STOP the thefts.Fob in a tin can? FIESTA ST

[@Sparkplugsteve]

What did you think of the video people?

[@J25ORS]

I enjoyed that Steve. Well done. So weird how not all the tins worked. I will deffo be trying some stuff out.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

yeh it suprised me too. is it the shape? does round work better.? let me know how you get on if you do some tests. thanks

[@lewisrowezer7193]

Great and informative, thanks :)

[@stepheng887]

I don’t even own an ST yet and I’m already planning out coffee tins... 😏

[@reecestewart97]

Hi Steve, yeah I'm enjoying the channel so far and find it very informative as I'm picking an ST up tomorrow. Keep up the good work!

[@evilutionltd]

The only way to deter Ford thefts is to put a switch inline with the CAN bus wire from the OBD. That's because on this model, they don't boost the key signal on these models. They use the OBD port to turn off the alarm and then code new keys. If you hide a switch under the dash that cuts the CAN bus line to the OBD, they would have to get better access to the car to look for it which would set the alarm off for all of the time they are looking.

[@thegan9143]

10sec in and the answer to your question is to shoot thieves, it really cuts down on re-offenders.

[@Therandomlifeofmarks]

How do I get the crims to steal my wife’s polo so we can buy a fiesta st?

[@Sparkplugsteve]

i think that going to be a difficult one. even crims have standards you know ;)

[@Therandomlifeofmarks]

That’s what I was afraid of 🥵

[@stepheng887]

> Sell the car > Tell your wife it was stolen = Profit

[@chichi-iw2ik]

Get your pals to stage a car robbery. Then they sell it and give you your money.

[@mattyb7088]

Write it off

[@Bladerunner4511]

Great video modern technology there are always a way round it I'm from the veihcle security industry I think it might be time to fit the aftermarket imobilisers which work via touch key which first appeared in the 80s and maybe additional alarm systems to go with it I remember when cosworths were the thiefs target and fitting all sorts of devices to prevent theft a separate adr cards worked as well great trick with the tin have a good day thanks for Sharing

[@ZaphodBeeb1]

After watching your video I tried using aluminium foil to block the signal on my keyless entry 2016 Focus. It worked a treat from any distance including next to the windows. Only one layer of cooking foil was enough to do the trick. Thieves foiled ! (sorry about that, but I had to say it).

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Its really fascinating to me how it works. glad its helped you out and thanks for warching

[@samsungs8821]

New to the channel subscribed today it's possibly one of the best car channels on KZbin it's up there with living life fast and Lee Lockwood channels...keep it up Steve

[@the.internet]

My 1989 Fiesta has a key which does nothing but unlock doors and fire up the ignition, manually! You can probably get into it using a block of cheese but I have a steering lock I'm hoping will continue to deter scumbags. Granted, I don't get many toys inside to play with, but you don't see me having to lug tins of baked beans and mints around as security devices. Lol

[@gravemind6536]

I am more concerned that a thief would consider it worth stealing at all.

[@the.internet]

@@gravemind6536 Haha, give it another few years and its time will come again to be desirable!

[@JP94]

Hahaha true you could start old fiestas with a flathead screwdriver 😂

[@gravemind6536]

@@JP94 You could start a vauxhall Nova by removing the Hazard light button and reinserting it upside down.

[@MnemonicCarrier]

Wish I had of seen this video before my car was stolen. Have learned a lot about how these thieves operate now. There used to be one method where thieves could record your fob's signal and play it back from another device, but newer systems safeguard against this. The method that's very common now is simply amplifying your fob's signal in real-time. I now use a Faraday box for my keys, have a Faraday wallet, installed the Ghost II immobilizer, and have a hidden tracker which is monitored by a security company (who immediately alert me if the car is moved without being started). I also have a wheel clamp I use when I have to go abroad for any length of time. They keyless entry/ignition system is flawed, and car dealers/manufactures should be warning people at the point of purchase. I bought another expensive car - it'll be a cold day in hell before I let thieves dictate what car I can/can't buy. By the way - also remember to protect your spare key!!

