10 Flaws Separatist Droid Navy | BEST SPACE NAVY SERIES

[@CommissarDan]

I've always loved how Lucrehulks looked and operated. I like carriers.

[@michaelmooney4024]

While yes you don't need human-sized corridors, you do need ones large enough for your repair crew (probably astromech droids in this case) or the largest component that would need to be replaced in one piece.

[@L0stEngineer]

I don't know... Any A.I. that could be defeated by spinning (admittedly a good trick) shouldn't be considered too threatening.

[@christiandauz3742]

Everyone in Star Wars is dumb Are we sure Trump and the Republicans didn't come from the Star Wars Galaxy? Imperium Navy intimidates CIS to give them their tech and resources in exchange for no longer attacking them After destroying the Republic and Jedi the Imperium turns on the CIS as well as the Criminal Organizations Palpatine's identity and Anakin's relationship to Padme are leaked through the HoloNet Chaos corrupts Star Wars and turns it into another hellhole!

[@kronos661]

@@christiandauz3742 And becouse chaos corrupts SW galaxy IoM is fucked as well. That is NOT scenario we want.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@kronos661 That is why Chaos is so Powerful! -It can subvert its enemies to it's side! -It can turn ordinary weaklings into MONSTERS! -It can CREATE ARMIES OUT OF NOTHING! (Star Wars' HoloNet + Chaos/Warp = Age of Strife!) Imagine if the Malevolence was possessed by DAEMONS!!! Anakin would join Chaos, knowing that Palpatine created and manipulated him!

[@Goosetism]

Christian Dauz what’s wrong with republicans

[@TheIfifi]

"A skeleton crew." Ironic, since B1 battledroids are modelled after a Nemidodian skeleton.

[@A____G]

Neimoidian

[@TheIfifi]

@@A____G You are correct.

[@TheIfifi]

@Verz An old book I had as a kid, it would be in Danish and I haven't got a reference. Should probably be somewhere on Wookiepedia. It was a lucas film book though so definitively part of the EU cannon. Unless they went back on it and changed it, which I doubt.

[@josueramos7220]

Im not calling you a liar, but I see NO resemblance

[@starsilverinfinity]

So basically _seperatist commander dies_ B-1s: I guess we’ll just die then

[@rnukes]

i get the feeling that the droids are going to have a lot of advantages

[@justinvanvolkenburg5298]

The biggest, to me at least, is the deployment system used by the fighters. Being able to grapple to a ships hull and cause damage that was makes them worthy support for a boarding party.

[@rnukes]

@@justinvanvolkenburg5298 true and the tri-fighter is perhaps the best space superiority

[@maclennanld]

If only they thought of venting the atmosphere when being boarded, the prequels would of been much shorter

[@astrobot4017]

@@maclennanld Or making only small corridors for only small maintenance droids to fit in

[@DonaldWWitt]

@Justin Van Volkenburg That's why I took this concept and ran with it for my Droid Quad-fighter, combining the Walker Mode of the Vulture with the armor piercing tines of the Droch-class Boarding Vessel and the Trident-class Assault Ship into a Droid Fighter that can just as easily spear through an enemy as it can shoot them down.

[@JackBundy]

If the separatists were smart they would be OP. Although Palatine and his xenophobia against aliens and droids didn't help. (Also plot armour)

[@TheFivetimesdead]

Palpatine wan`t especially xenophobic actually, just totalitaristic. Damn, his student - Darth Maul wasn`t human either

[@aliastheabnormal]

Palpatine was never xenophobic. That was Plageius idea from the start. He basically told him to be a racist because it would help him gain votes. It's the same thing Mc.Cain did against Obama only that it worked. Also i'm guessing the controls and all that were a security measure due to the possibility of rebellion. In the old republic era there was a huge robot war and ever since then droids have been kept underfoot. Stuff like memory wipes, restraining bolts, and the like were originally meant to prevent another rebellion. And the Lukerhawk's control computer was meant to be an easy access off button for the Trade Federation in the event that their droids rebel.

[@TK-nn8jd]

The fact that you typo'd 'Palpatine' as palatine (an actual historical term from which the modern paladin is derived) is inexplicably hilarious to me.

