The Stinger is no longer offered by Kia, unfortunately.

I personally don't believe that VW will fold. It's still a profitable company, who like so many other legacy automakers is having some challenges adjusting and streamlining their operations. I've driven the ID.4 a few times and some of the most annoying parts of the ID.4 don't show up in the ID.Buzz. But certainly give it some time to see how things evolve. Perhaps one day you'll feel more comfortable looking at one. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

It's a fair question, and one that as far as I'm aware, Ford has not given any indication that they want to go there. But it's really all a matter of programming if they felt there was sufficient demand for it. The Dodge Charger Scat Pack seems to be the closest thing at the moment according to what we've seen so far. And there are obviously far more powerful EVs than the Plaid (see Rimac) but priced as a hypercar and not a daily driver.

Great points you've made here. I'm glad that you're enjoying the Lightning, and I'm sharing a link to another video of mine where I interview a business owner who uses a pair of Lightnings in a very unique way. I think you'll enjoy watching it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYS4gqKObLOthZosi=XH9tY7R-L_8IxyOL

I disagree. Random sampling often deals with smaller sample sizes to net survey results that are considered to be statistically accurate. Many online or phone polls will speak to only 1,000 respondents within a much larger sampling area and still consider the results to be statistically accurate within a small margin of error. The survey is absolutely intended to speak to those who have already made the decision. Call it an exit poll if you will. For it would be more relevant for someone who is currently driving an EV to comment on the experience than it would be for someone with an opinion on EVs but no actually ownership. It's no different than turning to a F-150 forum or a Yamaha Snowmobile club to get their take on the experience of ownership. And psychologists will tell you that when given the chance to voice an opinion, people are far, far more likely to voice complaints than compliments. So one would naturally expect there to be more criticism of the experience, especially in light of the still evolving ecosystem, and yet, that's not what appears. The 336,000 figure represents the total sum of all members in all associations under the GEVA umbrella. It does not, nor ever would be considered an indication of active involvement. To suggest this is a poor sample size using this rationale would not pass objective scrutiny, for it falls more on pre-determined bias than it does reliability. I won't go into your non-relevant other arguments, for they are rooted in political or ideological bias than any factual evidence. Your dislike of EVs is clear, but that doesn't mean the information provided is incorrect or irrelevant. It just means you don't like what it indicates. Thanks for the comment.

@@TheNovakReport Thank you for your reply. Your first paragraph is utter nonsense. Nobody takes any notice of ridiculously small sample sizes whether they think their margin of error is small or not. Neither do actuarial mathematicians. Exit polls are notoriously unreliable, even when they say they are accurate. Your second paragraph fails to address my point and it fails to support the opening statement of the video. Nobody should care what the already converted think. Non EV users need to think for themselves. If the EV doesn't fit the use profile don't buy one. Duh! Your penultimate para is yet more garbage. The numbers given are taken from government websites and maths applied. At no point did I say your information was wrong, so stop straw manning. Your conclusion that I am anti EV is flawed and unsupported. EVs are good at certain things and poor at others. They should not be forced upon the population by governments until they are fit for purpose in all respects. That is not political or ideological bias if effing common sense. PS Dont start a paragraph or even a sentence with "And". "And" is a conjunctive adverb and has no place at the beginning of a paragraph or sentence.

Did you watch the video? If so, then you can answer me who specifically am I addressing the results of this survey to? Your arguments are flawed because your interpretation of the content I shared as well as the purpose of the survey is off-base. I don't need to go any further in addressing your diatribe unless you have a better contextual understanding of what this video is about, and who both the summary and the survey itself is primarily intended for.

@@TheNovakReport Yes I did. My arguments are not flawed. The whole video comes from the already converted who correctly chose a vehicle that fits their needs. It would be difficult to argue with the data provided, but that doesnt exclude that some of the comments were wrong or misguided. As for who it was specifically targeted: there's Mrs Jones down the road, Mr Woo from the Chinese restaurant, or in fact anyone, but EVs have been around for long enough for people to have decided what fits their needs and budgets. They know that answer and they dont give a fishes tit about what the Church of the Already Converted say - its irrelevant to them. Its blatantly obvious you are an Electric Jesus lover, hope you dont wear out the knee pads. EVs are not for everyone and the government has no place in forcing them to buy one.

