2009 (T5) Volkswagen Transporter 1.9L Diesel Clutch Replacement

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[@milchsteak3276]

BIG WARNING TO EVERYONE WITH A LEFT HAND DRIVE!!! It's not as easy to put the gearbox to the side, because the steering shaft is in the way. You have to lower the whole subframe and even then I was only able to get 10cm between the engine and the gearbox. It sucks, but it's possible. Took me about 16h for an LHD vehicle. (No impact wrench, mostly alone (needed help from time to time to press the brake etc) and no experience on cars (I'm a toolmaker)) Otherwise brilliant camera work! Thank you for this tutorial.

[@turbotown]

Thanks for the comment. I am working on a LHD right now. I was wondering, why there is not enough space to move the gearbox aside. Do I have to diconnect more engine parts, like the exhaust? Maybe the engine mounts?

[@milchsteak3276]

@@turbotown No engine parts have to be disconnected. I just took every screw, that's holding the subframe, out. (4 big screws, two in the front and those along the steering mechanism. That's all what I remember after half a year) You have to support the subframe, so it doesn't fall all the way down. Get the frame as low as possible and then try to rotate the gearbox untill you find a position where you can get maybe 10 or 15cm between the engine and gearbox.

[@joliver865]

As a mechanic my self I understand how hard our job is. You just crack on with it, would love to have your patience and skill level👍🏼

[@WMCS]

J .., I personally always value a feedback from someone that’s in this instance the motor trade to share on our forum..,, Thanks for taking time to leave a review...

[@mikeysimpson7268]

Used this video step by step, thankyou!! Took me 2days due to everything being seized, shearing a engine mount bolt and missing afew tools but got there in the end 👍

[@I_Am_Michael]

one of the best clutch replacement videos I have ever seen. great job. if this is how you do work, I certainly hope you are kept very busy. thank you for the video.

[@babelonchabalala1690]

Thanks alot my friend.... This video made things much easier..... Followed every step..... Couldnt get the balljoints to drop and didnt have the patience , so i just loosened the whole control arm to get the CV joints out..... Wasnt sure why u drained the gearbox oil.... Thought it would leak through the CVs but its good thing cause i noticed the oil was dark and very thin already.... So replacing with new oil..... Stripped yesterday so today i will put gearbox back.... Keep up the good work.... Nice detailed video 🎉

[@markenglandle]

Very, very impressive! Thank you! I don't know how you managed to film that lot as you went, but am very grateful. It really helped demystify what goes on down there!

[@WMCS]

Hey Mark. it’s not too bad of a repair. Especially the T5, thanks for the feedback

[@baklys]

Hi, I had to change my clutch, and this video was just great!! I have a 2006 Caravelle, and the old flywheel just fell apart. Your video was just incredible detailed, and I am sure you saved me for 2 extra days of work. The video just covers everything!! You have all my respect as I see that you are doing this for a living, this is hard work! Again thank you for this video, regards from Norway.

[@MrPbrown666]

Watched this video a couple of times and today I removed my gearbox to swap the clutch release bearing as it was noisy . Your footage is spot on and I wouldn’t have attempted it without this. Gearbox was stubborn lining up going back in but I preserved and all good. Panicked when clutch pedal fell to floor but pumped up . All good and no noisy bearing . Thank you for an amazing video …

[@onewhocansea4228]

Nicely done man. Gonna be doing this myself soon. Had the box out to replace a layshaft bearing about 10 year ago. Wish I'd seen your approach then, gonna be easier after watchin this. Respect, thats a fair days graft. 🙌

[@GadgetRebel]

Excellent clutch change and great camera shots.

[@jamesibbo1]

Thanks for this video! I’ve just finished my clutch and flywheel and wouldn’t have been able to do it if it wasn’t for this in-depth video. I had to bleed my clutch after.. not sure what I did to get air in there.. when I first watched I thought “that gearbox must be light” nope! That bloke must be strong! Took every fibre in my body to lift it back on!!

[@drexxore]

My workshop has the sister van (RJ09) to this, not looking forward to this when it finally gives out 😂 awesome video as always dude!

[@MultifunctionKaTech]

Another excellent job. Thanks for sharing. Keep going. Thanks

[@kiamania]

Never seen a clutch like it before, bet it was more expensive than normal. Good job done again.

