I can not believe the disrespect that John Havlicek gets. He averaged 29, 9, and 7 for a season, as well as winning 8 rings and being the all-time leading scorer for arguably the greatest sports franchise of all time.
@ethanrobinson94752 жыл бұрын
tbh ive realized that Austin is a massive casual but its okay
@mmcwilliams78162 жыл бұрын
all right bro chill out with the d riding
@milagomez552 жыл бұрын
Nah
@netswrld2 жыл бұрын
“Greatest sports franchise of all time” nah bro the fuck off the crack
@TuMadreee2 жыл бұрын
@@mmcwilliams7816 justified d riding lmao
@yungdudda2x Жыл бұрын
Austin: Embiid will never win a MVP in his career 2023: Joel Embiid wins MVP
@TakarabakoTm Жыл бұрын
voter's fatigue
@shady3legend2 жыл бұрын
I think Nash deserved at least one of those MVPs he was the captain, he lead the team I believe they even had the best record one year...I see people saying Tmac I liked watching him play but what year was his team at the top for him to win a mvp, scored a lot of points but that's why he won a scoring title
@abhithegreat93 Жыл бұрын
Steve Nash won twice
@bigtimedreams31962 жыл бұрын
Great Video Idea. Love your breakdown. You are a Hall of Famer!
@broaddusmarines2 жыл бұрын
Anthony Davis should’ve even be on the 75th Anniversary Team.
@fazegregsmith232 жыл бұрын
He was
@javionc052 жыл бұрын
@@fazegregsmith23 he prolly meant shouldn't have 👍🏾
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
Yes he should have
@abdielalicea7161 Жыл бұрын
Who’s here when embiid won this year😭
@Viperisgooder Жыл бұрын
The Joel Embiid mvp one aged like milk
@johnanderson97652 жыл бұрын
I figured recentcy bias would play a part. You should have included John Havlicek, Elgin Baylor and Pete Maravich.
@yakul66522 жыл бұрын
John Stockton? Dude averaged 16 points 13-14 assists while shooting over 50% FG with almost 3 steals for 8 straight seasons (also playing 82 games all but 1 year (78)). I know Karl won it twice, but he should've been mentioned.
@broaddusmarines2 жыл бұрын
Okay? Which year should he have won MVP?
@derkprosigma2 жыл бұрын
chris paul better
@benjaminbremer42612 жыл бұрын
incredible #2 option, but he was malones pippen. hell, the dude in his 20 year career was 1st team nba only twice.
@PhoenixAscending2 жыл бұрын
The 16 points is why he never won one. That's my biggest knock on Stockton...he wasn't aggressive enough offensively for a guy who could shoot so well. He even said himself that he regretted not being more aggressive offensively. It especially hurt them in the finals. They didn't have much on offense, and Malone had to do most of the scoring
@yakul66522 жыл бұрын
@@broaddusmarines Name of the video is 12 Greatest Players To NEVER Win NBA MVP, there's no reason to point out a single season, I don't see the point of your question. He leads the NBA for all time assists and steals and those records will NEVER be broken, yet he gets disrespected left and right. What did CP3 and J. Kid do that he didn't? All of those guys are awesome players, I just thought he deserves a mention.
@freshnaproductions2105 Жыл бұрын
4 months later: Um, about Joel Embiid... He's number 1 in MVP voting 😬
@Late2Hoops2 жыл бұрын
I think I was the first to make this video a few months ago. Was only a matter of time before one of the people who inspired me to start creating made it as well.
@tatevancleve18022 жыл бұрын
Wtf is up Isiah Thomas & Joe Dumas tying in mvp voting in both years they won the title. 1st year tying is 17th place in the mvp race & the following year at 13th place? That's super odd & made me think if one was a roll player instead of a 2nd allstar & they still won maybe the one would have gotten alot more votes.
@s4xtt2 жыл бұрын
The great Kobe only ever won one.....unbelievable
@PhoenixAscending2 жыл бұрын
It's almost as shocking that Wade never won one
@mylastaltsrrsly59672 жыл бұрын
kobe was a ball hog
@benjiequezada2 жыл бұрын
What's equally astonishing to me is that Shaq only ever won one, too. Those 3 years that he won championships with LA are some of the most dominant basketball that's ever been played.
