MVP Battle - Kevin Garnett vs Tim Duncan! Wolves @ Spurs March 2003

www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200303210SAS.html
KG: 24p/18r/8a/5b/1s 12/21 FG
TD: 29p/12r/3b/2a/1s 12/21 FG 5/6 FT

[@legarcon8602]

“Got you.” “Ooh almost.”

[@왐마-n6s]

😂😂😂😂

[@Andrew-xq8og]

Iykyk lmao

[@ocfjavier8145]

The sound the rim made back then 🤩

[@Leo-qe3gl]

Pretty loud😂

[@sweeps42]

@@Leo-qe3gl county fair rims

[@영차영차-i1z]

6:38 KG's dunk was so powerful, it broke the video!! And he lost his finger brace!

[@Daveyjdigital]

🔥🐺

[@Manufan-og1xg]

Top two PFs the game has ever seen. If Timmy and KG aren't on your PF Mount Rushmore, you don't know NBA basketball.

[@rooseveltdarbey9493]

These two Charles Barkley and Karl Malone, with Moses Malone and Giannis right behind them.

[@rastafarri4953]

@@rooseveltdarbey9493moses played center

[@ripdeth]

@@rooseveltdarbey9493 Giannis is already the 2nd best PF all time. Better resume at this point in his career than all of them cept Timmy.

[@boggsmalinao]

I got Mchale too

[@edwells4769]

@@boggsmalinao Nobody in these comments ever watched McHale play and probably don't even know who he is. Best offensive post player of all time. I'll put him at the 5 spot

[@torpedospurs]

After this game the Spurs went 12-2 to close the season, catching the Mavs for best record, and in the playoffs went 16-8 to clinch their second championship.

[@irvingzeistman9828]

Pretty wild , I graduated high school in ‘03 and now I’m gonna be 40 this year.

[@T0N3M0n3y]

Miss this era of the NBA!! No one’s complaining about being fouled! Refs aren’t blowing the whistle, every time there’s contact! At this point they’re playing “flag basketball” in the NBA.

[@cbtrece76]

I miss this type of basketball. Great defense, passing, rebounding, offensively fundamental. So many games in the playoffs now are being won by blowouts. Games being decided in the last two minutes are becoming more rare every year. It makes for a weakened product. I was blessed to see Jordan in his prime, among so many other greats. The competitiveness of the 80’s-2010’s was amazing.

[@neoaliens8635]

That's why NBA back then was fun to watch. Both players were competitive and focused on helping their team to win, but if they were playing in today's NBA they would've both been fouled out by the end of the 3rd quarter!

[@woo_shynen8805]

Facts. I was born in 04 but kg has always been my favorite and the 2nd 3peat bulls -2009 era of basketball was an era I wish I was around to see.

[@cgfit5182]

Thank you NBA for introducing the hand-checking rule in 2004. That ruins a lot of players like introducing more injuries.

[@pipjersey8303]

they also would have just shot too many 3's

[@anthonyl9784]

​@@cgfit5182But James would thanks that very much

[@kevinyoung7934]

Man these were the days!!!! Great Match ups every night in the paint KG, Duncan , Webber, Dirk, , Even Karl Malone even though he was getting close to the end.

[@Mmmmmmmm8159]

Don’t forget Sheed Elton brand Pau jermaine O’Neal amare there’s so many more guys around this time

[@edwinafamefuna4383]

Best era in the NBA. Way more talent than Jordan's and LeBron's NBA.

[@woo_shynen8805]

@@edwinafamefuna4383no way. Jordan's era had the celtics lakers rivalery and greatest era for big men. Lebron's era (modern era) had all time great squads like the 2017 warriors, 2013 heat, 2014 spurs and even the 2019 raptors.

[@edwinafamefuna4383]

@woo_shynen8805 You are just naming great teams. What about players?

[@eugeneevangelista8073]

Jermaine O'neal and KMart too

[@alexboche1349]

Didn't know KG was such a good passer!

