Just had this problem with my 2023 whyte… I knew it had to be the battery as I have 2 of them … just 1 kept cutting out, luckily had spare clip, switched over and all sorted, thanks for the vid buddy, would never of found it ..!
@alexbiketester10 сағат бұрын
Glad it helped.
@jugibur2117Күн бұрын
Great video, I too agree with your comment about the new competitors. The reliability of the Bosch is legendary, and the service is also available nearly everywhere. I can't wait to see what the fifth generation will be like.
@getlostrobyn5498Күн бұрын
What would be more important than speed to me would be the amount of effort required to climb a given slope. How much assistance is provided at lower to mid cadences. This reflects the real world, when your shagged out at the end of a long ride but you have to crack on to get home.
@roscoechangleen3672Күн бұрын
Tbis is 95% irrelevant to the real world.
@alexbiketesterКүн бұрын
Maybe, the top performance fo the motors is important to some and those who race. 'it also gives an idea of their maximum potential.
@crazybaker12 күн бұрын
It is interesting to see how much battery was used in the modes 😊
@alexbiketester2 күн бұрын
Only the Askoll lets you do this easily. The BOsch needs the app. but it doesn't seem to respond the same. I can look at this again...
@HappyJack2792 күн бұрын
I’d like to see a test of low and mid power modes also. Where many cyclists spend most of their time.
@alexbiketester2 күн бұрын
Yes, but not so easy as mid modes tend to be detuned and you gave to modify in app... So it's theoretically possible to make them all the same...
@Codeset082 күн бұрын
Have you tried any bikes with the yamaha pwx3?
@alexbiketester2 күн бұрын
Yes. But I don't have it with me at moment. I have a pwx2.
2 күн бұрын
new Bosch 100NM?
@alexbiketester2 күн бұрын
Possibly. I have had no official word yet, so I'm assuming 90+ I know they have bigger battery's....
2 күн бұрын
@@alexbiketester That would be awesome! Can't wait for the new bikes coming out with that motor and battery 👍
@gilbenita72402 күн бұрын
@@alexbiketester 85NM 600W PEAK
@maclighter3 күн бұрын
I was wondering after you’re 3 bike comparisons whether I should have gone for the Spectral:ON. Thanks for this video, you’ve put my mind at rest. It arrives tomorrow!
@alexbiketester3 күн бұрын
its a great bike!
@tiffanyannlazzarotto31815 күн бұрын
Everywhere you looked another epic view and the trails look sick!! Love it!
@alexbiketester5 күн бұрын
It was!
@Mark-oc4un6 күн бұрын
What’s the price difference ?
@alexbiketester6 күн бұрын
Ohlins is $150 to $200 more depending where you buy.
@Codeset086 күн бұрын
Started watching this on the phone and the views looked so good I decided to watch it on the big screen Alex well worth it 👌 great post, one day I hope to ride some trails abroad.
@alexbiketester6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. Lots of great views and trails to explore.
@MBRmagazine6 күн бұрын
Looks amazing! Can’t wait to ride there with you! When does the summer season end?
@alexbiketester6 күн бұрын
ride until end of september on weekends. Its also possible to pedal easily. doganaccia is open much longer.
@MBRmagazine5 күн бұрын
@@alexbiketesterpedal easy on an e-bike! Haha
@wbshoggoth68317 күн бұрын
I still don't know whether to choose Strive ON or Spectral ON. Many people recommend Strive ON, because it's better to have more than less, and the motor does the job on climbs anyway. At first glance Spectral would be more useful to me. And I'm not even afraid of EP801, but there are opinions that the motor is so low that it's easy to hit rocks with it. Is there really such a difference compared to the location of the Bosch motor on Strive?
@alexbiketester7 күн бұрын
the bb height of spectral gives a great feeling of stablity on descents. I like Enduro so I would prefer the Strive. If you like more trail type riding and long rides then the spectral is your bike.
@leavemealoam7 күн бұрын
First time watching great review it’s very hard to hear you well though!
@alexbiketester7 күн бұрын
thanks, I might not have used the wireless mic. Which bit of the video and whats your sound setup?
