1942 Farmall H Memorial Restoration: Axles, Bull Gears, PTO, Brake Seals & Top Cover

[@durwardsmall2305]

Really neat to see how these are put together. Was raised on a 53 super h and later pop got a 51 m. Farming was good in the 50's Thanks Kenny for the wonderful Vidios

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Very glad you enjoy them, sir! Thank you for the kind comment and the little snippet of family history! It is always great to hear the stories!

[@chincha805]

coming right along,

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

We are getting there!

[@billyjamison9733]

Nice work as usual! Process is coming along nicely. At the time of this message there was one person that gave your video a thumbs down, I wish they would have said why they didn't like it maybe there's something you didn't touch on.. maybe it was the process of putting the top deck on I don't know.. Right or wrong my father and I set ours on by hand, we got the shift forks and gears lined up by measuring off the front of the housing. But we had the line of where the top deck was sitting as ours was not sandblasted clean.. we had some various-sized Square stock that we could put in between the deck and deck plate.. FYI.. I have made a lot of gaskets out of beer box material, I have not had an issue yet using it LOL Stay safe my friend

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Yes, each video seems to get one or two thumbs down consistently. I am not sure the reason, but I can't improve without knowing. I do the best I can - keep in mind I'm learning as I go as well. Some of it I am re-learning as was the case today in putting the belt pulley back together, lol. Cereal, soda, and beer boxes make great gasket material. And it's very inexpensive, available in large sheets! Glad to hear you enjoyed. If I did it again, I would use some pieces of threaded rod and use them as guide pins so you could get the plate close, align your gears and forks, and drop the deck into place. Would be nothing to it!

[@billyjamison9733]

Oh yes by all means I enjoyed this video.. I was curious about the outcome of the bake/clutch shaft.. that had me rethinking what we did on dad's M .. all good!! Don't let anyone get you down.. FORNICATE THE HATERS!! LOL

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

@@billyjamison9733 Yessir - I was skeptical when I installed it, but it cleared... It BARELY cleared. Lol!

[@mikeshively9977]

I thoroughly enjoy watching these videos, I had a 1944 H and now I have a 1942 M. The old Farmalls are great old workhorses.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Thank you, Mike. Can't go wrong with an H or M!

[@kimtucker6021]

It's been great watching these videos !

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

I'm glad you are enjoying them, Jason!

[@johnmuncy1710]

Great Video

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Thanks, John!

[@joeweber3967]

You can move the bottom of that indicator . It pissed forward and backwards pat what you think it moves .

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Not sure I'm following this comment.

[@huntingandstuff9489]

I get a short attention span at times but I can actually pay attention to the whole video while you're putting this tractor together.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Im very glad. I I'm now they can get a little long winded, but I have to take advantage of shop time when I get it. I'm trying to chunk things up better as I go along.

[@boblajoiesr591]

I'm talking about Steiner

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

When I look it up, all of the sliding gears as well as the constant mesh gear are available through steiner. If you're looking for countershaft gears I am not sure what is available new. The bearings I cross referenced and ordered through a local bearing supplier, or found some NOS on eBay. The only one I couldn't cross reference was the Hyatt roller bearing which serves as the pilot beating for the front of the top shaft (rides inside the input shaft). Just to let you know, to replace all bearings and seals in the rear you're looking at easily $1000... Add the price of new gears on top of it.

[@roncorbin1500]

Moving right along, be safe with your back !

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Slowly but surely! Using the floor jack and engine hoist as much as I can to save from getting a back injury! Ha ha.

[@stevemccoy8138]

Starting to look like a Tractor again. Thanks Kenny.🇺🇸

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

FINALLY!

[@ralfie8801]

Hey Kenny, FYI A potential source for that PTO seal/ o ring you couldn't find might be Caterpillar. They have a multitude of o rings in all different sizes, they might accidentally have what you need. There are also o ring making kits that consist of a long length of o ring material, you measure the length you need, angle cut the ends, and glue it together with a super glue type adhesive to form your ring seal. Just for future reference sir, I know you have a lot of projects where this information might come in handy. You did good working by yourself, have a good day!

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Thanks for the info! Brokenwrench also mentioned the make your own O-ring kits as well. Sounds interesting, I had never heard of that. Definitely good information! Thanks!

[@ralfie8801]

Kenny Kizzle Rusty Nutz Ranch You're welcome brother, I don't mind sharing what little I know if I see someone that may have a need for it!

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

@@ralfie8801 It is very much appreciated! We are learning as we go on this one! (Just like every one)!