[@mikec7177]

Just finished my clutch replacement and with massive help from this video. Can't thank you enough for the detailed guide. Saved me £500 + and Aching like mad today though 🤣🤙

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the feedback. Consider a subscribing to the channel 🍻🍻

[@michaelcollins2324]

Just did this for my T5 using your video as guide, way better than using a manual with pixelated or grease-stained pictures. Only difference was some DPF mounting on the gearbox, but it was easy enough to get to. Also used a Sachs instead of a Luk, I know they're are said to be a smoother ride, but so far so good. Really appreciate your channel, and you sharing your skills and experience.

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated

[@danielp9721]

didnt take them long to get it out top man knows what hes doing keep it up

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the support. Much appreciated

[@denissetruquini7305]

Very good, man. Your job is wonderful. The mecanic is My favorite job. Thank you very much

[@WMCS]

Hi Denisse.., really appreciate your support and time taken to leave this review.., thanks.

[@crazyfacejack2520]

Excellent video yet again, mans a true professional!! It's difficult enough on a ramp to do a clutch 👍

[@WMCS]

Crazy Jack ..,, we appreciate the time taken to leave us a feedback..,, I take it you’re in the trade yourself.

[@crazyfacejack2520]

@@WMCS yes mate own a small garage in Lincolnshire, I always watch your videos nice to see someone tackle a car your unfamiliar with just incase I get one in. Very impressed with how you work mate 👍

[@marcw3725]

Awesome video, I've actually booked this guy on the strength of this video to do my clutch, reasonably priced too, look forward to meeting you

[@richieharcourt]

thankyou a very useful step by step guide, i'm halfway thru the job now thanks for your video and it helped identify a few important bits a lot easier to do it your way.....

[@WMCS]

Richie thanks for sharing your own repair experience on our forum. Glad to hear the video are proving useful..

[@gary3029]

Just been quoted £3000 to do what you have just done. Assume it was a we dont want your work quote. Great to see you do the job as most of us have to.... On the drive. Will defintley be doing this myself. Best video out there. Glad I found you.

[@kerem9112]

iCH GLAUBE DAS IST DAS BESTE Video was ich bis jetzt gesehen habe . Ich habe den gleichen t5 und stehe jetzt auch vor dem Problem mit der Kupplung. Aber dank deinem Video habe ich keine Angst mehr davor. Danke 😊

[@TheGreg2710]

My favourite part of a clutch job is getting them lugs sat back on the bell housing at 9-3 o clock 😅 nice job Kev!

[@WMCS]

Oooo that little back cover plate 😂😆..,, Some of them are a right little puzzle 🧩 piece.

[@nickpritch3152]

I've got to be honest that's one the best how videos I've seen in a very long time total pro 👍🏻👌👍🏻

[@nouriaibouroi6953]

Le maitre kevin

[@gandhi1078]

Excellent job, I am contemplating doing this job myself so your video has helped a lot..but like any job it’s easier if you e got the right tools

[@hugoribeiro8437]

Love your job! Wish I could leave every day boring job to do what I love to! Keep up the good work!! 💪💪💪👏👍👍👍

[@WMCS]

Thanks for taking time to leave a feedback Hugo .., we really appreciate that ..,, it’s challenging work but I wouldn’t change it for anything less than this ...

[@thekrecik]

not a word said, no sponsors no bullshit! , no face ! just exactly what is says in the title ! Thank you great content!

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the feedback 🍻

[@asimsehovic1002]

Bravo majstore svaka čast najbolji si hvala ta video pozdrav iz Bosne 🇧🇦

[@salvaprats6072]

Nice job, thanks for sharing!

[@paulmayou370]

great work as ever

[@nailem413]

Respect ✊ you are the best 👏👏👏

[@jemmace2586]

spot on mate! Mines a 1.9 tdi as well, same year too so i'll refer to this when the clutch wears out. Thank you!! just gonna visit your company site now and have a geeze. :)

[@jemmace2586]

I like your website, easy to use and read without any drama's or over complication. Pity i'm up in the North or I'd be passing your site address and number about. We paid £680 last time round to have the clutch replaced, they did a good job outside of the fact the flywheel is slightly out, I think that might be down to me and my driving though?