[@benjaminsmith2287]

KG liked passing more than shooting IMO.

[@jasonbabilonia3037]

So unselfish

[@ripdeth]

Check out Duncan @3:24

[@XChronicHash]

It's crazy how they were both in their primes, along with other elite power forwards, Webber, Dirk, Gasol, JO etc

[@LamelKendrick]

SHEED

[@woo_shynen8805]

@@LamelKendrickyup. Dude was a Killer. Was one of the few fowards from that era who could stretch the floor alongside dirk and Kg

[@Riles3152]

@@LamelKendrick Sheed was arguably the most talented out of that entire list of names. Dude could have and should have been a HOF.

[@maxcaulfield5997]

gasol and jermaine oneal weren’t considered elite and forgot sheed

[@maxcaulfield5997]

and Amare stoudamire

[@ThekammKillo]

Two of the best Power Forwards to to ever lace them up.

[@colton6867]

The two best honestly. They're just so far ahead of their peers defensively.

[@aircablenetwork8581]

@@colton6867 ...most forget that. Great observation.

[@derickgarbutt3230]

Kg midrange was automatic and he was great rebounder and passer

[@ziginaigra]

and defender

[@princeprince9227]

Damn this game is more intense then the nba finals today lml

[@mikeyfocus3845]

I wonder how people would rate KG’s legacy if he’d come into the NBA playing for an elite coach, alongside other all-star teammates and a top organisation

[@hmhm856]

Popovich wasnt considered an elite coach when Duncan entered the league

[@ziginaigra]

i rate him over td even now lol,because td just had better team and coach+kg was better rebounder and defender

[@edwells4769]

@@ziginaigra KG was a more versatile defender, could guard 1-5 in his early years. Duncan was a better 4-5 defender and a better anchor. He was also elite for longer (should have won DPOY in 2013 as well as 3 straight in 2000-2003). Rebounding is a wash.

[@m-jay356]

oh shut up! no reason to discredit one player to swing from the nuts from your favorite. Duncan was the Spurs their dynasty began when he got their so your point is nonsense. just a hater spewing shit

[@linh811]

TD made Pop, just like Tom made Bill

[@krlm2280]

Robinsons final season got a ring went out like a boss

[@D-Rizzle653]

Love when you shoot and you are in your rhythm, and it’s one of them ones where feels smooth and the ball hits the back of the rim and just goes Doong!! And goes straight down, like not a swish but bounces straight down after hitting bottom of the rim!

[@Tommy_Montana]

I never thought there was much of a Gap between Timmy and KG. This game at least early on looked like a clear difference of who was able to impose they will on the other one.

[@yournoasshole]

Bro kg had the better game, same fg, more rebs, more asts, more blks.

[@ziginaigra]

there is no gap,they have almost the same stats

[@mtbplus4479]

who u got

[@leogarza95]

I can think of one stat where they have a sizable gap...........​@@ziginaigra

[@Kickingit06]

Duncan's game was completely polished. But KG was able to absorb the punches and grind out the W in this one.

[@zennihilator3724]

How? KG better shooter, more range, better handles, better face-up off the dribble game and better passer... Duncan was just stronger and wider which allowed him to play with his back to the basket and absord contact better around the paint, but i don't know how that made his game more 'polished'...

[@ArcadianGenesis]

​@zennihilator3724 Tim had more post moves and better foot work. He always knew how to get to his spots, and he had a move and countermove for every situation.

