180,000 DEBT

[@casualplayeroftotalwar1344]

I swear, you sound more alive and happier playing Medieval 2, or like you were younger I guess. So heck yes, do a livestream, would be a ton of fun

[@ignacio1171]

what a good game does to a man

[@RTB3550]

It's probably because he doesn't feel restrained to Warhammer anymore. going back to the golden Era of total war!

[@ninetailedfox579121]

@@RTB3550 And somewhat because he doesn't have to worry about the constraints of the CA partnership program anymore.

[@jakkuhl6223]

Yeah I've dropped back into watching him since his historical binge began and I notice as well how much happier he seems.

[@thecursed01]

Needs more swearing.

[@παππαςγιαννης-τ6τ]

''You either die a Christian or watch yourself become a Mongol'' Sun Tzu, the Art of Mongol

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

The quote is actually from Karl von Clausewitz, in his book, On Mongols

[@galvatron0810]

​@@ihatemotionblur_3255🤡

[@παππαςγιαννης-τ6τ]

@@ihatemotionblur_3255 Yes, thank you for the correction .I also like Julius Caesar's The Mongol Wars

[@Don_the_Cat]

​@@παππαςγιαννης-τ6τ😂 thats so funny 😅

[@tenchimuyo69]

They are the exception.

[@Sephr95]

You know this campaign is a real travesty when Legend considers the ransom option.

[@laszlototh9803]

12000 is a lot of money if you have a 120000 debt. Its 10% of his debts, maybe he should take the ransom here.

[@janiser4711]

Yes, there's money in this ;-)

[@ernestb7055]

@@laszlototh9803 he wouldn't be able to take Milan and 24000 there.

[@wyvernliberatus8474]

@@laszlototh9803The problem with the ransom mechanic is that the AI can almost never afford to pay. So all the captives are instantly executed, even if you have the king which is not authentic to the Middle Ages at all. If you could keep the captives until ransoms can be paid or use them for treaters, and have prisoner swap mechanics, it would be better.

[@Rynewulf]

@@wyvernliberatus8474ooh working in Mount and Blade prisoner mechanics into a war game like this would be very cool. Maybe an army or garrison would have x prisoner space relative to its size, or maybe it would generate shitty 'prisoner' units that take up army space until ransomed off

[@cmagnus7980]

The Legend of old has returned! Really enjoying all the historical disaster videos. I got a little bored of all the Warhammer content, but watching you clean up a huge mess never gets old. Keep up the great work!

[@warlordnipple]

"disaster" is a bit loose. It is clear the player tried until around turn 30 then just ended his turn to ramp up debt.

[@RTB3550]

​@warlordnipple it does explain all the generals at the same locations

[@MasterhpIke]

Hmm

[@henryb.7723]

This definitely needs a Part 2

[@OldBaldWookiee]

Im loving the recent return to medieval 2 total war it makes me wanna go back and play it again too

[@charlesmiv3842]

Go back? Dog, we’ve been playing it to this day.

[@OldBaldWookiee]

@@charlesmiv3842 i still have it installed. I played it last maybe less than a year ago I've been playing total war warhammer 3 and baldurs gate 3 . So therefore im going back to playing it again after a lil break . I also have been playing that game for many years after its release

[@fabianustertius6460]

not having Med2 at any time to play, is like not breathing.

[@smartalec2001]

This is a classic time. The disregard for his troops' lives reminds of King Edward in Braveheart. "Archers, loose into the melee." "Sire, that'll hit our own men!" *confused* "Yes? But it'll hit THEIRS as well?"

[@archer8849]

"we have reserves"

[@Seedmember]

Imagine telling a modern total war player that an open gate means both you and your enemies can get through. Must be mind blowing to imagine that happening.

[@dumitruion9115]

Amazing, it goes both ways! Nuclear fusion unlocked!

[@alphaluda]

Why? How is it handled in modern games? Most recent one I played is Attila.

[@EvoraGT430]

@@alphaludaEnemy will just stare at an open gate in WH versions.

[@ajitae1460]

yeah if i open the gate to attack the ram in medieval 2 the AI WILL immediately rushing in, even in normal battle difficulty

[@hukutka94]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA@@EvoraGT430 For Real??? Damn...

[@Thehustlelad]

You’d be surprised how many horde invasions in history have been due to being kicked out by other hordes. The formation of Hungary by the Magyars due to being pushed west by the Pechenegs comes to mind. Seeing the Russian position similarly where they were trying to escape the mongols by pushing west made me lol. Legit strategy though if you’re not prepared. Love this disaster save. Had so much fun watching you handle this.

