2019 Ultimate Driver Bracket FINAL | Epic Flash VS. G410LST VS. M5

[@andrewbentley2593]

Cheers guys. Have absolutely loved this whole contest. Please can we have some more? Fairways next.

[@tomgregory6275]

I worked for a large USA Insurance Company for over 40 years, my major in college was Economics, minor was "Statistical Analysis" and seldom do I see a well done "Random Statistical Sample" made and published for KZbin or for any advertised product for that matter, but I will tip my hat to your very objective and scientific demonstration which has a clear outcome, also I predict this will be known as a "Rosetta Stone Study" that all who understand Statistics as a science will clearly see how valuable a blind study can be for finding the right club. Kudos and great job..Great Job and I just purchased a G 410 with 40 g Reg Flex shaft, played it twice and I am satisfied that it is the best driver for me. I am 72 years old and shoot in the 70's, Thanks for keepin my game as good as it can be...

[@parnopsiripornpak428]

Fantastic video guys. It's been fun watching these series and as expected from G410LST, but wasn't expecting M5 to do so well. Can't wait to see 410LST VS 400LST.

[@cpcanales76]

Omg guys!!! I started this vid at around 3:00 eastern time. Had to leave for a while to get kids to bible school. Bout to watch the rest.... go PING!!!!! Lol. Im so glad i fount yalls channel bros!!!! Yall and golfholics are the best!!!!! And matty freakin bombs the ball!!! Its so awesome to watch!!! If yall ever in NC, i live 35 minutes south of pinehurst, and 2 hours away from myrtle beach which is a must!!!!! Thx guys for awesome content!!!

[@ianfrasergolf]

cpcanales76 👍🏻

[@medfloat5001]

What a great series fellas. Well done. The winner was clearly the Ping and evident prior to the numbers but the numbers were closer than the ball flights indicated. Again another great job from TXG. This also confirms ‘you get what you pay for’ and ‘get fit’!

[@ziggy_rampage]

what a finale! i cannot thank you guys enough, for all your time and dedication to the channel. its my 'GO TO' golf channel for specs and gear. keep up the great work. come to australia :)

[@jeffreykatz1330]

Well Done by far the best driver comparison done on the web!

[@kurtvonsavoye5851]

Great series guys. Would love to see a similar competition targeting mid handicap golfers with a more moderate swing speed. It would be interesting to see how the low spin drivers compare against the higher MOI models when hit by someone with a slower swing speed and a less consistent strike pattern.. Keep up the great work!

[@chriselerick5674]

good video guys. it’s been a fun follow. i didn’t always agree with the conclusions along the way, but this one was a clear winner. matt has a comfort level with the ping that can’t be ignored. thanks for taking us along for the ride!

[@Knickerson]

Thanks, Ian and Matt. This has been a fun time watching the bracket. I agree with other comments, would love to see this done with fairway woods.

[@dark1382]

I love the way you calculated the winner! