1.5kW Air cooled CNC spindle + VFD.

[@echuckmed5234]

Best video on a VFD I have seen and I’ve seen a lot Lord help me

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thank you very much Echuck. Hopefully it was of some help. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@_desertwalker_]

Thank you for your vid. I have same spindle and a BD600 VDF. I went from clear as mud to seeing the light. Everything I needed to know to get me up and running was shown by you. Great effort Frank.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😃 Excellent, I'm glad it was of some use. Thanks very much for watching 😁👍

[@onomatopoeidia]

Nice work thanks for sharing. I’ve learnt over many years of work with Chinese makers that all these devices are made in the exact same factory and production line as the expensive ones. Sometimes they simply stamp a different brand on them or in rare cases sort them by tolerance with the best ones going to those who pay more or need tighter tolerances.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 100% agree. This spindle is a prime example of "not all Chinese products are rubbish". This spindle is serving me very well and is still one of the best upgrades I have done in the workshop 😁. Thanks very much for watching 😁👍

[@sioul2006]

Hey Frank! I wanted to thank you so much! I’m just starting with CNC and got myself a Stepcraft D-Series! I was thinking about purchasing that spindle! Now, after watching your tutorial I feel confident to buy and set it up! Thank you so much for your detailed explanation! Greetings from Germany!!

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thank you so much for your kind words. I am glad it was of some help. This spindle is still working great, so I would still recommend it. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@astonite3488]

EARTH THE SPINDLE FRANK...

[@tomlittle1125]

Thanks Frank, a very thorough video.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks Tom. Hope it was of some help 😁. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@johncarr123]

What is the reason that you did not run the motor ground to the VFD?

[@aledlind7106]

I bought same motor. this guide was very useful ! thank you.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Thank you Ale 😁. I'm glad it was some help. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@jigsey.]

Excellent video.. I've 2.2kw spindle not wired up yet cause I couldn't find a 4 core cable for the vfd..... Thanks to you I don't need on only 3.... Thanks Frank

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Jigsey. Please don't take any short cuts with the wire. Although the quite dodgy instructions only say to use the three wires, I will be finding a way to add the proper grounding using the forth wire , not only for my own safety but also to protect the CNC from any random EMI that may occur (electrical interference). So you must still get the 4 core. You can get it from RS components I think. Please be safe. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@mountainviewturning5319]

Very nice 👍

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks Chris. Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@azzamody]

4th cable ( earth) where did you connected to in the spindle side , is it loose and taped ??!?!

[@dipillo1963]

exelente ya concretice todo conforme sus directrices gracias

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thank you very much. I hope it was helpful. Thank you for watching 😁👍

[@BasementBear]

Thank you for a great video going into detail, I have been scared of these VFD-things for a while, but you demystified it a bit more for me, maybe I will take the plunge after all... 🤔

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 I've had this now for quite a few months and haven't regretted it for one second 😁. It has handled everything I have thrown at it. And im still amazed at how quiet it is (some times the cutting can get noise if you really push it). Well worth the investment 😁. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@Thesidingsworkshop]

Nice video mate, pucker job of that mate. Looks a decent motor and that bracket is great quality 👌 great to see you back on the tube bud ...... keep an eye out for postman next week 🤣🤣👍

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks Dan. Its almost all installed now 😁. How exciting, i love getting post.. and its not even my birthday yet 😁. Thanks mate 😁👍

[@raymondreyes4244]

Great video Frank, thanks, now how do you know the RPM on the spindle with the VFD? Is thwere a Hz that pertains to certain speeds?

