12,000m down: Scott Ransom VS Yeti SB150 in the Alps | Mountain Bike Rider

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Really like this style of review. Gives a good idea how the bike really feels when you are riding it.

[@gameholic2]

It's a bit of a shame you guys didn't put more effort into actually setting the bikes up properly, it's kind of miss leading when you give yeti a perfect 10 and the scott an 8 simply cause stock YETI setup worked for you out of the box with some clicker adjustments and the scott didn't... i'm no suspension guru but i can easily make a fork more progressive with some volume spacers and air pressure adjustments... the smart move would've been to not do a direct comparison if you couldn't test the bikes fully.

[@MBRmagazine]

gameholic2 the problem wasn’t with the air volume in the Scott fork, it was with the damping

[@brianrowbotham4010]

@@MBRmagazine with a grip2 damper do you think they'd be a bit closer?

[@ibis315]

@@brianrowbotham4010 All Fox dampers work for heavier riders but not for light weight rider like these guys. They mention balance between the front and back. That's the problem with Ransom. The rear shock doesn't work too well with the front setup

[@MBRmagazine]

Brian Rowbotham yes, definitely

[@macuse2008]

I think the name comes into play here as well. I ride a Scott. Or I ride a Yeti. Which one causes goosebumps? I can tell you it's not the Scott

[@daverotors]

Thanks lot! I'm currently in the market for a new bike and those two are in the top of my list.. so good to see them compared directly! And you bring up a few points that I missed in other reviews

[@Twentykixx]

I think with the cans in the back being so different, there’s room for improvement on both builds for linear progression over the stroke per rider comfort and terrain. Not to mention that when I rode my Scott initially, after a short time the Twin-Lock becomes more natural and compelling as a positive and not a negative, as reviewed here as subtlety negative. The reach condemnation seems more like mates agreeing with each other based on similar riding characteristics, instead of devils advocate. However, love the context and the deeper dive into a full comparison of the best 170 travel bikes in the stream on a brilliant enduro terrain test ride. The Scott will outperform the Yeti at the bike park however, and match the Yeti’s capabilities over the Enduro sections, so truly the Scott is the best of both worlds. Cheers!

[@MrFeedo69]

Zgadzam się.

[@joelbartkiewicz5234]

@@MrFeedo69 ale co nie co hyba yeti lepszy

[@timmygriffin]

Such a great review. Learned a lot about the weight vs. tyres and reinforcing what many have said with the twin lock and the practical downside of it.

[@nathan4432]

double down rear, downhill front does not compute. Other way around.

[@AdrianSchwizgebel]

Also the "Exo" branding is visible on the front...

[@Cj-nd3nv]

Do love your MTB reviews, two guys talking intelligently, objectively, subjectively and without bias. Refreshing break from the dude talk splattered with superlatives - see ? for example...

[@armentekerian5545]

Great comparative review...I demoed the 150...it’s a shockingly good climber in addition to being a superior descender.

[@tehllama42]

Make the Davos event the MBR capstone each year - have each staff member pick out their favorite bike available as a press fleet option or that they have access to, pair off, and make a ton of video. I'd watch a five-video installment of that, with each pair of bikes and the overall commentary from the entire staff.

[@MBRmagazine]

tehllama42 we’re down for that! 😄

[@mannyfnsc29]

An orange Yeti just doesn't seem right.

[@kyle618]

agreed. looks wrong.

[@floimschnee4275]

Indeed, looks so much better in turquoise!

[@wowftw120]

7.2k on a yeti doesn't seem right

[@verdonrocksphotography3510]

Manny Fonseca just get it and you will see the shine

[@tthemonkey8420]

gotta see it close, it's beautiful

[@poloyx1]

Best video so far this compassion is nice. Pls can you compare some super enduro bikes like commencal clash, canyon sender and propain spindrift but in lowest price. Thx

[@Outdawrzman]

Best video comparison !

[@patrick4406]

Why did you put a DH casing at the front, while only a DD casing at the rear? Wouldn’t it make sense to do it exactly the other way around, since the rear wheel gets bashed way harder?