[@CS-nq9sq]

The Lucrehulk may have been a freighter but it was arguably the strongest naval ship during the Clone Wars

[@Jfk2Mr]

I'd say that Mandator and ISD (while not necessarily clone wars ship, it was designed during war) were stronger than doom donut

[@coreymicallef365]

It was also at least half a dozen times larger than it's closest non-dreadnought counterpart and only available in limited numbers.

[@CS-nq9sq]

@@Jfk2Mr Well, yes the Mandator would outclass it 2 to one but it was reserved for the defense of Kuat and technically did not belong to the republic's fleets. However an ISD, especially a clone wars prototype would be like to taking on 2 and a half venators which it could easily take on about 4-5 in a fight

[@buddermonger2000]

@@coreymicallef365 It costed 5x less than the ISD. Limited numbers is a fucking joke.

[@buddermonger2000]

@@CS-nq9sq And you can bring like 5 Lucrehulks for every ISD.

[@livekiller14]

The cis is by far the coolest faction in all of Star Wars

[@emelgiefro]

My fav

[@casbot71]

The CIS's biggest weakness was overlying on base model droids. They had super droids in their inventory that could take on anything, but rarely used them, [except as end level bosses…] when few hundred of them instead of ten thousand B1's being produced would have made all the difference. Super tactical droids in all command positions, units of special combat droids to take out Jedi, and just a software update of the basic B1. Imagine if they recieved a update similar to Mr Bones… 👿🤖🔪🗡🔫

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

Those poor B1 battledroids - you have to feel bad for them, being so badly mistreated by their creators and commanders that they get an even worse deal than the Clones.

[@Meinobogz14thJSB]

Even if throughout the various series they showed some kind of intelligence and self awareness. God i love those droids

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

@@Meinobogz14thJSB They d finitely deserved better than they got. If the Droids of the Star wars universe rose up and overthrew their organic oppressors, you couldn't really blame them given how they have been treated.

[@christiandauz3742]

Chaos corruption would turn those useless Droids and pathetic Cloned into horrific Monsters! The Imperium, Eldar and Necrons would suffer strokes and eplilepsies!

[@thoughtfulinsanity3050]

I just found it it interesting that their attitude toward being slaughtered is usually something along the lines of, "ah bummer".

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

@@thoughtfulinsanity3050 Or a depressed sounding 'Rodger, Rodger' when they know they are being sent to their own destruction.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

The biggest weakness of the CIS has to be poor leadership that further compounds a lack of original thought or tactical awareness in the Droid forces themselves. The Droids are predictable and mostly lack the ability to react to changing circumstances, and their leaders are either more droids with the same flaws, or mercenaries who will be a mixed bag in terms of command competency (some more experienced and tactically and strategically savvy, some less so), but will all share the attribute that, as mercenaries, their motivation is profit. They lack any kind of true commitment to the Separatist cause beyond their bank balance. When their own lives are on the line, they will quickly decide that discretion is the better part of valour, and could easily be convinced to turn on the Separatists should they receive a better offer from someone else. In a sense, the CIS is a strange case - the Droids themselves are essentially fearless and don't need to worry about unit level morale at all, but the mercenary leaders are as untrustworthy and fly by night as mercenaries pretty much always are, and lack anything approaching a true will to fight should their own lives be imperilled for the most part, leaving the CIS with a critical weakness with regard to combat morale in the most damaging point in the command chain - the top.

[@rnukes]

that lack of leadership is only true of the mass produced droids. The T-series tactical droid were compantent with the Super tactical droid being on par with all but the best

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

@@rnukes The bulk of the strength of the CIS was the mass produced Droids, and there can't always be a tactical Droid to hand to make every squad level battlefield decision that a decent NCO could make in an army that had NCOs, or for that matter ship captain level decision for the very large number of CIS ships without their own Tactical Droids. Sooner or later, it would come down to a call made by an individual squad or ship level leader, and the Droids in that role were woefully inadequate to the task Also, if the Tactical Droids were so proficient, why weren't they in overall charge of critical operations? Basically any operation of real importance was under the command of an organic leader. Either that means that the Tactical Droids weren't up to the task, or the Separatist Parliament doubted the prudence of leaving Tactical Droids in command of major forces, since they suspected that they might turn on their creators. Either way, the utility of Tactical Droids as command assets is clearly severely limited.