[@WMCS]

Thanks a lot for the review..,, very much appreciated.., and your feedback from the website was nice to hear. I’ve tried to make it as easy as possible to contact us ...,, how far north are you ...,

[@jemmace2586]

@@WMCS I'm in Liverpool, We had the clutch done in a place called Hindley which is not far outside of Liverpool, Near wigan. I wasn't happy about them driving the car there from my place because the car wouldn't drive, as far I was concerned. The smell from the clutch burning didn't leave the car for weeks after. It's been O.K since, well until after I had to replace the clutch slave and master cylinder a few weeks ago. I hope it carries on as is for a while yet? I assume it will because the engines the 8v and not 16v type.

[@user-nx3eb5ng3n]

Very, very good video, respect.

[@warty5007]

Very impressive thanks for the vid 👏👏👏👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@nono428]

Wonderful job 👍

[@omidmazdab4474]

Well done mate 👊🏽👌🏽

[@jamesward5721]

The "new" Dewalt DCF891 looks to be a beast of a compact Impact Kevin - your gun looks as knackered as mine - it's meant to be a lot lighter & a lot faster. I'm going seek one out this week - lighter is always better. My Dewalt is so tired, the front bearing is now wobbling from the years of abuse, it works, but it's knackered by normal standards. Proper Vid. as always.

[@westawesta9063]

Salut Kevin. Super work comme toujours 👍👍👍👍

[@WMCS]

Westa westa..., salut a toi aussi..,, Merci bient pour votre feedback ....

[@davidcolli5796]

Que buen trabajo saludos .....from cancun mexico

[@SegugioGarage]

very good job mate!

[@WMCS]

Segugio thanks for taking time to leave a review and watching the video.

[@martinjones849]

Another fine job Kevin 👍

[@WMCS]

Martin it’s always great to have your support and feedback. thanks for always taking the time to do so.

[@martinjones849]

Pleasure Kevin I watch your vids and can see your meticulous like me👍

[@srpatnaik4548]

Excellent DIY Video...

[@train4905]

Superb job ad always keV.

[@deanwoodward3702]

Brilliant vid buddy I'm doing mine while watching this tonight/tomorrow, mines a 2004 1.9 so hopefully not to much difference to this year . I watched the 2.5 t5 vid aswell I don't envy you with that one I had one and got rid just because I dreaded the idea of working on it due to no space in the bay .

[@WMCS]

Hi Dean...,, how did you get on with the repair. Honestly mate. The 2.5 are heavy duty work in my opinion 🤩😁

[@deanwoodward3702]

Pretty much done had to order an input shaft seal so that delayed it ,good old amazon next day . Just got to go get a set of wishbone bushes and a pair of inner cv boots in the morning. You've saved the day with this vid I've never done a clutch before and prob wouldn't of bothered without your help . I'll update you on it when I go for the maiden voyage.

[@castrolgtx5064]

Well done thanks for sharing Kev

[@WMCS]

Springier thanks for visiting our channel and taking time to leave us a feedback..,, really appreciated

[@Miner0807]

Thanks for this video. Just doing the same job.

[@Johnsson_Motor]

Perfekt video !!!!! million thanks !

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the feedback Jimmie.

[@fitzanator436]

Camera work is on point

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the feedback ✨✨

[@mig7287]

Good video on how to install a SAC without special tools. I keep learning from you. 👍👍

[@WMCS]

Mi G..,, it’s great to know the videos are helping even in the smallest of ways .., the only function of the special tool is to press on the pressure plate for an even pressure whilst tightening the bolts in a continuous loop. .., but that can be easily replicated by tightening the bolts down in in a star pattern.

[@trucktalkvideos]

Nice one Kevin the clutch ninja.i do these T5 s everyday nearly.but only on a ramp.respect to you.my hero👌👌

[@WMCS]

Fantastic that you’ve got a wealth of knowledge with T5’s ..,, what your take on the 2.5L, 5 cylinder ones ..,, I did one today and it was a solid 7 hours and found the gearbox outweighing me ..,, Probably one of the heaviest box I’ve lifted ....

