Something wrong with your MT-10 suspension? XXX rated suspension tuning.

I asked the question after I road with a friend the other day. He had a new MT-10 and just wasn't happy with the suspension. After he made a few inquirers He was told a suspension upgrade was the best bet. Bullshit.
Me being the original tightass I just had to find out more info.
A big shout out to the MT-10 Brisbane group. After a bit of feedback I got a suspension tuning . XXXRATED Race Suspension and Suspension tuning. check out his Facebook.
/ racesuspensiontuning
Anyway long story short, nothing wrong with my MT-10 suspension. I'm on rails.

[@MOTOUK1]

Nothing wrong with suspension just people need setting up correct for your weight 👍

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Yes, it should be done from pickup at dealer.

[@90dfender]

good answer.

[@dougiequick1]

I am scared to death of adjusting suspension and so for the first 1000 miles I did nothing with my 2023 MT-10 I simply suffered through the brutally harsh suspension. Finally I was reading a couple of posts claiming if you weigh 160ish llbs (73kg) you woud have to remove ALL the preload on forks and still be short on sag (failed to say if with or without GEAR!) well I in fact Iweigh 165 (75kg) but then over 20 llbs (9kg) of gear so 85kg ish my riding weight , It is hard to do at all alone but I determined yeah there was almost no sag in front so I started cranking back the prelad until I can at least FEEL some sag ...so now it has only two turns of preload in the frint and then to try and balance things I backed off two full turns om the rear shock collars. I also had previously backed off one click front and rear on the rebound after watching a video attempting t show how manually compressed and released suspensin looked with too much rebund okay I test rode and it is soooo much more plush to ride! (btw I only ride the twisties I have another bike for touring so this testig is ALL twists and turns at a goodly clip) I mean I was giving it everything I could as I am wary after making significant changes but it SEEMS like I improved things maybe even for fast pace. The latest thing I notice though doing the push down test it seems like the rear compresses much more readil than the front meaning it appears unbalanced as to preload....idk whether to crank mre preload back into the rear? Or take the last tw remaining turns out from the forks? The forks seem to have a lot of internal friction so I dont know if what I am seeing is real or from that? Like maybe the forks just need to "break in" in more? How long should it take to break in new bike's forks? Oh the last thing I will say is I put a tie wrap on my fork leg and I am using all the travel save for slightly less than an inch? Maybe 23mm for you metric types. Anyone else here have the 22+ MT10 that can corroborate any of my findings? BTW if it turned out I am just barely too heavy for these springs I know what I would do BEFORE paying for new springs! Yep new lithium battery and a Graves exhast would drop close to 20llbs (9kg) which would take me down to 165llbs (5kg) total with gear weight (man leathers boots helmet and gloves are HEAVY!)

[@CeeRTee]

Wozza you legend! No reviewer EVER tells people this stuff. It gets on my t*ts when people/reviewers take a stock bike in its showroom trim and potentially destroy it because they dont like the suspension its nuts, its like reviewing a toasters ability to make toast based on the settings it had coming out of the box rather than what u prefer lol. The guy that did my suspension said the mt10 has the same problem as alot of other bikes with perfectly good setups... its not Ohlins, he reckoned if you took a bike with ohlins and set it up like a dog alot of people would still say it was better based on the brand sticker on the legs. Im not saying Ohlins is bad... of course not just wish people would remember that kyb (on the mt10), Showa, WP etc etc is also good kit and is also used by loads of race teams just like Ohlins :).

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

C RT This is right. R1 suspension on a MT-10 doesn't need replacing rather it needs tuning. I was getting sick of the criticism directed at the base model bike and just couldn't get my head around it. So through all this I have a MT-10 that's even better for such a meager outlay. You would think when you purchase a bike through a shop there was a suspension tuner in house. Even if it's extra money, well worth it.

[@Rowdy_Bikes]

Nice vid mate! but I cringed each time he tapped the frame with the spanner wrench 😬

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Thanks mate. Hope it helps. Happy to say, no damage done.

[@SaladDodger1024]

Nice video wozza , keep working on it, quality getting better.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

SaladDodger1024 Thanks mate, good feedback.