[@azzamody]

I have the same situation , my 500 w spindle died while I was doing 4 axis milling , now I bought the same nee 1.5kw spindle

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 You won't be dissapointed. My one is still working perfectly. Much better than my old spindle. A great investment. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@bblloobb1000]

One, ask, please. I have vfd 1.5kw Vevor with 1.5kw spindle motor air cooled. Before everything, is it posible to send me which Pn arre necesary to change and what values.Thanks a lot

[@metalmickyturnson]

Hi, Iv’e bought the same kit from Vevor but I have used the default settings as have you I believe? But mine doesn’t start up in forward or reverse unless I give it a twist. All on the settings shown in the manual. Did you change acceleration time Pn08 (default 50S) and Pn09 (default 50S). It’s exactly the same combo as yours. Any ideas?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Hi Michael. From what I can remember I have left the acceleration time as default (its a bit slow to start but its working fine) so I think I will leave it as it is. Sounds like it could be a different issue. I would suggest re checking the wiring or contacting Vevor directly. Hopefully they can help. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@metalmickyturnson]

@@frankslittleworkshop all sorted thanks. I checked the correct wiring three times from the VFD to the Motor. Three times I got it wrong! Old age has nothing going for it! On reflection however, I get all the time I want in the workshop and away from “she who must be obeyed!🤣

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@metalmickyturnson 🤣🤣 I know the feeling. Getting on is not always helpful 🤣🤣. Glad you got it sorted. Now you can spend more time making stuff... or at least watching the CNC make stuff 🤣🤣. Thanks Michael, stay safe 😁👍

[@trevstan593]

HI, just found your channel and its great,. Am just starting on my own wood carving/burning journey, Do you have any info or videos ont CNC machine you are using please. I have been looking at the OOZnest, but I like the look and the size you have. many thanks Trev.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😃 Hi Trev, welcome 😁. My CNC is one of the original "Ooznest OX" frames. Everything else i have made up by buying separate components from the Internet. Ooznest do not make this anymore as it was replaced by the workbee kit. So my machine is quite old now. But just search for Ooznest OX there are a couple of older videos on here that show a basic setup. I should really update my machine but it is just so good and it just "works" without any issues. I think ill just stick with it 😁. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@trevstan593]

@@frankslittleworkshop Thats great, thanks for the info. I will keep looking.. Do you have any Garage/Workshop layout plans.. I have a garage, but it seems you have so much more space 😀, I am always having to move stuff to do stuff.. Have already made a list of all your videos I intend to watch.. Great channel..

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@trevstan593 😁 Thanks Trev. There are a hell of a lot more CNC machine kits available now than there were back in 2016 when I made mine. Which means you can pick up parts or kits for a lot less than my setup cost so shop around and build the machine that suits your needs. My workshop is actually not very big at all (slightly longer than a single garage). Watch my shop tour video, the layout and size is basically still the same as it was then). I still have to move stuff to do stuff, the trick is to make it as easy as possible to move things (wheels on everything). Keep me posted on your progress. Thanks again Trev for taking the time to watch along 😁👍

[@dieterkapp2426]

thanks for the very good explanation. Can you please recommend a suitable ramp up time and a good default frequency, I guess it is better to use e.g. 300 Hz for default ?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Dieter, I have left the ramp up time as the default value. But I should really make it a little faster as sometimes it seems a bit slow. But for me it is good as I never work my machine very hard (hopefully it will make it last longer 😁). Also the same for the default frequency, I have left it as it was, I can always increase and decrease depending on the material I'm cutting. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@cyberlizardcouk]

now you've had it a year or so, how has it turned out. have there been any issues with it. i only ask as I am considering purchasing one to replace my Katsu router.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Cyberlizard. Well what can I say... this spindle and VFD have been faultless 😁. Its as good now as it was on the first cut. Probably the best upgrade I've made to my CNC since I built it. I would highly recommend it as a replacment to a router. It is so much quieter so you won't be dissapointed. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@JordyP89]

Hi Frank, What's the diameter of the face that the ER collet butts up against? If this is a poor description, its the diameter of what your holding in your left hand at 4:59. Thank you

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁Hi Jordan. Sorry for the delay with my answer (work gets in the way some times). The first 6mm is 48mm then the next 10mm is 50mm. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@CarlosLopez-nw2uo]

hi, i just start with that spindle , but i want to know what temperature it reach , because i notice overheat on it , thanks