[@zennihilator3724]

@@ArcadianGenesis Perhaps, but to me the key factor was that Duncan simply had more mass, which is an essential component in being able to establish beneficial position down low and finish through bumps and contact... Garnett was simply too skinny to pound down low which was the meta game in the late 90s and early 2000s when KG was at his peak... He was probably 25 pounds lighter than Duncan and generally built like a SF... Hence why a lot of KG's arsenal of post moves featured various set-ups that ended in a tournaround jump shot... His ability to use footwork and spin over either shoulder and shoot effecitvely over the defense was better than Duncan... But he didn't get nearly as many easy opportunites to score down low like Duncan could with his mass, which is why ultimately Duncan was able to be more efficient. It was not necessairly because he was more 'skilled', it's just he was better built for the inside game and developed the post moves and hooks shots to complement it, which Garnett couldn't because he couldn't get in deep enough positions to use hook shots etc. I think if Garnett was in his prime in like the mid 2010's, when the game moved away from a slow-paced post-centric offense with 2 Big man on the court, to a game with more space, more pace we'd seen an even better version of him... Which is scary to think, because this dude won the MVP in 2004 playing a brand of basketball on offense that left a lot on the table for a guy with his skillset.

[@marcoplaystation2314]

@@zennihilator3724i totally understand this whole thing. Great way to put it man.

[@yournoasshole]

​@@zennihilator3724agree, kg is better in all aspects, duncan is pretty basic robotic but had the better system and coach

[@cameronching9403]

If KG have gone LA over Boston, he could have won at least 3 or 4 Rings. Him and Kobe would destroyed the League with Defense and Offense. From 2008 to 2014 would be their reign. KG would have been a top 3 Power Forward of all time.

[@doodooclowney1518]

Two of the absolute best going at it.

[@nader91]

0:32 this is the moment where i picture tim duncan talks trash to KG like he told in an interview before "oooh almost"

[@PIP...33]

WHEN HWE HAD ADMIRAL TO SPAACE HIM FLOOR EASY TO SCORE. WHY HE DIDNT WIN 2008 AS AN CHAMPION FROM YEAR 07 ?

[@NEGROMONKEY-vc6qm]

Wagon timmy dumbcan@@PIP...33

[@TheIcemanthomas]

@@PIP...33u can’t be that dumb

[@timatkinson9291]

Two great players. KG always fun to watch. Just a no nonsense player. Went out and did his job. Finally won a chip in Boston but, his Minnesota years were great!!!

[@user-hn2wq6en5f]

Miss this era of basketball when superstars guarding each other. Man KG's mid range is insane in this time.

[@LaboyMoto]

Duncan is pure fundamental while garnett is more on low post and posterize classic game! Both are beast in their prime 👍

[@Hopper830]

Timmy was just on another level.

[@Emem2020]

he just had better teammates around compared to KG.

[@Hopper830]

@@Emem2020 Casual

[@MR06174]

NBA Western Conference was stacked with all star power forwards during this time

[@erick1612]

二十年前的精彩比赛，致敬我们逝去的青春！

[@urunclebwn]

4:00 always gives credit to his team, that's why The Big Ticket is a true Hall of Famer and a true champion.

[@nathangarza131]

Duncan was more athletic then people think not like kg but still good enough

[@edwells4769]

This was before his major knee injury

[@ArcadianGenesis]

​@@edwells4769Actually no, Tim suffered a torn meniscus in 2000. That's why he missed the playoffs in 2000, and he considered parting ways with San Antonio when his contract expired. Then he made one of the best recoveries from that injury ever, re-signed with the Spurs, and the rest is history.

[@featherthatbass]

Amazing quality - thanks for posting!

[@MDBBall]

👍

[@justinbires6283]

If this game would've been played today both of them would've had 40 points and 6 fouls lol

[@BSABD315]

i use to think timmy was so overrated but looking back he def was not

[@alchitran]

he was never overrated.

[@ziginaigra]

@@alchitran he is they say he is best pf all time lol he played more games as center than as pf lol

[@alchitran]

​@@ziginaigrabeing overrated comes with hype. TD was never hyped, media in general never talked about him EXCEPT when it's time to talk about the greatest or best of all time or hall of fame discussions. And yes he PLAYED as a center MOST of the time SINCE david robinson retired, but his natural position was already determined and he was already in the discussion of greatest PF of all time before his time playing as a center MOST of the time.