@@csjrogerson2377 Electric Jesus?! LOL...I'm actually agnostic. LOL Thanks again for all these comments. It's great for the channel overall. Your support means a lot!

Did you watch the video? Do you know what the 97% represents and under what jurisdictions?

Those that purchase will still have a 97% approval. They are not rebates, they are tax credits. It might prevent some from switching,.but it's not going to change the satisfaction rate of those that buy an EV.

Far, far more people never need to haul massive trailers for hundreds of kilometers compared to those that do. And impractical for emergencies? I don't understand that comment.

@TheNovakReport The electrical grid is fragile, so now you understand. And road trips are terrible even if you aren't hauling things

@MrGriff305-d3u the grid is not fragile, and EVs would not jeopardize the grid. The oil and gas industry is actually a bigger drain on the grid than EVs. A single oil pump jack uses more energy in one month to operate than a Tesla Model 3 uses in 3 years. And there are more than 400,000 pump jacks operating in North America alone. Maybe the fragility of the grid, in your words has more to do with the massive amount of energy needed to extract, upgrade, enhance, refine and transport oil and gas than the much smaller amount of energy needed to drive an EV.

@MrGriff305-d3u it sounds like you have never done a road trip in an EV.

@@TheNovakReport Really? The grid isn't fragile? I remember the entire northeast portion of the United States having a blackout for basically no reason. Also, I've personally been without power for many many weeks due to storms in Florida, and even my time in New Jersey wasn't safe from that. In any disaster or attack scenario, the power grid would be enormously unreliable. And yes, I've tried a road trip in an EV. Driving under 70 to maximize range sucks, the range still sucks, finding a charger sucks, and waiting for the charge sucks (assuming the charger is available and works when you find one). There are hundreds of KZbin videos to confirm. Hybrids are hugely superior in that regard.

So, the 97% of 23,000 respondent EV owners who are happy about owning an EV are deluluu?? Yeah, okay....

So says a guy with a fake profile and calls himself John Wayne. Thanks for the comment tough guy...it helps my algorithms.

@@TheNovakReport Don't get too personal I'm fed up with U tube\ers bullshiters

You spelled "Informative and accurate KZbin commentary" incorrectly. Silly mistake, but it happens. Thanks again for the additional comment. It's very helpful!

@@peterforint2663 you're spot on, Peter! Being able to just pay with any bank card would increase adoption on its own by a few points. It's unnecessarily complicated at the moment and hopefully change will come soon!

Used EVs are increasingly common and they have a much lower cost of ownership compared to gas. Batteries are lasting much longer than originally predicted also. A cheap used gas vehicle usually needs a lot of maintenance and repairs, so always look at what you spend in total each month for gas, maintenance and repairs to gauge if it's actually cheaper in the end.

@@TheNovakReport Of course there are used EVs, 40 million have been produced in the last 20 years and they are cheap coz they depreciate quicker than a falling stone, which means some poor tw@t has had to suffer that from new. The much lower cost of ownership is a glib statement. It depends on what you compare it to. You know what the factors are, but you are just vomiting the mantra. It would take 2,000,000Kms for an EV to break even with my car. More conservative comparisons with larger ICE produce break even points at 130,000-300,000Kms.

@@csjrogerson2377 Of course Gen 1 EVs depreciate fast. That's what happens when you're in the midst of a rapidly advancing technology. How many people have an original plasma TV that cost $10K when they first came out? Nobody because who would own one now when something many times better costs multiple times less. That's the funny thing about technology...when it gets better, it also becomes cheaper. That's also why renewable energy will surpass fossil fuels because it's already cheaper to generate in many parts of the world compared to oil and gas. Third world you say? Renewable energy has the greatest potential to change the third world because due to micro grid technology it can leapfrog over traditional grid infrastructure. Go online for yourself and see how many villages in sub-Saharan Africa or in the South Pacific have electricity because of solar panels built on straw hut roof tops. Go see how school children in Sierra Leone are connected to the internet thanks to laptops that run on small solar sheets and the village has wind power to run it's internet. Peak oil is coming faster than you realize, but you'll probably shoot back some right wing think tank hyperbolic rhetoric to contest that. I don't really care because your views don't really matter any more. We've gone too far for your views to change anything.