[@rnukes]

@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 true the bulk of the driod army was disposable but that was the point a driod is cheaper to make than any other unit thier replacement is in minutes not years. also the reason they were not in charge is they would have won and that go's against the emperor plan

[@bradmorales4002]

The separatist leaders were cheapskates.

[@christiandauz3742]

The CIS are less of a roadblock fod the Imperium Navy than the Republic No Merc is going to join the CIS once they learn the brutality of the Imperium! Imperium offers life-extension technology to mercs! Mercs defect along with their Droid Armies! Honestly, don't need the Navy. Imperium Assassins would just kill the CIS leaders! Callidus Assassins will also take their identities!

[@Jfk2Mr]

5:00 because besides droids, CIS fleet was made of organics and was cheaper and faster to just install life support system on droid only ship and not toy with AI in already existing ships. Also Recusants were near that ideal, as many of them were just AI controlled, however AI had many "quirks" to say at least

[@buddermonger2000]

"Conversations can't beat a purpose built machine like a Venator" tell that to the Lucrehulk

[@AsprinceRemix]

I need to be honest here for a moment. I don't give two shits about the damn content this channel produces. I just come to listen Allen's soothing voice.

[@L0stEngineer]

i understand. It is the definition of sultry. /s

[@jacklong1844]

as a kid, i've always been fascinated by the lucrehulk

[@LoneWolf20213]

let's make a few things clear, the flaws are mainly due to the fact that the Sith Lord Palpatine had made the separatist to fail in the end and also help them back

[@Meinobogz14thJSB]

You're a smart one

[@LoneWolf20213]

Michele Castellotti I just pay attention The CIS wasn’t a bad army it was just that they were given bad leadership from Palpatine in order for him to create the empire

[@Meinobogz14thJSB]

Things that not everyone gets (surprisingly)

[@christiandauz3742]

The Imperium would leak Palpatine's true identity onto the HoloNet as well as Anakin x Padme and Baby-stealing Jedi! With Palpatine out of political power and friends he is done Imperium ships then blow up Geonosis and Coruscant!

[@Meinobogz14thJSB]

@@christiandauz3742 nah, they wouldn't have the time

[@piratenflipper]

that music is soothing and at the same time terrifying

[@TheMhalpern]

Well if you do the UNSC Navy, you have to include both war-era and post war, there are some interesting advantages the UNSC had even during the war, such as the Cole Protocol and the standardized frigate template- when the main thing that decides how much pain you deliver your enemy is how many MAC rounds you fire off, maximizing the number of mobile MAC guns available, while minimizing the cost, is a good way to go..

[@WolfeSaber]

The deck guns in the movie were for close broardside attacks and they were only on few ships.

[@girlgarde]

On the scale of 1 to 5 with 5 being the best, I'd rate them as 4. Besides the fact that the battle droids had intelligence issues, the Separatist navy was handicapped by the fact that the CIS didn't have as much industrial infrastructure as the Republic which meant that the Republic could outlast them and eventually overwhelm them with sheer firepower. Despite these two big factors, the Separatist Navy had the early edge in sheer numbers and experience as they originally fought for big corporations who used the previously separate forces to fight against pirates or overrun weak worlds like Naboo.

[@SgtRackhamm]

Awesome addition to the series. Makes me wonder which droids were better, the ones in the trade federation or the Cylons in Battlestar Galactica

[@alexanerose4820]

As for the droids being the way they are: I propose the theory that since sentient AI came rather early in SW and with it a humanoid form it makes sense that they would give the droids the "manned positions" that were already there for the humans. It worked, became cheaper to do so, and as such it continued. Don't fix what ain't broke am I right? Not only that, in case of an EMP wiping out your entire droid crew, the organics on board can still assume direct control of the ship (to some extent) whcihc in combat is useful compared to Allans more efficient but more vulnerable design That's the good thing about SW ships. They may not be "efficient" but they don't give their enemies efficient ways to beat them.

[@WHKMart88]

Despite all their flaws, the Separatist have the most varied types of ships in their navy compared to most other factions in Star Wars (command ships, destroyers, carriers, frigates, corvettes, support ships, ect.). Here's hoping that's helps bring their advantages up by being a far more flexible type of navy.

