1975 Minimoog Vs iPad Minimoog App!

[@sibbyeskie]

Thanks for the comparisons. The Minimoog sounds so much rounder and fuller. Even the higher notes have richer low harmonics. And they're just so solid without any phasing muddying up that beautiful low end. No harshness either. You don't even have to reach for EQ or compression. So nice!

[@DavidMorley]

The Minimoog is a classic for a reason. In person, the Moog is even more impressive imho . The app is a good soundalike BUT the power of the real thing and it's musicality is something else. Thx for the video!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+David Morley Thanks man!

[@manticore101]

David Morle

[@animalbeats]

You can feel the thing is alive when you're near it, extraordinary.

[@LFOVCF]

The tones seem to be pretty similar, but the comparison was difficult to judge as some patches sounded more chorussy due to, I presume the oscillators were not matched detune wise. But as I always say, nobody knows or cares in a mix.

[@adam872]

That's my view also. Maybe the natural drift of the Moog has an influence there. The digital version will be a lot more precise and perhaps not have the "character" and imperfections of the hardware.

[@BeatleJWOL]

That is some SPICY detune on the Mini. I imagine getting the 1975 original to match the app was a bit of a nightmare but yeah; can't beat the real deal. The app is a clean and effective synth. The Mini is a monster waiting to be unleashed. Awesome video!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Wagimawr Thanks, that's well put :-)

[@RigatoniModular]

You seem to be detuning the app's oscillators less (not actually matching up the settings), causing things to sound more different than they should

[@DaveKaplowitz]

The real thing sounds richer than the app but the app sounds pretty good. Nice playing as usual, Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Dave Kaplowitz Thanks Dave!

[@iwillnevergetone5]

a friend recently told me about playing their moog during an outdoors set on a hot ass day. said the moog couldn't stay in tune bc of the heat/humidity. never thought about that as a possible issue with these. great vid again!! solid sounds from both

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Darrien Day Thanks, yeah one has to be really brave to use vintage analog synths live. :-)

[@PostExpert]

Like many others, I think the iMini does a good job but it does not reproduce the imperfection of the analog cycling that we ear on the Mini. It gives the original Moog its personality, and uniqueness.

[@chriseisert1349]

Well stated... Absolutely.

[@JAFOpty]

I think the disco ball makes a huge difference in the sound. IMHO! :-P

[@JohanSegeborn]

+JAFO-PTY hahaha! Yeah it provides the necessary vulgarity ;-)

[@RickMcCargar]

That was really cool. The iMini is totally usable, but pales in comparison...but if someone only heard the iMini in a song...it would absolutely cool.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Rick McCargar Thanks Rick, yeah many things works great as long as they're not put back to back to something better. In many mixes an approximation is good enough to get the job done.

[@RickMcCargar]

I've learned a lot watching your videos, can't thank you enough!

[@LennartMeyerAcoustic]

interesting that Slavoj Žižek's younger brother is into Synths... :D

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Lennart Meyer hahaha! ;-)

[@MattDiamondMDE]

*sniff*

[@dalerschmitt]

There is such a depth to the analog sound that can not be recreated by this software. Close, but no cigar...You're gonna go far..You're gonna fly high..You're never gonna die...You're gonna make it if you try...They're gonna love you.

[@BoyAditya]

impressive!!! i know there's definitely a different, you cant lie analog sound! but ipad moog impressed me. I guess soft-Synth is WAY better than guitar amp emulator

[@JohanSegeborn]

+rangga aditya Thanks! :-)

[@noiselabproject9659]

for the most part but if you spend enough then a Guitar amp sim can be almost perfect - Axe FX, Kemper for example ( hardware but a digital recreation ) or Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B or the software version Torpedo Wall of sound ( you`ll still need some kind of preamp/pedal for those though

[@kerryloc]

Great video! You do have access to the coolest toys! This app gets remarkably close to the device it emulates. IIRC Robert Fripp was using an iPad mellotron app on a recent King Crimson tour, so there appears to be some decent software facsimiles of vintage keyboards available these days. Thanks for the sonic trip down memory lane.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+kerryloc Thanks, yeah the iPad Mellotron is great, I use it too a lot.

[@middle_pickup]

Glad you're doing synth demos now! Keep them coming!

