1991 Gulf War: The USS Missouri(Iowa BB) Anti-Shipping Incident | DCS Reenactment

[@matthewwainwright8844]

That scene where the shilkas shoot down the harrier and the flaming wreckage bounces over the buses was like something out of a transformers movie!

[@Llyrin]

When she was recommissioned in 86, MISSOURI already had 4x CIWS. I think the reason she didn’t fire was because the cruiser and RN screening vessels were far enough out that the missiles never got close enough to trigger the CIWS. One went dumb or just plain missed, and the other was taken out by HMS GLOUCESTER.

[@lohrtom]

One CIWS did fire. The on on the USS Jarrett fired on a chaff canister launched by the Missouri. Then Missouri was hit by a few rounds

[@jyralnadreth4442]

One Missile was observed going for a swim. An Iraqi Serviceman stationed with the unit responsible many years later claimed 3 missiles had been fired...nothing was to be gained from such a claim so its possible 3 were fired

[@jyralnadreth4442]

@@lohrtom That was a separate incident my friend 😊 It happened shortly after the missile attack (following day or so) as flashes were spotted on the coast and were believed to be more missiles...they were infact unrelated explosions. The 2 incidents get blended into 1 . You are correct in what happened though...Missouri fired chaff expecting a missile and Jarretts CIWS engaged the Chaff.

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

There was a fact that her flairs may have Interfered with her phalanxes targeting sensors which was later proved when one of her escorts cwis fired at the Missouri when she fired her flairs after the second incoming missile was detected hitting the super structure

[@jyralnadreth4442]

@@c0ldyloxproductions324 USS Jarretts CIWS engaged the Chaff shell while it was still whole as Phalanx determined it to be a threat and engaged as it was in full auto mode (my own theory is it was the chaff shell was fired in Jarretts and the possible missiles direction )

[@CMDRSweeper]

Screw the clouds Cap! The lighting effects on the Harriers as they were getting ready to takeoff were superb, well that was what caught my eyes rather than the clouds :D

[@jjbloon]

Cap, your editing and cinematography keep getting better. Awesome work, some of those shots were incredible.

[@grimreapers]

thxx

[@Sirmellowman]

Caps knowledge of military ordinance is impressive.

[@grimreapers]

Not really, I am very much still learning.

[@ztyy8185]

It was HMS Gloucester who shot down Silkworm missile (incoming towards USS Missouri) with its Sea Dart dart missiles.

[@Goyahkla100]

Missed an awesome slo-mo opportunity at 43:40 thanks to the Shilkas!!! Nice video chaps!

[@schlitzy-1031]

Although the mission didn't go your way it was damn exciting to watch!

[@Pete-ec3qc]

You got the summary wrong for the mission, the ship that shot down the Silkworm anti ship missile was actually HMS Gloucester; a type 42 destroyer (an anti air ship) with the longer range Sea Dart missile. Jingles was on a different ship which was the type 22 frigate you mentioned in the mission summary. The type 22 (a sub hunting ship) was equipped with Seawolf short range anti air missiles. I was a Royal Navy radar operator and a fellow radar operator on my mess deck was on Gloucester during the 1st gulf war.

[@jyralnadreth4442]

Indeed....Had it been a Type 22 Frigate there I am sure the outcome would be the same :) Seawolf whilst shorter ranged was superior to Sea Dart at engaging Anti ship missiles as it was specifically designed for that role (Designed to kill P270 Moskit). They Type 22 with their Type 967/968 Radar with its Pulse Doppler Filtering made it ideal for killing sea skimmers. In a way the Falklands War helped protect USS Missouri as all of the Type 42's missile and Radar issues were stepped on because of Coventry and Sheffield's loss like the Antique Type 965 Radar, Vacuum Tube electronics in the missile, inability to track or engage low level targets etc

[@grimreapers]

Thanks!

[@Sarndel327]

I was referencing the Operations Room video (in the description), which details three incidents including the one with Jingles. The mission CAP created is for the second incident involving the Seersucker launch and the Missouri.