[@trucktalkvideos]

@@WMCS very heavy kevin.their are 3 of us plus stands but still heavy and i fully remove subframes.so that on your back magic and well done.👌

[@WMCS]

Mate honestly it was a case of slowly slowly catchy monkey 🐒 that one was ..,, 😂😁..,, I mean talk about how much 2 or 3cm matters that was it ..,,

[@trucktalkvideos]

@@WMCS your right there pal.keep up the good work but be careful

[@daniellenc1663]

Seš šikovnej kámo 👍👍

[@user-xi2zo7gh3l]

Спасибо за видеообзор, всё ясно и понятно.👍

[@maxthecaddy8451]

nightmare of a job to do on some vw's, but as always you got it done buddy 👍👌

[@WMCS]

Max I was up in Macclesfield today tackling another one. This time it was the mother ship of T5’s ..,, the 2.5L one ..,,God’s truth the gearbox weighed in my opinion over 70Kg ..,, it got done to the customer’s satisfaction.., the completion time was a solid 7 hours .., it was one of them mind of matter circumstance..,, As long as we don’t mind it doesn’t matter. ☀️😁

[@maxthecaddy8451]

@@WMCS mother ship lol 😂and over 70kg mate and 7 hours work that is some gearbox and no joke buddy, i dont no how you do it👍

[@swms9679]

Superb as always

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the support. Always appreciated

[@deninsrmic4165]

Impressive Kevin, 👍👌

[@WMCS]

Thank you.

[@acidfridge]

thats the whole job for take the gearbox out of the car? I want to change my gearbox. Great work 👌✌️

[@auspuffsofortdienst486]

Respekt die Kupplung ohne Hebebühne zu erneuern!!!!

[@gazzabowers1184]

Another awesome upload, stay safe 😷 tgc Gazza

[@dk2655]

Just done one of these at work today but it was a 4x4, not to bad tbh, if you ever do one the Transfer Box has to come off with the box.

[@luckysmiler]

i like your 1/2 to 3/8 mac wobbly ,bloody dear and special order

[@WMCS]

Mate I’ve had that wobbly and hammer for nearly 6 years now. You’re right it cost a bit .,, but I wouldn’t leave home without it now. Hope things going good your end. And always nice to hear from you.

[@michaelschmitt6926]

Awesome video thx men

[@hurricanhai]

Nice work

[@jpdevilliers2783]

Thank you . I will be doing my van soon these darn dual mass hope to refurbish mine

[@WMCS]

You can’t refurb them as far as I’m aware

[@jpdevilliers2783]

@@WMCS i will be finding out what they do but the dual mass can be drilled and locked to secure unit as a single mass flywheel hope this is not what they doing but will revert back when i have more infomation

[@trymhammerstrmgisiger1278]

I struggeled with getting the gearbox and afterwards the gearbox mount on, but later i found out that the cat or dpf was stuck on the heatshield. The engine was a bit tilted always so everything was hard to er fit. So If anyone struggels to refit, check that! Thanks for video

[@saeedroshan6281]

amazing job man, that was wonderful, you make it seemed nice and easy 👏👏👏 can you make this type of videos for petrol type of Volkswagen T5

[@WMCS]

I don’t think I’ve come across a petrol version before. What engine size is it.

[@jayswin2]

Brilliantly made video. Have done a few golfs and skodas but need to do my T5 soon as its starting to slip in 5th gear. Dude, I love your technique but you've got to find a better way of lifting those boxes than bench pressing them😅😅 Gonna catch up with you sooner or later. Cool to see you dont need to drop the box right to the floor on the T5. Just to confirm, did you just lower the subframe on the one side of the van? Thanks again

[@gegegege7823]

bonsoir bravo bravo bravo excellent travail 👍👍👍👍

[@WMCS]

Merci bient mon Amis.

[@filthyp5032]

have to do this tomorrow for the first time on a t5. too bad our customers car is a four wheel drive... it will be fun i guess. but this will help me a lot. greetings from germany. ;-)

[@WMCS]

Even the 4WD is very straightforward. The transfer box comes out so easy…

[@filthyp5032]

@@WMCS nice to hear this. yeah i think it will be allright in the end. little more screws and thats it. the rest should be pretty much the same.

[@MrJarmo81]

Awsome work. Both making the video and replacing the clutch/flywheel. Im about to do this my self and this video helps alot. You seem to prefer LUK kits. Any special reason? Is the installation same as on other brands like Valeo?