[@TheGazavman]

Control must be at the front

[@madpilot01]

hi guys. awesome video. I live not far from Davos. can you please tell me the route in 6:14 where that ridge is? and where did you start to get to that trail? kind regards madpilot

[@MBRmagazine]

Thanks! Can’t remember exactly to be honest. Drop into the bike shop on Davos and ask the guys there- they organise the race.

[@daveandmerlin]

Brilliant video ,Brilliant trails . Be nice if you could test a high end carbon bike with say a Orange Stage 6 or the Rocket Max with the new longshot geo . Be nice interesting to see the results . Good work chaps

[@verdonrocksphotography3510]

Got my SB150 2 weeks ago and after every single ride I am speechless, great comparison, thnx

[@morF1ni]

Congrats. Which size did you get? What’s your height? I am 5’11. Hesitating between M or L. There’s some downsize trend around some reviews. Would please advise?

[@verdonrocksphotography3510]

@@morF1ni I am a bit shorter than 5-11, it felt bit cramped, put longer stem and feels good, next time probably will go L, my XC hardtail is large, depends how skill rider you are but I would recommend L for sure

[@tinoschneider6350]

I would love to see a third bike in form of the YT Capra 29 in this comparison. Anyway, I really enjoyed this in depth review!

[@bojemison8991]

Lol not even looking at buying a new bike for a while but I love watching the clips of the event🤣🤣

[@youngstadan4999]

Ive got a 23 ransom twinloc at the rear, its an amazing bike love the twin loc wouldnt want it on the fork though

[@Kciredg]

Thank you so much for making this video. I have the yeti SB 150 with the same rear shock I was wondering if you can share exactly what you did with the rear shock to make you feel better. Thanks again for the video

[@MBRmagazine]

If we remember correctly, we had been testing the bike for some time, then we had to give it back for an event over a weekend, then got it back to take to Switzerland, and although everything seemed exactly the same, someone had added lots of low and high speed compression damping. So we reduced the H&L compression damping.

[@Kciredg]

Thank you I really appreciate it. Stay safe 👍

[@jd6197]

Kinda a late comment :), but did you tried to disconnect twin lock cable for the fork?

[@brianrowbotham4010]

I demoed both bikes recently and I definitely noticed the flex of the Yeti. It wasn't terrible but very different from the bikes I was riding this year. At 6'-1" and 190 lbs I think I noticed the flex more than a smaller rider would though.

[@b-manz]

There was something wrong with the bike you rode? I have demoed it and no way it’s got any level of flex worth mentioning.

[@rogerbuck9136]

I test rode both of these bikes . I preferred the Scott , and so did everyone else ? Just like buying a new car , it just depends on who is driving/riding it .

[@David-np4vo]

YETI pure dream machine

[@thecount1001]

ha, wait till you guys try the RM Slayer wagon wheeler. you'll be blown away.

[@mauricexavier9487]

Is there anyone, anywhere who did a long term test and review for a Scott?

[@stiingya]

You guys don't look so young that you never used a front derailleur? And if you were in to "all mountain" when that was a thing you should have spent time with a dropper and a 2x shifter. The twin lock isn't any more difficult than that. I can see a newb having problems, but seasoned test riders have no excuse for not being able to try out something new and give it an honest review.

[@schuletrip]

6 or 7 grand for a bike is ridiculous and quite frankly outrageous. I can go 3 to 4 grand but almost double that is daft. You can get a decent car for the price of these bikes!

[@chameleonpogono]

Yah, it is a lot of money. Save a bunch with the drivetrain. Just go with Gx Eagle or even Nx Eagle. They work just fine and you can save a lot of money.

[@NorthernSkiAndCycle]

@@chameleonpogono This. If you ever find a bike you like, just buy the frame and build it up with a good fork/tires and brakes. Santa Cruz Nomad XX1 (uses xo1 cassette) = 12499 + tax (13%) CAD ($14,125 total)bi I built a Nomad carbon frame with: FULL XX1 rear end Ewings titanium crankset Hope V4 brakes, bottom bracket, seat clamp and stem Cane Creek 110 headset Cane Creek Helm 170mm fork Spank Oozy wheels with I9 MTN hubs Ergon grips and saddle Magura Vyron wireless dropper post SIXc carbon handlebars Onza tires for 9,200CAD. I can lower the price even more by changing the expensive dropper ($450), 40 headset, or even save over $600 by going to a carbon Race Face SIXc or SL cranket. This isn't ALWAYS the case though.