[@petecook8265]

@@jyralnadreth4442 Radar Type 965 had long been replaced by RT 1022 on Type 42s during the Gulf War (T42 B3, which is what Gloucester was, were never fitted with 965). RT 909 and Sea Dart had both been extensively modified in the in between years too making it much more effective against sea skimmers. During the Falklands, Sheffield was lost due to ineffective reporting and detection of the Exocet; Coventry was lost due to Coventry crossing Broadsword's path and breaking 910's lock on the incoming targets, preventing her from firing SeaWolf. RT 965, although older technology, was very capable of detecting sea skimmers. Operating near to hilly terrain made the detection and engagement of aircraft difficult with 965 and SeaDart, which is why the T42 operated in conjunction with T22. Had Coventry been in open sea, she would have been able to to engage the A4s or an Exocet with Sea Dart, even at low level.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Full of action! Another fun one to watch! :) Thanks GR

[@Devydev305]

I just watched The Operations Room video on this like 2 days ago

[@fauxbro1983]

The algorithm does not make mistakes

[@Devydev305]

@@fauxbro1983 nope

[@SoliasSerene]

DCS Graphics has improved dramatically since I started watching the Grim Reapers. Very impressive.

[@redssracer4153]

A Jiggles mention in a GR video?!?! Well in that case, for all the salt miners out there, and you know who you are...😏 All Hail the Mighty Jiggles our Salt Mine Overlord... 😁😁

[@jyralnadreth4442]

He was aboard a Type 22 Frigate Batch 1 HMS Brazen in 1991 and she was present in the Gulf War

[@marcwolvertonphotography2423]

Agreed, I wonder if he knows about this video or not? I guess we'll find out if he cross promotes in next weeks Mingles!

[@AlexMueller1982]

As we have heard by now: No, sadly. Too much going on. *Cough* Wargaming *cough*

[@p4rty60y]

The americans did drop laserguided munitions. the buccaneers lased for them according to a veteran buccaneer pilot

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@Teledabby]

whould a silkworm or other new anti ship missile a real danger for a WWII battleship with some serious armor?

[@grimreapers]

Opinions are divided. I think they would not penetrate the hull

[@leesp2]

The Tacview post mission analysis is great, lets you understand exactly what went wrong (or right!)

[@Thumper770]

The Missouri had a phalanx system installed but the missile didn't get close enough for it to come online.

[@doemacmonkey]

When I saw the Missouri at PH it only had one full CWIS still in place but in its day it had four of the suckers with 360deg coverage, so yeah

[@jyralnadreth4442]

Missouri, Iowa and New Jersey had a set of 4 times Block 0 Phalanx, Wisconsin was equipped with the more reliable and enhanced Block 1......Killing the Missile with Phalanx is questionable for a very specific reason. Phalanx has a optimum (Most effective) weapons range of 500 meters and the Seersucker had a 513kg Warhead....detonating that warhead so close would have risked severe damage to the Superstructure (Mo's belt armour would have shrugged it off but anything above would be wrecked) and killed many sailors with the massive warhead and the liquid fuel that the missile used which could shower the ship . Block 0 would have taken longer to kill the Missile as its rate of fire was 3000rpm compared to its successors 4500rpm. Fortunately HMS Gloucester was able to kill it at range with 2 times Seadart GWS30 missiles. Sailor on both ships witnessed a huge fireball when the missile was hit

[@Uriel77200]

characteristics (1984)Complement1,851 officers and enlistedSensors and processing systems AN/SPS-49 Air Search Radar AN/SPS-67 Surface Search Radar AN/SPQ-9 Surface Search / Gun Fire Control Radar Electronic warfare & decoys AN/SLQ-32 AN/SLQ-25 Nixie Decoy System 8 × Mark 36 SRBOC Super Rapid Bloom Rocket Launchers Armament 9 × 16 in (406 mm)/50 cal Mark 7 guns 12 × 5 in (127 mm)/38 cal Mark 12 guns 32 × BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles 16 × RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles 4 × 20 mm/76 cal Phalanx CIWS

[@mEmEzMaN...]

Ha I like how you used the operations rooms vid link in the description

[@filmonewaldeabsebhat]

This was the most exciting ending to a mission for a while

[@Shooting-Journey-Guy-Mike]

23:30 Tomcat launches a Phoenix with no canopy being displayed on the aircraft. Pilot and RIO be like "This Is Fine."

[@Broncoman-lk2zn]

Somebody give that pilot a GR T-shirt for those three missles!

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@st0atmaster]

@@grimreapers Is it in the post Cap?

[@alejandrogrossi9424]

Hi Cap. The Kuwaity Air Force use A-4, with the leyend "Free Kuwait"

[@grimreapers]

cool

[@Decrepit_biker]

What went so wrong? Were the hornets too far ahead of the CAP and got furred up in air to air?

[@grimreapers]

Couldn't getthe tomcats launched in time. Cat's stopped launching

[@Decrepit_biker]

@@grimreapers is that a spawning issue? Maybe staggering when players try to spawn might help that?