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Hi Carlos, it obviously depends how hard you work it. I always run mine under a very low load (more shallow cuts, NOT deep cuts). It will get warm, but I have used mine for hours at a time with no over heating issues. If you are using it for heavy work it may have been better to get the liquid cooled unit. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching Carlos 😁👍

[@CarlosLopez-nw2uo]

@@frankslittleworkshop ok thank you....greeting from cuba

[@ValMartinIreland]

Can Frank or someone else tell me what is the product description of that item? Could it hold twist drills and/or milling cutters? if so up to what size? I suspect that would make a good tool to mount of the top slide of my lathe for working on work held in the chuck.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Val. If you just do a Google search for a 1.5kW cnc spindle you will find this unit. For information it has an ER11 collet. Which means it will take bits normally up to 7mm shank. You can also get imperial size collet inserts. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching Val 😁👍

[@ValMartinIreland]

@@frankslittleworkshop Thank you Frank. I wonder if this could be used for light milling and drilling if mounted on a milling attachment of a 3 foot lathe. Particularly on work already machined in the lathe chuck.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@ValMartinIreland 😁 Hi Val. In theory this could be possible. However, I have never tried it so cannot confirm if it would work or not 🤔. At 1.5kW it should be man enough for light milling work but nothing too heavy. With the VFD you have good speed control (for different material applications) so I can't see why not. But as I say, I've never tried so I don't really know. Thanks Val, hope this is of some help 😁👍

[@philipchristian9935]

Hello Frank! Wondering if you would recommend this for a router table setup? Thanks!

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Philip. Obviously I have never mounted mine to be used as a router. But to be honest I think it would be better to use a "proper" router. Although this spindle would be more than capable I think a real router would be better. These spindles are designed for longer periods of work (constant lighter load), but a router is designed for shorter periods of higher loads (I.e. short heavy cuts). So personally I would go for a tool that is actually designed for the job. Plus, most router tables will accept the existing router body and plunge function for secure mounting. If you use the spindle you will need additional mounting brackets and mechanisms. I hope that all makes some sense. Thanks for watching Philip 😁👍

[@philipchristian9935]

@@frankslittleworkshop thanks for the thoughtful response. I completely agree. I should possibly upgrade my cnc with this type of spindle since I currently am using a makita palm router.

[@rbondy008]

Just looking to upgrade. What are your thoughts please 2 years later?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 After a couple of years of use I would still 100% reccomend this spindle. Its still performing faultlessly. Still the best upgrade I have done to my CNC. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@MicroFourThirdsCorner]

Thanks for the video. How much power is the 1.5KW spindle drawing at the wall socket when running? I'm interesting in knowing the peak and constant power draw if possible, watts or amps. Thanks!

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

y that would be interesting, i don't trust that 1,5 kw value at all xD

[@trcwm]

Hi Frank, thanks for making this video. The new spindle does sounds really quiet! During the noise demonstration, I think there were some low frequency vibrations reaching the microphone directly through the table, making the new spindle sound louder than it would be when mounted on the gantry. I was also very happy to see there were no electrical paths from the outside of the spindle to the electronics. Thanks again!

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks very much. I'm still loving it and it is indeed so so much quieter than the old one. And it has been faultless since I mounted it. Thanks again for watching 😁👍

[@vicentecarrasco3653]

hi，do you know which is the maximum temperature of the spindle motors？

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Hi Vincente. I'm sorry but I don't have the maximum operating temperature information. I do not work my one very hard so it has never really got very hot. Thats why I didn't go for the water cooled version. Sorry. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@gerokatseros]

Greate tutorial!! I got myself the same VFD and motor, and I wonder what AWG should the shielded cable be. I believe this is in regards to the amps the spindle draws. How many are they? What AWG rating is each cable in the 4 cores shielded cable (or how many square mm). Thanks in advance

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks for your great comment 😁. I've just looked through the information I got with the VFD and its not very helpful 🙁. I'm sure I have some more details someware (I will try to find them later). Also, it looks like the cable i used is now a discontinued line so I can't find a datasheet for it. If I can I will try and measure the spindle current draw or I'll try and measure the wire. Sorry if I can't answer your question now. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@gerokatseros]

