2016 Yamaha MT-10 - Episode 6 - BJ's Blog

Episode 6 - another long one this, mostly taken up by the suspension setup.
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[@FlipsGTS]

I hope you know this „long“ video still acts as #1 reference video for the german mt-10 forum. This setup is the perfect place to start if you have no idea about setups. Hope youre well. You helped alot of ppl

[@pags1981]

James is definitely an engineers engineer, a hive of knowledge, what a top bloke

[@dg8062]

This gentleman seems to know SO MUCH about bikes, very informative 👏. I'm here in the states and wish I had someone with this much knowledge and such a great attitude available!

[@SmokinZen]

Thanks for this video I tried the suspension settings mentioned and since I am around same size I figured what the heck. It was a huge improvement I am so glad I was able to unlock some of the potential that was sitting inside of the bike.

[@theavangelist]

longer the better I say, this is the type of content we all want from moto mags - keep striving forward into new content ideas - this IS working

[@fastbikes]

Thank you Andy, our issue is that we do these things in our spare time mostly. We don't make anything from these, not a dime, they're extras for our readers, subscribers and anyone else interested. Used to be eight of us just making a magazine, now there are two full-time editorial staff (And Al part -time, plus the odd bit of freelance input) doing the magazine, facebook, Twitter, Web page stories, these videos, the lot. Thanks to those such as Jonny we've been able to keep doing them, but it's a struggle, so thank you for the praise!

[@michaelelwood6905]

Can't wait to get the suspension, the pads and new set of tires now. Looking forward to the next update! Great job.

[@fastbikes]

You'll love it!

[@SineOccasu]

I shit you not, I never expected to watch this whole vid. Thought for sure I would be skipping parts. James is just so knowledgeable, and makes it really interesting to watch!

[@fastbikes]

Good to hear!

[@dairy88man]

Followed the settings that was mentioned, and man there really is a difference! Thanks for the vid. Cheers from Singapore.

[@fastbikes]

Mega!

[@David15379]

Just picked mine up in race blu scorpion de cat pipe , rg tail tidy and Yamaha oil and radiator cover . Absolutely loving it and sounds amazing with just de cat and standard pipe... Waiting to see what can looks and sounds best on your test bike... Also it is hilarity on wheels and makes all the naughty stuff faaar too easy . Luv it and keep up the blogs

[@rademilanovic5804]

Your blog make me happy every time...its so helpfull and you make many things clear for me...Thanks on that!

[@fastbikes]

Thanks!

[@DaveInOroValley]

Just picked up mine last week (FZ) in the USA, and it is truly one of the best motorcycles I've owned in forty years.

[@fastbikes]

Enjoy Dan!

[@6488ott]

might have been a long video but it was certainly well worth watching. full marks...

[@fastbikes]

Good to hear, ta!

[@Rich.Wilkin]

Ive never seen a suspension set up video and really enjoyed watching this very useful keep it up.

[@fastbikes]

Cheers Richard!

[@gshok]

Brilliant. I can't wait to get my hands on this bike next year. They will definitely go fast, again.

[@fastbikes]

You'll love it!

[@exuptoy]

Fair play to James, he really does know his stuff. I've set a bike up before over a few rides, but for the guy to do this by feel just shows his expertise. Nice one!

[@oshkoshbjosh986]

Great video! Helped me dial-in the new nitron shock and ohlins fork cartridges I recently fitted on my MT-09.

[@fastbikes]

Ahh interesting, was giving thought to a Nitron shock for this myself!

[@youvebeendicked]

Great videos, keep 'em coming! So far, #1 improvement was getting the suspension properly set up. Night and day difference and could feel the improvements just rolling out of the lot. Took the suggestion and just ordered the Brembo pads as well, the brakes are definitely the weakest part of the bike at the moment. I also had the same issue with crushing my fingers with the brake and clutch levers, some shorty levers fixed that quite nicely. It took 2 months to get replacement winglets over the tail light, everyone on the forums are complaining about them too.

[@fastbikes]

Ha, yeah, little buggars they are!

[@JeremyRhydes]

Dude, I'm loving your channel! Sweet vids.

[@fastbikes]

Cheers Jeremy!

[@leedisco13]

Great video, again, BJ. Nice to see James doing it rather than reading him talking about in the mag. Seems to make more sense 'seeing it'. Great mag. Top work

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Lee!

[@GIGABACHI]

AWESOME SAUCE. This the kind of content that separates shitty blogs from decent ones. You had my attention the whole time, didn't matter the whole thing was 36:45............i actually like the longer entries better, more time to be more explicit on each and every detail. And the guy at JHS he seems awesome to work with and very attentive to every comment you present to him and gives answers that anyone can understand or follow. GOOD JOB, Mate !