[@Megalocade]

I know vws can be a bit of a nightmare to work on but do like the way they are built, some of it is sensible thinking, especially those drive shafts that bolt up instead of having to pop them out and the hassle of having to clean or replace seals when refitting.

[@WMCS]

Shin you nailed that one on the head ..,, I’m personally a big fan of VW..,, i feel the engineers from over there do keep in mind that at some point these vehicles will need repairing and access in my opinion is something they keep in mind ...,, I did another T5 today ..,, it’s one they’ve stopped producing engine wise. It’s the 2.5l one ..,, what a gearbox shin..,, god’s honest truth I swear it must have weighed at least 70kg ..,,

[@Megalocade]

@@WMCS Yea I agree, personally it's Toyota for me then Vw, being an owner of a 92 MR2 turbo I've really grown to love these imports, granted it isn't the easiest to work on engine wise being at mid point but the rest of it is well thought about, Japan and Germany make the best motors.

[@mechanicalnut7866]

Just did mine a few days before same van and setup wish this video came up before I did it would of been easier took me 6 hrs

[@WMCS]

Thanks for taking time to share and for leaving a review ..,, it’s not a bad one the 1.9,, this one took about 4 hours.

[@mechanicalnut7866]

Kevin-Albert Williams - your skills on other vehicles is brilliant keep it up

[@barratheworld2064]

Love your videos, just wondering if you do more like high performance clutches? Like installing heavy duty style? Would be good to see

[@WMCS]

I tend to keep to original parts ..,, I suppose it’ll be nice to see one being installed..,,

[@user-ox4eu3xi3s]

given how much old flywheel and clutch plates weigh, do you collect them all year and weight them in at xmas? or just give them to your local scrap man or somthing as you go along

[@shadowBanned2023]

Hi what is the red stuff you applied to the new clutch? Also what's that stuff in the bottle that you sprayed on the new clutch? Thanks so much for making this video

[@fouadbgm7452]

Thank you bro

[@Divocwax]

Great visuals. Just spent a few days doing; check CV joints, replace split CV boots, replace one drive shaft, and check notorious splines on my own same vehicle. Now done - using axle stands similar to your set up. So I appreciate what you can do so seemingly effortlessly. It's was a core muscle tone up for me for sure. I found those M8 half-shaft support bearing bolts go into some weak old alloy - one stripped so I bolted straight through. The other had a Screw Thread Insert(STI). Why don't VW just put STI at the start? Seems easy. Not used a rattle gun yet (old guy here) , but how do you control torque with that thing? The different need of a hub nut(200Nm) and those half shaft bolts(25Nm) - big difference.

[@WMCS]

That’s great you managed it all. My impact gun’s range is from 60-1200nm. So it’s important to know the impact point for each nuts and bolts.

[@leored79]

When u stick the bell housing of the gear box back on, can you tell easily if the axle has slipped back in ok? Can you feel it mate properly? Also, if you want to remove the gear box, can get away with just taking out 2 of the U-carrier bolts, or would u have to drop the U carrier from the other side a bit? (Vw says to remove completely)..

[@reloadernorway1042]

Awesome.

[@doglifehub]

Mine's in today for a clutch. On a lift. Either you're super fast and super skilled, or the 5 hours and 20 mins labour I've been quoted is a bit much lol

[@WMCS]

How was it

[@doglifehub]

@@WMCS still in! I'm waiting for a phone call.

[@normhead]

I’ve done a few of these on my back, those box’s are heavy, I’ve always taken the subframe off completely. Think I’ll just lower next time looking at this

[@dmc1221]

Did ya not have to loosen any steering joints on the rack Kevin? That last transporter ya done looked more difficult than this one. Still making light work of lifting them boxes in and out I see anyway lol 👍

[@rrrimve]

Another great video. I was wondering if you could put a list of tools needed for the job in description?

[@WMCS]

Thanks ... I can’t promise to do much more than post videos ..,, but hopefully you’ll stay tuned for more great videos coming up.

[@peterphilipse8792]

This must be cgi. I didnt hear one swear word 🤣 Nice work!

[@WMCS]

😁😆.., all in a days work. Swearing is reserved for the best out there..