[@BlazinMaverick0090]

“Sofia is revolting” then proceeds to bash CA 😂. Never change legend to take every opportunity to clown them.

[@tuffelmann]

I'm quite happy about the disaster campaigns from the older titles. Please continue it.

[@Judgeharm]

Still early in the vid but I love watching Legend "fix" saves. I think it really shows knowledge and skill. It is easy to autopilot a save that is going well and most 'good' players will find themselves in an unloseable situation quickly. Saving a mess is impressive.

[@King.Leonidas]

Yeah the game is not hard at Normal. it's a good game to give to your kids

[@mickethegoblin7167]

​@@King.Leonidasone can have fun without setting everything to Hard...

[@kevinmbtbass]

HRE: Become our vassal Legend: Sure I'll just betray you HRE: Not if I betray you first I love this game

[@hukutka94]

Classic diplomacy requires classic decisions to be taken :D

[@honkworld9405]

Lore accurate.

[@sddsds768]

Oh gosh I didn't know how much I missed M2TW saving your disaster campaign videos until this one!

[@Ahlecc]

I was going to post a comment about how it's so cool to see Legend returning to his roots with historical Total War games but then I saw this guy's greatest general is named Ivan the Cuckold and I can't stop laughing at that

[@mort1616]

Doesn't your wife have a new colleague called Ivan?

[@exantiuse497]

@mort1616 Cuckold is the one whose spouse cheats, not the one she cheats with

[@Spirultima]

Especially with max Dread, like, how??

[@iamthekingof1omillionsunsets]

@@Spirultima people kept calling him "ivan the cuckold" and he snapped

[@lensy6]

funny that medieval 2 feels more fresh than most modern total war

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Like a stale bread

[@charlesmiv3842]

@@shmekelfreckles8157no, more like a freshly baked brioche right out the of oven

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@charlesmiv3842 lmao cope

[@charlesmiv3842]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 Not coping at all, are you a nu-tw fan?

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@charlesmiv3842 yeah, they’re good games, nothing wrong with them

[@ChainOfCommand12]

Legend: Can I have Mongols? Mom: We have Mongols at home. *Mongols at home*

[@Boaboard22]

Feels like old times with all these OG disaster saves

[@Omega4Productions]

Loving the return to historical Total War Legend! Glad to see you enjoying it just as much as we enjoy watching it. Keep up the great work!

[@commodusleitdorf2726]

These Medieval 2 vids have been great. I just reinstalled it myself and have been having a blast so far!

[@MasterManGod]

This should totally be a live stream. It's a really interesting conundrum and has already been helpful to me in my latest game.

[@Craftworld_patriot]

Rus is the weirdest faction in M2TW, because of it's location, non-historical units and character's names, which consist of just random words. That's why I like playing stainless steel mod more than vanilla, it just removes all these strange things. Among other improvements, of course:)

[@AndreLuis-gw5ox]

Its just a game, Ivan

[@MsSirAndy]

@@AndreLuis-gw5ox a very good one, though. Nevertheless, Rus is still a good faction to play. I like Tsar Guards

[@Craftworld_patriot]

​@@AndreLuis-gw5oxof course. I'm not offended by it, it just doesn't let me feel the atmosphere

[@MsSirAndy]

@@Craftworld_patriot I understand that, even the Byzantines have approximative names. Unfortunately, the only way for a true faithful historical experience are mods

[@Craftworld_patriot]

​@@MsSirAndycompletely agree

[@tomm9963]

You do genuinely seem more happier playing Rome or Med 2 than you do the more modern games. It's nice to see

[@RatherIncoherent]

Swinging by to say that I've been a fan of your content for ages, and to let the algorithm know that people like the historical content too.

[@Palmar.001]

I've thought this for awhile: these disaster campaigns are more fun to watch you play to beat than starting from turn 0 and playing optimally. You're simply too good at the game mate; these challenges are more fun to watch you fix and play through compared to watching a letsplay at turn 111, where you've played the whole time optimally.

[@monkfiche9384]

Time for a live stream I think. Always good to see medieval battle mechanics. Pathfinding is a bit wonky, and they appear to take a while to take orders - but I’ve always thought that was deliberate. The engine certainly contrasts with WH et al. It’s far too arcadey these days - neat marching units (even of goblins!) with bright banners obscuring the actual unit. Versus here where men are seen pushed out at the sides (often not doing much if you zoom in - but aesthetically its cool), and a need to be much more aware of the battle - more limited mini map and especially not immediately clear where the general or elite troops are - or that artillery are raining destruction! Take that engine and enhance pathfinding, and we’d be golden. The AI is predictable, but far far less stupid than WH et al.