[@fastbikes]

Cheers Jiga!

[@pro50joe]

Solid videos, really enjoy watching these and it keeps tempting me to sell my FZ-07 for the 10

[@fastbikes]

Do it!

[@westers151]

Fantastic stuff - James certainly knows his onions; put these into my bike and it's brilliant. Fair play tot him for giving away these settings, however I dare say he'll get the money back from new customers. I know I'd go from Nottingham to Bristol for his knowledge - top bloke.

[@fastbikes]

True! Although as he says, this is a base setup, it can be fiddled with further for personal feeling, still mulling if I want any more changes at the mo.

[@1998TDM]

Great vid. Entertaining to hear the other riders opinions, which seem to bolster the bikes image. Watching your man twiddling the suspension is the first time I have understood how to gauge adjustments. It looks cleverer than my arse's opinion. The MT10 is a really bad choice of bike for the roads where I live but, it makes up the 3rd member of the fast bikes bucket list I would like to ride for awhile. Aprilia Tuono, any of them and the GSX-R750 being the other two. Thanks, I learned a lot. More wheelies please.

[@fastbikes]

We'll try!

[@snedro1]

If there are any other owners wondering if the suspension is worth changing just do it, it's bloody fantastic! I'm only 12 stone so quite a bit lighter than him, but these settings are still soooo much better than stock; he really isn't joking when he says it transforms the bike :D I've never played with suspension before, but I just followed the video and it only took like 45 mins. Keep up the good work guys (Y)

[@cornish_boy6235]

loving these videos and bloke seems like a right laugh

[@fastbikes]

Cheers Cornish!

[@cornish_boy6235]

no worries, lol

[@red.riot.2280]

Love this video. Still sketchy about trying to set mine up. Guess I just need to go and try it. Def needs to be more firm for me.

[@Xorbit17]

James is a real KZbin hero!

[@ninjanelly3506]

Brilliant development of a brilliant bike, keep it up ( literally) 😈

[@fastbikes]

Thanks bud!

[@r1deftone]

This guy James at JHS is great. Thanks for posting the settings. Mine has been set up but I didn't get numbers. Note: remove those passenger pegs. Balkamp part # 665-1000 is a perfect fit to plug the holes with. Looks like it was made for it.

[@fastbikes]

Another good tip, ta!

[@rekluseman666]

Set mine up this morning with the settings recommended by JHS and worked well, fitted new Bridgestone S20 Evo's yesterday and they aren't "Cutting Up" as bad as the standard settings.

[@fastbikes]

Nice work!

[@HadesHinz]

Keep up those MT-10 Blogs. I will test out the Settings soon on my MT10. Thx

[@fastbikes]

Sweet, let us know how you get on.

[@nieminenerno]

Great show, great episode! :) I own a MT-10 and agree on the opinions! greets, fan from Sweden

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Erno!

[@banger1891]

Had my suspension set up on Thursday just gone and couldn't agree more, feels totally different / better as soon as you ride it afterwards. So much of the weight distribution was bias to the rear of the bike at stock set up. Moving that forward and having it set to extend the forks a bit quicker after they were compressed has transformed the ride. No more drifting a bit wide on exits and it feels so much more planted when given a fistful out of a bend. Looking forward to the next Instalment. Ps- I fear your senior citizen may be right about that shredder. ! ;)

[@fastbikes]

Completely different bike, had to adjust riding style, now the chassis feels as lively as the motor! Yeah Mossy is probably correct, just don't tell him i said that! ;-)

[@JBZSTFC]

I just wondered whether the Brembo pads made any noticeable difference?

[@fastbikes]

Get out! ;-)

[@mathias6423]

Haha yeah I was just wondering the same. I must say he could have made that more clearly.

[@fastbikes]

Aaaargh!

[@yamimk]

great videos on the mt 10 would love one

[@fastbikes]

They're mega!

[@javierr1blue]

really friendly shop. thank yall for the video

[@fastbikes]

Pleasure!

[@stevewallace853]

Really good to see this stuff, I've felt like the back end of mine is too low, it makes the bike feel weird as you enter a corner, almost as though it's being steered from the rear. I'll give these settings a try and see how it feels. Excellent series. Keep up the good work :-)

[@fastbikes]

Yeah, as stock you deffo rode the rear and let the front just do whatever, you're right. Totally different bike now.

[@keithswales1981]

Mt 10 sp sorry predictive text 😂 can't wait to see it in the flesh at the bike show 👍🏍

[@expatbiker6598]

I had to watch suspension adjustment like 10 times to take it in. I'm slow like that. Thanks James

[@-DC-]

great update this is what a update is all about !