[@rooseveltdarbey9493]

Minnesota couldn't get any big free agents to come to help Kevin Garnett, until Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell.

[@MentalStillness]

McHale was a mediocre gm

[@troylee4196]

​@@MentalStillnessMinnesota was a Medicare team Saw what happened after Garnett was traded, not until Ant have they become good

[@juanfranciscosantana4793]

MR .FUNDAMENTS Tim Duncan 🎩🎩

[@D-Rizzle653]

Whooaaa! Damn KG tried to send that into the Stratosphere with that Swat! Lol, I miss them days NBA was so good back then and KG my all time fave Big Dude, but Tim and him was always a awsome rivalry they both brought out the best in eachother when they gaurded eachother, how he was able to get that bucket n get it up and over KG at full stretch and in the Air too, Damn!

[@anko9777]

oh mama, what a game. thanx Bro!!!

[@MDBBall]

👍

[@PIP...33]

@@MDBBall ALL I SEE ADMIRAL JUMP WITH KG AT BEGINNING AND ADMIRAL PROTECT RIM WHILE KG PLAY VS ADMIRAL AND SOME ROLE PLAYER WAGON IN SUPERTEAM.

[@PIP...33]

@@MDBBall U CAN SEE DIFFERENCE WHY GARNETT IS BEST PF WHEN EVER HE TOUCH BALL PARKER AND MANU SWARM TRIPLE TEAM. MEANWHILE DUNCAN FACE HIM 1 ON 1. LOOK HOW GREAT WOLVES TEAM IS TROY HUDSON SZERBIAK PEELER DEAN GARRETT. WHOEVER THINK DUNCAN IS GREAT HAS NO CLUE BOUT SPORT.

[@NEGROMONKEY-vc6qm]

LOL Garnett really played with these dudes ?? I dont even know 1 name in his roster. Who are they ??@@PIP...33

[@PIP...33]

SOME BUST BENCH RATING PLAYERS VS GOAT ADMIRAL, GREAT HOF MANU, ALLSTAR PARKER, AND GUY WHO CANT WIN GOLD VS LUIS SCOLA AND DANIEL SANTIAGO.@@NEGROMONKEY-vc6qm

[@marksines1246]

only timmy is the PF that i’ll put over my favorite player dirk, as a dallas fan that hated him all those years

[@joegrst]

yo, it's crazy how consistent duncan that is. That would drive me insane. I had him and Robinson on a poster, but I was too young to remember anything but the finals games

[@mdgarcia150]

Call me an old head but I prefer this style of ball from back then. Not so reliant on the 3 ball, just good ole fundamental ball. The big man matchups were a joy to watch, and made it more entertaining to watch them earn their points more than all the 3’s that are jacked up in today’s game. The game has changed, it is what it is. Just prefer this era more 🔥

[@jesuswong5119]

Awesome memories of those rivalries. But what do I take away from this? Michelle Tafolla was a keeper.

[@Royal10123]

You hear Garnett “ I’m not bigger than the team” that’s what we missing in sports now

[@jordanlam45]

Wanna see prime TD & KG in 20's era!!

[@stevewilson9778]

Superb quality.

[@MDBBall]

👍

[@Denis-ul2no]

11:21 imagine this not being a foul in modern era, what a league we missed

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

man i miss late 90s early 00s nba, Power fowards and centers were tough, defense was tough, post moves and so much fun to watch tactical games, now its all about shouting 3... nothing more. boring af.

[@rogerfraser1168]

KG over Duncan any day. Duncan had the better team throughout his career, which helped his legacy

[@hardwoodthought1213]

Only player who ever won more than 1 title without an All-NBA teammate and he did it 4 times KG never won a playoff series unless he had 2 20 PPG scorers with him 😂

[@sallymae5893]

Epic matchup. Duncan is the greatest PF !

[@ocampbelltx]

Real battles !!