[@mort1616]

Don't request a live stream in the UK. The water companies can't stop dumping effluence every time it rains....

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

I’m not sure if we’ve watched the same game

[@Inkling2B]

All of the engines have issues. There are way more quality of life improvements in Shogun 2 and WH2 than there were in Medieval 2. Artillery trails? You can turn that off bro

[@Inkling2B]

Also unit cohesion is a good thing. Means you don't have isolated entities getting stuck and dying stupidly

[@spirit959ful]

Really hope this is turned into a livestream.

[@antalito3047]

I love the M2 content, personally for me it’s way more entertaining that any of the W3 videos. M2 just has so much strategy involved and I love to see how you tackle difficult situations. Keep ‘em coming!

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

I doubt you’ve seen a lot of his WH videos then

[@Soren015]

Hey Legend - I know you had a pretty strict "no mods" policy back when Med2 was more of your bread & butter -- but with this departure from newer titles, lately - would you consider doing battles or campaigns in some of the big Med2 mods? Like Divide & Conquer or similar stuff? Love the content, keep it coming!

[@hukutka94]

That'd be great! Upvoting this for Legend to see!

[@exantiuse497]

He did make at least one modded campaign. Stainless steel or something? I would like to see more though

[@VitorEmanuelOliver]

I'm pretty sure DaC will be a no. Maybe Stainless Steel would be acceptable

[@mellon3891]

I love the idea of DAC, but it's slow and weird and unbalanced when you really get into it. It's fun because of the LOTR aspect, its actual gameplay on the campaign map is tolerable at best.

[@Soren015]

@@mellon3891 I mean, to each their own. I definitely agree that it's slow and unbalanced in a lot of ways, but I guess it's particular brand of slow and unbalanced is just pretty fun, to me.

[@tosso11]

medieval 2 three days in a row, what a time to be alive

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

Classic slav tactic to sack Rome while escaping from nomads

[@denizkara3928]

Dunno if I can catch a livestream, but having a 5-7 hour vod of you fixing this campaign would be amazing.

[@laszlototh9803]

"If some of those guys dies, we dont have to pay them anyomre" - thats how a true russian general speak.

[@PCgamer238]

Come home from yet another gruesome Monday at work. Open YT to watch something for the evening. Karl Jobst has a banger on Billy Mitchell again and right beside that Legend has a whole fuckin hour of yet another legendary Medieval 2 debt disaster goodness lined right up. An excellent start of the week indeed.

[@TheIcarusFalls]

Ole Karl's been pushing Cheating Billy's shit in again, has he? Good. Good. Dis is dae way.

[@chance6296]

You know Legend the reason I fell in love with your channel is because you were one of the fewest (if any channels that actually posted retro total war content) please keep up the great work!! I would love to touch base and send you some campaigns from my shogun 2 play throughs.

[@shkibeta]

Love the historical total war content. That’s what brought me back to the channel.

[@Hompkins]

Gotta love the tension in M2 battles. Watching the army struggling to clear the bridge (~ 40:30 ) while fireballs were landing all around your generals got me HYPED up.

[@MrNiike7]

Great to see you doing MTW2, i started playing it cuz of you recently, especially SS 6.4, if anyone knows better mod i ll gladly try it. Thanks for everything legend, learned a lot from you! Keep doing it! Regards from Serbia!

[@lixlord4926]

gotta say this made me want to go back and play this game.

[@damjankrstevski22]

Keep doing old total war. It's your own channel u can do whatever u want, but kinda missed these old pro playtroughs

[@DautFromX]

Thoroughly enjoying these Medieval 2 disaster campaigns and would LOVE to see you tackle the longer ones in a livestream.

[@thomas2406]

So fun to watch you tackle these campaigns, you really sound a lot happier playing them. Have you ever considered doing any stainless steel content? It's such a fun "vanilla" feeling mod for medieval 2, and I might have a very interesting save file you could save.

[@TheIcarusFalls]

He's done loads of Stainless Steel campaigns. I believe he has a playlist for his Stainless Steel 6.4 campaigns iirc.

[@wyattjenkins7898]

“What is this… allies?!…. Psh not anymore” classic LOTW😂

[@derhair6372]

I love this content. Its like asking your big brother for help with your campaing and he finds ways of fixing your shit while still having fun, being entertaining and giving advice

[@masterchief8402]

It’s good to see this kind of content. I haven’t been watching Warhammer series since it’s not my kind of game but it’s good to see LOTW is back into this fun content 😊

[@baggelis_aikaterinis]

LegendofTotalWar + Medieval II: Total War = ❤

[@Lorehammer-shorts]

180 000 debt? Sounds like CA’s current daily balance

[@2D_SVD]

Oh man, bringing back the memories. The good old France campaign with 300000 debt was one of the first things I've watched on this channel!

