2016 Toyota Tundra Real World Towing MPG Review: Tundra vs Tacoma

( www.TFLtruck.com )The 2016 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro may be a truck focused on off-road prowess, but it still has a 5.7L V8 engine and a low 4.30 rear axle gear ratio. This makes it a solid towing rig. How does the 2016 Tundra compare to the 2016 Tacoma on the same highway MPG loop when towing the identical 5,600 lbs trailer? Can this Tundra be more efficient? Watch to find out.
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[@JimmyDevere]

Tundra 8 MPG. 2017 Ford F150 at 9 MPG for $64K. I'll take the Tundra. A real V8 and solid drivetrain with 10.5" ring gear and 4.30 rear end.

[@Dive-Bar-Casanova]

And better resale.

[@rxonmymind8362]

Just looked there's a ton of 15k-39k miles couple years old for $34,000! THAT'S a steal.

[@njmaag]

JimmyDevere Since you live under a rock, you must be informed Ford still sells the F-150 with a V8 and it is easier to work on then the Tundra. Plus on top of the fact I’ve seen 200k first gen f150s ecoboost have no issues at all. The ford v8 is bulletproof as well.

[@Billy28376]

Toyota definitely makes a great truck. I just bought a 2019 tundra 5.7 4x4. I definitely trust Toyota. I’ll never buy another ford. Been there twice. Never again.

[@njmaag]

JimmyDevere Ford still sells trucks with a v8. Also easier to work on then Toyota, which for some reason put the starter inside the V. Recently my friend had his diff for his Toyota Tundra break and after whatever fix under dealer warranty he bought they didn’t do it right. Though my friend claims it broke probably from launching it somehow.

[@cdb122980]

I'll take the bad fuel mileage it's a truck the quality that you get out of these trucks are worth it

[@jjkroll32]

Toyota Trucks and body on frame SUVs are very conservatively engineered. With DI, Cylinder Deactivation - including measures to quell noise and vibrations from 4cylinder mode add weight and complexity along with failure points. I applaud Toyota for such measures for long term durability, reliability, and ease of repair.

[@zackzander4425]

They're no more reliable than the American brands these days. Back in the 90s they had something, aside from the frames rotting out.

[@quadrunner2124]

+Zack Zander I'm with jj on this one. I love it when they just keep taking baby steps. Ford for example is great at pushing forward, but every once and awhile their customers pay the price for it. Usually progress is great, but occasionally they move to fast and do a stupid because they overlooked a little thing.

[@michaelbradley770]

Zack Zander the 90s american were the last of our good vehicles I'm a ford guy through and through had every domestic brand over 15 total vehicles but today a Toyota at 200k is a ford and gm at 150k and dodge at 100k as far as wear and I have three Ford's and one gm in my driveway so this is a totally unbiased opinion besides the fact that the i force v8 is a Yamaha designed engine which they are known for being reliable as a brand in general

[@Billy28376]

Michael Bradley 90s fords and reliable don’t belong in the same sentence.

[@peterzurek5192]

My 80 k pounds Freightliner diesel semi truck gets 7.5 mpg when fully loaded driving 65mph.... same as Tundra pulling "empty" trailer lol. Cold weather decreases fuel economy. I own Tundra too and when I'm towing I try not to exceed 62 mph it will help with mpg hugely...

[@jfriday73]

I had a 2013 Tundra and now have a 2016 Tundra. I tow a 4000lb boat or an 8000lb travel trailer. I tend to tow 65mph or less with tow haul mode on and put the truck in 5th gear so it won't search back and forth between gears and mileage is much better than your test. I get 12-14 mpg towing the boat and 9.5-10mpg towing the camper. I am sure winter blend fuel has a negative impact on your test along with running 70mph with cruise control. My personal opinoin is to never use cruise towing and don't push past 65mph. I have had Chevy and Ford half tons in the past and prefer the Tundra for reliability.

[@rumerboyz]

How did your 2013 tundra hold up? brakes and repairs? thanks

[@jfriday73]

+rumerboyz Traded it with just under 30,000 miles on my 2016 and had no issues. I planned to keep it a long time but i saw the larger fuel tank on 2016 and my trade in price I couldn't refuse. I would imagine I would have gone 80k miles before I would have needed brakes, my GM trucks were in the shop all the time for repairs and brake rotors were warped all the time. I'm not saying 3/4 ton trucks would have had these issues, but my 1/2 tons did. My truck is my daily driver so I prefer a half tons for the comfort and ride.

[@jfriday73]

+rumerboyz Traded it with just under 30,000 miles on my 2016 and had no issues. I planned to keep it a long time but i saw the larger fuel tank on 2016 and my trade in price I couldn't refuse. I would imagine I would have gone 80k miles before I would have needed brakes, my GM trucks were in the shop all the time for repairs and brake rotors were warped all the time. I'm not saying 3/4 ton trucks would have had these issues, but my 1/2 tons did. My truck is my daily driver so I prefer a half tons for the comfort and ride.