[@JaelaOrdo]

When you really think about it, the separatists weren’t really the bad guys (except for the whole manipulated by Sith part, but they were manipulating the republic too)

[@SudoKnightlyNonsense]

There actually was an all AI ship in the CIS roster, but it had a severe behavioral issue (over-aggression) that made it difficult to control. In fact, Republic forces could easily bait these ships into ramming CIS ships: you can see an instance of this in the Battle of Coruscant.

[@GT-he4jt]

Not all turbolasers use turbolasers shells.

[@nutcrackit7396]

honestly with the way you described it I agree with the corporations on this. Why should they pay taxes when those tax funds are not being put into their sector of the galaxy? We pay taxes to gain the benefits of society that the government provides. Without that there is no incentive to pay them.

[@GALAXIE67]

Great video 👍☯️👍

[@enterprise-h312]

Lest I forget, could you compare the Starfleet Hazard Team and Delta Squad in a future "Best" series? (Would those classify as Special Forces?)

[@flyingninjafish1558]

Couple things I, and some other people maybe, feel the need to point out just so you’ve gotten all the facts right here; droid brains weren’t used in all the ships because droid brains weren’t all that good, as seen in the Recusant class light destroyer which had a droid brain to control most of the ship’s functions and had a habit of being unable to keep track of things during a larger battle causing it to crash. And those ‘fixed turblaser shell guns’ you mentioned were actually proton torpedo launchers not turbo lasers.

[@lucofparis4819]

Ouch, three big mistakes: • Broadside cannons aren't turbolasers, but proton coilgun cannons, firing solid proton shells. • these ships were built for organic crews then bought and sold to the CIS. Hence why they're not specifically designed for droid crews. It was cheaper to quickly adapt droids rather than commission special designs. • Modern rockets use solid rocket fuel, on their launching boosters.

[@xianderthest8014]

I love the CIS Navy.

[@quannd]

Try 4 or 5 please include the Tau'ri from stargate, and the colonials from battlestar Galactica, in this fleet comparison.

[@ProjectUnsoundDineen]

cant wait for the unsc/covenant

[@kre8or465]

Ahh, I would pay money to see a single astartes cruiser take on 5 separatists frigits only to take them out with a single salvo of boarding torpedoes. Battle droids trying to cope with space marines would be comedy gold.

[@dawfydd]

You'd think the CIS would dev some medium sized ships with massive weapons and have it only crew-able by droids. They could've made a ship half the size of a dreadnaught and had even more firepower.

[@dawfydd]

and imagine a cylon like brain that recovered vulture droid AI and learnt from the battles, they could mount it inside the massive captial ships, or a cloaked brain ship, which if used for only this purpose could stealth easily, it'd be great for following waves to have data that they'd already got first hand from the battle.

[@SamuelJamesNary]

The CIS on a scale of 1 to 5, 5 being the best... 2, at best. Such an automated fighting force that relies on automatons to battle is not going to do well in the long run. Not only would a computer AI ultimately become predictable that can be beaten, it also carries the major weakness of being shut down completely and not even being able to use its strength of numbers to its full advantage. This is seen heavily in "The Phantom Menace" with the Battle of Naboo. The most critical part of the battle was the attack on the droid control ship over Naboo, as it would shut down the droids and leave the Trade Federation's leaders without protection with which to do anything. And while the CIS would take steps to avoid this in the Clone Wars, there was still a master control switch that could turn droids on and off on every battlefront. Now, thankfully for the Droid Army this wasn't exploited until the end of the Clone Wars... But then, it should be noted that no one on the Republic ever seemed to ask the question on "is there an off switch?" And admittedly it was a viable question, given that Anakin/Vader shuts down all the droids from Mustafar in "Revenge of the Sith." Not to mention that the CIS military would be heavily vulnerable to electro-magnetic forces that could either slow their processing power or shut it down entirely... and in Star Wars where there is so much in the way of technological advancement... (and the fact that the Clone Wars TV series saw this vulnerability being exploited repeatedly) one would have to wonder how the CIS never figured out a way to shield their droids from this weakness or truly why they never bothered to... For if the brain isn't to advanced to turn... it wouldn't be a threat if protected against weapons that could short circuit the entire machine. Now... the CIS did have some organic troops, but never enough to really allow them to do well against any military force that stood against them... As in the Clone Wars, while the Republic had more than just Jedi and Clone Troopers they would have a fairly large number of dedicated troops and local militias. The Droids got some of this sort of support... but to a much lower scale, and without the droids of the CIS, what organics the CIS had wouldn't have the numbers for major combat. In this, while the Empire could theoretically rule the galaxy... the CIS really didn't. It could scare people, but its numbers and "mind" was too weak to do more than scare the galaxy... (though that was all part of the Sith's Grand Plan).

