Thanks man, Im sure you are faster than you think....

To be fair you are an excellent comedy sidekick...

@@alexbiketester you only wanted me for my Amflow! 😂

@@MBRmagazine you are the one talking about it in the whole video.... i only swear about it.... ahhahaha I actually wanted to borrow the powermore extender and try bodge it with tape on to the focus because I forgot to charge it...

I used you as a trail guide...

I had a good look over it and paid attention to small details, like the speed sensor, which doesn't seem magnetic "thus maybe susceptible to mud?)" and other fine details. The stem is definitely wobbly and for me an issue. The display is clear and intelligent and the remotes on the bar i find a bit big. Riding for me was a priority on the Focus, as I have to send it back soon so I had no time or energy to ride it. Plus my riding skills are on a low level at moment to discover what it can do I would not be able to say much. Muldoon is also testing the Amflow in depth and to be honest he will give an excellent and better insight than me currently to the bike when the review is out On MBR. As in my opinion he is the top bike tester in the world in the media. His review is the only one that counts honestly. And im not kissing his arse, I quite willingly tell him to F off if he deserves it. Regarding the Amflow I also know that MBR are not being paid for the review in anyway. They are not hiding their affiliation to DJI as they have none. Unlike all the other youtubers who have had it and hide their Bias or we have no clear idea to what they are doing, they just hype it. I did notice the motor on the Amflow has more internal resistance than the Bosch, when rolled backwards the consequences of that im not clear at the moment. I witnessed the uphill Boost mode, which was impressive, but I have seen other high torque motors do the same, so im not on that hype train. My main feeling about the bike is that it is good, but its been launched in a small window and it stands out currently. That will change very soon, there are other bikes coming with other motors that will compete with this and have a consumer history making them more appealing to the consumer. Price wise though this is a hard bike to beat currently. The overall look of the bike (frame styling) I also am not a fan of. Yes its slim, but Canyon, Specialized and Trek make better looking bikes. It almost feels like a knock off when you look at the design. Yes this is aesthetics and my opinion only. The stem though does need to be chucked as soon as you open the box...

@@alexbiketester cool thanks for the feedback, I impressed with the DJI Avinox or the little I’ve seen about it online but there is so much hype from testers who seem to be making one long Ad for the product. Then there’s the Amflow bike, there is something missing it doesn’t have the sex, that desirability other brands have and if it wasn’t for the DJI motor it would be dead in the water. It’s just a platform to get the system out in the wild so the big boys can see the hype and look to design and spec there EMTB around. I may be talking crap but come euro bike 26 think they’ll be a wash of DJI Avinox bikes. A lot seem to be forgetting the ZF motor too, which shouldn’t be discounted.

yes exactly, the bike without the motor.... no. Its a first bike, those who buy it are not making a mistake but they are rushing... knowing what I know about the market.

Alex, I think you are forgetting two key points. The first one is that you can’t have an e-bike without a motor. The second one, and this is a big one, is that you haven’t ridden the bike, so you don’t know if it’s hyped or not. Haha

@@MBRmagazine I could see the red mist in your eyes every-time you touched the DJI screen.... it must have been transferring something to you by touch...

21 psi front and 23 rear im 87 kg

@@alexbiketesterhaha! That’s what I was running! I put 24/26psi in your tyres Alex!

@@MBRmagazine ok you changed the setting...

It was a great day, thanks to Alan for the encouragement! Thanks for watching!

@@alexbiketester 👊👊

@@alexbiketester was good you see you back on the bike.

I was very impressed, really smooth high quality alu frame finish, (apart from the remote cable), smooth silent powerful motor. Swappable batteries in same frame 600 or 800. Good wheel set, geo is good for the average rider and the travel on the first part of the suspension is easy to activate and smooth. Price as well is really very good!

thanks man, great to be riding with Alan from MBR, go check out his unboxing of the Amflow.... the bike he was riding that day....

@alexbiketester yes watched that post was interesting to see the flex in the stem, lots of people complaining about problems with water ingress in the display and software updates messing the bike up.

I wobbled the actual stem of the bike from that video... it really does flex an absurd amount.... i have never seen something wobble like that.

Yeah, a slow start, more for the head, Alan pushed the bike on the second trail as we took time to shoot. Need to do some yoga stuff as well, going to program some stuff this week to get back.