[@rumerboyz]

+J Friday good to hear. just bought my first Toyota, 2014 Tundra. Have just over 14,000 miles with no real issues.

[@jasongray1369]

I've got an 07 tundra and I find that when accelerating u use tow mode but when cruising on flat ground it does better with tow mode off. it shifts earlier and isn't so eager to downshift

[@BeachJedi101]

Remember 10 years ago when you could get Mcdonalds for $5, rent was under $1k, and trucks for under $30k? Our dollar is worthless nowadays, everything has damn near doubled in price

[@1guyin10]

+parkourviewer It isn't just that. Car companies are dumping huge amounts of money into developing future drivetrains. They are getting that money by jacking up the price of their pickups and SUVs. Look at what the price of a Tahoe has done in the last few years. 5 years ago you cold pick up a well equipped Tahoe for $45K. Now it is more like $65K.

[@kingdaniel3519]

+1guyin10 Even better, I could've gotten a fully loaded, top of the line F150 for about $9000 back in the 70's. Now it'll cost $70000 for the same kind of truck. I could've done the same in the 90's for about $15000. It's not just the cost of future development, consumers are stupid. There's no way in hell that a new truck has $40-50000 worth of features. They are worth about half of what people buy them for. I bought my truck new in 05 for $29000 after a $3000 rebate. My same truck today costs closer to $42-45000. But it doesn't matter, manufacturers will continue to raise the prices of trucks because damn idiots will keep buying them at those inflated prices.

[@lkcampbell9795]

+parkourviewer, You are absolutely correct. And the situation continues getting worse. I remember back in 90 or 91, I was listening to a radio show which was hosted by a consumer advocate kind of guy. One episode he had a U.S. congressman as a guest. The congressman said that at that time, the real value of the U.S. dollar (and how that is calculated, I do not know) was eighteen cents. Just a few years ago, back in 2009 or early 2010, some congressman on CSPAN said that it was now 4.5 cents. So, when people complain about the price of something, it is (in my opinion) mostly because of the value of our money.

[@AStanton1966]

I wonder what the price of trucks would be if people couldn't lease or finance and had to pay cash. I predict the prices would be a lot lower.

[@Darius_Marx]

So have wages..

[@agoogleuser7784]

You should try hiding your hatred for imports a little better. Keeps coming up in all your reviews that are not domestic vehicles.

[@useryggfdcc]

He is American, keep that in mind.

[@jessebutryn]

I towed a trailer easily weighing in excess of 7500 lbs from New Jersey to Colorado in my 2002 4runner and I averaged 13-14MPG. I kind of understand what you're doing here, but when you are towing a heavy trailer you shouldn't be racing to highway speeds or cruising up hill @4000+RPM. My truck went over 4k rpm maybe three times during the 1700+ mile trip...the people behind me can wait.

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

7500# with a 4 runner? Do you have a death wish?

[@509livin8]

Get the fù'k out da way old fart

[@scrimmy6969]

I agree with Mr. Truck. Less is better in my opinion

[@scrimmy6969]

+Shuffle3956 I was not comparing the two trucks. Less electrical options equals less problems later on. Simplicity and reliability is what I want

[@scrimmy6969]

+Shuffle3956 I do as well. All my trucks have well over 250k miles and run like new.

[@scrimmy6969]

+Shuffle3956 To be honest with you sir I only own GM trucks. I have owned them since new and can honestly say they have never let me down. I will never buy a new truck again until manufacturing jobs come back home. But even then there is to many electronics telling you that you are crossing the line, to close to a vehicle, back up cameras, etc. I am old school. I can back my truck up to my trailers one time and goon them up. I do not need a camera to guide me. Just my thoughts sir. Goodnight! Jim

[@scrimmy6969]

+scrimmy6969 hook them up

[@scrimmy6969]

+Shuffle3956 No sir! You are raised to love or hate a brand of trucks. I obviously was raised around GM. I have also owned a Ford which in my case was the biggest mistake I made. To each their own. Goodnight to you again. Jim

[@jaro360]

The colder the temperature, the more dense the air is, the more drag due to the surface area of the truck and trailer at high speed. So if tested at the same temperature I would expect better mpg. Thanks for the great videos. Keep up the great work!

[@larrybinder3389]

At 12:31 in the video, the pump is showing 12.031 gallons added yet you state 12.31 thus your calculation is wrong.

[@mmz77]

Correct. The correct mpg is 8.15mpg.

[@TFLtruck]

+Larry Binder Thanks for catching this. We've added an annotation to the video to reflect this calculation.

[@xamitz58]

+The Fast Lane Truck get rid of the jackals Roman. He's such a dick head.

[@timb5913]

how coincidental 12:31, 12.31, and 12.031

[@Weatherby406]

This is done in the winter with winter blend fuels. Iv consistently got 2-3 mpg less in the winter with every truck Iv ever owned.