[@kjo2130]

Man Duncan was different

[@PIP...33]

YEAH HE HAD SUPERTEAM U DERANGED

[@kjo2130]

@@PIP...33 did not in 99 & 03

[@PIP...33]

@@kjo2130 ADMIRAL WAS IN THOSE BOTH TEAMS U DERANGED AND GINOBILI ALREADY WAS SUPERSTAR 2002 CAUSE HE WON MEDAL VS USA !!

[@PIP...33]

@@kjo2130 U REALLY ARE DERANGED !! DO UN KNOW WHO ADMIRAL IS?

[@PIP...33]

@@kjo2130 DERANGED WHY ADMIRAL WAS ALLSTAR 2001 IF HE WAS OLD ?? WHY GARRETT - KG'S CENTER WAS NOT ALLSTAR ?? U DERANGED

[@PersianSelection]

Such a shame KG didn't have better teammates at this point in his career...I am not sure how anyone can rate any PF over KG comfortably.

[@hardwoodthought1213]

Because come playoff time KG rarely elevated whilst Duncan did routinely

[@PersianSelection]

@@hardwoodthought1213 this is 100% false.

[@hardwoodthought1213]

@@PersianSelection KG had 7 30+ point playoff games his whole playoff career, Duncan had 35 KG never won a playoff series unless he had 2 teammates average almost 20. Duncan won a title in 03 almost averaging as much as his 2nd and 3rd leading scorers combined They aren’t comparable

[@PersianSelection]

@@hardwoodthought1213 Don't just cherry pick stats that favor your narrative without any context whatsoever. I can tell you right now, you either know nothing about basketball or you weren't old enough to watch back in the day. Either way, it would be a complete waste of my time to break down how incorrect what you just said was.

[@PersianSelection]

imagine believing "having 20 point+ scores" is the benchmark for measuring how great a team is, esp considering how those Spurs teams were designed/operated. Not gonna waste my time here...

[@therock-cs7sp]

1 vs 5 championships. What do you think?

[@musicalmelodies3595]

KG should of gone to the Celtics earlier. Even he said he wished that.

[@jeviosoorishas181]

KG was the first #1 option big, I literally saw play and guard all 5 positions and literally did everything for his team. There's a reason why he was known as the "Big Ticket" in his Minnesota days.

[@ngarci8040]

Garnett Broke the video with that Dunk @ 6:42 …!!! lOl

[@fitofito1001]

Ginobili is on the way rising to the best player in the world after this season.

[@OrionOodama]

IIRC, the Timberwolves and the Spurs tied their regular season faceoff (2-2). This fourth and final meeting ends San Antonio's mini-winning streak and one of few taints of that strong run into catching Dallas with the league's best record. The Wolves had a brief lead over the Lakers in the first round (2-1). That would be "alarming" if not David Stern announced few days before the start of postseason first round has also become a best-of-seven affair. That series concluded as KG's seventh consecutive first round exit. San Antonio dealt with Phoenix, a Spur headcase (Suns winning regular season match 3-1), with a hard-earned 4-2 series win (first round), then dethroned the Lakers all the way to franchise's 2nd "Larry".

[@bravephiladelphia6300]

I’ll say it again, Jokic would only be good enough to shine prime KG and Tim Duncan shoes

[@MR.UNIVERSISTYLE80]

Peeler was balling

[@TheSub-SaharanAmericanLegend]

Once a Laker in the Van Exel 90's

[@TyTimeIsAwesome]

As a long time Wolves fan, I always wonder if Marbury had never wanted out or if we had drafted Ray Allen instead. KG never had that bonafide 2nd star. It also doesn't help that David Stern hated the Wolves and stripped 5 FRP's for the Joe Smith scandal.

[@chrisplacido4737]

Dang. Sean Elliott has been calling games for 20 plus years now.

[@alvinrayestorninos6118]

I miss the 2000 -2014 era

[@dominiquenewman]

Any Shareef Abdur-Rahim videos? 👀

[@MDBBall]

Hopefully will look to add some Reef clips Dominique

[@DIXIFREELY]

My two favorite PFs of all time. Kevin McCale did KG a disservice when you compare who Tim Duncan play with vs KG. Most years in Min he was the only allstar on that team smh.