183cm

@@cookiecanfly_ i tried the large as well. Great bike

@ awesome, did you prefer it - going to test a l and XL Monday

normally coils static

yes physics cant be beaten....

Well done, you have expressed a serious concern that I have been saying for a long time. NM is ok, but peak power of 1000w will get the sector in trouble! This has also been told to me by the chief engineer of a very major bike company.

@@alexbiketesteragree with both your comments DJI power is ridiculous and what has already been stated will get these bikes banned from bridleways and any sort of XC riding and will only be allowed in bike parks I think the current batch off motors around the 85 NM is more than enough for any rider, I have a Trek fuel EXe with the TW motor I find that has ample for me at the moment and I can normally keep up with my full fat mates when stamping the pedals I also have more control in technical climbs as it rarely spins out 🤷‍♂️

yes!

in my experience not really that loud just the mic is pointing at the motor.

Thanks! 👍

@@andreacagnoli3375 I will tell you....

@@trailpimp6369 thanks man ... I'm with Muldoon

@ oh cool man I love Al such a legend🤘🤘

@@jesperkristensen1912 i have it right now.... Going to ride it these next days....

@ look forward to hear what you think about it🤔 I am looking on the focus jam 2 6.0 but can’t decide🙈

i will give you info as soon as possible in the next video.

@@mha1978dent I would say yes..... Especially if the

@@alexbiketester I suppose all it would need would be a battery in the shimano form factor that’s compatible. Suspect this battery would be very different to the old shimano models.

@@alexbiketester I broke my Fulgar mula and went out on the old bike (e-sommet) yesterday and it’s very different and really good, light too. So an oli or one of these would be rather good. Suspect it’s a bit more difficult than that though…

Probably not. It will stay 12 speed

@@alexbiketester What bike would you purchase now ? enduro Ebike ? How you mending ?

I'll check it out!

ive not been whipped recently...

good question! dont know

@ it would be great if it did

thank you

not tried it.

similar to a performance CX gen 4

Yes in fact on this short ride I didnt need the max turbo mode particularly I used it because it was there.

There is a lot of people missing the point, its about the over the top marketing. No one tired it, all the reviews are paid for and there is a group that will not hear anything said about it with out defending it. Ive been in the industry for 15 years, so when I call out a very clear more marketing than substance everyone thinks i'm a hater. Read through the comments I am clearly not. The same thing happened with numerous other products the MGU is another one, no one has ridden it but everyone defends it with out any real longterm tests. If you ride the motor in the video a {competitor}, you understand clearly what the reality is of having a high torque powerful motor. Mostly that its unnecessary, as Ive mentioned. What I do that others don\t is I am willing to actually say what is happening. Amflow DJI are excellent at marketing, Cultural/nationality back ground is not even an issue and of course would never be from my perspective. There is a product element to why no bike brand bought it originally/ They had to make their own bike to get it known. Possibly warranty and support network, possibly ownership, possible timing as the market was saturated and there was no capital to build another product line from scratch, this I cant confirm, I suspect established global warranty support is the biggest point currently. There are already competitors in the pipeline or have motors produced that will bring prospective to this product and the verve that everyone is responding to it with. its all marketing....Its good we can debate all these things. Everyone is being respectful which is great to see.

@alexbiketester so when are you going to ride the Amflow PL pro and put it through its paces? I have owned one since 4th November and after owning Comp carbon Levo SL,trek rail exe, Giant reign eo+ I have to say that paid reviews or not this bike lives up to the hope it's very very good ( and I am not paid by anyone).

@@dallasdrew2390 Good question, first I have to get my health back. Then we will see, I have another bike with the same motor stats at the moment but I cant ride it properly. Also a few other brands are coming out with motor upgrades to their systems soon with the same stats. My point of most of these videos is to warn people that they are subject to marketing runs on them. If you have the bike and are happy with it great. As an early adopter you will be able to sift the details and tell people about reliability etc. The bike is a well priced bike, with good stats, but its not worthy of all the hype that makes it sound like its ten steps ahead of every other bike, thats not true. I know the youtube community I know who is paid and not paid, at some point someone has to call out the excessive noise they make. Checks and balances, important. My balances are based on experience, not hate or anger...