[@StrikeOnDrifter]

this was a really fun video to watch, can you do more synth videos like these please?

[@JohanSegeborn]

+StrikeOnDrifter Thanks :-) It will be my pleasure!

[@alexlubinski7795]

If I were a pro synth player, I'd record with Minimoog and take the iPad for tour. It's a lot of usability and reliability in a way smaller package. And it's cheaper to buy even few iPads than one actual MiniMoog! :D

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Alex Lubiński Yeah, to get the best of both worlds. Cheers Johan

[@adam872]

I'd go along with that. If you have the original hardware available, no reason not to use it in the studio, but on the road noooooo waaaaaay IMHO.

[@robertsteinberger5667]

One ipad = one boog : )

[@gaiusgrdn]

The real thing definitely sounds way better, like light years ahead of the app... but the app is only $5. :P The app can also be polyphonic, and it also has the ability to connect to lots of other apps (including copies of itself) self-contained in a much more portable and affordable unit. For someone like me, a musician with limited space who is constantly on the go, the iMini makes way more sense than an actual Minimoog. I think it's important to remember that there's more to a synth than purely its sonic character. I like to view them as two different instruments: -the- classic synthesizer and a modern homage to it, not a recreation of it. Though I look forward to a day where a legit Minimoog could be possible! One of these days I'll settle down. :P Subbed!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+gaiusgrdn Thanks! Glad to hear that! And indeed the best instruments are those that gets played. Cheers!

[@AmpAHolic-wn6mr]

Very cool comparison Johan. While I love vintage gear, old doesn't always mean better. In this case though and IMO, the real Moog just sounds more organic and musical.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Amp A. Holic Thanks, I loved the sound of the Original, it's just perfect for a rock band, the apps sound to sterile for that. Cheers

[@lordzombie]

Would love to see a comparison that incorporated a bit of knob twiddling too!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah, I had very limited access to the 75 unfortunately.

[@PoJoWo]

Be careful Johan I think you may be responsible for rising use of antidepressants in the music business. Jimmy page, ace frehley, Simon kirke and Pete way have been shaking in their boots since your videos have been out and now faltemeyer, Brian eno, John carpenter and Don airey have started showing stress symptoms. Joking aside great stuff... Always good to hear the product of your ear and creative thinking. The moog seems to have more overtones and fatness but I bet running the amazing app through even a basic fet or transistor boost or basic valve pre would add the necessary Harmonics and Compression created in the output stages of the moog. Take care

[@JohanSegeborn]

+PoJoWo Thanks! :-) I'm gonna try it though a 2-610 tub preamp and see how it holds up. Cheers!

[@phat111]

did u try it? is there a vid? cool stuff btw man

[@lundsweden]

The App is'nt bad, but the Mini looks and sounds great! The iPad app is decent sounding though!

[@debangsubanerjee2155]

Beautiful tones from both..

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Debangsu Banerjee Thanks, glad to hear that

[@truthbydesign5146]

I'm so glad you did this. I've been curious about the virtual vs real comparison for quite some time. Next could you do real vs iPad comparison of Model 15, Arp Odyssey, VCS3, M1, 4VCO, MS-20 -- and after those, the synths in iOS Syntronik, (Taurus, Prophet-5/10) Opus, OB-X, ARP 2600, etc) ? Thanks. ;) (jk) . Hope someone gets around to a few of em anyway :)

[@JohanSegeborn]

+TruthBy Design Thanks, glad to hear it! It would indeed be cool to do ARP 2600 as well. Cheers

[@TheSterlingSound]

So now let's hear a comparison of all 70s models.. let's go!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+TheSterlingSound hahahaha :-)

[@noddyspuncture]

Why doesn't the iPad Moog have yellowing keys..?

[@jml19221]

Nothing like the real thing, but the app sounds very useful for the price range.

[@Leesherwood]

Hey Johan, do you hear the differences in the transient response between analog and digital emulation. The I pad version is compressing the attack parts of the note, while the moog is punching them through. You can still here the difference even though this is a digital media.Overall, I think they did a good job, and it would be a useful tool for musicians especially in a live venue, and there is little worry of frequency drift as there was in the original.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Leesherwood Yeah, the app doesn't have the dynamic range of the 75.