[@voradfils]

It's a shame that Cap's ambitious 10 mile sidewinder missed for some magical reason... nice tone you had there, should've been a hit.

[@grimreapers]

haxx

[@maxcaysey2844]

Love to see this from the Iowa!

[@justauser5817]

either jester tried to eject and his seat malfunctioned or someone is awkward enough to actually eject his canopy at 23:24

[@gr-skil]

Haha!! Despite EVERYTHING going wrong, this was still a really enjoyable mission!! 👍

[@torjones1701]

On her 1984 refit, Missouri received: 4 x 20mm/76 cal Phalanx CIWS; so she would have defended herself. She also had some decoy and chaff countermeasures, but I have no idea how effective those would have been. Is ship armor modeled in DCS, or is it just a stack of hit points? If so, I highly doubt that Missouri would have gone down with that few hits... She was built with foot thick armor meant to take much heavier hits than that.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@dreaminknight]

Lol, this F18 pilot cadett is rather escorting the Silkworms than shooting them down...

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@samuelkoh6974]

Enjoy these videos. Thanks! BTW, what do you say Valley Viewers? Just curious. Thx!

[@grimreapers]

I call them valued viewers because they are highly valued.

[@samuelkoh6974]

@@grimreapers ahhh thanks! appreciate that. love the videos. what you are doing although hard, is much appreciated!

[@Sarndel327]

Thanks for making this Cap. I'm no expert on this but the Iowa main armament appears to be 20nm max range. This ship (?) being used to pummel Iraqi forces who have been moved to defend against sea invasion that was widely publicised by the media. Would in reality the fleet have been half the distance away from the coast to be in guns range, possibly? Great video and it gives a sense of wars being subject to human foibles, and equipment failures, and comms delays adding to the chaos!

[@JF-0052]

Watched the OR as well and it was very good🇨🇦😁

[@erikerice9068]

Were the shock diamonds off the burners on the Hornets always that detailed? Wooow!!!

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

The Iowa class battleships had 4 phalanx cwis, anti missile flairs, radar jamming sweats, 32 tomahawk cruise missiles 16 harpoons, a velocity radar to read the speed of the shells speed for better accuracy and a drone for assisting in main gun targeting, the class was upgraded with these systems in 1980 so yes iowa had anti missile defenses

[@Llyrin]

Missed it by 6 months. The AMRAAM went into service SEP 91.

[@TiramisuCorleone]

I dont know what was going on, but it was very entertaining.

[@CMDRSweeper]

On a different note Cap, another Sunday funday event... Missile interception. Do this on a bigger scale with longer range akin to the carrier stuff, but with just long range slow missiles.

[@Thumper770]

Is this MIghty Jingles approved?

[@bearcatracing007]

How did you get out of the salt mines.......

[@Thumper770]

@@bearcatracing007 you'd be suprised what one can do with a shovel and a rock hammer.

[@redssracer4153]

@@Thumper770 😁👍

[@Springer1-1]

My ex shipmates were upper deck weapon crews on the one of the two type 42s that were part of AAW screen. They witnessed the Gloucester engage the Silkworm that was inbound (Both of them both claim that It probably was going to miss but she took the shot anyway.

[@grimreapers]

cool

[@andypanda4927]

USS Missouri Had chaff & flares. She had 2 CIWS for sure & possibly 4. Some navy type might kn ow. "Operations Room" had interesting vid on anti-ship missile launch at USS Missouri.

[@RGMerkel]

I don't care what anyone says. A Battleship is just sexy and opposing

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@davidlegg8414]

With the two carriers and LHD forming up around Okinawa, could we see a simulation of what the PLA could throw at them if grumpy enough please?

[@grimreapers]

rgr

[@williamhall2386]

Run this one again! This one is cool

[@grimreapers]

more pilots plz

[@williamhall2386]

@@grimreapers well I’m not exactly qualified but I nominate myself as tribute !

[@trottheblackdog]

This was incredible.

[@blackknight5004]

Was the lead carrier called "kamchatka" by chance?

[@timaerialphotofraser9050]

Absolutely awesome... I would love to join a flight with you guys.

[@whousley]

Y'all need to make another attempt at that one.

[@SilkyBadger]

20:03 Yes Cap they certainly do, would you be so kind as to share the cloud setting and time of day please?

[@grimreapers]

Oh blast, no idea sorry I just selected one at random as was in a hurry...

[@SilkyBadger]

@@grimreapers No worries Cap, thanks for replying, am always amazed when you do as you must be insanely busy judging by the amount of content you put up regularly. Keep up the great work!