[@hawkslayers1]

to say that the mt10 sp is a gimmick and doesnt work because its semi active shows xxx rated suspension has little idea whats hes on about but nice video wozza

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

I understand what your saying. I think what he was saying is there great for the road but no one racing with them. Check out his site. He custom makes winning suspension for raceteams. Highly respected and his work speaks through the racers that win and swear by the suspension he created. So when a team wants to race a R1 yamaha, one of the first things to go is the SP1 suspension. Most of us mortals would be very happy with SP suspension including me and I personally was amazed how much of a improvement it made on my stock setup. Old mate also said the SP setup needs tuning as well. Trust me, it's the best $50 you will spend, whatever bike you run with. Thanks for the feedback. Glad it helps.

[@matthegarty5099]

Hi Wozza I was definitely bottoming out my stock rear shock but I weigh 105kgs, I got a Nitron shock built for my weight, fairly easy to install and it has transformed the bike, I would recommend for heavier riders, the front is fairly heavily sprung standard so I have left it for the time being.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Matt Hegarty In the video Chris Jones talks about the rear shock will need to be upgraded at around 130kg. Mate, you should still get it tuned to you riding style. This guy makes a living getting racebikes over the winners line with his performance race suspension custom made by him. The tune up is to help mugs like me get a better handling road bike. Amazing stuff. Best bang for buck upgrade a person can do to there balls and all ride.

[@petej7534]

Top vid. Hope you're still lovin the bike as I've just purchased one

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Hi mate, congratulations on your MT-10. I don't have one now, I have a Yamaha FZ1n, not quite as manic of the MT-10. Enjoy the ride Pete.

[@elroyscoffee]

Great vid thanks. I have same bike and love it,

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Glad you like. Chris are very good at what they do.

[@vinceslack37]

Hi wozza , I have the same bike loved the suspension tune vid. I would like to know what you thought of the tuned bike. Was it better or nicer to ride. I don’t ride on the track but love to go hard though the hills

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

The best $50 you will ever spend. Everything he said in the video about how my bike would have handled is exactly how it was. It was hard to turn in, I just didn't know. I did lakeside again, it was easier at turning in and better overall. The guy does race bikes. I traveled from Sunshine coast to Rochdale. Worth it.

[@charger348]

Gotta like a mechanical expert that works in his Chinese safety boots lol.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Can judge a book by it's cover. Many race teams all over the world use him. Old school.

[@billdawson2551]

Good video Wozz. I've got the SP but would still like to have my suspension looked over by a professional. How are you finding the changes for your everyday rides ?

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Bill Dawson Mate, I can't believe how much better it is. Turns in easier, doesn't steer wide out of the corners, I just thought it was me and the tyres. At the same track (lakeside) i've done two day rides. The suspension really made the bike that much better on road and track.

[@billdawson2551]

Good on ya Wozza, love ya videos and attituded mate. I've ridden bikes all my life and still cant believe how much I love my Mt10. I only weekend ride done 4000K in 4months. Cant get enough. Lucky down in south OZ weathers pretty good in the winter. I did reach out to the guy that did your suspension but he didn't have a contact for me in Adelaide. Shouldn't be to hard to find someone. Over and out. Billy D

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Bill Dawson Go to the MT Forums. Cheers mate. Enjoy the ride.

[@billdawson2551]

Just came back from having the suspension sag set up for me on the SP. Love it , Tips in way easier and stays on line much better. I used Race bike services in Lonsdale if any one in SA is looking for a place for a setup. They also played with my electronic settings. Thanks for putting up the video mate. Ride safe

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Bill Dawson That's good feedback for SP riders. Old mate was smack on the money when he said a few simple adjustments make a difference. Thanks for the feedback

[@MOTOUK1]

You will notice a difference for the better within 1/4 mile Wozza 👍

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

MOTOUK I did.I thought the responded quite well in all the conditions I rode in. Now it have that superbike edge feeling. Not the ducks nuts, it is however very good.

[@dougiequick1]

My bike! Does this bike have quick shifter? Looks like not? Just a bare bar from shift lever up to shaft lever

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

They don’t come with quickshifter. I can add a quickshifter ,upshift only, cheers.

[@raillore]

hello, can you tell me what are the suspenssion settings on your fz10 (how many clicks). Thank you a lot

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Sorry mate. Wouldn't have a clue. That's why I went to him.