@leavemealoam7 күн бұрын
@@alexbiketester just on my phone bud I watched a few reviews on this bike but just struggled to hear yours compared to the others.
@alexbiketester7 күн бұрын
@@leavemealoam ok, i will check the sound. I might have forgotten
@vashon1009 күн бұрын
Something has always confused me about torque quotes. Dirt bikes (say 250cc) with 20Nm-ish compared to emtb with 85Nm ? Seems like the bikes should switch chain sizes. The "20Nm-ish" can be found from general google searches. I assume both are measured at the motor shaft, but 4 factor difference?
@alexbiketester8 күн бұрын
Measured at the shaft yes. Im saying clearly, when you sit on both motors despite similar numbers, ther eis a vastly different ride feel.
@vashon1008 күн бұрын
@@alexbiketester I understand your comments and don't question them, just a side question of dirt bike vs emtb torque.
@alexbiketester8 күн бұрын
@@vashon100 Im not an expert on dirt bike torque, but I can certainly ask someone for you!
@MarcoTani9 күн бұрын
Tinta muraria?
@jamesh.sweetheimer145810 күн бұрын
Da Van Glow skool of painting!
@davinci6910 күн бұрын
What do you think of the specialized turbo levo compared to the canyon strive on?
@alexbiketester9 күн бұрын
Difficult to answer, both are good bikes but the Strive is more "Enduro" than the specialized. Specialized is more adaptable for different riding styles. I like both but would take the strive.
@davinci699 күн бұрын
@@alexbiketester thanks for the answer, thats my conclusion by now aswell. Although im thinking about the specialized instead just because of dealer support. But im not decided really
@getlostrobyn549811 күн бұрын
Alex this is a super interesting development, imagine this motor in a Canyon Spectral On with a 900w battery. And of course, your the man that could show us what that's like 😉
@alexbiketester11 күн бұрын
hmmm, maybe i could try fitting it in there...... battery is a nit oversized...... I could ask Askoll to send me a motor and battery that would fit.... you make it sound like im the only one out there talking sense.... lol
@getlostrobyn54989 күн бұрын
You come across as a genuine guy with honest impartial content u like some of the other mtb channels that feel like they are paid to promote stuff. Big bike brands that put products out that fail and then cut their customers loose after the warranty is gone need a shake up. Askoll & possibly polini might just doo that. Having the freedom to choose how you mix & match technology eould put the power in our hands as the consumer. Keep up the good work, it must be draining having to ride all these great bikes in such amazing locations all the time.....🤣🤣🤣
@alexbiketester9 күн бұрын
Thanks for your observations. Lots of things about the bike industry to unpack in public one day to bring a better end consumer experience. Some companies do a great job. Right now my opinion is that yes there are too many KZbinrs not being straight.
@emonty6211 күн бұрын
Pinion E1.12 with no derailleur so much better then any other system on the market now.
@alexbiketester10 күн бұрын
hardly anyone has tried it, who is not paid to say its good. So we will see.
@emonty6211 күн бұрын
Pinion MGU: 5 year warranty, I'm not worried
@alexbiketester11 күн бұрын
if they last 5 years.... warranty doesn't mean actually good to use reliable in long term....
@alexbiketester11 күн бұрын
If it has a problem, then is out of warrenty bike might be a lemon hard to sell.
@martynwatson492911 күн бұрын
People demand more power, so the manufactures meet the market. The extra power chews through the battery so customers demand bigger batteries. The bigger batteries weigh so much the bikes need more power to ride well. So the manufacturer will end up making a more powerful motor, and so it goes on.