@sunyuewave2 жыл бұрын
Stockton McGrady Paul Dwight Howard Pippen The Logo Patrick Ewing Kidd Dwayne Wade Isiah Thomas
@ani26842 жыл бұрын
fax
@jayroq58952 жыл бұрын
Shit Thomas took Bird Jordan And Magic in one playoffs... That's on some Dirk taking out Kobe Durant Lebron shits ! Krazy
@bobbysmoove4796 Жыл бұрын
Kawhi highest mvp voting finish was actually in 2016 when he was 2nd
@TariqKanhal Жыл бұрын
Embiid one didn't age will
@3Js282 жыл бұрын
You mentioned Jerry West but you forgot Elgin Baylor? Ewing, Pippen, McGrady, Miller, Wilkins, When will part 2 uploaded?
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
Same with Allen, miller and pierce
@stujohn65692 жыл бұрын
Kobe and Shaq with 1 mvp each still doesn’t sit well with me.
@snowstorm1863 Жыл бұрын
Putting people on this list that are not only still playing but in prime career. Embiid is front runner and luka just getting started. ✌️
@gaviogaming29492 жыл бұрын
Havlicek and Ewing
@broaddusmarines2 жыл бұрын
Ewing? No. He was never even a top three CENTER in the league any year in the NBA, let alone the best player in the league.
@gaviogaming29492 жыл бұрын
@@broaddusmarines Yeah but if you put AD on the vid, you might as well include Ewing
@paksta2 жыл бұрын
@@broaddusmarines Never a top 3 center? Lol. Thats objectively incorrect. If you dont think Ewing should be on this list, you gotta learn about this dude... - He was in the all-NBA 1st or 2nd team seven times, at a time when they strictly chose positionally. (Versus say, 5 times for Kahwi when there are two spots for forwards, or the same times for Howard who peaked when there were no other dominant centers) - He was in the top 5 MVP voting 6 times. (Vs three times for Kahwi, 5 times for Paul or 4 times for Howard)
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
@@broaddusmarines ur wrong. He was a top 3 center right alongside guys like hakeem and shaq. You can make a argument for Robinson but ewing was way better offensively and can space the floor
@ingram4642 жыл бұрын
Damian Lillard
@finxdf2 жыл бұрын
where tmac tho
@Jigsaw_YT2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Eniggma392 жыл бұрын
Being a chris paul fan is suffering but I’m not backing down.
@ethanrobinson94752 жыл бұрын
W
@tylerbuck93472 жыл бұрын
W
@charlesjohnson5362 жыл бұрын
JERRY WEST .. ELGIN BAYLOR ARE THE TOP 2 .. THEN DWADE .. CP3 .. PATRICK EWING ..
@mrbotmanwoodoodoo97652 жыл бұрын
U should do best individual seasons that didnt won mvp
@cullenkircher6482 Жыл бұрын
DWade was 100% robbed of an mvp award in 2009 and I’ll fight on this hill any day
@jaulz0712 жыл бұрын
Tracy McGrady??
@zwen37632 жыл бұрын
6:46 I didn't know the Kings was top of the league, wow.
@Amari_14 Жыл бұрын
Embiid?
@abhithegreat93 Жыл бұрын
this video aged well for Joel Embid
@Gr33nSush12 жыл бұрын
am i early?