@@robhaskins3068 focus bikes already used the ² marketing. :-) DJI are very good at marketing..... That's the point. Marcus Brownlee did 98 mph in a 35 "testing" the last camera.... Wonder what feedback they gave him about that blunder.... The bike industry social media media needs a shake up and needs to start acting more responsibly as from where I'm sitting the public found out, stopped buying bikes and now wants a bit more realistic and honest media. DJI had to make their own bike to sell the motor. They also started a media blitz to make sure that any stories about government ownership of the company were "explained".... There is a very multilayer business plan taking place. However they won't be alone for long and the competition will reappear and the market will all be exactly the same stat wise for all the systems. Meaning there will be no difference to today.... Except on climbing trails there will be more wheel slip, as everyone is convinced they need to use max torque/power to get up the hill.... To be fair the DJI has an excellent power prediction for the gear regulation going on, it knows which gear you are in... :-)

@alexbiketester What's wrong with the Chinese government owning the business. The US are legislating to ban Dji from drone sales for fear of spying. As if Google is not analysing what you and I say and write. The Americans are trying to order Amflow bikes from Australian dealers. The US has got what they vote for and the majority still deny Emtbs. The magic of Emtbs is that they turn us into gleeful kids again and multiply the joy of one of mans greatest gravity cheating inventions the bicycle. They are a Time Machine. "Downhill both ways" E=mtb². Proper tough guys and purist run the trails barefoot. Amflow features I like. USB port for charging devices. 12Amp fast charger. (4amp for others) Automatic battery management discharge system if you leave it fully charged for a long period, Bluetooth L and R controllers and you can even control your Dji Osmo action camera from the bars.Touch phone quality and features display 👌. You can even add extra pages to the screen. Many adjustments for each power setting including motor overrun. 42 hole wheel speed sensor. (🤫 for off road only) 21 and it becomes a 2 x rocketship with ½ speed and dist recording ⚡️⚡️👍 E= mtb³. Above All I only buy quiet bikes and it will be interesting if it is as perfect as my highly modified and upgraded super silent 2018 brose 1.3 Levo. Fox 38's 170mm ,9piont8 steering head slacker kit ,fox Dpx2 shock. Manual change Rohloff manual with foward mounted tensioner and Anti Flickerty Sticks protection guard. It's Goodbye derailleur for me. Cheers.

There is no doubt for the price the product is good value. As I've said I'm not against the product. Those who have had it on "test" are paid for, they are not journalists... They were paid to tell you it's good, that's the point. They received large amounts of money to make videos on KZbin saying it's good. Check out the Louis Rossman video from 2:50. I pinned it to the top.... :-)

@@alexbiketester so as you say these reviewers of the Amflow bikes are mostly all paid to say good things about the bike then most of the other brands are all doing the same thing so basically we as viewers should stop wasting our time watching these reviews.

@@dallasdrew2390 Basically yes, the reviewers dont declare clearly in the videos who is sponsoring the video and how. If you look at Linus tech tips they have a gold standard to how to place and discuss product. Look at Colin and Samir last interview with him from minute 60 onwards. The only two/three channels apart from myself (I always mention if the video is supported with my words in the video) who are straight up is MBR, who make it clear now if there is a product video or a review, they genuinely are clear. Also ironically EMBN, who don't review bikes and mark their content when it has a product placement or AD with the word AD on the thumbnail. They could go as far as MBR , but they are more of an entertainment channel. Rob rides does ad reads in his podcasts which is clear and good! He is also straight up about peaty supporting the channel. It would be good if this was carried into the bike reviews the same level of spoken clarity. The bike media since magazines died has been playing an uncomfortable game and is scared to actually say who is paying for what.... I could list all the others who are not following a transparent practice. At the end its not a difficult thing to do and it would make the consumer much happier to know what they are watching. Out of interest the jurisdiction where I am obliges us to say, if not its illegal. This is true of most reviews especially the big channels. There is no industry best practice and its time it changed.... Me moaning about it though is probably not going to do much... LOL However when you read in the comments sections now people have got wind of it and can tell now whats going on. Its time to make the change into a best practice so people know whats going on. It makes even us uncomfortable. I ask sam;s bikes for example if he received any money from DJI in the last 6 months, I wrote it in a comment, I have heard no response so far.... Im not the police, but I dont want people to be confused between a real review and something which has had money given to them, so they are going to say whatever to make the brand happy, but call it a review. If you present a product and clear state "BRAND A wanted us to show you and tell you about this bike... Or Our ride over the alps was supported by "BRAND B" and we are riding their bikes.... Its not a hard thing to do and it will make it better for everyone especially the brands. Also lets not mention the number inflation going on with subscriber counts and in parallel very small numbers of views. (which to be fair seem to be occuring as a disconnect between YOutube at the moment) my question is how many videos have had their view counts boosted or bought? It is an option in the back end of youtube. Anyway the tech vertical of youtube has a much better way of functioning going on now.... time to do it in BIKE world. If you cant clearly look at a video and know who is the sponsor and how then the video is an ad.