[@bigginhillant]

spent the last three hours watching your st videos mate impressed keep ya videos coming tony adplumbing

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Thanks very much

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Thank you very much

[@geraldwalsh6489]

Good tip Steve. Love the Welsh accent.....hope u like my Irish one!!! Was in Wales in 2002...very nice (Rhyll)

[@Yestes]

Where I live in Birmingham they just point a knife at you

[@mattyb7088]

tHe ReAL DEal one day someone will pull a gun out

[@shawncannon5689]

Here in the states they put a gun to your head. I enjoy your videos . Keep it up

[@MrBigtaf]

They would have to stick me with it for me to give up my car....not giving it up to some scrote when I’ve worked hard to get it

[@bensonmerritt4605]

Yer and then you pull out your 9mill and tell them to do one

[@ChristopherWoods]

All you need to do is find something which completely blocks the frequency used by the keyfob. The problem is thieves with good kit have the ability to boost the signal from the key, so many Faraday pouches and biscuit tin / alu foil DIY methods don't sufficiently inhibit the signal to prevent the keyless theft. You need to buy a good Faraday pouch with a high signal attenuation. The relay attack works by having a pair of transceivers which operate on the same frequency of the car transceiver and the fob. They 'bridge' between car and key as well as wirelessly link to each other, allowing a thief to stand by the car with one unit and another to walk around a building until their unit detects the key signal. They can boost the weak keyfob signal so even hiding it inside metal boxes doesn't always work. Some of the relay kits can also learn and impersonate the real keyfob allowing thieves to lock/unlock the car at whim. Once the immobiliser is disabled, anyone with the right tool can code a new key from the CAN port. You're seriously recommended to physically relocate the OBD port. I've done so, it's easy, and also perhaps install a nonfunctional fake in its place which looks identical but does nothing. (I am contemplating wiring data pins to the battery...)

[@PYakMan1]

Hi Steve you need to make a Faraday box, this isolates all radio signals and is super cheap easy. Any of the tins and wind copper wire around the outside of the tin until the signal is blocked. Maybe line inside and outside of tin with Aluminium foil also as this boosts the blocking ability of the materials, seems like it is all down to personal experimentation as very worthwhile stopping scumbags stealing your pride and joy for a few pennies/minutes isn't it ;-)

[@andrewswinglehurst8102]

Just a thought what If you lined one of the tins that didn’t block the signal with tin foil ??

[@TheQraftyQomic]

Stumbled upon your entertaining and informative video. You kinda had me at gum tin. Was sorry that tin didn’t work but you’ve inspired me to try some of the small tends I’ve kept for rainy day up cycling and craft fun. Thank you! 🙏

[@TheQraftyQomic]

Dear Sparkplug Steve, I did it! I found a small empty Godiva candy tin at home and gave this RFID blocking thing a go. Holy smokes!!! The tin actually worked and WELL! Thank you so much for your video. I’ll tag you if I can get a video done. Thanks again.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Cool glad it worked for you.

[@williamoneill1319]

I've had far to much coffee ☕today great video thanks again 👍

[@stevie007]

Another good way of protecting your key less entry key fob is to place it in a microwave , blocks any unauthorized incoming signal. Please note mate sure you remove the keys before you re-heat you pies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or just find a old non working one at the local tip ////// job done.

[@thesketchbank]

Thanks Steve! Jean Paul Gaultier worked a treat (even without a lid).

[@softemosh]

Thank you so much!! I’m planning on getting a Ford Fiesta so this is very helpful info!! 💓

[@paulcadman3562]

Great video , and very interesting 👍

[@BantonOrg]

So you have to put the key in some sort of signal blocking package or tin and hide it somewhere also because the more motivated have been breaking into houses for keys. It happened to my brother but they couldn't find the key so stole his work van and daughters car. Of course this could turn violent too.

[@CB-qk2sj]

Aluminium works best. Even with a solid steel combination safe the signal still gets through. Coke can or tin foil stops the signal

[@StephenButlerOne]

I seen a you tube video last week about a company that can program a software pin combo into your ecu. Basically you pick a combo of buttons (any buttons you chose) that you need to press before you hit the start button. Self configurable and doesn't effect warrenty.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

hi is that the autowatch ghost? they look a good device.

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@Sparkplugsteve yes that's the one.

[@TheMcooper17]

i have the good old turn key to start

[@markellis4229]

Mr. Bean had the right idea of theft protection just take the steering wheel off problem solved Lol 😂

[@geraldwalsh6489]

And dont forget the padlock as well

[@markellis4229]

@@geraldwalsh6489 Lol 😂👍

[@gerryduggan6821]

Classsssss😅🤣😂🤣👍

[@kd2833]

with renault if u lock it with ur key and not keyless entry the keyless is off and u cant steal it. does this not work on the fiesta ?