[@damastabaker]

I own one of these trucks and the engine may fetch poor fuel economy but it runs like a beast. I bet that you could tow twice what the truck is rated to tow without any trouble.

[@johnsheldon3664]

They did. The Space shuttle

[@ezshep5242]

Good video. My personal experience towing with a 2020 SR5 Crew cab (TRD Sport. 4.30axle. Front/rear sway bars w/CAI): at 5700ft above sea level, I get 11.4 to 12 mpg. I pull a Lance 1985 loaded down... about 4800lbs my best guess. I use top tier fuel too. It pulls my Lance effortlessly. Family of 4 and the truck bed loaded down too. I can tow at 70/75mph and it glides. The aerodynamics of the Lance is a major plus too. Around town, I get 15.6 to 16.8mpg w/out pulling. ALSO, IT'S MADE IN USA. TX. :) 73.5% of the parts made in the USA too. Compare that to the domestics.

[@shalerrenee8510]

that tundra looks bad ass

[@KennysLyfe]

not the Fuel Economy lol

[@northstarracing18d-4d]

no it doesn't foriegn bull shit

[@KennysLyfe]

lol

[@deke441]

There made and built in Texas..

[@christophergross8306]

hTran7 not for towing, compare to Nissan and the tundras more than triples the titan

[@matt4270]

Why did you get away from doing the MPG loop without towing, especially in the Tacoma? That is more likely the way these 2 trucks will be used.

[@ssreview19]

+matt4270 I was wondering the same thing. I would like to see them do the same non-towing loop on the 2016 Tacoma to see what the MPG is compared to the 2015 model

[@monalz]

Toyota has to look bad! They should try that same test with the raptor lol !

[@Maloy7800]

5:55 "You don't have those electrically turning headlights". Oh, wow! You have to light up those acetylene lights at the front? THAT is really cool!

[@lgo0se]

man I watch alot of your vids and you make awsome, informational videos but it just seems like you really don't like Toyota... What's up with that?

[@josebrambila6110]

honestly they do , and they said its a Japanese truck although its a Japanese brand but that truck is american made here in the U.S unlike for ford their assemblies are in mexico, when Toyotas tundras and tacomas too i believe are made in the States , so i think they should actually consider it as an american truck

[@seabass22]

Boomers

[@Joseph-wv7yx]

Thanks for the comparison. At least the Tundra was not worse on the mileage. I have a 2014 Tacoma, TRD Sport, 4x4 and have thought of trading in and trading up; most notably for the tow weight factor. One suggestion I can make is do the tests without using Cruise Control. Many of us with Tacoma's will tell you, the gas mileage is worse using CC versus using the gas pedal manually. I get 20-21 MPG, unloaded/no towing, and that's with an ARB front bumper, FabFour rear bumper and a slightly heavier lift/suspension. I've conducted several test of CC versus manual and when I use CC, I only get 17-18 MPG. I truly think is because, the test route I used (a 3 hr drive from my house to my folks), I know the road and can assess when to start giving gas before a hill really starts. Cruise control only know the hill exists, once they truck is there, so more gas and power are used instantaneously to get up the hill. I just towed an 18' Winnebago Winnie Drop from SF Bay Area to Arches National Park, and averaged 9.4 - 10.2 MPG towing, using 91 Octane. I'm torn as I like off road and the Tacoma is a great size for that, but I like the Tundra for towing more weight. Only a foot difference in length, but I didn't see many large trucks on the back roads of Moab UT; 90% were Jeeps (Rubicons and Sahara) and Tacoma. Thanks again.

[@larryspiller15]

winter temperatures negatively impact fuel economy. Although everyone knows this truck is thirsty, you guys need to realize that you can lose 20% efficiency to the cold very easily. for example my 2014 civic gets 5.8 litres burnt to every 100km traveled in the summer at around 15°c but in the winter at the same speed with a temperature of -15°c is getting 7 litres of fuel burnt over 100km. I know most are Americans but percentage wise the values scale equally so you don't need to convert to understand the difference. ps my speed was 110kmh which is about 69mph.

[@larryspiller15]

and also my drive is a loop 53km their and 53 back

[@drakore244]

+larry Spiller The cold air has nothing to do with it, in fact most motors like the cold provided they have time to get to operating temperature first. The roads are bare and there appears to be minimal variables compared to the Tacoma. The reason people get worse economy in the winter is due to fighting snow, slush, slipping around, and that people let their cars idle before to warm up the heaters.

[@rafaelgoris5274]

+drakore244 I agreed with you.

[@larryspiller15]

drakore244 i drive in the cold at least 6 months a year, even if you warm up to operating temperature and reset your mileage it doesn't help and on any highway drive your up to operating temps in 5-10km max.