@@frankslittleworkshop Thank you for your effort anyway. The site mentions 8 Amps I think but I m not sure this is right. Thanks anyway

[@azzamody]

Frank , have you tried to connect the vevor vfd to control board , o tried but struggle to know which pin for variable speed ?? I had laser connected to control board and then I made toggle switch to change signal coming from CNC Board to vfd , when switch to laser the signal works but when I switch to vfd spindle doesn’t work ( I connected to d0 pin ) can you help

[@simonoakley660]

Thank you for this video it really helped

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Your more than welcome. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@johncampbell6184]

Hi Frank good info thanks, is that a workbee cnc? did you make a video of fitting it to the machine?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Hi John. I built the CNC quite a few years ago now. I think it was before the workbee was made. The frame was from Ooznest but everything else was made from bits and pieces I got from the Internet (it was before you could buy everything as a kit). I didn't do a full installation video of the spindle (it wouldn't have been very interesting 😆). Thanks for watching John 😁👍

[@gerokatseros]

I just received my shielded cable :) . In your connection , does the shield of the cable touch the metalic clamp of the wire where you connect the wire to the spindle? or is it totaly blind from one end and only connected to the ground on the other end? I can't tell in the video because you have put black tape over the cable. Does the spindle still work well with this connection ? :)

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi, from what I can remember it is only connected at the VFD end. There is no physical connection at the other end. Thats the way I have done it, there may be a better way so you may need to do some further research. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@ynnocser]

@@frankslittleworkshop Shielding needs to be connected to ground of FVD AND Pin4 of spindle. Of course Pin4 at spindle needs to be connected inside housing of spindle. Do NOT use spindles that have Pin4 not connected to housing, as you really want your spindle to be grounded. In case of electrical failure your body might be used as ground, and you do not want this. Or firing up your house in case of electrical failure is not to be desired either. In your case connecting shield to ground at FVD is of no use as connection at spindle-connector is missing/Pin4 not being connected. These manuals are life-threadening telling not to use ground. BTW - I use the same cable and it is pretty fiddly to get cable-shield connect to Pin 4 and ensure shield has no contact to anything else :-)

[@FixitFingers]

Phew that's a bit of an upgrade. Looks like the old one dying did you a favour ;)

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks James. I think you are 100% correct 😁. Its such a great upgrade. I can't wait to use it on a few projects. 😁. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@DeanMakes]

Thanks for uploading this video, I've only just found your channel but I've had the same issue with my spindle this week, it looks like I've got the same VFD as you and this video will help greatly, Best Wishes, Dean

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Thanks Dean. I hope the video was of some help. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@InTheWorkshop]

Great work Frank, nice bit of kit 👍 I fitted the noisy option when I built the schools Ooznest 🔊 I like the simple but effective way of opening up the clamp. Take care David 🙂👍

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi David. I didn't realise how noisy my old one was ... until I fitted the new shiny one. I tend to work my Ooznest quite slowly (so I don't stress it), so noise for long periods becomes an issue. But I guess its less of an issue in a noisey school 🤣😂. Thanks for watching David 😁👍

[@warrensoeldner2562]

Great video! Thank you. I've got the next up VFD, same manual. Quick Question in regards to the shielded cable. You connected the braided shielding to the Earth on the VFD - where did you connect the other end of it at the Spindle side? Thanks again.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Warren. From what I can remember the other end is not connected (its been a while since I did it). So its just shielding the length of wire. The instructions were "a little questionable" but so far having it like this i have not had any issues with grounding or electrical noise. If you have any doubts it is worth doing some further research. I hope that is of some help. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@XXXXIndices]

That earth should be connected to the Spindle, the chinese might think it is optional but the earth is there for your own safety. If you had an insulation break down the casing could become live and the connection to ground through whatever bearings etc would not be 100%. If it is earthed it will trip your breaker/RCD, I am sure this would be what the regulations in you part of the world would require.@@frankslittleworkshop