[@craigmarvin4612]

I guess the car holds the immobiliser off once it has the signal for a length of time. Maybe worth opening and closing the door to provoke it to search for the fob signal. Back in the day I’d hide a switch under the seat that broke the feed to the ignition coil. The problem with any security measures you put in place means it’s more likely that the scrote has to come into your house.

[@nijjyspiers73]

Great vlog steve, very good tests, I use tinfoil and then put them in a Faraday wallet, £4, of Amazon.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

thanks nigel. i heard it works but to actually experience it was fascinating.

[@Krysstophe]

I bought a little pouch off of amazon for about £6 for a 2 pack, stick it in there whenever I get home. Means I don’t lose the key and it blocks my keyless entry

[@sciencefact]

These don’t work forever

[@PhatstuffVlogs]

Great vid made me aware of driving around mossside liverpool and cheetham hill

[@fastfez2520]

Obd relocate. obd disabled reactivated by dongle fob. Faraday bag for key. Disklok, revo sps switch with anti theft mode and quick release steering wheel

[@Sparkplugsteve]

thats a great anti theft spec. i read the faraday bags stop working after a while. not tried one myself

[@fastfez2520]

Great vid steve, but dont forget to keep your spare key wrapped in tin foil too.

[@fastfez2520]

Also have an electronic handbrake whuch cant be turned off while car is in anti theft mode, and that cant be turned pf without the sps switch, and that cant be turned off without the obd port dongle and knowing the kill switch buttons i have programmed on the radio 😂

[@Sparkplugsteve]

@@fastfez2520 and for good measure a spike under the driver seat activated by tnt. :)

[@fastfez2520]

Spark Plug Steve i was thinking more the electric killer belt to stop car thieves from robocop 2

[@CrazyCoachDriver]

Another great video Steve keep it up

[@Sparkplugsteve]

thank you appreciate the comment.

[@josephtucciarone6878]

Excellent advice. Thank you.

[@turnerthemanc]

UPDATE: Got my Fiesta Eco Boost back. The thieves reprogram the car via the OBD2 socket which is located behind a mini- glove box-like flap to the right of the steering. Squeeze the sides in and it folds right out. A clip on either side of the OBD socket and push it through. Push it up into the wires, or left, or right. Up to you. Lower the glove compartment (thats where the fuses are, behind) like you did by squeezing in the OBD cover and remove fuse 19. That kills the data line in the OBD. I made a sticker on my Labeller for the drivers wing mirror "OBD port moved." You cant miss it when the mirror folds in. Bought a wheel lock too. Its reduced the odds of "drive away" theft significantly. Keys in a small biscuit tin when not in use. Hope this helps. Its about reducing odds by increasing their time at the car.

[@genomedia44]

To reprogram your car they first need to get in. To get in they would've captured your fob's signal, amplified it. If they can't reprogram it, because they have your fob's frequency, can't they still just drive away with your car?

[@turnerthemanc]

@@genomedia44 sorry..yeah, they smashed the window to plug into the socket

[@ipwnxdemonzz4223]

What’s he using on the lock outside to try and open the door

[@siccnote2570]

Just to give you a little tip you can make a wooden box any size and line it with tin foil also work done that for my 2016 s-max

[@patrese993]

Does the ST have that keyless start system as standard? I'm very glad our Fiesta doesn't have that. Unless you can remote control your car (like the BMW 5 series), who orders that sh** anyway?

[@mrbattyburger]

Thing is though its people with a codeable key that will code a key from bouncing the signal from your key when you lock/unlock, best way to avoid is using the key to open the door manually

[@MrBigtaf]

You can now buy a ‘faraday’ pouch which are big enough for a small bunch of keys to stop what they call relay theft’

[@madmikeproductionsuk]

I keep my key in a metal box so the device they use can’t read the signal works a treat 😉 Well metal office draws and I have a few lol

[@henrysiegertsz8204]

Polished the Jag and saw another from you! The tin needs to be grounded to a good earth to make it an effective Farady cage which would block the keys radio signal. Unearthed, it will act as an antenna attenuator instead. A piece of equipment known as a frequency spectrum analyser would show, though, the various cans do attenuate, (reduce) the fob radio signal. However, because your sitting inside the car, the signal strength is still within set limits, the Car Key radio receiver needs to take into account, for low key fob battery level. Hence the varied success of the experiment.