@verbalstormborn Жыл бұрын
Lol on Joel never winning one in his career 😭
@kairavjain22102 жыл бұрын
This is a weird one but I feel Ray Allen should also be on this list I mean he is. One of the best three point shooters and I fell he is one of the most underrated even though he is a 2 time champ ( in which he contributed)
@이동동-m9k2 жыл бұрын
Ray allen??? Lmfao
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
@@이동동-m9k why not, he is easily top 50
@WolfyKun2752 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or the video frames is non existant
@ImMeE192 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? Kawhi got 2nd place in 2016. He lead his team to a 67-15 season
@mumei_ryuugakusei2 жыл бұрын
if video games are reality, luka gets a couple of mvps already
@Allensanor2 жыл бұрын
Nah cuz this man win everytime in my league
@mumei_ryuugakusei2 жыл бұрын
n pelicans wins most of the championships
@montblancnoland12 жыл бұрын
davis is playing his ass of recently but him getting in the top 75 over mcgrady and howard among others dont sit right wit me
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
He should be there, but who we really should be skeptical of is a bunch of the older guys like Paul arizin and Jerry Lucas
@SCI5JUNKIE Жыл бұрын
Damn Embiid might make this list not age well at the end of this season…
@alexandrossimitzis1462 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say something about AD's fanboys! I'm on Giannis' Twitter account, and every time he tweets something out, this moronic comment: AD better than you! It's not even grammatically correct because it should be "A.D is better than you" or at least "A.D's better than you!" But even if they wrote correctly from a grammatical standpoint, they'd still not even be close to being right because Giannis did not leave Milwaukee to join LBJ's Lakers and thus riding LBJ's coattails in the bubble! Plus, Giannis ain't the one who gets injured when somebody farts next to him! And definitely Giannis ain't the one who's on a dumpster-fire team, which could miss the playins back-to-back, with a galaxy of future Hall Of Famers as his teammates, in his leader LeBron, in the triple doubles king meaning Russell Westbrook, D Howard and Melo! They should nuke their accounts for spreading fake news! Because, if they have an argument, even if it's a swiss-cheese one, elaborate on that! But that's what trolls do! They just post bulljive!
@TSierra2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a AD or Giannis fan but I can’t believe people are saying this… no way in hell is AD better than Giannis, that’s absolutely ridiculous.
@jackadrian-v4h Жыл бұрын
he said embiid will never win an mvp and he won it this season
@rickygrayson70702 жыл бұрын
Even tho kobe has one mvp he should have more than one for sure it’s crazy to say the second closes to Jordan only has one mvp
@MiloZus2 жыл бұрын
lebron has 4*
@gospelpianistguitt2 жыл бұрын
Should have 3 ngl, shoulda won in 2003 and 2006
@russellst.martin42552 жыл бұрын
Patrick Ewing
@Logiwrld29472 жыл бұрын
RIP MAMBA AND MAMBACITA AND WILT CHAMBERLAIN AND BILL RUSSELL AND MOSES MALONE MAY YOU ALL REST IN PEACE 🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️🐐😭🕊️
@uchembabasketball67542 жыл бұрын
Bro your entire personality is Kobe. Get a life dawg.
@emrekartal8513 Жыл бұрын
Well Joel just won 😂
@ImMeE192 жыл бұрын
West & Wade are the biggest surprises. Cp3, Kawhi & Dwight all deserves a MVP too.
@ethanrobinson94752 жыл бұрын
cp3 the biggest surprise to me. especially since 08 was his rightful MVP.
@TheFluffierTheBetter2 жыл бұрын
jerry west is not a pg he is a sg
@easybrezzzy4792 жыл бұрын
This is way too choppy
@curtisstankevich6025 Жыл бұрын
well he was wrong about embiid
@jt1782 Жыл бұрын
This aged like milk
@barteknatan99372 жыл бұрын
Why si many fps in video, you give me a headache 🤕
@juanpabloariasmonroy4047 Жыл бұрын
Well Joel won it already
@Bostondavis_002 жыл бұрын
I fell like you can’t put current players on here cause you never now especially Luca he’s still young and could easily win MVP
@dysfunctional4912 Жыл бұрын
Jerry West is one of the greatest SHOOTING GUARDS, not point guards mister.
@pauledmarpranom6150 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention, IT of Boston 🤔
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
He only had 1 really good season
@timothyclay83692 жыл бұрын
John Stockton (perhaps with the exception of Magic) was the greatest PG to ever play the game. You could make the case that it was Magic, but Magic played more than one position.