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@XXXXIndices 😁 Very true XXXXIndices. I'm sure they have never applied the recommendations of BS7430. The problem with buying equipment from other markets is that they will just make it and sell it regardless of the consequences. So, yes, I agree with you 100%. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@66666tony]

Hi Frank Thank you for the video, I have the same setup on the pn 0001 0 to 3000 do yo set it to 1 as in the default

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Tony, yes I left it on 1. I have got used to working with the frequency being displayed. Thanks for watching Tony 😁👍

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

How to much time run the spindle continuously?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Siv. The longest I have run this spindle in one session was about 2 and a half hours. It had no trouble running for that long at all. But please be aware I use it very carefully and never have it under a heavy load. I would be quite happy to use it continously for 3 hours or so without it over heating. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁👍🏻

[@bblloobb1000]

Heloo, Mr Frank. Obviously lating 2 years, but now I,m watching this video. Very interesting. What I want to know, how did you change the new clamp, since the old one is smaller. Did it fit good to your Z axis.I,m asking this, because like in your video, i,m changing spindle motor from 500w, to 800w or 1.5 kw, and it needs some modifications.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Bobi. To mount the new bracket I had to make an additional aluminium plate (about 10mm thick). I made 8 holes in it. 4 of them were used to mount the plate to my Z axis (with counter sunk holes) then the other 4 holes were used to mount the spindle bracket. This way I could remove the bracket but leave the plate in place. This works well but i would have a look at getting a 3D printed one, which would be lighter but strong enough 😁. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@bblloobb1000]

Some pics of made changes will be good enough.

[@bungy490]

Hi Frank. I purchased a 1.5kw spindle and vfd. I have just fitted it and it appears to be a little heavy for my z drive. Basically it slowly drops to the spoiler board. Did you have this challenge and if so how did you resolve it please?if not, any suggestions? Great channel keep up the good work as it = my inspiration. Regards Gary

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Gary, with the bracket I brought this wasn't an issue. Yes the spindle is very heavy and is probably the max weight it could take. But it has never slipped. Sorry I can't be any more help ☹. Thanks for watching 😁 👍

[@bungy490]

@@frankslittleworkshop thank you Sir. Keep up the good work

[@nunzioddipillo7363]

Thank you for the video

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Your more than welcome 😁. Thank you for watching it 😁👍

[@nunzioddipillo7363]

I'm new in this hobby can you show me a right connection of a cable to my motor

[@nomdefamille4807]

0:50 , if you had not realised 2 wires to the motor implies a BRUSHED motor, as you could have confirmed by undoing the two screws and removing the end cap. The brushes are not going to have a good service life because they might be carrying up to 10 amps and whichever pratt designed the brush holders for that generic spindle uses about a quarter of the available commutator length and you only get around 2~3 mm of brush wear before the brushes fall out of the deliberately shortened brush guides. With a bit of careful fettling other brush holders can be substituted. That said, if your budget stretches, do hunt for a brushless with an accompanying 3-phase output psu/speed controller, they generally can rev higher whilst still providing better low speed torque at the same max rated power.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

bullshit

[@nomdefamille4807]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl Hi, I am willing to agree that I was wrong and that you are more knowledgeable if I made an error regarding the motor he was replacing. Which section(s) did I fail on? That the brushes are going to wear quickly? That coreless motors generally have 3 wires (or more if the design uses an earth). I can see that a motor casing that also contains the control circuitry only needs two wires to power it (as you would have in say a trim router) but that was not the case shown here with the common 500w cnc router spindle.

[@hollyfoxThe]

Would have been nice if your finger had not been over half the wiring instructions. I presume it is 1-U, 2-V and 3-W. I need to replace a spindle with with a different model. Wanting to make sure of the wiring.