[@monojoygk820]

2 X Car Key Signal Blocker Case, Faraday Pouch for Car Keys

[@jaspers7636]

Some cans don't close as well as others that's why some arn't blocking the signal. Some cans start off with blocking the signal and wear out afther many open and closes. I'd say use aluminium foil and grab a new piece every week or so it tends to wear out quite fast, atleast it's inexpensive. I use a stoplock pro + OBD relocated + aluminium foil. Then again if they really want it they can get it. But this slows them down alot.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Iv read the farady pouches stop working after a while. I will check my tins again at a later date and see if it still works.

[@samsara3694]

I don't quite get what this is trying to do. The issue with fob-jacking is with keyless entry, not keyless start? And to really test these solutions you'd have to test a keyless entry?

[@SheronajoyJoy]

How about glass jars,

[@seanstephens494]

Tracker and clifford 365 black jax id Recommend 👍

[@josephtucciarone6878]

A small plastic box that fits better can be lined with your foil.

[@Paul-tg4xg]

Ford focus ST Tried and tested. KENCO MILLICANO tin Protect your car and enjoy a great cup of coffee. Works a treat.

[@ryanoniel5986]

Nice vid mate

[@meknownothing]

Well it wouldn't surprise me car thieft in Wales I guess if it's been stolen it will be over Blackwood mountain or somewhere like that

[@BoCaRdrecovery]

buy your self a cable for your fiesta that supports forscan then you can disable your tpms light cable cost like 15 quid you can use it for diag and changing stuff to your fiesta

[@BoCaRdrecovery]

Forscan easy to use message if you get stuck tho

[@frundlemud]

Very helpful diolch

[@mattyb7088]

They don't steal fiesta st with fob amplifier they break window plug a device in obd port disarm alarm then clone a blank fob n then there off

[@genomedia44]

This makes more sense to me

[@samjessopp]

As a Welshman to a Welshman nice video butt

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Its a faraday cage. But I think you need to earth it to make it work properly.

[@gbeats3843]

Bless for this .

[@h3lsing0]

Any car with keyless entry is vunerable to the car being unlocked. So not just ford Indiekeeko.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Hes just upset he hasnt got an st. ;)

[@gravemind6536]

The car being unlocked is not the problem the problem is they are able to then start the engine keylessly and drive off. Cars have had keyless entry for 2 decades and it wasn't a problem before because the key was still need to start the engine. cars in the 2004-2009 era were the very peak of car security and thieves just couldn't get them moving so would instead find a way to steal they keys which is easier. Now they just get a computers off ebay that can be used to steal your new cars.

[@fordyford]

Cool little tip, I wonder how effective it is against the thieves technology. Non relevant question, how useful do you find your boost gauge in the vent on a daily basis? It's something I want to do but where I have the steering wheel my hand blocks my view of the vent. Wondered if it was the same for you and if it bothered you as a daily feature.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

yes to be honest it is a little obstructed and you have to tilt your head to properly see it. but its something i rarely check unlike the other guages.

[@airaction2257]

I have heard this works as my mate tried it but he said the battery on his key fob was going flat quicker, don't know if that is an issue just saying !

[@bongodave13]

Here in the US, FiSTs aren't very popular cars. Between the lack of demand for them, and the fact that most Americans can't drive a stick, mine's pretty safe. I have a fob shield thing, anyway, just in case.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

It's so different in the UK. I can't keep up with the stores of theft I read. Its every day.

[@CouchMan88]

Commented scrolled down and saw you basically said the same thing I did. I could leave my windows down in front of a train station and my car would be there when I came back.

[@olivertaylor4779]

That's the classic joke for the US. What's the best anti theft device in America -stick shift. lol. But you do have really cheap petrol and some awesome v8 cars.

[@ICHall-og5zk]

I liked the video , how come you arent pressing the clutch down when youre trying to start the car when your fob is in tins or foil I have a edge and it wont start unless the clutch is pressed down , is it different for a fiesta

[@Sparkplugsteve]

thank you. i wasnt trying to start it, just put the ignition on. but it does need the clutch to starrt

[@barriemcarthur8062]

Good video thanks....but maybe also try a more realistic scenario of the tin can and foil inside your house...just to be sure? Or, better still can one of the "SCUM" help you do that test?