[@JJ-sc4uj]

Fair play doing that every day , I'm gurning about doing mine on the ramp 🤣 *Mind and get your van tested stud

[@WMCS]

J J with a ramp you’ll get that done in a matter of hours ..,,, let us know how you get on.

[@tanerdedem34]

Prima

[@BrasherFox]

Great vlogs on the T5 clutch change. I have a Euro5 T6. Is it always necessary to change the flywheel along with the clutch or just good practice? Yes with the thrust bearing but it's a long long time since I changed any clutches, probably a Mini in the 70s.

[@WMCS]

Hi Brian. Definitely change the flywheel as it is the main issue that causes the clutch to slip. Hope the video comes through for you. The 70’s was the year. Long hair high platform shoes 😁🍻✨✨

[@RichardStefanits]

For those who don't have Kevin's built-into-arms torque wrench and his experience, the flywheel bolts torque spec is 60 Nm then 90 degrees, clutch plate bolts are 22 Nm for the T5.

[@WMCS]

Absolutely correct and I will back Richard in saying follow your torque settings unless you’ve built the muscle memory and complete confidence in your ability

[@ricardoalvarez8173]

Excelente muy detallado

[@ricardoalvarez8173]

Excelente

[@jeremytahiti8124]

Hi so do these have a dualmass flywheel or SMF ? Cause i got the 2007 1.9l citivan and need to replace clutch wondering which kit i need to buy… Thanks in advance

[@mxmajola4283]

Thank you Sir🙏

[@WMCS]

No probs MX

[@Statam31]

C'est un chantier 💪🔧

[@kylemclachlan1176]

What is that tool you use to hit the end of the driveshaft?

[@1daisydog1]

I did this step by step watching this on my laptop in the garage . Awesome method !! Question …. I was pretty knackered by the end of the day and got the gearbox nearly out when trying to get it back in but I wonder if you can manipulate it to actually get it out because I need to because I still have an issue I’m fairly sure is in the gearbox ????????

[@WMCS]

Yes very easy. Slacken the other side subframe a bit more and it should come flying out.

[@ayasarikol8909]

Hello my gear pedal stays down end I loose oil dot 4 the leak is at the bolt which connects the gearbox with the engine is it worth to repair it and Wil it maybe leak later again by the way mine is a axd 2.5 2004 respect

[@hughes1011]

Them VW transporters can be a nightmare at the best of times, never mind doing a clutch and flywheel ON YOUR BACK, tell you something, You have my respect. I found these difficult even with the luxury of a ramp especially when you've to cut flywheels out 🙊🙉🙈

[@WMCS]

Thanks as always for the positive feedback...,, It’s always great to hear from someone that’s actually done it and knows hands down what they are on about ...,

[@hughes1011]

@@WMCS i remember the first time we did a clutch, flywheel and gearbox replacement on a T4 Transporter 2.5l diesel. Took us 6 hours to remove the subframe as the tortion bar adjustment nuts were siezed and could not be heated due to being located next to the tank, so after 6 hours of muttering ffs's and breaking 2 22mm sockets we eventually got the subframe out, replacing the clutch, flywheel and the concentric slave cylinder went ok until we fitted the gearbox, we discovered that the old gearbox had reverse beside 5th and the replacement gearbox had reverse beside 1st, after some faffing around we were able to work out that a pin on the gear selector could be held in place with a little tack weld, worked fine but was really easy to put in reverse rather than 1st but we got there in the end (customer didn't want to replace the gearstick and linkages) so that was our little 'haphazard' way around it. Good times, and what's even better is that we could've saved 6 hours as the subframe didn't have to even be touched, turns out you push the engine forward after disconnecting the rear mount and shove a foot long piece of wood against the subframe and sump of the engine and wiggle the gearbox out 😂😂😂 Edit: found out that the subframe didn't have to be removed after doing this job on four T4 transporters

[@ronniebarker79]

What clutch are the best and what the worst clutch kit you have come across

[@khalegr2547]

hello, i always watch your videos and i love them, can you do a video about clutches' mercedes vito 2008?

[@WMCS]

Thanks for the review and support. Next time I have one I’ll be sure to post up a video.

[@ThePolog60]

Super geil gelöst ,, ohne den Rahmen abzu machn ... Geht das a bei DGS cool

[@WMCS]

I would think so. I’ve not done a DSG to be honest.