[@larryspiller15]

i have tried, the engine will feel more powerful but the economy is most definitely affected

[@DavidVines]

your comment about headlight adjustments although correct, rams do not need it when equipped with the air bag suspension as they self level.

[@niclynch319]

It looks to me like pump actually said 12.031 not 12.31

[@terrplmb]

One thing my brothers tundra has that the other brands don't is adjustable headlights. when you have a loaded trailer and the truck squats hit a button and adjust the headlights... why doesn't everyone do this?

[@seabass22]

Yes. Because cylinder deactivation is fool proof lol. There’s a reason Toyota doesn’t fool with the 5.7. It works.

[@jayfoster5756]

I am not sure one loop and one fill up is a "real world" mpg test. My 2014 Tundra (5.7L) with 4x4 Offroad package towed a 8000 lb Airstream cross country (from MD to NV and back) and averaged 9-10mpg while towing. It did great fourwheeling in UT and NV in the backcountry desert. I do love and watch most of your videos - keep em coming!

[@stkmkt1]

guys. I have a 2017 Tacoma. In temps below about 45 degrees, my truck averages about 19mpg combined. But in warmer temps, the truck averages 21.5. I only use Shell Premium and drive the same route. Something makes the engine run way more richer, apparently even after it is warmed up. The truck gets driven about 27 miles each way back and forth to work. Combination city and interstate driving.

[@aujla7564]

if these tests were conducted at 60mph fuel efficent would be much better cause rpms would be much lower.

[@bobbyb608]

Yeah, but these guys have proven over and over again that they are idiots

[@aujla7564]

+Gage Davis if I drive at 75mph in my caravan with cement in the back I get like 10L/100k but if I drive at 55-60 I get like 8.8, engine rpm is key my engine stays in the highest gear at 55-60 but at 70mph it keeps switching from high to low

[@brandonfriesen5389]

+Sartaj Aujla They're trying to prove that they do real world. Which makes sense since many people go 80 and over. So 75 is a good average I think.

[@Jans_world1730]

That goes to show that they are not biased. They are not holding back when they test these trucks.

[@aujla7564]

+Brandon Friesen well yeah but not when towing usually

[@phatrides222000]

Don't use cruise control either. everything y'all did made the mileage worse.

[@jamescundiff3264]

Keep in mind this truck has 4.30 gears

[@josephlombardo4825]

It seems like you guys go out of your way to knock Toyota....

[@lkcampbell9795]

+Joseph Lombardo, I agree. If I were Toyota, I would not give them anything to test or evaluate.

[@kingdaniel3519]

+Joseph Lombardo Maybe if Toyota made a good truck they wouldn't have bad things to say about them.

[@josephlombardo4825]

+Daniel Bell a good truck? Ur kidding right? You're either ignorant or not too bright...

[@josephlombardo4825]

+Daniel Bell Make that statement to any Toyota owner and they will just laugh at you and wonder how you made it this far in life...

[@kingdaniel3519]

Joseph Lombardo It's okay. Tundra owners give the rest of us a good laugh. You think you have something great, what you've actually got is something less than mediocre at best and shitty at worst.

[@frazhassan]

It is always a pleasure to see your videos. It would be much better if you can improve the sound quality of the in car conversations. Keep doing the best job. We love your videos.

[@johnathanw7777]

You CAN adjust the headlights height on my 2015 Sierra Denali by popping the hood and turning the adjustment screw they put right up top of headlight assembly. There are holes on both sides that you just stick a medium sized Phillips screwdriver in and turn!

[@Borp56]

I'm still not sure how I feel about Toyota's new tan color option it looks decent but it looks strange at the same time.

[@poppyneese1811]

Had a Tacoma Crew 4wd manual transmission, other than poor fuel mileage, rust and comfort it was a great truck! After 2 years and my wife hated the truck so bad I traded it, will have to say I got what I paid trade in value, loved my 2002 Tacoma that I drove 12 years, figured Tacoma’s are built for young people that can sleep on a couch and never complain, not old men that wake up at 4:30, as you get older comfort becomes more and more important. I love my F150, but really like the light blue Tundras I see on the road and compared to the ecoboost they sound so good!

[@kodiak536kodiak536]

My 2016 Tundra SR5 that I use to tow my boat, a 24' Cuddy Cabin sport cruiser, gets 17.8MPG. I DON'T use cruise control, due to the fact that every little incline will cause transmission to go in to over drive. Some steeper incline jacks it up to nearly WOT, therefore gulping down more gas. Boat + trailer= @6000Lbs. My normal work commute, @195 miles per day, average @20.1MPG.

[@rx2ride259]

I had a 2017 Tacoma Limited and now a nice low miles used 2016 Tundra. There is no contest on what is better for towing. I could care less about the gas mileage. The Tundra is a beast towing, the Tacoma is great for a homeowner who needs to make a trip to Home Depot for new blinds :-)

[@snowmanwithahat]

Cool review, really can't wait to see you guys do a duramax colorado vs the Tacoma. That's the one us midsize truck drivers want to see!