[@brassalpaca]

While probably not possible to recreate the original exactly, I'm sure some equalisation, saturation, a few other things would get the tone a fair bit closer. Theoretically any sound can be recreated, right?

[@Rhythmicons]

You are doing minimoogs now? Oh hell! I run my model D through my g6g-b! The bass frequency response of the Bassman is very nice, but just lacks the thunder. I got the Bassman for a Clavinet. I found your channel while shopping for the bassman and watch for the les paul work. Now you are doing synths it's the best of both worlds for me. It has recently come up on the Moog Fan Club facebook page if people were using guitar amps with their moogs. How about that Minimoog with a 59 Bassman?

[@Ajoura]

Well, the app sounds a little bit blurry on the upper side and with mid-to-low being not prominent yet, and that's basically it. One good equalizer - and the real Minimoog is defeated. Not to mention its harmonics sound better just because it's louder overall.

[@ZakiWasik]

I actully expected the app to come closer. I think the real model D - tuning issues aside - has a massive advantage and generally sounds a lot more appealing in all of the given example.

[@chrisact9601]

Close enough for rock'n 'roll. I thought the real one still sounded nicer and I can't put my finger on why. That said, at least the iPad app stays in tune ;) Nice work, as usual, Johan.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Chris ACT Thanks Chris :-)

[@perseohernandez755]

What a good comparition !, thank´s . ant thumbs up !

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Perseo Hernandez Thanks my friend!

[@tripledoubletroubful]

Cool video. Playing the ipad apps through a guitar pedalbaord can help get things even warmer and closer...and crazier...

[@ruhnet]

The app sounds surprisingly good, and the real deal is even better.

[@tricko2286]

Felt like I was listening to the Blade Runner soundtrack... Original Moog has the mojo but app is not too bad - would probably never tell in most situations. Would think the fat snaking sounds would be noticeable in person...

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Tricko Some great music in that movie

[@Arperture]

That soundtrack was more Yamaha CS80 than Moog.

[@AlfredoZauberer]

You can hear into the Hardware Synth is more Glide or something like that...but is it not possible to ad more of this into the app? Otherwise the app is very near to the Hardware...but in my Opinion the choosen patches are not the same!

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Great video. The Mini Moog has a different sound to the app. The app comes close but there are dynamics that the Mini Moog has that the app isn't reproducing. Funny enough I had a go a couple of days ago with the Moog bass sound from Maschine, the Moog bass sound from my old Yamaha DJX synth and the bass from my Moog Sub37. The Sub37 had a low end that the app and the DJX couldn't replicate. It rattled the room. I also compared a Sub37 to the Mini Moog at my local music store and the Mini Moog sounded brighter than the Sub37 but they both had that low end rattling and shaking the room sound. For me? Got to love the real thing

[@BeansMaskSheen]

the model D either has more of a "feel" for you or rather..the model D just sounds so much warmer with more articulations and seems to be more expressive, natural, and musical sounding. The single note test is where the Model D really stands out as the ipad version sounds cold, fake, and toy like.

[@iagowski]

good! good video. it has helped me a lot. I have a problem with the potentiometers on ipad with garageband or minimoog. If I put absolute in the midi control center it never remembers the value that it shows on the screen and always starts from the one that the knob has. If I move the knob with the screen and then manipulate the Arturia, it jumps to the position in which I left it with the Arturia previously. If I use relative it stays in some locked values. I would like to configure the knobs so that they send only to increase the value of the knob or to lower it. thanks for any help!

[@aliciabutler5108]

I prefer the original but the app is also great! Awesome video!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Alicia Butler Thanks! :-)

[@MilezAwxy]

There's a difference, even though the app version sounds a bit similar. The hardware Mini Moog has a rich harmonic texture as well as the low-end. Warm creamy analog texture!

[@davidlawrence9091]

They play rather well, together!

[@DutchBigEd]

Very nice comparison, but the app sounds so much shallower as the "real thing" (considering the crappy PC speakers on my desk) but still I wonder if there a difference sound-wise between the iPad version and the PC version?

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! The PC version is probably closer. Cheers

[@epicon6]

Have you tried the Model D app from Moog? That should be much better than the Arturia app.