[@fastbikes]

Gracias!

[@ChuckieFinzter]

What do you use to clean the matte paintwork of the MT-10? Also did you find out the reasons for the bungee strap attached to the wheel when James balance your new tyres?

[@kie1an196]

Love these updates keep it up 👍 so if it were you that was looking to do one more mod before winter kicks in, what would you go for? Decat link pipe or the brake pads and suspension set up? Hmmm which to do first?

[@fastbikes]

For you? Brake pads first and foremost!

[@olderwiser2080]

How close were the factory suspension settings in the manual to where you ended up? My '17 FJ09 manual gives settings for "minimum", "standard" and "hard", so you should have wound up somewhere near the "hard" settings.

[@Peres1988]

In the rear sag when he says fifteen, its 15mm free static sag, the measure between the suspension all extended and the bike in the ground?

[@mikeshaw1459]

'Welcome to Jonny Cab" freaked me out at 6:43!!

[@BrysonSenevira]

can you pls. post the part# of the Brembo pads you used. Thx.

[@650Dan]

What static sag was set on the front in mm? And should you set it with the rider on or is there not much benefit

[@halcsabi]

Very good job.

[@yzfr6806]

Preloadrange in the front is 15,5 turns. 14 turns in is almost maxed out. A spring with so much tension on it isn't a good idea in my opinion.

[@scotwilson4169]

Great vid, could you maybe talk about the new pads in the next blog? Not sure if they make any difference..

[@fastbikes]

Watch it! ;-)

[@thepassionofthegoose5472]

The bastards at Fast Bike are going to persuade me into a bike payment by year's end. Grumble, grumble, grumble...

[@fastbikes]

Get yer wallet out! ;-)

[@alanedwards3180]

It will be the best £11 grand you will spend .part chopped my 09 r6 for one 2 months ago .have not stopped grinning since .its bonkers

[@BorisKarloff66]

Excellent blog lots of great info.. I have another question for you, I noticed in the video an original R1 I have a 99 R1, how does the Mt-10 compare to my 99 R1 engine wise cheers, keep up the good work

[@fastbikes]

Actually think it's a 2000 R1now I look at it properly! The MT would match it to a certain degree, makes about the same power as an R1 from then, but the R1 would murder it higher up through having a lot more revs to play with.

[@BorisKarloff66]

Cheers for the reply. If I get an MT-10 I would have to do a fare few miles commute is the fuel economy as bad as folks say ie less than 100 miles to the tank, doesn't bother me too much just something else to think about. I think the MT-10 is something you buy with your heart not your head

[@mmusic9194]

Hi! Can you tell me what was your weight when you did this setup? I have friend with mt10, and he needs to tune in the suspension. Thanks man!

[@pistolpete6321]

That was really interesting, hard to believe they don't do a better job setting up the suspension at the factory. Thanks for doing this video!

[@thetriplex9365]

You can't do a better job, because motorcycle suspension is extremely sensitive to the rider's weight and style. What may not work for someone will work perfectly great for someone else. That's why it's adjustable.

[@Thefarrar46]

How tight does the rear spring need to be. Mines as tight as it can be. Im 14 stone as well.

[@keithswales1981]

been looking at the blog ...Just ordered a mt 09 sp to replace my much loved mt09

[@fastbikes]

MT-09 SP? Or MT-10 SP?

[@bastrix69]

You probably mentioned already, but can you tell me exactly what brembo pads did you use?

[@fastbikes]

Brembo R&T SC pads

[@FinicumHardy]

are you sticking with 36 psi front and rear on the street? I've been using 32 - 34 but would love to hear any comments.

[@rekluseman666]

Been using 33F 36R for years! 36f and 42R for two up as far as I'm concerned.

[@fastbikes]

Personal preference, so long as there's enough in there! Always been a 36/36 man myself, but each to their own.

[@Peres1988]

The manual says the same pressure with 1 or 2 person, 36 front and 42 rear.

[@Rich.Wilkin]

I fancy trying the suspension set up myself is there a chance you have them settings so I can try it out?

[@fastbikes]

I'm pretty sure I've put the sheet up from the static setup in here? If not drop me a mail and I'll send you a copy, or go get it done, cheap as chips really!

[@grantmotox123]

Can agree with the raised rear, works much better! I'm going to try a 200 rear next too As for the make you ride like a hooligan, Can also relate, i was riding up the m1 minding my own business, next thing some lads in a RS6 audi started egging me on, before i knew it i was doing 100+ mph wheelies. Shame on me

[@fastbikes]

Yep, happens far too easily!