[@christiandauz3742]

The Imperium just has to bankrupt the CIS to win Or kill their leaders Or incite infighting amongst the greedy CEOs

[@SamuelJamesNary]

@@christiandauz3742 - Perhaps, though any sort of warfare can prove financially costly and could bankrupt a country. Britain was bankrupt by the end of WW2 and America wasn't too far behind in that regard. Which would mean any sort of battle would be costly in either manpower or economical cost... And since much of the CIS's executive branch is dominated by corporate interests, those money issues would be a problem for them... But my primary criticism of the CIS remains that proverbial "off" switch. Any military that depends on automation THAT much is going to be extremely vulnerable to electronic warfare. And the CIS could never get away from that... Against foes that can't think outside the box and just fight an attritional battle, that sort of thing might work. But any faction that has a character or multiple characters that CAN think outside the box into all the vulnerabilities the CIS might have... the CIS would be doomed against that faction.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@SamuelJamesNary Whether through Attrition or Unconventional Warfare, the Imperium is going to crush BOTH the Republic and the CIS! Assassinating every leader on every side would be like Baby vs Aircraft Carrier! (Including the Force Users) All the Imperium has to do is: -Reveal all of Palpatine's secrets to the Star Wars public -Both the CIS and Republic would cut ties with him -Anakin becomes an outcast and be subjected to experimentation! (Technically not a living being since Palpatine created Anakin through the Force!) (Anakin's secret marriage doesn't help) A single Imperium Cruiser would have killed EVERYONE on Geonosis!

[@casbot71]

#11. The B1 is an annoying git that you want to slap if it's working for you. #12. They really didn't think through their alliance with Sidious. #12 b. They had all their leadership in one room, without any anti Jedi guards. Any more flaws? Continue below. …

[@aidansmith5282]

casbott didn’t they have magna guards

[@math3000]

@@aidansmith5282 cough cough Mission to Mustafar cough cough

[@friedwaldderlebendige8494]

The providence-class ship off the line...

[@nischalghookal2378]

CIS turbolasers ARE automated. The only thing that needs a crew is reloading ammo

[@starsilverinfinity]

Even though they are dumb, I still find the B-1s quirky mannerisms funny

[@Deridus]

Especially in the Rebels episode.

[@skyeblu3178]

Lucrehulk > Venator, change my mind

[@tba113]

Maybe this is a criticism of the Separatists as a faction in general, but they really didn't _need_ to do nearly as much as they did. Their big end-game goal was to leave the Republic, because the Republic was doing a crummy job of everything other than bickering and core-world power games. To that end, they didn't need to screw with the Jedi or invade a single world: all they needed to do was, ultimately, nothing. The Separatists have their own planets, a huge tech and industrial base, and a galactic shipping and transportation network, each with its own homegrown defense force, so it's not like the CIS needed Republic resources to deal with pirates or anything - and besides, the Republic mostly existed only on paper once you got beyond the core worlds anyway. But instead of just trying to, well, _Separate,_ the Separatists built war fleets by bolting cannons on merchant freighters, to support invasion armies made of Commercial Off-The-Shelf rent-a-cops, all led by career bean-counters, technocrats, Company Men, and financiers. No offense to her, but there's a reason that Debra from HR probably shouldn't be made an admiral.

[@oscshe6380]

Do the Martian navy from the expanse

[@brandoncarnes8990]

it always takes several venators to beat a single trade federation battleship

[@christiandauz3742]

Bullshit The CIS lossss or retreats whenever they have equal the number of ships!

[@brandoncarnes8990]

@@christiandauz3742 the cis navy does loss mostly and flee lots but watch any show with the trade federation battleship vs venators like the clone wars and it always takes either multiple venators or a trick to win

[@christiandauz3742]

@@brandoncarnes8990 None of those tricks would work against the Imperium Navy Besides, the Imperium just needs to expose Palpatine's true identity to destroy both the CIS and the Republic (And the Jedi since Palpatine created Anakin using the Force) Or exterminatus Coruscant and the CIS equivalent to spread anarchy throughout the galaxy! Star Wars = minor cartoon villain from a kid's show from the 60s Imperium of Man = Unkillable Monster Knight of Cerberus that would even kill the author of the setting to win!