[@Phil_Goodman]

i can watch the fast lane truck all day

[@queencityarmory4633]

I think it would make a grate video if you guys could do a 2016 ford F150 FX4 vs 2016 Toyota TRD PRO video on a challenging off road course. Good Video keep them coming.

[@samchuob4471]

i would love to watch TFL post on KZbin

[@johnsheldon3664]

I towed a 3500 lb trailer from VA to Fla. with a Tacoma gas mileage was poor what was worse was the the performance. I was barely able to do the speed limit (65mph), Traded for a Tundra, May not get better gas mileage, but the performance is there

[@DLK262]

Love the review I loved my 98 Tacoma before I had to sell it but. I'm really liking the Rams and Chevy Trucks. Keep it up guys.

[@quadrunner2124]

I like Mr. Trucks view. Truck needs to work and do its job. That's the main thing. Doo Dad options only end up on my rig if Its a heck of a deal anyway. At the end of the day, it just needs to work well and be easy to work on. Good job guys. This is cool stuff.

[@rahulrane1658]

The cold leads to a substantial drop in mileage. Also driving at 65 versus 70 is a difference.

[@jimunderwoodthepilot]

They are GETTING THERE???? yea right. Ive driven Toyotas since 1981. Would never buy a pile of crap GM, Ford, or a Dodge, ever.

[@texasbeast239]

The Underwood's - - He meant they are slowly coming around and adding features that truck drivers like and expect. This was in reference to non-ergonomic placement of controls like the side mirror adjustment switches and trailer brake controller. If you're gonna super-size everything for a truck, then you have to carefully think out instrument and control placement. But Toyota is newer to this game than the Domestics so it is behind the times on these fronts, playing catch up. That's not a hater dig. I drive a Taco Prerunner. It's just being honest.

[@DirtyDanRacimg]

Toyota may make a decent truck but they are under equipped and in major need of a updated interior and motor. They are over priced for what they are for the fact they cant haul as much as a domestic truck and they make less power and cant haul as much. Toyota needs a overhaul on this truck its the same damn truck from 2007

[@Billy28376]

Dirty Dan EG some people like myself look for reliability. I had a 2014 ram hemi. It broke. Had the heads replaced at 45k. It got 12-14 mpg at 60 mph. My 2016 ford eb was in the shop for little problems every few months. Back up camera quit. Coil packs would go out. Sync system would freeze. Windshield wiper motor went out. Window switches on driver and passenger side were replaced. At 26k I gave up. My 2019 tundra has been good to me so far. It’s a simple truck but it just does what I need without complaints. Pulled a 8k car trailer this weekend got 12 mpg. Went to the lake got 19.5 mpg empty on the two lane at 58 mph on cruise. I don’t feel it under performs at all. It’s quiet and comfortable. Oh and I paid 10k less than a comparable domestic truck. Even included adaptive cruise.

[@jakeh9027]

billy ???? The Hemi is a fairly reliable engine and The ecoboost is reliable also besides the extra variable on maintaining a turbo. Either you are lying about the trucks you have had or you had some really bad luck. The biggest concern for the Ford and Ram is electrical issues. The Tundra is a great truck with less bells and whistles.

[@nusudahwdo3181]

I bought a pile of crap gm and have been paying for it big time.

[@Joseph-wv7yx]

I commented here three months ago and have since towed greater weight with my 2014 Tacoma TRD Sport. I was towing a Winnebago Winnie Drop at 2,364 lbs and only got about 8 - 10 mpg. I will note again, these tests should not be done on Cruise Control as the mileage is worse when using CC; I know this from experience. I just completed a maiden voyage towing a new 19' Airstream, weighing 1,500 lbs more than my Winnebago. As many Airstreamers noted, my mileage rose. I was average 12.5 mpg, and got a high of 13.8 mpg. The Tacoma pulled the trailer up to 75 mph on flat road in Idaho & Nevada easily. On 6% grades, I was pulling uphill at 65 mph. One thing not mentioned by these guys is, at least on the Tacoma, you can't tow in standard drive. The Toyota Manual clearly states to pull in 4th gear (not 4WD, but 4th gear). This avoids the revving up and down of the engine on hills. Have to say, my only reason to go up to a Tundra would be a larger trailer as the Tacoma can tow up to 6,500 lbs, but my Toyota contacts tell me, that it's actually 7,500, but Toyota has attemped to lower the liability factor by keeping owners well away from the max load. To throw out when considering Fords, Chevy and others, I was just in Moab also, and I drove a Tundra TRD Pro, which cleared everything on the Tower Arch Trail. In our group, the Ford F150 did not and took more time to clear the trail. We later used a Ford Raptor (handled beautifully), but it too came real close to bottoming out. I will say the Tundra rides rougher off-road.