[@simpbeforeusleep]

Although you have to really suck to be in this bad situation, it’s nice to see these what if scenarios if people play a certain way

[@dragour8723]

A huge horde arrives from the east and forces the steppe people to push west.. this is just Medieval Barbarian Invasion XD Love Medieval 2, favourite in the series so loving these videos =D

[@antoniomoreira5921]

Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in Mongol warfare I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series

[@rschawrtz]

Legend: Leaves all the infantry behind Legend: Legend: *Surprised Pikachu Face* 🤣🤣

[@MrTrout33]

Love the return to Medieval 2! Still my favorite total war. Perhaps a series of Medieval 2 Tier List videos could be fun? It's probably a lot of work for an old game such as this but I bet a lot of your viewers would get a kick out of it!

[@roflcopterlolbag]

Actually impressive how on your intro you've managed to make "LegendofTotalWar" a single syllable word love the medieval content!

[@mustafaamin9516]

30:52 that is a legendary joke

[@GodlyEddy]

Love these so MUCH!! keep it up Legend! Its a fresh of breath air, with all the Warhammer nonstop videos.

[@Razzrazz90]

What I’m loving about this return to form is that, looking at the view counts, Legend’s non-Warhammer total war videos have not just been sustainable, but actually doing better than the Warhammer stuff. I say this as someone who loves Warhammer, I am so thankful Legend gets to play the older games, because they deserve their time in the spotlight too!

[@MarcusAurelius202]

indeed - at long last you seem to be enjoying content creation again :) - glad to see it!

[@Iceman-135]

This would be a fun live stream to see you try and salvage, I'd watch it. Glad you're feeling happier doing these historical games, a happy LOTW is more fun to watch.

[@ChocolatePancakeMan]

*Peasants break into the castle to steal their lord's gold.* Peasants: Where's all the money!? Legend: These are as good as money, knave. These are IOUs.

[@OhNotThat]

Still nothing compared to the LEGENDARY 600k FLORINS of Debt the Kingdom of France had in your other Disaster save. I gotta question who keeps lending these guys this money? Merchants you got some explaining to do. It's not like medieval kings in the 11th century could just fire up the printer and make more gold coins, someone's gotta be giving them this money.

[@malyas8222]

This is very interesting case, we need a livestream!

[@partizanlegis]

yeah! we definitely want a livestream of a continuation of this campaign. Glad you enjoy playing these classic games man

[@Blacklight1138]

Diseaster streams sounds like a great idea. Usually your medieval streams are kinda samey, because you just roll over the AI. But this will put you at a more natural disadvantage than AI cheats

[@drewwelch3584]

United States government simulator.

[@booradley6832]

The Rus debt is more than 10x their GDP. US debt is just shy of 1x. Significantly less if you actually factor in the amount of debt of others we hold. Not even close.

[@Daedalus_9]

@@booradley6832 I can't hear you, all I hear is "money printing go brrrrrrrrrrr"

[@yarghhargh9345]

US has a lot of money which is why it costs $15 for a McDonalds meal

[@Botzorz]

​@@booradley6832 You are not using the ratio that matters. The best stat for government debt is, debt to GDP which the ratio of interest on debt to the gdp growth. The total debt doesn't matter that much. The USA raises the debt ceiling all the time. However the government doesn't use the debt to invest in growth; which has been stuck around 2% as long as I can remember. 2% of 26 trillion GDP is a lot but basically all of it has been going to interest on the debt, which has also been around 2% for a long time as well. Until recently it went to 3%. Unless that is reversed in the next few years USA will create the worlds biggest debt trap for itself. The inflation is already being felt somewhat. On the other hand the russian economy isn't exactly impressive at 2 trillion GDP but their debt to GDP ratio is 17% (on a good year), compared to USA which has a debt to gdp of 129% since last year, which is due to that above average 3% interest rate. Anything above 100% is needless to say, very bad and will just about guarantee a recession and an enormous expansion of debt. In fact the US GDP is almost all hollow because its service and speculation economy along with a net trade deficit. That is someone badly needs to invest in real production and soon.

[@BillyBob-kj4qq]

I'm glad youre liking what you're doing. It makes me so fucking happy. The emotion in your voice is genuine, and the views show it. We agree, the older games are much more dynamic and just better to play and watch. There is also more learning content in the old games due to the learning curve.