[@crazylegslife]

how fun was that to play?!!! i wish i had one in my living room... they sounded close a lot of the time but i always liked the original better.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+STEVE LEITNER It was a pleasure to play the original, the glide function really adds a lot of character to the riffs

[@Tom-Lahaye]

The real thing just has more depth in it and also sounds cleaner, but the app is good as it is for the price, and recommendable for those who can't afford the original or model D Minimoog

[@808j3]

Now there is a real app!

[@videosuperhighway7655]

Wow sounds identical. Amazing 😉

[@jonvincentmusic]

To be fair the desktop Mini V is way closer, but the iPad app isn't too bad.

[@mikes062]

That's totally awesome!! now if only I was a keyboard player...😃😃

[@JohanSegeborn]

+mike s Never to late to start ;-)

[@henrikhansson1]

Ah, that original sounds sweeeet! The app is nothing like it... Thanks for sharing!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Henrik Hansson Thanks Henrik!

[@Stargazer88]

I think the original Moog has a slightly softer sound. Apart from that, the app is very impressive.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Stargazer88 Yeah, given how available it is, it's great

[@jayanthkumar7964]

Pls do a comparison with the official MinMoog Model D app!

[@pd1jdw630]

Honestly , they did a really good job on the app. Single notes they were almost spot on. On multiple note ore chords they just cannot replicate the phase shifting the analog moog does. It's that detail what gives it away. But on tonality , they are right on the money. Though the purist in me would rather play a real moog, but my wallet says something differently. Nice comparison btw. I have to admit. Digital apps and plugins are becoming better at replicating the analog sounds, although it's not quite there yet.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Dhr Willemsen Thanks, yeah some of the single notes were really spot on. Cheers

[@martijnspit1733]

Chords are not really possible on the real minimoog... (unless you detune oscillators of course)

[@SPAZZOID100]

Dhr Willemsen minimoog cannot play chords.

[@fraukapitaen7]

I found the first setting very close, but then on the second one, the app still sounded quite well, but extremely mid-focused to me, while the original sounded amazingly deep; widely spread in spectrum. Depending on the other instruments playing along, I can imagine either of them would have advantages in cutting through a live mix (app), or enriching the atmosphere (original - or maybe the app as well, through a booster / valve pre-amp, as proposed by +PoJoWo; great idea, by the way). Nice comparison! But damn, now I want a synthesizer... :D Thank you! \m/

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Frau Kapitaen Yeah, good that you reminded me, we need to try the app through a tube preamp. Cheers

[@thorinbane]

For some reason the Imoog just sounds dead, doesn't have the overtones of the real one. Great comparison and the app is cool, but Analog is way more noticeable here than most solid state vs tube amp. I can only imagine in person it is even more noticeable.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+thorinbane Yeah but on some sounds I think the app is good enough. Cheers Johan

[@eddenglish8803]

My mini moog has/had the same yellowing in the keys like the one pictured here. I did buy NOS keys for mind... but mine has to go back in the shop.... age sucks

[@nomad1517]

I mean, for the price, id take the app any day. But if nothing beats the real feel of a instrument, something about owning one, and playing it live, is just something else. Software is a life saver, but if you can afford it, and are willing to move that tank around, its worth the effort.

[@therover4428]

The app is not bad... but the original mood is faaaaar better. I love mini moog.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+The Rover I agree, Cheers

[@RichardStJohn-zz8or]

Best heard with eyes closed, and very difficult to tell the difference!

[@00DirectorsCut00]

I have the app and it's amazing but the charm of the physical vintage one is out of question 👍

[@fattigmanskultur]

You should compare the original with the newly released moog model d.

[@JohanSegeborn]

That would be interesting indeed

[@hammondvoodoo9555]

If the settings were dialed in the same way (apart from some off-tune examples) then the app shows the typical weaknesses of all copies I've heard so far. The real D sounds edgier and richer. There's something to the basic tone of the oscillators that is fundamentally different in a superior way. The app doesn't come even close to the famous Moog ladder filter (surprise, surprise!) and that alone is a huge deal breaker because you could also use it for other instruments (especially in a recording situation). The sonic sweet spot of the original is much wider. Every copy misses the interaction between the player and the instrument which is an integral part of what makes playing the real D such a great experience. The reissued version is even better than all three versions released in the 70's by the way. The additional LFO allows vibrato sounds while using all three oscillators.