[@brokenwrench1]

when installing axle assemblies on farmalls we had some loner bolts ith the heads removed to guide the axle into the case. this made this repair in the field possible we also used stacks of various thickness boards to sit the top cover on with to align it up more easily... also on the pto o ring yoou cant get most industrial supplier for machine tools supplies sells universal custom make your onwn O Ring kits in round and square stock you cut to size and glue together with special glue that is included

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

That is kind of what I though after the fact - could use the same method for the top cover. A few pieces of 8" threaded rod to act as guides. Set your gears and forks where they need to be, and you can drop that cover right down and you know it won't be shifting. Really wasn't too bad to do with the floor jack and engine hoist. Good to know about the O-ring. The one that was on there was still in very nice shape, so I think a little RTV will help. But, for future reference, I will definitely look up those O-Ring kits!

[@brokenwrench1]

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[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

@@brokenwrench1 Thanks!

[@seniorelectrician6831]

I watched this at night and came to it to comment. I would think that some long pieces of all thread in your threaded holes. should help you align every thing while you have it suspended by your engine lift.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

All thread would probably help, but I was learning as I went with this project. When I do the Case SC, it will be a little bit different I think.

[@garyfeltus9801]

Looking good . Between you and squatch I could over haul a cat . Then with this I can do a IH. Great video thanks for sharing.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Glad you're enjoying, Gary!

[@hturbo1007]

Thanks!,This video was very helpful and interesting to me. I need break seals for my H and my M .I feel very comfortable now to tackle the seals by myself. 👍

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

They are a lot easier to remove with the carriers removed, but can be done without removing the carriers. The methods I have seen done involved drilling 4 holes in the existing seal, and running sheet metal screws down into them to act as a puller. The sheet metal screws bottom out against the pinion carrier casting, and push the seal out. Just make sure you tighten them down at a fairly even rate to pull it out as effectively as possible.

[@hturbo1007]

@@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch thank you for the tip. I'll definitely do that.

[@hturbo1007]

@@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch I was just wondering. Did you put your new gear oil in the transmission before you installed the deck plate? It would have been easier for you if you did.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

@@hturbo1007 I did not put gear oil in it prior to closing it up. It would have been easier, but I've dumped gear oil in these so many times it's like second nature. I've got a nice big funnel that makes it easy as well.

[@brianzinuticz2709]

Decided to adjust the carb on my H today because last owner said it hasn't been touched since 1987 lol. Might pull it apart, when i screw in the it will eventually die (which is normal) but when I back it out it won't get rich no matter how far I back it out. Runs excellent tho which is weird

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Won't hurt to pull it apart and do a good thorough cleaning. The H carburetors are pretty simple. Be VERY careful with the idle drip tube. If you can get a small wire through it, you are better off leaving it in place as many times they are ruined when people try to remove them.

[@davidb8872]

Thanks just what I wanted to see 👍

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Glad you like it!

[@craigrasnic4178]

Great job sir, now I’m confident about replacing the axle seals and pto seals in my M. The only thing that I will do differently is have a second person to help align everything with the reassembly

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Yes - the axles and bull gears are HEAVY and difficult to handle by yourself. An M would be even more challenging since everything is bigger and heavier. It can be done with some thinking, though!

[@g.waynebeard4642]

I feel your Pain, I did my Rear Axle reassembly by myself with only a floor hoist. I did use a 2x4 block to hold the bull gear where i could get the Spines lined up and the bolt started,

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

It's not easy, but it is doable. I think my use of the floor jack really helped - and doing the assembly with the transmission on the ground for safety.

[@farmworkMi]

Dude I watched this whole episode loved it I like that its geting big agian very nice video keep it up . I do wish you would have shown the top plate going in but I got the point this was a very good learner

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

With my GoPro battery dying I was at a loss. Only method I had at that point was my phone, and I had nothing or nowhere to set out to get a good view. It's really pretty self explanatory - lower it down slowly and get your shift forks aligned and you're golden!

[@farmworkMi]

Yes I agree very easily done thanks for showing the great build it's a wonderful project real soul in the tractor awsome job buddy

[@Trish-yp5cb]

Thanks for this video. I loved seeing how everything goes together inside the transmission housing. Still working the punches situation. Had to cancel first order. More about that when I have news.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

No worries. I'm glad you are enjoying, sir! More coming at you soon!

[@stevelabrecque5368]

Hey Kenny, I am really enjoying these reassembly videos. It is really nice to see how stuff should look and the tips before I get to this stage in my project. I will be sure to go slow and document it before and during the pull apart stage (your spacers issue was a great reminder). I apologize if I missed it, but I am curious as to why you are replacing all the bolts? Keep up the great work!!!