[@stefanciocan1605]

Legend of Total War is finally back !

[@SereglothIV]

I still remember that enormous French debt, that was truly one of the greatest SYDC on the channel

[@marcoferrero1558]

this is so cool, the easteward migrations caused by western horse raiders are literally one of the greatest forces history has seen, Rome fell to the geranic tribles fleeing the huns. its so interesting to see a "simmulation" like this cause the same thing

[@jordancaleb5790]

Hey legend glad to see you doing more older historical total war content! Would love to see this as a series called "The Horde" Legend burns Europe to settle debts

[@commissarmartin]

Biggest question for me on this one... What on earth happened on turn 65 for it to go so wrong? 😂

[@Bluemangrup]

My guess is either they came from TW:Warhammer and thought hero spam was a good idea, or this was setup to fail- both are very likely lol

[@jesussavesbutdoesnttrustbanks]

Honestly hope to see more of this, Rome/Barbarian Invasion, and maybe Shogun II. Glad to see a return to form!

[@xXGamerGirl47Xx]

I love Medi 2 and am so glad youre covering it again. Would love to see you do some mod livestreams in the future

[@Flow86767]

Absolutely love it when you do historical total wars vids

[@FifinatorKlon]

4:25 "A mongol invasion caused by the mongol invasion!" So, basically everyone running away from the huns like in Roman times?

[@scarletcroc3821]

Since I haven't seen Legend use it, I'll point it out to people who aren't as familiar with Medieval 2. If you click on your faction's banner in the bottom right then it will highlight all of your and your enemy's units in green and red respectively. It makes units much easier to see when there's very few entities left or when they're in a terrain that makes them hard to spot

[@TiberianusLP]

I watched these days the half million debt french disaster. Happy the Disaster never really change.

[@Shadow.24772]

i'm dying of laughing!~ took Legend 16 minutes to notice the "issue" at Vienna and when he DID notice, this became Gold!~~ Thank you, sirrr

[@onestormgx8948]

Coming from total warhammer, looking an army of characters with more than 20 entities is something i kinda like alot, also cavalry performing good in a long combat looks like something warhammer needs desperately.

[@marcin7054]

Maybe i am not legend of total war but i consider myself as decent player, and everytime i see disaster campaign i cant imagine how people can achieve this state. Like look at this 180k in debt? How the hell is this possible

[@TheBigSvaamp]

29:52 was just chef's kiss.

[@tiggerbane4325]

God I love these debt based solving ones. So good how they do this.

[@0NoName9]

Extremely fucked campaigns are my favorite to watch, historical or not. Keep them coming!

[@kkyrezis]

The only 1 hour long videos on youtube, I EASILY watch whole.

[@jonlannister345]

I remember playing the original Rome as a kid, and saving my empire by liquidating all of the buildings in a town. I suddenly realised why the town I lived in was rapidly going downhill as everything closed and funding pulled out.

[@bificommander7472]

This has strong Roman Empire vibes. A step army of horse archers invades from the east, driving the locals west until they invade and sack Italy.

[@hunterjennings4744]

Id love to see you continue to cover the classic titles.

[@Saciachrid]

Legend's KZbin title game is unmatched. Top tier.

[@mardo7392]

Glad seeing you do historical content again. Watched you alot before warhammer came out.

[@itaske2402]

Livestream would be awesome, ive never even played this game so im a little lost on some of the mechanics but this is fun to watch. Love warhammer but its nice to see something else as well

[@normaniguns1894]

I'm loving these historical disaster campaigns. I might need to send in mine if it goes worse

[@Shnarg100]

Yes please stream this as a disaster campaign!!!

[@conorfowler]

Would love to see this continued as a live stream! Been really enjoying seeing the older games featured lately

[@Seethus]

As soon as I hear the medieval soundtrack the nostalgia overload is real. Love this game.

[@CheezeN7]

So glad to see you enjoying yourself Legend! Hope we get a livestream!

[@julienzavaro3070]

Am i alone to had "debts management" and "fast loans" ads on that vid ?

[@lukacvitkovic8550]

Watching you overcome insurmountable odds is a joy

[@GeluTavi]

Historical content is back? Resubbed.

[@mattburgess1957]

I know this already got taken to a live stream, but just reinforcing that this was a particularly compelling challenge. Medieval 2 vids are quite fun generally - the gap between what Legend can pull off and how I used to play back in the day is enormous, it feels even more cheesable than the modern games.

[@tisucitisin1]

Legend - I am not using scorched earth tactics. Every disaster campaign - uses scorched earth tactics.