[@jakobmosburger2737]

Good Video. Thanks. I bought the same solution and I have the following problem: If I Switch on the spindle on the Vfd, the mouse on my PC doesn't work. Do you have any idea what the problem could be?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Jakob. The first question would be "is it a wireless mouse" ?. If it is then try a wired USB mouse to see if the problem is still there !. If the issue is only with the wireless mouse then I suggest it is an interference issue. Are you using a shielded cable for your spindle ? (You will need a decent shielded cable). The only other issue i could think of is grounding ! There may be a grounding issue that is somehow feeding back to your PC or USB port (and killing your mouse). So check all of your grounding is OK. I hope that gives you somewhere to start looking. Thanks for watching Jakob 😁👍

[@jakobmosburger2737]

@@frankslittleworkshop Thanks Frank, Its not an USB mouse. The mouse is build in the notebook. (Touch Pad). I use from the VFD the same Cache as you use in the Video. I think this is not the problem. Some colleaugues think that I need a Filter in the primary side of the connection. If you have an additional idea, please let me know Thanks again Jakob

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@jakobmosburger2737 🤔 Ah, OK. Yes a filter would probably be a good solution. I obviously haven't seen this issue with my setup.... however, I have had a simular problem with a laptop when using a 12V to 240V inverter (when using a laptop in a vehicle) and that caused the mouse (touchpad) to become unresponsive and "jitter" across the screen. So it is more than possible that there is an issue with your primary source. Let me know if a filter resolves the issue. Sorry I can't be of more help. Thanks again Jakob 😁👍

[@bungy490]

Great video and very informative. Thank you Sir. So what is it like installed? a) is the weight an issue for the CNC carriage? b) if successful, I would be interested to hear an update please. VMT Bungy

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Gary. After my initial concerns that the weight was going to be an issue, I am glad to say that my old Ooznest OX handles it brilliantly. I did have to make an adaptor plate (out of aluminium) so I could get the new spindle support bracket to fit. However, I think I am on the limit of how much the gantry can reliably hold. As I have previously mentioned I never push my CNC very hard in an attempt to reduce wear and tear. I would rather run a project for longer rather than unnecessary damage occurring (a broken CNC is no good to anyone). I think the additional weight of the 2.2kW unit would have been to much for my machine. Also a liquid cooled unit may also push it over the edge. For me and my CNC this is a great solution and I have no regrets that I purchased it. I hope that helps 😁. Thanks for watching Gary 😁👍

[@bungy490]

@@frankslittleworkshop Hi Frank, thank you for the prompt response. My concerns are: a) reports that the spindle itself is not properly earthed. in your video you connected the earth of VFD to the braid, yet there was not continuity of earth to the spindle. What am I missing?. b) the negative comments on amazon regarding bits coming off and after sales response being poor. I appreciate that others experience could be due to poor setup, but it is still a concern. I don't want to swamp you with questions, but your views on the subject of earth, would be appreciated. Yours Gary

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@bungy490 😁 Hi Gary, sorry for the delay (very busy weekend). Your concerns with the grounding are very well founded. But I will have to say at this point "I am not an expert, my videos are for information and entertainment only, if you have any concerns please consult an appropriate professional ". But just to clarify, I basically followed the instructions as supplied with the spindle regarding the wiring. However, please be cautious as the earthing contact on some of these spindles "dose not have an internal contact"... so is of no use. Personally I grounded the braiding to assist with the potential noise issues that some of these spindles have and it has worked a treat (no electrical noise). I could not possibly advise you any further (for obvious reasons) but from a personal safety aspect "I" will be running an independent grounding point from the mounting bracket as an additional level of protection (because the motor is isolated from the gantry by the nylon running wheels). But what you do is entirely up to you. Sorry I can't advise you any further as it would be irresponsible of me to do so. Please make your own research and stay safe. Sorry for the "disclamer" answer but I'm afraid it is necessary. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment 😁👍

[@bungy490]

@@frankslittleworkshop I fully understand. Thank you again for the video and comments, very much appreciated

[@bungy490]

Hi Frank, 12 months on and its me again. a) are you still using your spindle? b) did you ever wire it to the Duet controller or did you just manage your speeds manually through the VFD please?