[@stiingya]

not going to argue they are crazy expensive, but what decent car costs this much? Decent motorcycles even hard, dirt bike yes?

[@flow2tech]

Decent isn't the best tho

[@danytheunicorn95]

the cheapest ransom i have found is just under 3000 euro and I really think it is worth it. you can always buy a good xc hardtail for 500 bucks, even much less but you would never race enduro or ride crazy rocky steep hills with big drop offs with that bike, i mean, you can, but say goodbye to your knees, wrists and you are probably going to crash more, go slower, and have way less fun and more stress. so in this market, you get what you pay for. these bikes are aimed at enduro racers or freeride enthusiasts. not your average bike rider. have a nice day:)

[@ApriliaTuono31]

I am thinking to buy a 2019 in los Anglees area..I am very trumpeted but I am wondering about the long-term reliability of this bike vs a Pevit switchblade or Yeti SB 150...Can you help me with this question? I'm too worried about leader support as well rear-shock service

[@yetimasher1114]

do you guys have a similar video for the sb165?

[@didzy9349]

what size is the rear tyre on the yeti sb150? is it a widetrail dhr2? heard the 2.4 WT wont fit and rubs a lot?

[@TheGazavman]

Ransom is awesome !

[@morF1ni]

Congrats. One favor. I am 5’11. Hesitating between M or L sb150. There’s some downsize trend around some reviews. Would please advise?

[@MBRmagazine]

We'd go large every time.

[@morF1ni]

Thanks a lot! Love your show dudes

[@Lyds_rose988]

How the yetis switch infinity handle UK winters nowadays??

[@MBRmagazine]

Only time will tell. We’ve heard of Kashima wearing out in the UK but the new system is better protected so hopefully it should be fine.

[@JamesRobertMTB]

The Scott seems so dialled !!!!

[@zacellfitness2967]

Great video - miss my yeti sb6c...sb150 looks like an insane machine! Question for you guys...whats your audio setup in this video?! Great quality sound! Thanks guys - keep it up

[@MBRmagazine]

Zac Ell Fitness not sure about the audio. Will have to ask our video team 👍

[@colinsandlin8575]

Anyone know what shoes the guy on our right is wearing?

[@tomboneschanker5672]

Great quality and price

[@johnnyfont3818]

I like the orange yeti and I want it

[@donnpassMTB]

i just got sb150 by reading reviews and your channel still waiting for it should come on the end of Feb do you think it will be just really good just to ride in peak or lake districts with it ? or I should go with sb130? I don't care about climbing descending I love most. Thanks

[@MBRmagazine]

SB150 all the way! Enjoy ;-)

[@thorwoutwarntjes8702]

Why would you put a heavier tire in the front and a lighter in the back?

[@adamfavsvidc]

Beacause maxxis dh is 2.4 better traction for front. And dd casing in back is 2.3 for speed

[@thorwoutwarntjes8702]

@@adamfavsvidc yea i know but i would choose a exo in the front and dh or dd in rear for puncture resistans

[@adamfavsvidc]

@@thorwoutwarntjes8702 fair enough. but 2.4 helps with traction in front where its needed. Where we ride in wales we use the same setup as exo tyres just dont stand up to the rough stuff here.

[@pintsizer]

Pivot Firebird 29?

[@MBRmagazine]

We tried to get one for the test but it was unavailable unfortunately.

[@scottcarlon6318]

Attempting to compare two bikes on a long race without optimizing each bike for the riders beforehand seems an extremely dysfunctional oversight .

[@MBRmagazine]

The bikes were tested extensively outside of the race itself, and settings optimised for the bike test editor as he was actually conducting the test and rating the bikes.

[@the_vids]

Nice review. But i'm not sure if you concluded which bike is faster? Was the yeti faster each time you switched (infinity) to it? Or was it just a nicer bike?