[@brandoncarnes8990]

@@christiandauz3742 i totally agree the imperial navy or imperium is far stronger than the cis navy. trade federatiion battleships are very rare i just mean by individual ship its stronger than the republic venator.

[@tarrisfairbroke6899]

2/5 Reason: -Their ships are little more than converted freighters, -Lack of capable NCO's, -Use of near exclusively Mercenary Commanders, and -Predictable AI.

[@ShadowWolfTJC]

I do have to wonder how these dim-witted and highly-predictable droids would've fared if they were being escorted by nearby organic beings, such as Jedi, or Clone Troopers, as more-or-less squad leaders that are fighting alongside them at the front lines.

[@koro_kokoro]

The fact separatist tech doesn’t have plug ins for droids is their biggest flaw

[@enterprise-h312]

As for this video, you have done an excellent job trashing the Separatist Droid Navy.

[@michaelkeha]

you know most of your points about why a droid run ship are countered by the fact that well all these interfaces mean that said vessel can also be manned by an organic crew if need be of if their leader is organic also their are hallways connecting the rooms for the basic act of repairs if each section was separated out like you are suggesting and one say several of the engines got damaged are currently need of repairs you would have no way of getting to them.

[@joniniininen1679]

I liked the video but i though those shells were used only in flak guns not in turbolasers.

[@astrobot4017]

10 flaws Rey (get it?)

[@CheemsofRegret]

Rey is a flaw in of herself

[@casbot71]

She has no flaws, and that is her problem…ok, she's a bit naive regarding guys from the First Order.

[@chefboyardee1148]

@@casbot71 really, no flaws?

[@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898]

50 flaws of *M'RAY*

[@casbot71]

@@chefboyardee1148 shes a Mary Sue, can do everything, makes for a boring character. By not having flaws she's a unbelievable character.

[@ZGuy0fSci]

*_All Things are at some base level based or derived from some level of Ideology....._* (such as in beginnings of freedom the idea & concept of "fairness.")

[@keithwalker2712]

still got you xmas tree up lol

[@GunRunner106]

a lot of the points were fixer over time tho - they even had evtl better command droids and such which werent as pron as the yellow heads in earlier times. the whole central ship shut down thing got fixed rly fast. they had a shit ton of variations among their droids. magna guard.... hello? also their AIs werent rly "simple" for all intense and purpose it was often implied that the battledroids had already achieved a certain lvl of sentience... and many of them expressed fear and cowardice etc, but were unable to "run away" and such... i know this is the "flaws" vid, but for the prop video ya should probably rly point out how over time they did addressed most the problems, fixed and or even improved them evtl. ...

[@Joshua-yf5mh]

I would disagree about a Lucrahulk vs a Venator, a converted Lucrahulk was one the strongest ships during the war.

[@wildcat2087]

Dose this mean your goning to do Battlestar Galactica?

[@mollof7893]

Oh yeah yeah

[@casbot71]

Off topic, but did Dooku know Palpatine's final plan regarding order 66 and the decapitation of the CIS? That this war all a ploy to set up a Sith Empire …?

[@gilesbarnes7456]

Yes it is strongly suggested in the novelization of Star Wars episode 3 that Dooku knew everything and also hated non-humans and planned to wipe out the separatists because they were all alien. Also in the same source Dooku speaks with Palpatine about Anakin and his potential and it is implied that Dooku understood that Palpatine was grooming Anakin which would only make sense if he knew Sidious was going to re create the Sith Empire and Sith Order and so Dooku would still be around in a New Sith Order with Anakin and his master. Also in the Clone Wars season 5. The Kaminones I believe first contact Darth Tyannus (Dooku) about 5's chip malfunction which suggests that Dooku was actually the one that first ordered the chips to be created in the first place for the explicit purpose of order 66. That's the evidence but I have no clue. Star Wars is weird and I kind of don't get why Disney doesn't deal with the whole lore contradictions by saying history isn't clean with it's sources why should the history of a fictional universe be clean. The rebels won and may have made the Empire appear worse than it was and vice versa.