[@kyzzone2262]

Brilliant vid thanks Frank👍🏼. I am in the market looking for something similar to cut about 2mm stainless steel sheets for patterns, will this kind of thing work have you done a bit of metal work with it 👍🏼.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Kyzz. Thanks very much. The only metal I have used in the CNC is a little bit of engraving in to brass (which it handled with no problem). I'm sure this would be OK to use with metal but I would probably recommend the slightly larger liquid cooled unit and the best cutting bit you can get. I hope that helps !. Thanks for watching Kyzz 😁👍

[@yettimusafri4410]

thanks for the video! i wanna ask so now I'm on my way build my CNC machine but my air-cooled spindle is getting hot. Do you have any suggestion? because i am clueless

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Yetti. I think all I can suggest is to reduce the cutting speed and cutting depth. I always set mine quite slow so I don't over stress the spindle. I would prefer to wait rather than rush and burn out my spindle. I've had my CNC for a few years now and treating it gently means it continues to work faultlessly for me. I did however have a couple of PC fans mounted with my old spindle at one point to help cooling. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@yettimusafri4410]

@@frankslittleworkshop i got it! thank you 🤩 How much do you usually set the cutting speed?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@yettimusafri4410 It depends on a lot of factors, such as the material your cutting, the bit your using, the size of the bit, the feed rate, the size of the job etc so it is different every time. Just let the spindle cut and not force it way through the job. Hope that helps 😁👍

[@yettimusafri4410]

@@frankslittleworkshop i see, thank you!! you helped me a lot

[@williamreed281]

Great video and info all round. Wondering about the motor programming. Did yo set it for 2 pole motor or 4 poles??

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi William. Lucky for me, because I purchased the spindle and the VFD as a matched pair there was no need to change between 2 and 4 pole. In fact I've just looked through the instructions and couldn't even see it as an option. I can only assume it is a 2 pole motor ??. The only wiring diagrams only show the difference in input Voltage (single or three phase). No mention of No of poles. Sorry I can't be of much help 😔. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@bussergi]

Hey, what is the status regarding the spindle running hot. I had the exact same journey as you with the 500W spindle. And ultimately decided to do a complete overhaul of my CNC, changing from a very suspicious DIY build to a shapeoko XXL. I plan on running the machine for 6-8 hours per day when I am at work. So i am kind of concerned about the heat creep, as i am aware that an air cooled spindle goes a lot hotter than a water cooled spindle. Have you had any issues at all on that regard?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Aleksander. I have only run my spindle for extended periods a couple of times and heat has not been an issue.... However... I am very gentle with my settings (I.e. more passes at a shallow depth) so I never strain the whole machine. I honestly think that if you plan on using it for 6-8 hours a day then a liquid cooled spindle would be much better for your setup. Especially if it is to be left unattended during the day. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching 😁👍.

[@safetyinstructor]

Thanks Frank! This is really useful to me since I got the same VFD and a very similar motor. But I still got one question, what's with the "please connect R and T when using single phase" sticker on the VFD? Connecting both would schort out live and neutral wouldn't it?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi 0482, where it says "connect R and T" it means you should use R and T terminals. NOT connect R and T together. You are correct this would be a dead short. So the R would be for Live and T for Neutral 🤔. I hope that is clear. Thanks 0482, stay safe 😁👍

[@ianmurray3820]

When you read the instructions for the ground pin - did it not say ground - or not connected..?? I think while you had the meter out you might as well have checked that spare pin for continuity to the spindle body and maybe have been able to connect the earth… as the thing doesn’t look to be double insulated - if it short circuits it could light you up..!!! I’ not overly keen on electric shocks!!😁😂💪🏻

[@HairyTheCandyMan]

"...and it's... a book with words..." -some guy on KZbin

[@Gollog99]

I have the same Set and wired it us follows: 1 = U 2 = V 3 = W 4 = GND

[@hollyfoxThe]

Thank you. His thumb was over the instructions and that is what I needed. LOL

[@Hand-i-Craft]