[@MBRmagazine]

You're right, we didn't. As we didn't do any back-to-back timed runs it's difficult to say emphatically, but anecdotally we'd say the the Yeti felt faster over long 6 minute plus stages because it was more composed and we used less energy, so we could ride harder. If that makes sense.

[@the_vids]

@@MBRmagazine Thanks, that makes perfect sense to me! I'm asking because what I am really wondering about is if that bike would make me faster in an enduro competition than my current 2018 Nomad (4). The difference to my 2015 Nomad (3) was surprisingly noticeable (on Strava and comp times) and def worth the upgrade. Do you have an educated gut-feeling if that a SB150 should make me even faster? Or would it be close to a dead race? I do know you can not answer that question with any precision at all, but since no-one has tested these bikes head to head, and probably no one will, I have really no idea at all. Maybe you have some?

[@MBRmagazine]

Ah, the million dollar question. Without wanting to disappear down a rabbit-hole of wheel size pros and cons, we tend to find we are faster on 29in wheels. So in this case, we'd probably be faster on the Yeti than the Nomad. Also the sizing is better on the Yeti. But, without testing them back to back on the same track we couldn't say definitively.

[@the_vids]

@@MBRmagazine Thanks for taking the time to answer my question :)

[@MBRmagazine]

Vidar Berentsen Folden you’re welcome

[@cubebiker1]

Well now guys, how did you end up setting up the Yeti SB 150? Remember any LSC HSC and rebound numbers?

[@MBRmagazine]

We'll try and find out for you.

[@TomDaBombadil1]

Trek full stache review plz?

[@MBRmagazine]

R3VjigDaHoBo MB there’s one in the December issue of the magazine and we’ll have it on the website in a few weeks 👍

[@giovanniassenza9091]

hiii, can you write the name of this place please!?..thanksss

[@MBRmagazine]

Davos

[@ApexHerbivore]

Saying you don't need DH strength gear in the UK sounds a bit naive mate.

[@kingpet46]

you could get a new 600cc sportsbike for that kind of price. damn!!

[@dsmdallas2466]

I had to pause the video just to tell them apart on the side by side shots. LMAO. YETI FTW! Oh and MAXXIS tires!

[@marilakay4902]

Whats the name of the handlebar in Ransom?

[@MBRmagazine]

It's the Syncros Hixon SL

[@BB-mz8jc]

I have not watched a single KZbin video to completion in the last 2 weeks because of these ads!!!! The moment these annoying ads come up a click off and move on... Incredibly frustrating!

[@MBRmagazine]

Apologies for the ads, but these videos aren't free to produce. In fact they're really quite expensive, so the only way to cover at least some of the costs is to run ads.

[@chrisorr3919]

Sounds like the fork needs dialing in a bit more on the scott.

[@MBRmagazine]

Nothing you can do with the damping without buying a new damper though.

[@Driftuner]

Oh man...i would have loved the comparison if the Ransom was the Megatower

[@Outdoor_MED]

Scott any day!!!!

[@javier-lz9mm]

Scott is the best

[@zeusdreadbeard8990]

Just get a nukeproof mega for 2 grand and go for a ride and smile.

[@jmlboom3142]

Let's gooooo Yeti sb150 29ers boom!!!!! I'm dream building my yeti sb150 29ers L 2021 model so exited!!! Boom!!!👍💪🙏💰💵🙏💪👍😅🤣🤪🚵‍♂️🚵‍♂️🚵‍♂️🚵‍♂️🚵‍♂️😂

[@morF1ni]

Buddy. How tall are you? I am 5’11 hesitating between M or L. Some reviews suggesting I size down

[@mcvittees]

Great video guys. Alan - no grey hair? Care to share your secret?😉

[@paghal11]

Riding a Yeti melts away the grey.

[@sultanabran1]

scott wins cause the frame didnt crack

[@corpsman247]

Mine cracked though so...