[@WhiskyStuff]

Good video but no conclusion. Did the suspension tune offer a better ride? Too soft or hard? I guess I’m to late to this party for answers. 😢

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

It's absolutely worth setting up your bike to the way you want to ride it. If the standard suspension can be tuned to your weight that's a minimal expense, 'Bang for buck'. I've done exactly the same to my current 2009 FZ1, Dialed. There are video's on both bikes discussing the changes after the tune. The best thing you can do is set your ride up. Tuned suspension can save your life. Thanks David, Cheers, Wozza.

[@yzfr6806]

I am not sure about cranking up the preload of the rearshock that much. You wont have any staticsag left. I would change the spring. The rear of the bike is rigid.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

$50 to tune your suspension. It's a real good starting point.

[@ur2slob724]

Finally mate you went and seen Chris at xxx rated

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

patrick balagtas Best bang for buck upgrade I've done. Well worth it and good to get that advice from others in the know.

[@ur2slob724]

Wozza's Sports Cruiser Rides told you mate best $50 you’ll ever spend! Let me know when your around Brisbane mate will take you for a ride up nebo/glorious cafe

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

patrick balagtas Sure, I'm more midweek and occasionally on a Sunday.

[@ur2slob724]

Mid weeks perfect wed-fri off every week 😉

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

patrick balagtas Sounds like a plan. Wednesday. Are you North or South. Meet a Gap B.P if this works. I'm up at the coast so if your from up this way change the meeting point. I like early starts, you tell me what suits better. Cheeks. P.M me if you want on Facebook Warren Burton.

[@johngilmour2317]

Every time that C spanner hit the frame. 😵

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

happy to say 'no damage at all'.

[@adriantompson]

nothing wrong with mt10sp suspension setting sag is good if you ride one up but setting sag when you ride fast two up is not a good thing to do . im lucky with sp as its a flick of a switch to go from very firm to not so firm . like the tuner says you set your sus for every track. you would be setting it up for every road you ride. oilins is brilliant on road. if your bike isnt turning try different tyres first as stock tyres on mt10 are slow turning in. if you put braided hoses on you would have to firm front up to stop bike diveing when you hit brakes, if you dont no what your doing you can fuck it wright up good job you got a pro setting it up. differnt people like there bikes set up to suit there style of riding . the tuner just gave you a base setting with the sag set wright for you on your own.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

adrian tompson The tuning said there's nothing wrong with them for the road. Your settings do everything except sag in front and rear. Has the SP got a bigger rear spring than standard because it doesn't both bikes are rated at the same weight. He also said that professional races remove the sp suspension for racing because Dymamic isn't up for the job. The standard isn't either so why would me personally waste 3k or 4k on a SP. The dash is beautiful, the suspension still needs upgrading to race and so does the brakes. These bikes are more than most people can handle so in my opinion the extra money isn't going to make the riding faster, tuning your suspension is going to give you the best out of your bike including having to set sag for the front and rear on your SP. This has to be done by a tuner. Not my words but the words of a professional that does it for a living. He said off camera that he has tuned plenty of SP-10s. Set the Dynamic suspension to race, Tune suspension for sag, then change it back for highway use including sag front and rear. I found this video very good for real information about our bikes, I hope you have as well. Cheers.

[@adriantompson]

on the road ohlins is very good take an sp out for a week on roads then take any other bikes out different makes . the money is worth it. every bike ive tested hasnt come close to the ohlins on the sp . your mt getting bit old get a sp and then tell us what you think.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

adrian tompson Mate, your a little sensitive. I did forget to say my old , glapped out MT-10 is on rails. Best bang for buck mod out there. That's what this information video in about, real information not bullshit.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

adrian tompson Yes, I also meant to said the Dynamic suspension on the road would be good. This is just an educational video because I felt the Standard MT-10 was coping alot of criticism. So I new I needed to seek a professional with a proven track record. There are people that save and just able to afford the standard MT-10. The R1 suspension is very good in the standard MT-10 and should receive the proper information and facts on these amazing bike. You would now yourself doing video our job is to give people information of places, facts, people etc. I felt there was too much criticism of the standard modile. That's all. You will find 20000klms al mew bikes just start to run in so I was a little surprised at your comment. Cheers to you, ride safe.