@alexbiketester11 күн бұрын
yes.... but wait.... maybe you can have light weight full power..............hahahha
@bonzobanana18 күн бұрын
I feel its getting ridiculous now calling these 250W motors that only allows for a 7A controller at 36V but I know an earlier Bosch motor had a 23A controller so with a fresh 36V battery delivering 42V that is over 900W when hill climbing. It feels to me manufacturers keep pushing the envelope of what you can call a 250W ebike almost expecting to be stopped but they never are so they keep increasing the power. It's a strange marketplace where a mid-drive ebike can deliver 900W of power yet people complain that another type of ebike with 400W output is illegal despite the same 15.5mph assistance limit. I can honestly see 1200W mid-drive ebikes being sold in a few years and still having a 250W rating label. Certification should be fair and honest which sadly EU legislation isn't. It is just a mess probably designed to give European manufacturers a commercial advantage. I think the 30 second boost mode makes sense as mid-drive motors have thermal issues and struggle to cool themselves as have to remain water proof where they are so I feel that is probably the max overheat they are allowed. It's probably wise to avoid using it for the long term reliability of the motor.
@LeftCoaster11312 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the review
@alexbiketester12 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LeftCoaster11312 күн бұрын
Im loving after market motors comon the market. They just need to accommodate with bolt pattern styles so they can work for shimano or bosch generations
@bikemad12 күн бұрын
How much does the bike weigh?
@alexbiketester12 күн бұрын
not weighed it yet... around 23
@lovelight999912 күн бұрын
Thanks for video ! Love the TQ 120 which is 15 km faster up the hill than average ones and very efficiently.
@alexbiketester12 күн бұрын
The uphill constant speed is the most noticeable advantage i have seen so far of these motors. The Askoll on that super steep grippy climb did an amazing job, a lot though depends on the bikes. ITs rare to be able to get the bikes that have these motors and compare to the bigger brands to see what the differences are. I have never complained about the main brand motors, no wI have more experience with these im trying to understand what is being measured and how to get a clearer picture.
@ceriway38012 күн бұрын
I still think most people are over bike for the tipe of riding they do..but it good to see real world ride Comparisons ,
@alexbiketester11 күн бұрын
yes over biked all teh time
@steverichardson480812 күн бұрын
we're never gonna know without third party testin on an ebike dyno
@alexbiketester12 күн бұрын
This is the thing. We need some testing on the Dyno. I don't have a dyno, so I am going based on ride feel. I assume that all motors must meet the specs they quote, but, the question is for how long? At what cadence? What is the actual constant support level? From riding so many motors I can feel that something is not the same despite the numbers being quoted by brands being compared to each other. Maybe they are using different scales? Different measurement methods? I don't know.
@NoNotAChance13 күн бұрын
Great idea if that is interchangeable with the Shimano. It's long past time a common format was set and I have never been a fan of proprietary stuff - like Apple. Controller wise, Bosch is pretty rubbish. While I am a fan of the top-tube controller I am OK with a display if it is not too big and does what is required. Remotes - nothing beats the Spesh unit on the Levo.
@Raumance14 күн бұрын
Yeah limiters are useless and unnecessary. Could live with the 32kmh US limit but the EU 25kmh is just ridicolous.
@stoneenforcer15 күн бұрын
Unlocking lets you actually spin the bottom two cogs… otherwise worthless gears.
@antonioprivitera376515 күн бұрын
Amazing, Alex!
@MrDaymien115 күн бұрын
I spotted the wranglers,nice looking high volume tire ,, Maxxis is just so hard to beat on price/ performance though, especially on Ebikes when you chew a rear tire in 200Ks. Im actually liking the assagai for a rear just because at 80% tread loss it still hooks up.
@alexbiketester15 күн бұрын
Maxxis is the reference tyre, in fact maxxis appreciate it when we try other tyres and reference them as the reference tyre. A very open mind approach. Good year have a great option now. So I'm riding them and liking them.
@MrDaymien115 күн бұрын
Alex really good shit man, diging the channel it doesn't feel like a promo. Some really good though, different ideas and great content.
@alexbiketester15 күн бұрын
Thank you. I'm staying real. If anything is brand supported I will say so, clearly and also why!
@echidna126315 күн бұрын
Yep, 32 kmph would be fine for everyone. I have Norco range 180 170 908wh fully unlocked but rarely get over 35 unless smashing downhills, and I'm not pedalling anyway.