[@RoelCyborg]

Wo Thx for showing Johan , Now i heared how good a real Moog is the real Moog does sound great , like a guitar with depth and playing nuances ,the iPad app is just a flat image of some part of its sound,,,maybe useful fiddling around on holiday or during travels then come home to the real thing right ? mm i just bought Native Instruments> Komplete Ultimate ,,, hopefully they have also this Moog sound, how you think this hoolds up though your tests Johan ,, Friendly Greetings from Holland ,, Roeland

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Roel Cyborg Thanks Roeland, that's very well put. I haven't played any Moog simulations from Native Instruments yet though I'm afraid. Cheers Johan

[@mightymike1978]

@Roel Cyborg: What do you say about NI Monark then, after using it for a while? Seems to be more moogish than the arturia, or what is your impression?

[@MajorTom719]

What did you use to connect the M-Audio (Axiom 25?) to the iPad? I may have the same one...

[@JohanSegeborn]

+tom719co it can be connected with a USB cable and a USB-lightning adapter. Cheers

[@KNHSynths]

As Bob Moog said it when asked why he gave Arturia the authorization for using his name : it's quite good and very near, _but no cigare...._ (meaning here that as good Arturia software can be this will never replace the sound of the true machine, he was speaking about the Modular and not the Model D but he was certainly thinking the same). I've got Arturia collection and the Mini V is really a good emulation on PC, I don't know if there's a difference with the Apple implementation, this is good, but this is definitively not the feel of the Mini Moog. This is clear hearing the samples in the video. There is some magic with the Moog, something hard to tell but making a huge difference. One day perhaps... a true emulation, with the cigare ... !

[@KNHSynths]

That's right. Emulations are good enough now to have some fun and Arturia's are really capable. But you don't have $100.000 worth of synths, you just have the _illusion_ to have it ... If you have real synths you can compare the sounds and all emulations are close but no cigare... Even digital things like Roland D50 are not exactly sounding like the real machine. Roland emulations are really good. Their SH101 or System 100 are astonishing. But when you compare side by side, something is missing. So all depend on the use of such emulations. To create piece of music with multiple tracks, effects, etc, they can be really wonderful. On the contrary if you "think" or "believe" you "have" the real beast and try to play it alone just for the pleasure, you'll not reach the same pleasure level than with the real machine. As music is pleasure and emotion, the most important is to get pleasure and feel emotions, the way to get there has finally (almost) no interest !

[@KNHSynths]

Something seems not logical to me. If you don't care an emulation is sounding the same as the original so why using an emulation ? There are tons of excellent and original VST (Dune 2, Nemesis, Saurus, etc). These softwares are not attempting to emulate a true hardware, they just try to sound good and some succeed very well. But if I use a SH101 copy I want it to sound like a SH101 not like a cheap VST. Roland emulations are not the worst, perhaps the best, but even in this case this is not sounding like the hardware. So _there is no problem using VST instead of expensive hardware_. _I'm using both and I love both._ But all those emulations are a trap. They don't sound like the original. And this is a problem for me. But as I said it, in a complete track with effects nobody will hear the difference. The main problem is just when you play for example the Arturia Mini Moog thinking _it is_ a Mini Moog. This is not the sound and the feeling of a true Model D. And it could be different but better, but it is different because the sound is lacking the most important, the soul of the real machine, the specific grain, particular way to react, etc. Nothing bad since you're aware of this problem and not thinking "I'm playing a Moog Modular !" when using Arturia Moog Modular, no you're playing something different that has not the soul of a Moog 55. Don't even close. But you can use it, it sounds quite good and you can have a lot of fun! Finally it is just a problem of coherence and consciousness. Since you know it is not the same, if you're having fun, that's right. But you can't claim these emulations _are_ a Mini Moog, a Model 55, a xxxxx. They are not. They are something different. One day perhaps emulations will sound exactly the same. The day you will feel the same pleasure when tricking a virtual filter knob than when tricking a true Moog filter, the problem will be gone...

[@KNHSynths]

Bob Moog has been asked for why he gave the authorization to use his name, and he concludes explaining clearly because "close but no cigare", arturia is affordable, can help you enter modular world, can give you hours or fun, but if you want to get the exact emotion of a real Moog you have to buy one, the emulation will not give you this emotion. For him it was clear there's absolutely no competition, arturia emulations are another world. A world that is not bad or good, just another world far from his own. I can't find again this interview, I never supposed I'll have to use it as a proof in such a discussion, so you have to trust me (or be luckier than me and find it !).