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Hi. I was thinking if it blocks the signal at such a close range then it would he even better in the house. I don't have keyless entry so could only test from inside the car also. Thanks for watching

[@mac9192]

Get a pandora alarm 🚨: the alarm comes with driver tags and it won’t start even if you have the original key ! The pandora immo is around £400 and the immo and alarm is only £100 at £500 👍

[@dennismcclain1931]

Battery kill switch to the ignition is all that's needed so they can't start the car.

[@deanmarsh1452]

We have a Plug & Play immobiliser for the Fiesta ST keyless. Fire me a message and I'll send one over!

[@Sparkplugsteve]

hi thank you. where can i contact you to?

[@deanmarsh1452]

@@Sparkplugsteve [e-mail]

[@fasthracing]

Is yours a ST3 with so called "keyless" entry? I have a ST2 without so wonder if I need to do this?

[@Roadwarrior92]

No

[@fasthracing]

@@Roadwarrior92 Thanks

[@Roadwarrior92]

Np

[@ChocoBloxx1]

Time to buy some coffee 😂

[@Sparkplugsteve]

dont worry theres full tins in the house. thanks for watching.

[@pushinglimits3285]

All the money ford spend engineering a car and they didn't think of this problem...!?🤷🏼‍♂️🙄

[@Goodchappy]

Why did I smile all the way through this? "Sorry about the mess in the car, the wife doesn't clean it out that often". Thanks for cheering me up. I have a 5 door ST. What are your thoughts about the overheating/possible fire issues that a few people have had? I am told my ST is OK as it was built in 2017.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Thanks very much. Appreciate the kind words. I heard after late 2014 it was fixed. I'm 2015 and have checked the Ford etis site and my car is not showing for a recall. I think your definatley safe on a 2017.

[@CouchMan88]

Keep an eye on the coolant and temp gauge. If the coolant gets low or the temp get high, either fix it or get rid of it for another one, I have heard after 2016 is safe however due to a redesigned cylinder head/gasket.

[@Goodchappy]

@@CouchMan88 I was told my ST was the last one off the production line for the outgoing shape in 2017.

[@MrNurdiboy]

To be honest though mate our cars are quite safe these days, i mean who in their right minds would want to nick a car that can potentially catch fire these days?:-)

[@Sparkplugsteve]

haha best coment lol

[@drd6416]

Ahhh the joys of the ecoboom engine.....

[@geraldwalsh6489]

Its usually only Opel ZaFIREa's that catch fire. A Zafira caught fire in the hi rise carpark here in Douglas,Cork,Ireland over 12 months ago and destroyed over 60 cars plus the car park. The whole shopping centre had to close for over 12 months! The Opel Insignia also like to catch fire as well. Does that make them hot cars??

[@chitham3191]

Get urself a pandora alarm system 👍

[@mikeyeddison2305]

Glue lead around mint tin will defo block all signal

[@800Viffer]

Why use a magnet to identify steel cans and then use tinfoil? You could have tried aluminium cans as well seeing as the tinfoil worked

[@HanifProductionz]

Soda cans also work like magic, use a tin can opener, open the top and pop ur keys into it, i even leave the top open and my car still cant detect the key, enjoy!....

[@TheCheshireCat.]

Simple, replace it with an ignition barrel that physically uses a key, Disklok. 👍😉

[@stu13th]

Good idea for home use but not if your sitting in a pub or a restaurant with your car outside, you cant put the can in your pocket can you....lol, Don't be tight and buy yourself's a pouch for a £5

[@JackofDiamonds951]

Stop lock on wheel Works for me

[@TalkieToaster.]

Not sure if you knew this or not but the Police give out free wallets to prevent scummy feckers relaying signals from your keys, my local constabulary in Leicestershire keep some behind the desk.

[@curiousgeorge5992]

Smith an Wesson best fob.....