@alexbiketester15 күн бұрын
It's a fair point
@NoNotAChance16 күн бұрын
Rode a Merida with the EP801 opened to 45kph and a 750Wh battery recently. Riding a loop I use regularly the only real benefit found was on a couple fire roads where I used to ride my analogue bike at around 35 to 38kph and could do so on the Merida, where both my Bosch bikes start tailing off around 28-30 and are not worth trying to push through the 32kph limit. The other place where I noticed a difference was on a couple trails that were relatively flat, but with rolling undulations. Was much easier to stay on the pedals through sections where peddling was required. Unfortunately the settings on thr EP801 were all over the place and far from the default settings so difficult to get a real feel - couple with the owner not having any thumb switch to change modes and just set it from the display to eMTB mode and leaves it in that or Turbo. For a while I ran one of my Bosch CX with the default firmware & 75NM and the other at 85NM. The rides were much more enjoyable with the 85NM and strangely enough, the range with the 625Wh battery was not a lot different. Peak power really doesn't mean too much to me, but that torque is where I find the most benefit.
@alexbiketester15 күн бұрын
Yes, interesting to hear your experience. the peak power numbers are marketing, im trying to go the opposite way to marketing.
@getlostrobyn549816 күн бұрын
Hi Alex, I've got a great hardtail for mooching about on plus a full suss bike on the burly end of the spectrum. What I want out of an ebike isn't a weedy lightweight. It's a super enduro that will carry me up the mountains in the Lake district which is my home. I'm going in for surgery this year so I want the ebike to do the work so I don't have to.
@alexbiketester8 күн бұрын
It will be very helpful with rehab!
@VYBEKAT16 күн бұрын
Excellent video! You conveyed so much information in 10 minutes that other channels fail to cover in much longer videos No wasted time, extraneous music, clips or tangents. Thank you
@alexbiketester16 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, I prefer not to hear my self speak too much.... LOL
@konannanok496116 күн бұрын
I really wanted to buy bike with Polini motor. Unfortunately I faced multiple problems with their approach to market. 1. You can buy only Italian brands which make bikes with this motor. 2. Above is even more frustrating when you ask for bike price. Since this is mostly in house local Italian bike manufactures they do it locally and manually (carbon frames with their own molds) which is very costly. 3. 10k euro for a Ecrown is huge, Polini motor + frame + battery + other Plini equipment costs 5k euro (Ecrown) 4. For 10k euro I can have Pinion MGU E.12 and enduro bike which is more appealing for me but I would never spend 10K euro for an E-bike ;-) 5. So instead of going after fully servicable motor (thank god Polini you are doing it!!) I was foced to buy 4k euro fully equiped Mondraker E-Bike with Shimano EP801 and 1080Wh battery with better suspension system than Ecrown. Remaining 6k euro I can spend on another bike or buy 4 more EP801 motors... 6. If only Polini starts selling their complete system to individuals I'll buy it and fit into my current E-bike once EP801 die...
@alexbiketester16 күн бұрын
Its a difficult growth path for the small brands. Polini though has dreams of bigger brands. So One day it will happen....
@mha1978dent16 күн бұрын
It’s fun letting people have a go on my Fulgar mula. Dont use it de restricted much as have a smaller battery but on full boosted and power it is hilarious
@alexbiketester16 күн бұрын
yes its a blast
@FuturePerfectContinuous16 күн бұрын
only full power!
@LaurentiusTriarius16 күн бұрын
I own a 2023 giant trance X29, a 22 Jeckyll and two aurum DH bikes (14/17) even on the steepest groomed downhill circuit a rarely hit more than 80 km/h. You feel the whole of it, on my 290+ pounds YZ325 (big block 250) 80 km/h (as it's geared top speed) doesn't feel that fast. Be careful what you wish for 😂
@MrDaymien116 күн бұрын
Polini has their finger on the pulse. I really like the idea of a fully serviceable motor . 25km limit is an unnatural and very low speed limit to have a forced limiter, it's dangerous. I too see no need for SL ebikes
@nomad-pq4yw8iy7v16 күн бұрын
I don't know tomorrows full powers are SL the line is getting a little blurry. Let hope the other manufactures realize the valve of making the parts to rebuild their motors available to customers for both them and the customer.