[@justinsmith9006]

ten advantage/flaws droideka?

[@Phantom6.6.6]

The cis biggest weakness was palpatine as they could have flooded republic space with soldiers

[@christiandauz3742]

Not really The incompetence and inexperience of the leaders hurt them more that Palpatine's interference And lack of common sense. The Lucrehulk's flaw in Naboo was very stupid Star Wars doesn't have camera technology, making it easier to sneak in and destroy stuff! Imperium Navy boarding pods and teleportation would either kill the pilots/leaders of a CIS Ship or hijack it! In fact, one could argue Palpatine's interferences hurt the Republic more!

[@TrayTerra]

What is that playing in the background?

[@alexanerose4820]

Here's an advantage for droids: Those bastard Dolphins can't use their charm to turn our troops against us. I've lost a lot of good men that way

[@maarvin2092]

Do you guys have a discord server? If no you should it would be great

[@KoalaTContent]

I find it odd that in this video dedicated to the Separatist Navy you fail to mention the actual ship composition? The Separatists have the most varied Navy in Star Wars, with a larger variety of capitol ships, frigates, corvettes, carriers, and destroyers.

[@JacatackLP]

AngryEchidna that’s coming in the advantages video probably

[@KoalaTContent]

@@JacatackLP I guess I forgot the format of these videos as I made that comment

[@JacatackLP]

AngryEchidna it happens 😂

[@christiandauz3742]

Woah, woah, woah! That would be HYPOCRISY! GenerationFilms CRITIZE the Imperium for having Diverse Ships!!!

[@JacatackLP]

Christian Dauz there’s a difference between having a nice selection of ship classes built for specific roles that are all still standardized within their class and the Imperium which when it comes to starships never does the same thing twice

[@WolfeSaber]

Droid hate dolphins "Cough" gunguns "cough"

[@nathancrever5161]

The Separatist Alliance was a Xeno faction.

[@mrpink8951]

where is the 10 advantages of the Imperial Navy video?

[@nikolajsteffensen6578]

i will say. you have the whole "mostly corporations" thing a bit wrong. and the seperatists did not occur until after geonosis. the whole situation is infact a lot more complex and the reason many planets of the seperatists were outer and midrim world was exactly because they saw that naboo could fight back against these exploitative corporations when the republic refused to step in. (that the corporations ended up running the seperatist warfront is of little note to this) and over all the Seperatists were quite ideological. just. a lot of different ideologies who could all agree they did not like the corruption of the republic.

[@evergreates4198]

What’s sup. humanity

[@C144RE]

its relative.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

CVOTE FOR THE CIS: ME: ROGER ROGER!

[@mrmacguff1n]

I have checked This video is not tainted with HERESEY

[@domo1248]

not seeing the vote icon in the top right any more...

[@kosrules1884]

First to vote!!

[@evergreates4198]

kosrules sorry bud you weren’t

[@kosrules1884]

@@evergreates4198 thing is I came and watched the video and there was like 5 years how to look to see the voting section and no one had voted yet.

[@C144RE]

First Comment!!!

[@justinvanvolkenburg5298]

WAY BETTER. Keep the political BS and repetitive scenes to a minimum. This is an awesome video.

[@christiandauz3742]

WW1 Humanity would easily destroy TRILLIONS of Droids! The CIS Navy is the definition of Toy Soldiers! The Imperium just needs to blow up the CIS equivalent of Coruscant or Kuat!

[@dwwest8168]

Like the videos, hate the stupid sound effect when switching from 1,2,3, etc.

[@tommiegunn2043]

sounding like Trumps Space Force .... trade zone in our solar system

[@yagdtigercommander]

