfella Oh! Wow! Cool! They just came out with a tipped absolute hammer in 6.5. That should be a real good!
@jamesmooney5348 3 ай бұрын
Very much agree with what you're saying. I like how the 208 ELDM run in the 308 as well. Not so fast, but it keeps its speed and does a great job. Rogee Hunting out of New Zealand runs the 208 ELDM in a Tikka 300 wsm with fantastic success on even smaller game at distance.
@jamesmooney5348 3 ай бұрын
Great video!
@tonymills7883 3 ай бұрын
Only a dumbass shoots at a animal at 700yds
@ShastaBean 3 ай бұрын
Those velocities are wild...with how different the two Barnes are! I don't load 6.5 but ~300 fps less velocity...? wow! May I ask you what powder it was and charge?
@michaelpeters6659 4 ай бұрын
you sir are doing the lords work!
@chuckfinley3152 4 ай бұрын
I saw online some hunters in New Zealand wee annealing the tips of match bullets to get better fragmentation at distance
@christobessinger105 4 ай бұрын
Die goed skiet kak, hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie
@wes326 4 ай бұрын
All of them do well at ethical hunting distances. 6.5 is best for long-range target shooting. Thanks for sharing.
@RoswellNative 4 ай бұрын
plywood plugs
@johngunn4573 4 ай бұрын
You mind sharing your load data for this bullet in .308? Thx
@stephensheets1841 4 ай бұрын
Very encouraging to hear. Was interested in something like this for my son and was concerned the short barrel would be crazy loud. If that's all the velocity you've lost though I'm assuming that at ~20 inches there's no perceivable difference than a long barrel? Plenty of compact 243 youth guns out there but after being next to them at the range, no thank you. Very excited to get a 6.8 going and working up some mild loads for him :)
@TheYamaha37 4 ай бұрын
Bub the first bullet camw out the top and bounced right back at you. It traveled bput 2 or 3 yards an flopped on the ground. Can't see how you missed it
@scottscheuerman8714 5 ай бұрын
I bought some of these in 284 diameter for the 280 ai I have built I shot it the other day with hornady sst 154 and it was already starting to group the weight of accubond LR was 150 grain and I was getting velocities of around 2932 fps with the 154 sst
@RavenSec-w8t 5 ай бұрын
I picked up the trim die you recommended. Thank you! Lapua is now making 300 WSM brass so I plan to re-work some down. ADG will be releasing 6.8 Western brass too
@guymcree3014 5 ай бұрын
great video. Which would you recommend on black bear within 120 yds?
@simplemindedfella 5 ай бұрын
ABLR is my go-to in the Creedmoor