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

I am very glad to hear you find this helpful! My advice to everyone is always to take photos prior to each stage of disassembly so that you know how it will look when going back together. I am replacing a lot of the "easy to find" bolts simply because I have gift cards to the local hardware store so I figure why not. There are some bolts that are specific lengths that cannot be found unless you have them made, so those bolts will be reused.

[@stevelabrecque5368]

@@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch That works, thanks.

[@joeweber3967]

Sorry , I mean it pushes forwards and backwards

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

I think you're referring to the dial indicator?

[@joeweber3967]

@@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch yes , you can move that probe ? Like 90' degrees either way . Sorry about the confusion . I don't know how to explane it . But that indicator dosen't have to stick straight out of the bottom

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

@@joeweber3967 Yessir. I figured that out in the differential setup video. Ha ha. Although, I didn't learn that until I had already turned the camera off but I re-checked it and we were within spec still at .011". The indicator tip should be placed against the gear at approximately a 30-degree angle, from what I was told.

[@charlescastle5566]

Looking good Kenny. I haven't been on the channel in a while, hope all is well with you and your family. I'm going to try to get caught back up. Keep up the good work.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Thanks, Charles and welcome back! Hope you have some time to get caught up!

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

Boy, there's nothing like "Hog Wrastlin" heavy cast iron.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

It sure is difficult by yourself! Lol

[@bryanh1944FBH]

Question for Kenny or any other: What exactly does the grease fitting on the outermost axle housing do? Probably would have been better asked in the previous video where it was shown. Nevertheless, it looks like the grease path is on the outside of both the seal and outer bearing. So, what does the grease at this location do? It looks like that outer bearing is lubricated with the fluid in the differential housing.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

The grease fitting will force grease into the bearing, there is a passage drilled towards the bearing itself.. The bearing is shielded on the inside, so oil does not get to it directly. At best, it is splash lubricated, but still is not lubricated directly due to the shield.

[@huntingandstuff9489]

Would it be easier to use a couple longer bolts to start pulling those axle housings in? Just an idea I had

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

It might be easier, but the tough part is getting the bull gear started on the end of the axle. Both items are HEAVY, and to wiggle each one handed is a challenge.

[@boblajoiesr591]

Hi Kenny I tryed getting gears for my transmission on my farmall h,but they said they don't carry none of the gears or bearings

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Steiner carries the sliding gears. Not sure about the bottom (countershaft) gear set.

[@Oldfarming231]

can u remove/install the pto shaft with the top on ??

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Yes, you can. It is more of a challenge getting it aligned with the countershaft on installation, but a lot of guys slide a piece of 4 foot pipe on the end of the pto to help balance the weight as you slide it in. It makes it much easier to handle.

[@waynep343]

sounds like you need one of those portable batteries and when the cameras are not recording they can be recharging.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

I could use a couple spares. Didn't really miss much with setting the top cover on. Lower it slowly, align the shift forks, and voila!

[@brianzinuticz2709]

What size tires skins do you plan to use on the rear? Or are you going to reuse the old skins

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

13.6-38 rears. Already sold the old tires and put the money towards the project.

[@wemedeeres4105]

You could be a disc jockey in your spare time, collar one, collar two, collar three ;-)

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Ain't that the truth!

[@Midwesternrailroader]

Did you have problems finding parts?

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

Only a couple things. Most everything for letter series tractors is still available

[@boblajoiesr591]

Hi Kenny .On my 1949 farmall h.I'm removing the plate above the rearend.I ha 've everything removed except the stick shift.How does that come off.

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

There is a large cross pin (approximately 1/2" diameter) just under the dust cover on the top of the shifter. Usually, there are two drill plugs on each side. Drill the plugs out and then push down on the shift lever to release the spring tension. The pin should slide out, then pull the shift lever assembly out as a unit. Very simple once you get those drill plugs out.

[@ihus9950]

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[@cassiuspuckett8789]

Nice video Ken. It's beginning to look like a tractor. How hard was it to aline the shift forks to to slots on the sliding gear sets? Cause it looks like you run out of room fast as you lower the top plat into place. Love watching this kind of stuff....

[@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch]

It was pretty simple, you can get the gears real close to where they need to be prior to getting the cover too low. I'd recommend threading in maybe four 8" pieces of threaded rod so you can raise the top deck into position, and it will then have a guide as you lower it so it doesn't move. That way you can raise it up and adjust the gears to match the shift forks and everything is locked in position.

[@evankibbe590]

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