[@worldwiderell1812]

Wish KG would've been able to square off against Duncan with an actual team... looking at this game, it's laughable looking at who's with Duncan (Tony Parker, ginobli, David Robinson, Steve Jackson, bowen , etc) and who's with KG (szerbiak, Anthony peeler, Joe Smith lol)... by the time he went to Boston he wasn't the same player

[@winonafrog]

Yes, wild he’s leading nobodies against a roster of Hall of Famers & Pop that’s about to win a chip. Love em both.

[@minnesotafats8140]

Duncan was so sick 😂😂😂

[@lervinsotto2611]

how lucky giannis today. just run and dunk no skills no shooting.

[@ArmandoIlano]

Wish KG had that support like San Antonio had...

[@danks2real314]

bro i felt like i was watching a live game haha

[@troymac4143]

TD simply > than kg.

[@hamzasaraswat3532]

1:53 was a nice play

[@KHRecruit-rh2tu]

We all miss nba without 70% of the time shooting dumb 3s

[@varnaizsolt22]

Duncan is a great player, but for me he was boring to watch, but K.G. had style, his dunks were legendary, and his play was so dynamic. He was fun to watch,KG is one of my few favourites.

[@godalmighty5970]

The score on both jerseys says a DRAW.

[@cinnabar546]

KG can guard 1-5 and is one of the best and most gifted defenders in NBA history.

[@RicoBanani]

battle!

[@booleaninfernusstudios5352]

"Nice try" -Tim Duncan

[@ljvue]

There’s a reason KG was rated 99 in nba2k1. Throw it down, big fella!

[@tylerjacobson8012]

Kg is one of the greatest to ever do it but got damn Duncan was good. Holy shit he was so good.

[@scatsoicy]

KG And Habachi woulda been lit

[@alcendorvalmores8636]

Men kg outplayed right there.. Both offense and defensive.

[@Dotman89]

Those blue Timberwolves jerseys 💣💣💣💣

[@Realistic316]

some youtubers don’t post the date… can you tell us what date this is?

[@SaeedAlsomali-u3n]

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[@raymondlava1076]

Kg is better than Tim for this time

[@troymac4143]

Garnet is an all star but Duncan the best PF of all time period!

[@ziginaigra]

they have same stats lol td just had better team and coach so he win more+kd was better rebonder and defender,td was better 1on1

[@趙興到]

do you have this full game

[@eagle___empire3175]

The year the Spurs rolled the NETS to win another ring

[@marvinfollero846]

Never saw the time when KG played in Min but he seems like a very good teammate.

[@ziginaigra]

best

[@rrogers2370]

David Robinson was still playing??! Wow.

[@dbanks128]

I was always rooting for KG in these matchups, but Duncan usually got the better of him

[@imspzero8730]

From this game, we can see TD is a better player than KG when playing in the paint. KG has the footwork but tends to be a long range shooter. Two great PFs!

[@ziginaigra]

i didnt see that lol,check stats kg had better game

[@jgrullon32]

Ayo what's with that commentator???? Pause dawg. Ayo

[@greenderp]

damn some of that commentary about Ginobili is so disrespectful XD talking like he doesn't belong in the league!

[@denissmiljkovic9924]

clearly a legit ass on that play

[@thenicetroll8759]

Tim ducan teams was wayyyyy better, made the game easier for him when having multiple options

[@antehood_antoni1987]

KG THE BEST!

[@redskullz1249]

There was a time when I thought KG was better than Duncan lol.

[@ziginaigra]

ill take kg over td

[@happyinthehouse9899]

They used to say be “in” a team

[@landrymel6593]

Garnett...the kenyan

[@Willsatx]

KD could never beat Duncan, had to run to the east to win a ring.

[@ziginaigra]

what would td win if he was in minesota and if kg was in san antonio?