[@1chish]

I simply do not like all the 'wifi' systems we now have on cars. There is nothing better than a physical key and how difficult is it to turn a key in an ignition lock? A key that folds into itself (VW vans etc) is as conveniant as a 'fob'. When I worked as a Scania fitter they had the door release in the key (you could also run a lighting check off it) but it also had a chip in the key that was encrypted to another chip in the steering column. You might be able to turn the key in the lock but the electrical system stayed dead without that chip. Spare keys had to be synchronised by the dealer. I have a Renault Laguna II that has a 'card' that releases the doors remotely but you have to physically insert the card into a slot. This releases the steering lock and turns the electrical circuits on enabling the engine start button. Maybe we have gone too far with technology. After all if a man invented it another man can break it. By the way that 'tin foil' is actually aluminium. Lol. And another way to recycle cans has been found ... Nice Vlogs mate ....

[@packratswhatif.3990]

Maybe the key-Fobs need an OFF switch.

[@nathanielchapman5047]

Hahaha i was thinking wtf is bistro lol its bisto gravy i think mate

[@Thanos.m]

I have to note it's a bad idea putting may keys in one can they may interfere with each other and stop working

[@UKIP]

Faraday cage. Should be made of Mu-metal.

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

What about a guard dog. Big angry one !!

[@gothikia]

So that's how swingers never get their motors nicked!

[@MrSmith130]

Just go online and buy a proper Faraday bag. They're not expensive.

[@brandonvandonkervoort9916]

A fiesta 😂 in Canada you could leave that in the hood with the keys in it and no one would steal it.

[@kinda_ineffable4275]

Just get a Faraday bag people!

[@uniquewhite1836]

Keyless invented so you don’t need to put a key in the ignition but people will happily go out of there way to put they’re keys in something every night better with a key

[@Spoolie]

I know what I'm buying tomorrow then 😁😂

[@Sparkplugsteve]

Haha. Did the coffee taste good.?

[@Spoolie]

@@Sparkplugsteve haha, no. I was looking at the camera when I put in the vanilla stuff so i put in too much 😂

[@Sparkplugsteve]

@@Spoolie ah shame on you. 🤣

[@Spoolie]

@@Sparkplugsteve 😂😂

[@anthonynewcome128]

lead lined safe with my baseball bat next to it works for me...

[@cameronmilne3590]

I stopped thief's by having the turbo break.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

not the best method but im sure it works lol

[@LondonCarnaval]

Very interesting experiment BUT for me I will never ever invest in a car where the key doesn't have to be in its ignition barrel and yes I know that it still can be hacked but at least the thieves still need the actual key to insert in the ignition. I just replaced my front door with one without the letter opening mechanism and never leave anything on the hallway table and also have an alarm and video recording covering all the windows and front and back door but my dog keep activating the sensors which is headache especially for my neighbours. It's shame that our society became so insecure on all levels.

[@dontevenlikemynameimover1842]

Ur shitting it mate most people got glass front doors if ur wood aint strong enough ill kick it down for ya

[@mcjjordan]

Ghost immobiliser

[@simflan3013]

It's "DON'T steal my car.".."YOU'RE seeing real time"

[@JeandrePetzer]

What is this, my dude? i.imgur.com/sfnfI6D.png I don't have this on my ST3 (Got all the bells and whistles from factory). There's just a hole there

[@turnerthemanc]

forget all this. I had my Fiesta stolen last week. They smashed the window and did something in the car. Dont know what it was, but it was nothing to do with amplifying the signal from your house or they wouldnt need to smash the window. The police recovery garage where it ended up told me that 70% of stolen cars recently were Fiestas. All with the driver window smashed. Takes them 20 seconds, so forget Buscuit tins and smint packets, just get a big fuck-off sreering wheel lock. See....these twats arnt going armed with bolt cuttters and angle grinders anymore, just a centrepunch and some kind of reprogrammer. If they see a wheel lock, they move to the next one.

[@Sparkplugsteve]

They plug a tool into the obd2 port. It's well known if you don't hide that obd2 port your cars vulnerable. There's a few techniques they use and the key scanning is just one of them. It's not the only one

[@turnerthemanc]

@@Sparkplugsteve thanks....and that port can be blocked off in some way. Ill have a thiink and report back

[@Sparkplugsteve]

You pop it out of its factory position then hide it somewhere up behind the dash. You can't chop it out as it's needed to diagnose faults and do car checks etc so you will need access to it but hide it where only you know where it is.

[@turnerthemanc]

@@Sparkplugsteve Thanks for taking time to reply. Its been a great help. Steering lock on the way

[@curtisj2165]

The thickness of the metal in the tins might make the difference