[@NoobsForSnacks]

Anyone catch how much the spring was tightened? It was cut out. I imagine only a little bit, but just curious.

[@Recn12]

Noob For Lyfe I was wondering the same thing

[@Peres1988]

He says 15, I think its 15mm sag, the measure between free sag and static sag.

[@davidowen3311]

Anybody know where and which sort of pads they were?

[@simonwernerisaksen]

How much is a non SP MT-10 in the UK? Here in Norway they cost 23.000£

[@dry509]

How is fueling? Does it surge? Is the on/off throttle jerky?

[@fastbikes]

It's fine I'd say.

[@hexthank]

Approximately what do you weigh? I may use these as base settings for my FZ and go from there.

[@hexthank]

Also, just to be sure I've got the terminology right, 6 clicks OUT would mean that you go full right, then 6 clicks left? 6 clicks ON would be full left, then 6 clicks right? Or opposite? AH SUSPENSION!

[@thetriplex9365]

Check the manual and the adjusters. There should be a H S lettering there. The advice is always to start with the bike's standard setup and go from there. It'd be best to set preload up with a buddy helping you out. There are different ways to do that, Motorcyclist has a nice video on it.

[@fastbikes]

Between 13-14 stone depending on how greedy I've been! Maybe...

[@AMPJ08]

That is why I will buy bikes with adjustable suspension as a minimum. Good Yamaha did at least that. Fortunately don't have this problem with my S1000R! With a button all goes well!

[@fastbikes]

Very true!

[@browie316]

MT-10 or Superduke, what would you prefer to live with daily?

[@fastbikes]

Yamaha!

[@w0ffle]

I need to get down to JHS!

[@fastbikes]

Quick! Don't delay!

[@win32dotex]

Whats that 15 setting in the rear shock? Thanks.

[@yzfr6806]

That's the freesag number and it's way too high. 5 - 10mm is what ur looking for withe the stock 'soft' spring

[@mdoohannsr500]

BJ now that there's more weight on the front is it harder to wheelie now 😜

[@fastbikes]

Er, no...

[@jamesbivenssully6052]

Gd video were is the place where you got it adjusted

[@fastbikes]

JHS Racing

[@Vindaloobeast]

Nice one.

[@fastbikes]

Thanks Lee!

[@nicenow25]

im saying hello to the speed triple next to the mt-10

[@DavorBertovic]

Wonder how can he set up the suspension on the bike without the rider's weight and measurment without the rider on it?? Otherwise it's very informative

[@fastbikes]

Because to ideally set to weight you may need to change the spring (s), without changing the spring, no problemo - plus, they've never had a single person come back and ask for a change, not one, in years, everyone has been happy with their setups, me included.

[@seancarroll8326]

Charles cant control himself either.

[@1stelas]

How does it compare to the brutale 1090rr?

[@fastbikes]

Either the RR or the Corsa would outhandle the MT, with stock or adjusted suspension settings, engines are about the same speed but the MT is a better bike overall. Not a surprise though considering the Brutale is essentially a decade old. It's better looking than the MT mind you. New one on the way too!

[@Na2gumiBlogspot]

Shock 15 turns on preload 7 clicks out low speed 2.5 turns out high speed 4 turns out on rebound Forks 14 turns out preload 3 clicks out rebound 6 clicks out compression Why didn't they measure sag with rider on?

[@Peres1988]

The preload on forks its not OUT, its ON, to the righ.

[@win32dotex]

What is that 15 turns on preload? Is it the spring 15 full turns goin up or goin down?

[@Na2gumiBlogspot]

@@win32dotex from fully open (vice versa to other settings which are from closed) you turn it clockwise 15 rounds

[@dant565]

What the hell was Paul from Neighbors doing on there lol?

[@fastbikes]

He works with us. Ish...

[@wackedoutdude]

Thats not a 98 r1.Its a 2000 2001. Good vids though eep up the good work.

[@rc51price]

Mt10 or streetfighter has a more upright position

[@javierr1blue]

What is going on with the license plate!!!! SOOO BIg!!!

[@fastbikes]

True, but after getting multiple fines for small ones over the years it's staying put!

[@davidtomkins4242]

Beej, stop being mean to charlie, lol

[@fastbikes]

He gives as good as he gets!

[@daniellang6112]

If you're more than happy with pads,why waste your money on lines? Really.

[@samrobinson2640]

Stick to cycling Charlie

[@fastbikes]

Ha!

[@liamj2363]

God it's hideous though. Why no XSR model for non Transformers fans?