@brandoncoxall61492 жыл бұрын
I’m taking Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and GP before Stockton, you’re bugging
@deegee75212 жыл бұрын
@@brandoncoxall6149 exactly Stockton was more of a system guard like Steve bash was
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
@@brandoncoxall6149 GP was better at defense only compare to Stockton. Kidd was a liability on offense and a horrible shooter. Stockton was more available and a better passer, shooter then kidd
@The23op2 жыл бұрын
turn off the music please bro
@vidooksHD72 жыл бұрын
Man u right chris paul is amazing. He even has the record for most playoff chokes 4 playoffs lost while his team was leading
@sanahcoker46862 жыл бұрын
Paul George ?
@swagnineeight052 жыл бұрын
ong
@reallydoe25522 жыл бұрын
DWADE WAS ROBBED ONE TIME MAYBE TWICE
@coreyroberts472 жыл бұрын
IT so disrespected
@tyriordan2 жыл бұрын
naa embiid bouta win mvp
@aaronjykim2 жыл бұрын
In no world should Isaiah Thomas have won MVP when prime Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan were playing during the same time. 19 ppg and 8 apg is not going to cut it, when Magic is having equal level team success but averaging FAR better stats in 22 ppg, 13 apg, 8 rpg on better efficiency. And MJ is just on another planet statistically nearly doubling IT's scoring with 35-6-6 or 32-8-8. IT is a great player, but there are levels to this, and individually he was just not in the same sphere as guys like Magic or Jordan.
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
That’s not the point of the video, but he video is about the best players to never win mvp, not players that should’ve won MVPs
@aaronjykim Жыл бұрын
That's a fair point. However, to me, the IT segment was making a subtle MVP case for IT. Maybe not to the point that he should have won over Magic in 89 or 90, but at the very least, he was making the case that he had a case for MVP as much as Magic. Notice, what he says... "Led a team of misfits to the best record," "while Magic had a star cast," "had the best record," "he would go on to prove everyone wrong by sweeping Bird, and later Magic..." Etc. Those aren't words that are ONLY saying he's one of the greatest players to not win MVP... He's implying that he should have won (or at the very least, he should have had just as much a case as Magic in those particular years). Which again, I'm saying, he does not have a case on the level of Magic or Jordan in the late 80s/early 90s. Is he an MVP-csliber player? Sure. But again, there are levels to this, and he rightly shouldn't have ever won the award in a world where he's playing at the same time as prime Bird, prime Magic, and prime MJ. At the very most, I grant he could have been voted higher, like in the top 10 or even top 5 some of those years, but not quite in the same league as the guys mentioned above.
@sir.muffiniii7011 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronjykim yeah I get you
@SuiiiiiiiiRonaldo2 жыл бұрын
Dame ?
@piediepew2992 жыл бұрын
ewing
@benjisaberyt57902 жыл бұрын
First
@lildisappointment29122 жыл бұрын
wtf i’m first
@SuiiiiiiiiRonaldo2 жыл бұрын
I was
@wallah4202 жыл бұрын
@@SuiiiiiiiiRonaldo nah
@chuckiebrownbfly2 жыл бұрын
@@SuiiiiiiiiRonaldo I got a lil disappointment for ya
@SuiiiiiiiiRonaldo2 жыл бұрын
Let’s gooo
@jhonc27252 жыл бұрын
Damian lillard Will win it this year
@myst98702 жыл бұрын
Nah I think it'll be either giannis or tatum
@clevercode302 жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming
@quackmemes54102 жыл бұрын
Gianni’s or luka
@sw-sh2 жыл бұрын
tatum or luka
@tatevancleve18022 жыл бұрын
No because the voters require the team to have a great record. Sometimes the require the team to have the best record but even when that doesn't happen. The team has to at least be a playoff team. In those situations though that player has to have significantly better stats than the stars that got the top 1-3 slots in the playoffs. The only exception that I can think of is when Westbrook win the mvp on a very mediocre team but that's because he had an alltime great season that prior to it happening no one would ever believe someone his size would avg a triple double. Facts!!! I Love Dame though, his us so clutch & one of the most loyal athletes ever