[@iraqbeentheredonthat]

Y'all might think about welding in a few low tie off points in that trailer. If anything happened you always want your load tied down, so you know they won't move.

[@GregScavezze]

You should have used the TRD Off-road package vs. the Pro. I believe the Pro has a lower towing capacity and more squat and also, I am betting the Taco had the Off-road package vs the Pro as well.

[@1guyin10]

Interesting. I really thought the Tundra would do better than that. That rear end gives it a lot of grunt, but it really makes it drink the gas.

[@AveryExcavating]

Love your videos guys. Keep up the good work and I look forward to each and every one.

[@ThreeTwoVictor]

I'm surprised "Mr.Truck" doesn't know that the Tundra doesn't need 87 octane fuel, and saying that he's filling up with 87 to "give it a chance" doesn't make any sense.

[@lukestoyz]

A couple of things: 1.Tundra Tow mirrors are available factory and Toyota isn't "Getting there". They have been There! 2. The Tundra gets a lot better mileage without using cruise control and tow haul mode, both mode rev the motor up. Tow haul revs out the gears for most power, while cruise control doesn't hold a gear up hills, instead downshifts needlessly( My opinion is the cruise logic sucks on most Toyota trucks, especially when towing). As stated by other comments, you can just manually shift to hold a gear and modulate the speed with a light gas foot to keep your speed. ( I do this all the time)

[@Aford4322]

The Ford F-250/350 6.2 gas also comes with an optional 4.30 gearing and both Dodge and both Chevy/GMC 3/4-ton gas trucks have a 4.10 gear ratio (optional and standard, respectively), which is comparable to a 4.30. Your blanket statement indicating that no other 1/2 or 3/4-ton truck comes close to a 4.30 rear end is invalid.

[@Terminxman]

Let's see, I wonder if a 4400 lb truck with a 3.5L is more efficient than a 5600 lb truck with a 5.7L. I WONDER? What a fucking mystery

[@radioguy1620]

Air temp makes a big difference in MPG from both the wind resistance and the engines intake end of it, if the air going into the airbox is cold the throttle body doesnt need to open as much for a given power output and this causes a higher vacuum for a given speed and high vacuum is engine air drag losing mpg, that's why any super mpg hipermiler will build a warm air intake, thin warm air flows easier than cold thick air .

[@daviddelacruz3196]

I’m just towing probably full bed of tools, sometimes trash, materials/pallets, trucks are getting too expensive for work.. I still want a newer tundra since my 1st gen 4.7 is a warrior even had a v6 company tundra with flat bed hauling up to 2 pallets of stone only problem is suspension with all that weight but they’re really reliable

[@oakleyfreak45]

the 4.30 is available in the f250 with the v8 its just an option you have to select.

[@sting2689]

That color is freaking awesome!

[@jbnrusnya_should_be_punished]

I was thinking of ~8.4 during video. I guess Silverado would be more fuel effective, ~0.5 gal or so.

[@joshc606]

MPG is definitely a controversial subject but at least you guys are tryinh with no special tricks! thanks for that. I wonder how some smaller SUV/crossovers would do with their MPG at max tow TFLT.

[@nal13nal13]

I got 10 mpg hauling a 7k travel trailer from Wisconsin to Maine and back according to the dash and doing the math at the pump.

[@dstafford2200]

finally got my hoodie guys its awesome and really warm keep up the vids and also anyway you all could do a regular cab 4x4 shootout of the big three

[@TFLtruck]

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[@danielc5205]

The Ford Super Duty F-250, F-350 SRW, and the F-350 DRW all have the 4.30 gear ratio option.

[@maddoxinc1642]

Auto up/down windows and auto headlights is not "all that fancy stuff" its things you expect on a $50k truck. I have these things on my camry. Toyota is in the market to give you less for more. Not to mention that they still don't have a diesel in the states which is why I don't even care about the Tundra or Tacoma. Bought my last toyota truck years ago after buying new ones since the early 80's.

[@DirkCannon]

MaddoxInc it's the off road capabilities that makes it nearly 50k,

[@timbradley3228]

No matter what you trying to point at.... it has something that all others doesn't have it's call durability

[@rocketj7449]

1. Tundra does not have a true 4.30 rear end due to the tall transmission gears. Roughly equivalent to a 3.73. 2. Who tows at 70mph real world with a half ton unless they have a death wish? My Tundra with load leveling and anti sway still gets wagged at 60mph. 3. My tundra at 60 mph with 9k lb toy hauler will do 7mpg driving into the wind, 11mpg with the wind, and 9mpg under calm conditions. Did you record wind conditions when both trucks were tested? I love the video but if you want true apples to apples, test the trucks on the same day. Also, what did you expect, any truck towing at 70 mph will get crappy mpg. 55-60 mph is more realistic. Keep up the hard work, can't wait to see the next Ike gauntlet video.