Unfortunately they were cut off me... so I used what I had.

Im calling out all the people who are banging on about it not the motor. Ive made no comment on the motor.... The only thing I have mentioned is that there are other motors with the same stats. Thats it. Maybe soon I start reviewing the reviewers of the products.... LOL Watch the youtube video I have Pinned.....

@ granted you have to be very careful on you tubers opinions here, made me laugh when a new drone is launched every “reviewer” recommended the fly more package to get you to spend more 😂

I love innovative products, I absolutely expect the DJI to work, to what extent remains to be seen. But I have a problem with how those who talk about it and push it haven't tried anything similar or are simply doing stuff with it that's not representative or real to the end user. Louis Rossman has been saying this about apple for years in the computer world. For me the KZbin hustlers have gone too far.... Granted DJI have a very clever and good marketing machine. Which there is nothing wrong with having. But when content is labelled as advertorial it needs to be clearly done. MBR recently did a video on weighing SL bikes. For me that is the best video with branding that has been put out in recent times by cycling media which balances the need for advertising and appropriate mentioning of the product. Where I'm based, a famous KZbinr influenza call Chiara Ferragni got into trouble for false claims of donations for cake profits to a childrens hospital. The out cone was that now that there are now laws passed that brings us into line with normal media.

needs to be recorded with same equipment as me

yes they are in uk. I will have a detailed test up about this bike soon.

@@emapeddie Thank you for writing your experience! Thank you for following the channel! I do my best to keep everything real.... including the slow comeback...

Its not a chip about dji its about all the bs marketing about it which as ive said is simply not true.

​@alexbiketester where is the bs marketing? They only produced stats about their bike and let it sell itself. Show me the bs marketing. I bet you can't show my any examples.

The quote for peak power is illegal firstly. Maximum allowed peak power is 500 w according to the EN standard for EU. Stay on nominal power or they ruin it for everyone. That is a quote from a chief engineer from another motor brand.

@alexbiketester so try answering my question...where is the bs marketing? Are you saying they lied about their peak power?

@@alexbiketester this is the main concern for me , E trail bikes will be banned from footpaths and bridleways and they will include emtb

The Amflow has light weight tyres and a less than ideal shock tune out of the box. The wheels are also light weight Carbon and not really up to the performance you would require pushing it around. The tyres as always are half the con trick with any lightweight Ebike apart from the Slash+ which is a real light weight actual Enduro RIG. The thing is that everyone is having the wool pulled over their eyes and is drink up the marketing like its science. The bike is good value but the noise about it is paid for.

@@alexbiketester according to their website they spec: Front: Maxxis Assegai MaxxTerra 29×2.5" WT 3C EXO E-25 TLR Rear: Maxxis Dissector MaxxTerra 29×2.4" WT 3C EXO+ E-25 TLR which arent really the lightest tyres out there and will definetly not save you 3kg. I do agree that the bike is not an absolute revolution but it has a good motor, low weight and a good design for a relatively low price. Shock you can always replace, its the frame and motor that rly counts and those are great according to all ive heard.

@davinci69 the stock shock tune is apparently not good and DJI need to work on it. From the feedback I've heard, yes value performance is good. But at the end it's a bike like many bikes. To ride better it needs better tyres apparently.. but that then that tips it over the low weight moniker....

​@alexbiketester a shock tune is barely a criticism since that is a personal choice. The shock is solid. Mess with it as you want. Criticizing it for tires odd. Put others on then everyone does. Also the OEM tires are not light tires. Not double down casing, but heavy.

@ fr i feel like hes just hating for no reason. Like yes it isnt the perfect bike but it is really good.