@@TheNovakReport What a load of pathetic, irrelevant nonsense. Solar panel on a grass hut in the Sahara or an island in Polynesia is immaterial in terms of a countries national grid. You really are clutching at straws and showing you have no logical coherence in your responses. Apology accepted re lying about oil and gas demand. It appears that only Gen 1 are the only 2 nd hand EVS cars that depreciate. You really are dishonest and incredibly naive, dare I say, intellectual, yet stupid.. Nobody believes such bollox.

@@TheNovakReport Funny you bring up a plasma TV. We still have a 50 inch we bought for $600 about 10 years ago. Better, truer picture than any of these new tech TVs out there today.

You can keep your ICE, but don't expect to be able to buy a new ICE forever. The days of new ICE availability are inching to a close.

Thanks, Eric for that informative video. We have an ICE and two hybrids in the family, they work well for the functions that they’re used for all the electric for us is a little while off, but it will come probably in the next 10 to 15 years.

@@advredbikes I would think you're likely to be in something electric sooner than that. They make a lot of sense for a lot of reasons and the biggest hurdle is usually what we think as opposed to what they're capable of. Thanks, as always Neil!

@@TheNovakReport With sales of EVs tanking and new governments are shifting more to the right, EVs will never take off until the tech is a lot further along. More than likely hybrids will take over, and hybrids make a lot more sense that just a straight EV. Toyota hybrids (non plug in) are a step in the right direction over just pure EVs as they use far safer batteries. You're never going to get rid of the ICE. You also need to travel 100k miles just to offset the pollution that making an EV causes when compared to a ICE car.

@NoOne56488 sales of EVs are not tanking, such as what certain ideologues would want you to believe. Actual new vehicle registrations in Canada, the US and in many other countries continue to break historic new levels. Again, this is according to actual vehicle registrations. Hybrids have been around for over 20 years. The internal combustion engine for over a century, yet both remain far less efficient at energy conversion than battery electric. And you are incorrect about how long it takes for an EV to exceed a gas vehicle in terms of a lower footprint. Your data is way out of date as new EVs are made with far less footprints and the next EVs will be even better. EVs have made more advancements in 15 years than ICE have made in over 100 years. And no, ICE vehicles won't disappear. But the ICE ecosystem necessary to exist will continue to shrink and devolve, to the point where ICE vehicles will be relegated to the laggards and the hobbyists, but not much else. Change is always hard, but it's harder for some more than others and this change, which is inevitable and already passed the Tipping Point will be no different.

It does?

You can't please everyone. BTW, the music last 40 seconds and the video is much, much longer. And if you like different sounds, the exhaust notes of the SVR is worth the watch.

Yep!

The whole purpose of the video was to have fun, as I knew full well that these are not vehicles that would typically be compared. These are just EVs at opposite ends of the spectrum. As for MPGe comparisons, I can't help as the EPA considers the Cybertruck a heavy duty vehicle and doesn't require energy efficiency ratings as a result. I'd love to tell you but the info isn't available.

@@TheNovakReport MPGe for Fiat 500e is 121, I've seen cybertruck 600hp AWD MPGe estimate of 70. How bout a demonstration of parking and bill paying.

@@bikenpdx I had the 500e only for a week and the Cybertruck for a day. So, I'm afraid a fun sprint between the two is all I can offer by way of comparisons. That said, I do have a full review of each separately on my channel, so please feel free to watch them both.

$24K is the price for the base model Essential trim, but that isn't comparable to the features offered in the 500e. To be comparable, you're looking at the Ultimate trim and it's $28,200 price instead. So the gap is more like $9,500 instead of the almost $14,000 as you suggest. According to NRCan their estimated annual fuel cost for a Venue is $2,175, while the estimate annual energy costs for a 500e is $608 or savings of $1,567 per year. Estimates for basic annual maintenance for a Venue start at $197 in year 1 up to $737 in year 5. For a 500e those figures go from $63 to $376. EVs also have other benefits such as the ability to drive in HOV lanes even with one occupant - a big savings in time depending on where you live and how much you drive. This isn't to make a case one way or another. It's only to point out that when total cost of ownership is determined the roughly $9,500 gap in purchase price gets whittled away a lot more than you think, and the price gap is far closer overall.