[@KNHSynths]

I was just asking about the paradox I pointed, you don't have to justify your choice. I'm not judging you. My own reasons were very different from yours I suppose and concerning Arturia collection you'll be certainly surprised but it was an error like some other purchases. When you have the money to buy something without testing it too much you make some mistakes, and I'm fine with it. Once that said I'm like everyone making music I like to be teased by new sounds, so I also have more than 1 Tb of sample libraries or many kinds I bought, using very few but hearing some time to time to get some ideas. Arturia is one source of inspiration like the others, there are tons of presets and sometime playing a sound you discover a melody, a chord progression. And it is really cool. And with the time the Arturia Collection has been improved. For example their Arp emulation is quite interesting. The farfisa is able of very cool sounds (that has nothing to do with a real farfisa sounds but that's another story, or no, it's all the story here !). The Moog emulations (modular and mini) are certainly not the best of the collection. To be frank I rarely use any Arturia emulation in a final mix, I'm always ending with other VST or real synths. I have no absolute conclusion about this but that's the facts. I don"t like their pianos (being wurtlitzer, rhodes or classic) I've some sample libraries that are sounding far better and more realistic. The synclavier is a joke, it was famous because of resampling, like the fairlight, but this feature is not implemented. Today the synclavier is just sounding like a bad emulation of a DX7, historically it is a relic of a transitory technology. I prefer to use the free Dexed VST to get a good DX7 sound. or the FM8 . The oberheim matrix is not that bad but I was not a big fan of this machine even when it was first released. I loved the oberheim SEM and the 4 and 8 voices versions that were real great synths. The Arturia SEM is a good emulation, being very capable and generating interesting electronic sounds. But it is not sounding like a true SEM (no more no less than for the Moog synths). And voilà... This was a mistake, now there are sometimes some interesting things to get from the Arp, the Sem or the farfisa. So I'm buying updates. It is just one tool among others. I'm not sad to have it, it is just what it is. I have other VSTs I'm using very often because they have a great sound and don't try to imitate anything. Else I'm using Moog and Roland hardware synths. Arturia collection is not a bad product, they did a good job, but at no time I'm thinking one second I'm playing a true Moog, a true Oberheim or a true 2600 when I'm playing an Arturia emulation. And I never felt the emotion I had or can have with the real synths. As I was concluding each time, music is emotion and pleasure, no more no less. And the way to be pleased, to feel emotions has no importance, only the resulting emotion has a value. If you feel right with Arturia emulations that's fine, I love when people are happy. I even know some people who have great fun with incredible things such like guitars or drums, so why not a Model D emulation :-)

[@DMC-mp9sx]

App sounds daaaarn good, but yeah I hear the harmonics, overtones in the real deal. I do think the app could get a little closer if you detuned a little and make a little less bright perhaps.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

There may never be an app that beats the real thing, but Arturia definitely pushed the "envelope" with this one,What controller are you using here, Johan?

[@JohanSegeborn]

+ShreadTheWeapon That's an M-Audio Oxygen 25. Cheers

[@thorinbane]

Didn't know you played the Keys too

[@JohanSegeborn]

+thorinbane :-)

[@galactagog]

very interesting!! you should do an original minimoog D vs voyager vs reissue minmoog D!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+galactagog Thanks! Yeah, I'm planning to one of those too here on the channel

[@geoffk777]

The original sounds a little better, but it's very close. In a song, where the Mini was drifting out of tune, the softsynth might actually end up sounding better. What's amazing is that now Moog themselves have a MiniMoog iPad app that much better and closer than the Arturia one. I suspect that if you redid the comparison with the new Moog app, they'd be very hard to tell apart.

[@jacknarly8252]

the real minimoogs oscillators aren't tuned together in some of the examples. i never did like any sounds where the oscillators weren't all on 0. It sounds out of wack to me when not tuned.