[@Mockle07]

Why does Yeti have such a reputation as a mega expensive “lottery win” brand?! The Yeti was a huge £200 more expensive than the Scott in this test and way, WAY less than an S-Works Enduro. There are loads of top spec enduro bikes in the £6500-8000 range, not just Yeti. I’m not saying they are cheap, but this reputation just seems to be nonsense that gets repeated from review to review.

[@courtney727ray]

Who is the 3rd person at a distance constantly saying yep! Super annoying!

[@TheNik604]

Scott FR Forever !

[@Cybervogi]

Yeti is so hot.

[@sadigov]

The guy on the left has an accent shapeshifter - she switched to American accent then back to British.

[@MBRmagazine]

He's originally from Northern Ireland.

[@turner02]

scott is the better bike

[@gregguensch9442]

JLP Design I realize I’m very late commenting on this thread, but i am curious what makes you share my opinion that the scott is better bike.

[@GRPABT1]

Yeti's new line up is fraught with problems. The 100, 130 and 150, many owners left dissatisfied and Yeti refuse to deal with the issues. The 150 is advertised as clearance for 2.5 tyres and yet it rubs hard with 2.4 tyres, this is unacceptable from a high priced boutique bike. The switch infinity has already been recalled and yet is still causing issues despite the update. These issues highlight why short term reviews are useless. The Scott however; actually adjust the shock correctly by removing bands, swap in a Grip 2 damper and you're laughing all the way to the podium.

[@MBRmagazine]

GRPABT1 so basically exactly what we said about the Scott - a great bike that would be even better with a Grip damper in the fork. We haven’t heard of any issues with the latest Switch Infinity, although there could be. True, short term tests will never highlight long term durability issues.

[@SteveHofsaess]

I have WTB 2.5 Vigilante tires on my SB 150 and no rub,, I am unaware of the recalls from the switch infinity,

[@flow2tech]

@@SteveHofsaess I'm on the 130 with a 2.4 here as well and zero rub for me..

[@marksmith7647]

Evil The Wreckoning?

[@daveandmerlin]

Mark Smith nice bike but not the most modern compared to these 2 bikes

[@lutumrisus7616]

It *_SUCKS_* they're both the same color - I can't tell which is which in most of the riding footage. Waaaaaaah! 😭

[@almartin1087]

got 1, for real.

[@ajmf-hy8qt]

YT CAPRA PRO RACE IS THE BEST 29 ENDURO.

[@floimschnee4275]

I'd indeed be interested how this bike would fare.

[@tylervernon4784]

I didn't like this guy on the left. He kept talking over the guy on the right. Made the video unpleasant. Can't imagine what his wife goes through if he has one.

[@shortchainstays8762]

1:20 yeaaahhh but not in hardtail of the year

[@MBRmagazine]

Simple reason for that: at £500, changing the tyres is 10-20% of the overall cost of the bike. Even at £1,000 it can be over 10%.

[@shortchainstays8762]

Mountain Bike Rider that’s fair

[@benperd]

Dude on the left talks too much. Can see the annoyance from the other guy with his feet.

[@Zeropadd]

😎

[@Macca78]

😂😂😂 over 7 grand for a mountain bike no chance my ducati only cost 800 pound more

[@bikee4]

overpriced hype...

[@kergo12]

Yeah, the Scott is..

[@beny6920]

Kerwin Gomez lol

[@serjturischev9557]

geometron put this two bikes on the knees.

[@TheAEful]

rip ransom -.-

Bikes and bike parts are overpriced. $900 for one fork when you can buy a set of four performance Bilstein shocks for $600. They are raping the consumers.

[@callumyoung7785]

First

[@doddsyist]

Nobody cares about tyres when they spend that much, they change tyres depending on what they want.

[@flythefriendlyskies47]

Bruce Banner I agree...also they’re disposable items that wear out, no bike should be judged on its tyres!

[@MBRmagazine]

Indeed, that's why we didn't let it affect the rating.

[@threesixtwofive]

The guy on the left never stopped talking, had to stop watching.. so painful...

[@gweflj]

Do you think he should just stare at the camera? He's the bike test editor.

[@MBRmagazine]

That’s the whole point! 🤷‍♂️

[@gweflj]

Killer review as usual. Trails look jolly nice too.