[@BoiseG]

I own a 2001 Tundra and bought it used in 2003. It's been a bumper to bumper/inside&out, trouble free truck from the day I drove it home. It still runs strong and the only reason I'm shopping for a new truck is because I would like a little more towing capacity. My only complaint about the Tundra is they don't have a long bed option.

[@DirkCannon]

wBryang they have a 6 foot bed option with the crew cab, won't be available with the crew max cab

[@olderwiser2080]

The standard ed on the tundra is 6.5'. The Tundra long bed is ~8' IIRC.

[@everythingpnw]

TheKillzone1511 They don’t have a six foot bed with the crew cab or one at all, a 6.5 foot bed is available with the double cab or regular cab.

[@Fordguy1997]

I have a feeling the Silverado is going to smash the Tundra in the fuel economy test. Going to go watch the new video right now!

[@GlidenIV]

I wanna see proof of the trailer brake controller... It didn't exist in the 2015's even though they had them listed on the window stickers. Toyota sent me a $200 check after filing a complaint and having to install an after market brake controller.

[@Probonoman]

you guys should have made both vichs. equal. meaning on the taco you almost have max load so you should have done that on the tundra

[@KurNorock]

Using higher octane gas doesn't help. In fact it hurts your fuel economy because higher octane gas has less energy per gallon, meaning your engine has to burn more gas to get the same power. The only time you need high octane gas is if your engine is turbo/super charged, or has high compression ratios. If your engine is designed for 85 or 87, then run that. You'll get more power and better fuel economy.

[@JoshuaRAnderson]

I think you should have used the same percenetage to max towing weight to see what really gets the best MPG.

[@MrKevinHolland]

My tundra is a 13 with the same power train and out of all my friends trucks I get the worst fuel mileage but I love the truck great truck

[@MrKevinHolland]

I can't get better then 13.3 mpg on a tank

[@johnmartin6899]

Need to keep in mind that your actually 1400lbs (.75 or 3/4 of a ton) more. As a tractor-trailer driver, I haul by the ton. Thanks for posting.

[@garrettscott7762]

I wish he'd stop calling it a Taco, keep waiting for him to call the Tundra a Tuh lol

[@TooLucky406]

BIG Fan of the show guys!.....but if it make any difference the true mpg is 8.15 and not 7.96.....check out the gallon @12:31, it clearly state 12.031 and not 12.31!

[@ptownrat3811]

Wow. I have a '16 Tacoma TRD Off Road that I just pulled a mini camper, 3400 lbs, down for Bueno Vista, cotton wood canyon, to Pueblo and it was killing that 3.5. Headed down hill, following the Arkansas on hwy 50 and the Taco was downshifting to maintain the speed limit. Very disappointed in the 3.5. Have been looking at a '16 Tundra TRD OR and now I am a bit suspect. The Tundra would obviously not sweat 3500 lbs like the Taco, but the same MPG is odd. Must be the 4:30 rear end. The Tundra should pull like a beast. Excellent vid.

[@milhaus28]

I wonder if having an more broken in motor matters much? I have a 2013 Tundra Rock Warrior with 48k on the clock. I pulled a 5,100lb car trailer to the track and back (245 miles) and managed a very respectable 12.7 MPG running 87 octane.

[@ptownrat3811]

11.8 mpg Pueblo, Monarch Pass, Gunnison/Blue Mesa. 3500 lbs and the speed limit. Bottom of the pass to the top it was 8.8. Altitude takes quite a bit out of MPG, HP, etc...

[@DKazzed]

Would be good to see this test in warmer weather. Winter sucks.

[@jimppk]

You don't need fancy stuff in an off road truck the old guy made a good point there, what you need is reliability...

[@ckjpony]

i hope you guys tow this weight with other trucks so we can see the difference.

[@TheKelzer]

How can you weigh a truck...THEN fill it with 38 gal (228lbs) of fuel..and not include that in your weight? BTW, you may be bummed that some of the "lazy person" options aren't on there, but let me share that after 140,000 miles on my 07, NOTHING and I mean NOTHING has gone wrong with the truck. Ave mileage is 14.5 with a 4" lift and "E" rated BFG A/T's driving in Hawaii with lots of steep hills and brisk trade winds. I've seen 20mpg on the flats (no wind). It's thirsty, but still significantly cheaper than a diesel (diesel is $1 more a gallon here !). Just curious, why would you expect a bigger, heavier truck, with a bigger engine to get better mileage than a smaller truck at a steady cruise speed? Weight and Aero are the big players at steady cruise....duh.