[@Arperture]

Arturia has a bad habit of abandoning it's apps. iMini has been around forever and doesn't play well with some of my DAWS now (AUM). I wish Moog would pull the license from Arturia and recreate it themselves, like they did with the amazing Model 15 app. It isn't quite a real analog Model 15 but the sound is much much closer than the iMini is to the MM.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+ChasingDogma Thanks yeah compatibility is crucial

[@alexrafter]

The iMini sounds great, even if it’s not 100% the same. If you are a hobbyist it’s just the ticket.

[@JanPBtest]

I suspect a lot also depends on the quality of the sound card in your computer. I don't know how good iPad's cards are.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+JanPBtest maybe we can do a comparison between the IPad app and the best Minimoog Software on any platform

[@mattb4010]

I think I'm in the minority but I like the app better. It has a more contemporary sound, the hardware one sounds sort of stuck in the 80's sonically. I will admit that you can hear a lot more power in the hardware one though. It looks fun as hell to play

[@JohanSegeborn]

It was indeed

[@josecarlosdavila1663]

Any chances on comparing the Korg Apps with its analog counterparts?

[@JohanSegeborn]

+José Carlos Dávila Yeah, we can do that. I love the iMS-20 and the iPolySix. Cheers

[@CountZero78]

Whilst there is little difference, though the minimoog 1975 sounding a little better. I can bet that if you were listening to in person it connected to an amp, it would blow your socks off. Remember you are listening to an analogue synth but having the sound digitised and replayed digitally via your tablet/phone/computer so it has lost the analogue warm sound that you would normally hear in

[@dksonemanband7211]

Cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+DK's One Man Band Glad to hear it!

[@MotneNielsen]

To me it sounds as if you didn't detune one of the OSC on the real Moog.. this makes the Ipad version sounds bigger !

[@erickrodriguezramirez8256]

I prefer the analog warm sound of the 1975 minimoog. But the app it's not bad.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Erick Rodríguez Ramírez Thanks Erick, the app works great for Techno and Trance.

[@undertree5671]

It is just matter of time until apps will sound the same

[@johnvcougar]

The hardware device sounds superior in many ways in my cans. Warmer, fuller, I closed my eyes and easily picked the analog version each time.

[@polbecca]

The original has some hard to define but noticeable differences. It has a kind of latency, as though the filters had to be charged up each time a note is played; the app is very immediate. The original also seems to have a richer harmonic quality, more overtones perhaps, but at the same time it doesn't sound as trebly, as though its circuits are bleeding away the highest frequencies.

[@mschorer]

The Minimoog sounds much more beefy and dirty than the App in almost all patches! Always would go for the original. I think your Mini needs some tuning and trimming the key follow of the oscillators. They drift quite a bit. But then again, maybe this is wanted.

[@DaProGamer12]

Well this is different, why did I never see this

[@gabriellandell154]

Which band or guitarist inspires you the most?

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Mago Místico Ace Frehley and Tony Iommi! \m/

[@TheSterlingSound]

Johan Segeborn Tony who? ;)

[@GigiDAmico]

it's important also to evaluate the sound of th e app made by a crap ipad hardware, the app with a good sound card and converter will improve

[@issiewizzie]

how does this compare with the Animoog or model 15 app sound wise

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Issie wizzie I haven't played the model 15, but I've heard it's a great emulation. I really like the Animoog , but since it doesn't have the standard knobs they're hard to compare.

[@bio-3755]

Issie wizzie I

If I had talked that slow I woulda felt asleep.

[@ElCanalDeEzequielMartinez]

Para el músico quizá haya grandes diferencias, para el oído del público no hay diferencias!

[@jaasmac]

The original at 3:55 and 4:36 kill it. Such a great sound.....

[@davidlawrence9091]

Like comparing, a robot to a human?

[@joelmiddaugh8229]

Hey it's Johan in Depeche Mode instead of Beast Mode!

[@dannybrazen]

of course the hardware synth sounds better, but a decent one will cost you $3-5k, whereas the app is $10. It all depends on how much you REALLY want that original sound

[@robertbarcus2008]

Sounds like my old 1984 Korg poly 800

[@alessandroale8126]

i had repaired one of those moog

[@Redhotsmasher]

At around the 5 minute mark the emulator sounds too perfect, it sounds like they forgot to emulate the notoriously sensitive analog oscillators drifting very slightly at random which makes the real deal sound more fat, rich and alive.

[@RorysIrishTour]

back to the 80s!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+RorysIrishTour ;-)