[@adriantompson]

my criiticism is why do people run down ohlins i put a vid ohlins does work ebc pads because people were saying it was crap to soft. i know he didnt ride a bike fast because what they said about it. stock sus is very good on the standerd mt10 ive never herd any one complain about it and i know one or two nutters. as for sp its only 10 pounds a month more on the pcp deal as you get a lot more on the sp it was well worth it.was only winding you up about your bike been old was only pulling your leg . you probly spent a lot more on it with all the mods you put on it. people say mt10 are slow there full of shit. ive got respect for people that use the 10 and not complain about such a capable bike. the bigust change ive made is tyres and they dont cost nothing if your tyres are bold

[@SmokinZen]

Can you give us the adjustment setting he did so we can try it ourselves 😬

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

SmokinZen I can't mate. Each bike is different and the rider wants it set differently. The guy before had set his for more Highway use and his settings were all over the place. For this video it's about a professional adjusting suspension.

[@SmokinZen]

Wozza's Sports Cruiser Rides fair enough, I adjusted mine a little and it mad a world of difference I’m on a 1600 mile ride right now my suspension feels good so far, considering the load I’m carrying, it’s been smooth and hey the power is like I’m not carrying nothing still a beast.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

SmokinZen Mate, don't mess with it now. I reackon you could pull a Mack truck out of a bog with these bikes. I'm jealous your on such a road trip. Enjoy and i'll ckeck KZbin to see if you're posting.

[@RRatedCustoms]

Great video! 3K on suspension reminds me of folks here spending on the Harleys to be more "powerful". I bet your bike stock will eat most of our lunches. 3K is a lot of money for bikes not racing. I know you race, but folks I know in person don't so I don't get it...

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Your absolutely right, It's bullshit. This is R1 suspension, fully tuneable. My bike was good before, now after tuning the suspension, ($50) it's on rails. And that was the thing, I've spent a lot of money on performance and handling on Harley's so when I was getting this feedback I just couldn't believe what I was hearing

[@RRatedCustoms]

Wozza's Sports Cruiser Rides Kudos to you for finding a true subject matter expert. I learned a lot from just watching this video.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Anthony C. Roberson Mate, when in doubt, ask for the best. The boy's at Brisbane MT-10 group recommend him. Quite a few hits about him. Go check out his facebook. Guys saying thanks for the win in races with his suspension setup. Aussie battler keeping it real.

[@tonypammen6150]

I agree with the suspension bloke about the sag, but to say that the active suspension is a gimmick because racers don’t use it is missing the point, I have the MT10 SP and with a touch of the screen I can tighten the suspension for a Trackday and on the ride home go back to a more comfortable ride. And I don’t see worldsupebikes using MT10’s in any case. So a pointless comparison.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Yes, I've had a few people say that. I guess his talking from his racing setup back ground. His Son is doing very well with Chris doing his Custom Racing Suspension and I've seen his posts around the world setting up his sons bike. He is very good at it and I'm sure he might have not said anything if he felt it might have upset people. Or maybe he still would, quite old school. Thanks Tony, I did the FZ1 as well with him and made a huge difference. The SP you would be very happy with.

[@chem599]

They dont run dynamic suspension in racing because its against the rules, BSB, WSB MOTGP

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Chris is the expert from xxxrated suspension.

[@Yamaprilia]

Mate you are incorrect. The mt10 does NOT have r1 suspension. They are the same make but r1 has differnt internals in the front. Different part numbers and alot different price. Plus the rear shock is differnt. The r1 is better and has adjustable height too. As a guide the r1 suspension is under damped, my suspension is maxed out on the front to get the required damping needed. So im expecting the mt10 to be even more under damped and softer

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Thanks for you feedback.

[@90dfender]

mr Yamaha sets all suspension to average weight height.

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

I'm of average height and weight, well probably on the heavier side of average and the set up was completely out from New. Dealers should offer suspension tune as part of the buyers experience. It's not much of an outlay, it is however a big advantage and difference in rider experience.

[@AdryDoic]

he has no idea what he is doing ...

[@WozzasSportsCruiserRides]

Liam Waters, Taiyo Aksu, Glen Nelson, Ricky Rice and many more guys and lady's that race bikes professionally and amateur, casual riders and anyone else can testify how good Chris is. You clearly have no idea.