Thank you, Neal, as always!

Thanks for your comment, and I generally agree with what you said. The 500e Abarth that I've heard about adds about 60 hp and I'm sure is more fun than this unit I drove. But I think if they really wanted to, they could get something over 200 hp and that would be fun, given it's small size and weight. There are more micro EVs coming to North America. The Kia EV3 and the Vinfast VF3 are two that quickly come to mind. I don't know if we'll see many performance micro EVs at first, but there definitely is a "fun-factor" potential that would be tempting for many if peppier variants are offered.

Dacia isn't available in North America, but I appreciate the comment and suggestion.

Except that a) batteries in EVs are lasting more than 8-10 years on average. In fact, there isn't an EV available in North America that isn't warrantied for at least 8 years with 70% of charge compared to new being the threshold. And b) prices for EV batteries are dropping all the time. In fact there was a new academic study released which said EV batteries will be cheaper than gas engines by 2030 - or less than your 8-10 year dire prediction. I think you need to update your false rhetoric.

Maybe a longer lease? More money down? Take a lower residual?

The motor is 87kW and not kWh as it is does not store energy. The motor provides the power which draws from the 42kWh battery where the energy is stored to propel the single motor. As for efficiency the official US rating is 116 MPGe or 29 kWh/100 Miles. In Canada the figure is around19 kWh/100 KM. This makes is slightly better than average compared to other EVs on the market.

Vous avez mal orthographié la plus grande invention...

I assume that you are in California then? There weren't many places where you can get a 2016 500e.

​​@@TheNovakReportI'm actually further north. The early 500e's were sold exclusively in Oregon and California (in the US). I bought mine from a reputable used EV dealer in Oregon. It was just off a 3yr lease and I got it for around 1/4th the sticker price. Going from a '97 Ranger (I'm not really a truck guy) to the Fiat it paid for itself in the 4 years I had it.

@kersplat12785 Ahh, OK. Would you ever consider a '25?

@TheNovakReport Yes, except for the size issue. In 2019 my kids were toddlers. Now they're not. I love the idea of having another Fiat but I need space in the back. As much as I loved it, that's just something the 500e couldn't provide.

How many ICE base models cost under $15K?

Moi je l'aime bien ce cybertruck. Vivement qu'on puisse l'acheter en Europe.😊

I have a full review of the Cybertruck and in it I also say that it's not a vehicle for me. But, as much as Elon Musk was the principle reason behind the growth of Tesla, the company is now 121,000 employees strong. Most of the innovation that happens in any of their vehicles is due to the thousands of designers and engineers at the company more than it is their CEO. I have zero love for Musk given how far off the deep end he's gone, but I think it's unfair to label the company with him nowadays. I think the company has grown beyond his shadow, and rightly so.

Do you own one? Have you driven one?

I compared it because I had access to both at the same time. And it also showed just how broad a range of EVs exist today on the marketplace. It wasn't to prove which is better for they're completely different. It was simply a fun attempt to compare. Don't read anything deeper into it.

I respect that you found time to respond to this generic comment

@mcdonaldsstuff I respect that you took the time to watch the video. Thank you.

Ok assle go sleep 🤡💀

If you watched the video, you would know if I bought it or not.

Some channels get clicks by destroying vehicles. That's not what I do here. This video was just an attempt to try something fun because I had access to two completely different EVs at the same time. Nothing deeper to interpret.

It doesn't require it if you have the FOB instead.

Very kind of you to say this. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

The issue with regulations had to do with the Steer-by-wire technology and a rule that admittedly I had no idea existed. It seems that steering wheels in Canada have to be able to turn 270 degrees in a rotation, which the Cybertruck doesn't. But having now experienced the drive-by-wire system, it's not a safety issue at all, but one of getting used to. With 4 wheel steering the turning radius of the truck is remarkably small and the wheel only turns a bit beyond 90 degrees (if I recall). But it's no different in some respects to one getting used to a different placement of certain controls, or going from a console with many buttons to one with primarily touchscreen controls. As someone who needs to get used to new controls every week, I don't see the steer by wire accommodation as a big deal. It took me about 10 minutes to get used to the way this thing steers.