Nice one Frank. The noise difference towards the end was 😳. I’m interested in this as at some point this kind of thing will be on my horizon. Quick question, it’s definitely more ‘substantial’ and heavier than your old one, is the machine able to cope with that extra weight?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Hi Leo 😁. Its now fully fitted to the cnc machine (now I've made an adaptor plate... oh the mess I made). So it's up and running and appears to be able to handle the extra load. But I think I'm on the limits and I'm sure things will wear out a bit quicker. But if I look after it properly it should last. Thanks for watching Leo 😁👍

[@kenpegg]

Any updates on this project?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Hi Ken. Its all up and running without any issues 😁. Hopefully I will be using it soon on another project so I'll try and squeeze in some update info in the video. Thanks Ken 😁👍

[@kenpegg]

@@frankslittleworkshop Thanks, I look forward to a suitable project.

[@fredmercury1314]

Still happy with it?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Yep, still loving it. It has been faultless and still performs really well. I would still recommend it 😁. Thanks for watching Fred 😁👍

[@fredmercury1314]

@@frankslittleworkshopThanks for the reply. I'm considering an upgrade from my 500W and there's so many of these (cloned) motors out there it's impossible to tell whether you're getting good deal.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

🤔I think your right Fred. You don't really know what you are getting. I was lucky with mine and it turned out OK. But most company's will offer refunds or replacments as they rely quite heavily on good reviews. So you can buy with some confidence. Good luck Fred and thanks again for watching 😁👍

[@SujMenon]

Frank, too technical for me. So did you cut the red wire or the blue one? (Kaboom) 💥. Jokes apart, that new spindle is so quite. Guess it's the dc motor helping in that.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

🤣😂 Whichever one i cut it must have been the right one.... because the workshop is still in one piece 🤣😂🤣. Its not that technical, I'm sure you would have no trouble doing it 😁. Thanks for watching Suj. 😁👍

[@user-spv96x3x7i.4kc]

thank you!

[@shakes73499]

Thats not Shielded its armored cable.

[@NINEWALKING]

That old one looks like run of the mill China made brushed spindle motor. Not a brushless.

[@markboreland5550]

id connect the earth and also check the earth on the vfd is connected to the body as it is pretty dangerous not grounding it, as its 3 phase it will more than likely kill you if you get a shock from it, seen so many videos wit h conflicting info on this subject

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

nonsense

[@markboreland5550]

​@@JohnSmith-pn2vl yh im talking nonsense, if you stop posting videos ill know why, not cos you cant be bothered but after getting a nice shock cos the chinese manual told you not to connect the ground

[@Life_of_John]

Great video. I'm sending my as yet unused router back, and will be buying a spindle with Vfd. Also want the er 16 collet. Is the 11 smaller or bigger than er 16? Thx. Subscribed. I'll look you up on Instagram too.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

😁 Good move John. The ER11 is 1 to 7mm and the ER 16 is 1 to 10mm i think. So ER11 is smaller. Thanks for watching 😁👍

[@Life_of_John]

@@frankslittleworkshop Yeah, just looked it up. Think I'll hunt for a spindle with er16 and vfd. Thanks again.

[@wh0tube]

Ok 👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

Great video Frank! Can’t believe how quiet that is! What does the spindle weigh, out of interest?

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Hi Peter 😁. I've just removed it and put it on my trusty old kitchen scales and it weighs in at a heafty 2.7kg 🤔. My old 500W unit was a measley 980g. I'm hoping to do a very quick follow up vid soon with it up and running to see how well the Ooznest copes. Thanks for watching Peter 😁👍

[@10MinuteWorkshop]

@@frankslittleworkshop Thanks Frank! Hope you didn’t remove it just to weigh it for me! 😯😂 Be very interested to hear how the Ooznest copes with the extra weight!👍👍

[@frankslittleworkshop]

@@10MinuteWorkshop 😁 Yep, sure did 👍. If you take time to ask a question then I take the time to answer it 😁. I'm hoping to do a quick performance type test to see how the ooznest copes. Cant do it yet as I have a small resin project on the go... resin and sawdust... not a good combo 🤔. Thanks again for watching. (Love the Frankin-shelves by the way) 😁👍

[@levonyeganyan1922]

air cooler has very high noise