Well I rate them about a 3 out 5. The separatists By far weren't the worst faction but had many flaws as pointed out in the video. However the whole war was proxy war a conspiracy to over through the republic to make the Galactic Empire reality. But Palpatine was no fool in politics he knew he had to create a crisis to gain emergency powers to over throw the senate and assume full control ending the republic and turning it into the empire. So the Separatists had to lose but still have some strong forces to make the war and the republics victory believable in the public's opinion while use that victory to leverage power and brain wash the people into believing that the galaxy needs a strong government with Iron fist to keep order and other factions in line. As the Empire would get tough on crime and piracy especially giving citizens a reason to comply. But The Separatists and Battle Droids were just pawns and allies of palpatine to manipulate factions to have conflict with one and other. While in the background Palpatine is sitting his chair saying "Everything has Transpired as I have For seen". Then doing his evil laugh in secrecy while the clones and droids were mere fodder to the endless slaughter with both factions never really going to win as the clones were absorb into the empire before normal humans took over the storm trooper corp. So yes they didn't do well in the sense of going to win the war. But they played there part well in the sense of fooling people that this war was real and just but just fabricated lie to so the empire could rise. So as fellow actor in this theatrical show CIS did very well in its part to con the republic to becoming a dictatorship. But as war winning force no not by long shot. So consider that Generation films and Star Wars fans a like. The Clone Wars was all lies and deceit to brainwash people into accepting a totalitarian inter galactic government.

[@nsytr06]

This channel must not be star trek fans.

[@barrybend7189]

Best mech based armies( 40K is not allowed this time) in Sci-fi. My nomination is the Earth Sphere Federation from Gundam 00.

[@DWatchRazgriz]

...Haven't we been over this? 00 is weak.

[@barrybend7189]

@@DWatchRazgriz no 00 is the most competent. Plus other than a few days operating time ( out of combat for GN Tau based MS) they are superior to most MS units in Gundam( don't sight Build series or games as those are balanced and don't align with what's shown in the main shows).

[@lukevankleef4245]

I suppose that's fair, 40K mechs are ridiculously powerful. However, 40K mechs, at least the Imperial ones, are very slow, which I think a lot of armies from fiction could take advantage of. Although I hesitate to call the Imperium a ''mech based army'' as they are very scarce and the Mechanicus is very stingy with leasing them to fighting forces.

[@JacatackLP]

Barry Bend I think 40k should be allowed

[@DWatchRazgriz]

@@barrybend7189 Er, no...They really aren't. If you want to talk most competent, then we're talking Zeon Remnant, who still manage to beat more advanced MS in OYW mechs.

[@benjaminbraghtley515]

there are to many WH40K fans are to many. nuestro voto cuanta para basura XD.

[@hentachi-tzu1479]

The covernant

[@killfrenzy303]

11 they used foul xenos and abominable intelligence.

[@bradmorales4002]

Another flaw is that they were cheapskates.

[@nobleman9393]

Hoomans

[@Mrtitan40k]

All I see is teck heresy

[@ronaldmc3991]

6th

[@Revan-vk2ld]

Leadership is a very bad problem with the cis but glorious leaders like admiral trench was one of few who could handle micromanaging everything something they admiral yulararn could notice he is even capable of surving the vacuum of space and while he was allegedly said by the republic to be killed by There poster boy chosen one we here at the confederacy can say that this is but propaganda and he has once again survived the near impossible and is currently under treatment for lightsaber in the gut and another exploding flagship sadly he is more droid then spider now but he is still alive

[@christiandauz3742]

Imperium Assassin would take care of him Or the news that Palpatine was Sidious and the person behind the Clone Wars and Naboo Crisis would make him desert the CIS! Imperium Life-extension tech (+300 years) would be more than enough to bribe him to serve the Imperium!

[@Revan-vk2ld]

Christian Dauz He would never serve the imperium he is loyal to the Confederacy! Not to mention you xenophobic bastards would shoot him in the face you saw him for simply existing let’s see how good your soldiers are once the Confederacy’s glorious army marches over in a symphony of metal slamming on the ground All hail the CIS FOR INDEPENDENCE!

[@christiandauz3742]

@@Revan-vk2ld Yularen would not serve the Republic unless Palpatine is ousted Also, Trench would not serve the CIS until they cut ties with Palpatine Dooku would also cut ties with Palpatine should the latter's secrets be revealed! Imperium Assassins/Spies/Inquisition is THAT good! They will find ANY irregularities in your financial income! Anakin's reputation would also be ruined! -Jedi would cast him out once they learn of his secret marriage! -Nobody would trust him once EVERYONE learns that Palpatine CREATED HIM!

[@patricklioneljonson2747]

BY THE GOD EMPEROR.... do your fellow man a favour and vote #1 for this heresy.

[@peskymacaw9033]

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