[@ps3dethman1]

Wish my dads 08 4.7 could say that 100,000 and its on its 3rd tranny 2nd rear end. Even the exhaust fell off.. I will say for a 4.7 that tundra has power

[@timmyteabag69]

ps3dethman1 you must have got a bad truck then because my friend pulled 14,000lbs everyday on his 4.7 never had an issue in 10 years and 450,000 miles

[@traveltrailertales1440]

ps3dethman1 my '04 sequoia 4wd has 240,000 miles on it gets 18mpg on highway doesn't burn oil or lose antifreeze. The only work I've ever done on it was brake pads and rotors at 150,000; recharged the AC at 200,000 and replaced the AC's expansion valve at 235,000. It still has the original stainless steel exhaust, shocks, springs, ac pump, water pump, CV joints, etc. Mine has been a great value and pulls my car hauler with ease. MPG drops of course with more weight it has to tow, higher speeds, and elevation changes. Not bashing other brands but I can say all other brands I have owned over my lifetime I have never been this fortunate in reliability and durability. Maybe today's Toyota are not as well made,,, or maybe the other brands have caught up to and possibly surpassed Toyota quality which now makes "Toyota quality" no longer exclusive? Either way, I will drive my Sequoia until it or I die, whether it be tomorrow or another 40 years simply because it's the perfect vehicle for me in size, comfort, and capability. I'm looking to get a small Airstream soon for rv fun.

[@davek12]

That sounded good, but I'd never choose "Band-Aid" for the color of my $50,000 vehicle. That's almost Ike Gauntlet thirsty, too.

[@jakemarlow8998]

I recently bought a 2016 SR5 4WD DC. I have the original tire size. I did my first test for all-town driving (many suburban traffic lights and no freeway). I drove like an old lady with a very light foot because I wanted to see how good I could get. The dash gauge said 12.0 MPG, but I did the math ... 10.75! Luckily, I have a small Mazda for around-town driving. I'll be taking a road trip in a few months with 400 miles of all freeway. I will only drive 60 MPH. This fugger better get at least 15 MPG, or I'll be seriously bummed. I knew the Tundra's gas mileage sucks, but not this bad. Every car/truck I've ever owned got what the sticker said it would get. This thing is supposed to be 13 in town and 17 on freeway.

[@freezor80]

I really like the color of that Tundra.

[@adidas2284]

Weird coming across this vid. I drove from AR to AZ and avg. 12 mpg towing 5,500 lbs in my Tundra going 70 mph most of the way.

[@thumperpaul]

Toyota didn’t mess with a good thing. The 5.7 is bulletproof, unlike the crap Ford and Dodge put out. I’d rather pay a bit more for fuel costs now than pay thousands for rebuilding turbos and transmissions a few years down the road.

[@JsGarage]

Love the stamping on the TRD Pro. Would not fill it in with anything though especially not chrome lol.

[@painterdood2484]

Maybe it's been pointed out already (not reading 288 comments) but that 4.30:1 ratio has to hurt at 70mph

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

Got my TFL T shirt today! Very nice! Love it!!

[@TFLtruck]

Way cool We're happy you like. Design 001 will be a classic for sure.

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

+The Fast Lane Truck I'll post a video and a link to it with me wearing it.

[@TFLtruck]

+scterka That would be cool. Thanks!

[@jdub099]

yes, ram and chevy have cylinder deactivation; however, that has been known for years now to be a huge failure point. They have rollers on the lifters that ride on the cam shaft that fail, and score the cams and ruin the engine. Please avoid those.

[@williamsealy8781]

Nobody should be towing 5k pounds with a Tacoma.

[@maddog8148]

Toyota's run run run....ahhh Forever!

[@richyjames2533]

id like to see you guys take the 2016 silverado 1500 with the 5.3 or even the 6.2 and do this test. i believe the numbers would be way better.

[@1234567890ZETA]

I think Toyota made a really great truck with the Tundra, it's oozing with machismo in it, a very nice spacious interior even with the Tundra SR Double Cab, for me it doesn't feel under-powered. The only bad thing about it is it's very fuel thirsty, Toyota didn't even bothered putting "greenish" technology like cylinder-deactivation or direct injection or other neat fuel sipping features instead it went full on with a naturally aspirated V8 which has been carried over since 2007, I hope Toyota realizes that because there are some people out there like me who wants a casual truck that you can keep for 20+ years while still returning an acceptable fuel economy.

[@nickmastrangelo8515]

And yet they are the same company who make the Prius, go figure!

[@curtis1951]

He said 12.31 when the pump said 12.031.

[@CallOfDutyInsider]

the colour of that tundra is too nice

[@derekcaylor8449]

Mr. Truck, you can get 4.30 gears in 6.2l gas f250/f350s...

[@MemphisMojo15s]

well, it's new, cold, winter fuel, higher elevation, extremely heavy, and when you hit a big hill, the Tundra will have an easier time getting up it. aerodynamics and 1400lbs heavier is also a major factor, 4:30 gear, and 2 more cylinders...that's a Lot of things to consider.

[@Ekimsnegdoh27]

Outside temp is posted at all times in 2016 and newer tundras on the center screen. They can't read no need to scroll

[@taofouajarodeve]

Knock all you want, TUNDRA is king in reliability. When I’m out far from home, I want dependable tools at my disposal.