[@jyralnadreth4442]

HMS Gloucester Type 42 Destroyer under Captain Phillip Jones took out the Missile Cap ;) According to a former Iraqi serviceman there were actually 3 Seersucker missiles fired at Missouri's group. An Aircraft spotted 1 that splashed into the sea harmlessly and the other heading for Mighty Mo. The Serviceman didn't have anything to gain by lying about an event 10-20 years before so its possible 3 were fired and considering how crude Seersuckers are compared to even the first Harpoons its entirely plausible

[@grimreapers]

thxx

[@mikeck9946]

Most Laser guided bombs were dropped by F-111s, A-6s and F-15Es. There were F-14Bs but they had not been equipped to drop LGBs. They would drop the first in 1996 and were used as strike aircraft in Desert Fox and - most famously- Kosovo/ Serbia 1999. Aim-120 was first used in 1992 I believe.

[@grimreapers]

thx

[@mikeck9946]

@@grimreapers i DIDNT know that the F/A-18s could not self-lase with LGBs. I would have thought they would have ATFLIR but apparently not until a couple years later..

[@mikeck9946]

great mission BTW

[@artonline01]

As the Brits would say this took 'Skiwl"

[@ryansmail3877]

Why didn't the ships have CIWS and SM2 like they did in real life?

[@grimreapers]

Disabled them on purpose to see if we could stop the missiles ourselves.

[@Caktusdud.]

Someone tell rhe mighty jingles to come hear.

[@thecanadianflyboy1015]

Just saw the snowbirds and 3 cf-18 hornets and the blue angels in the super hornet in London Ontario the only show in canada and they kicked ass

[@granulesackes4354]

great job

[@angelarch5352]

Kuwait airforce had A-4 skyhawks back then btw

[@wanhapatu]

Best mission ever. And best looking mission ever!

[@paladamashkin8981]

I was wondering why the ciws did not activate on Missouri

[@grimreapers]

I disabled it, wanted the planes to have to intercept the missiles

[@petecook8265]

In reality, although Gloucester took the shot, the Silkworm had already bypassed any targets and was outbound anyway and was no longer a threat.

[@HAL_9001]

I think this was the incident where the coalition fleet was so overzealous with the CIWS that they wound up shooting one-another's chaff clouds and hitting each other. Maybe in this alternate history they had to VID the missiles as their ROE and that's why they didn't fire? Anyway, @1:07:47: That's what she said...

[@VirtualGamesPlay]

good job! like

[@WilliamBrothers]

That was exciting

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

Awww it wasn’t an actual iowa

[@grimreapers]

well spotted.

[@c0ldyloxproductions324]

@@grimreapers was there not a working 1980s refit iowa mood to use

[@Thumper770]

You couldn't lock them cuz you're master arm switch is off. LOL

[@tinroxsasbendi3803]

42:00 bullshit fight :)

[@cshader2488]

Damn guys, drop your stores!

[@jeskosmos]

nice

[@sulufest]

@36:56 LOLZ 😂

[@yahitzamuniz9055]

Idea modern aircraft land on old carriers

[@crankthetank3581]

Yaaay, been waiting for this one for a while

[@dannyliu214]

Can u do a Chinese Cg vs British cg?

[@grimreapers]

maybe

[@lennyjei806]

40:00 and on is called: Cheating, Cap;)

[@Thumper770]

It would be great if you could use an A-10 from a carrier. ROFL

[@grimreapers]

agree

[@Uriel77200]

So the Gulf War Battle ship Missouri -is- modeled??? Wow. Add this to the us carrier group and rematch the Russians!

[@grimreapers]

Nope that was a Russian stand in I used.

[@lelouchjoestar1008]

15:23

[@redssracer4153]

SuperCap, constantly putting "challenging" situations into his missions... And also the "Oops" at 15:38... 😏🤣

[@JohnSmith-rr1oc]

Victory for the Iranians!!! Well done. You under estimated the enemy.

[@funkytownjedi]

😎😎😎

[@rodbey9318]

Yeah, 91' if it's period correct need to program in a 24 hour superwood. No viagra. No throblem

[@alanmoffat4454]

SEA ASETS IRAQI TRIED TO GO TO IRAN WHOS GOT THE HELOS IN OP JUST HALF THE JOB BUT ITS FUN .

[@baglad]

mfw cap calls me a valued viewer :)

[@maxmainacc3480]

yo anyone noticed cap saying more bad words than any of his other videos?

[@keithwaterhouse2845]

Yes, he gets worse daily. I'm thinking it's time to move on.

[@RorihTheToken]

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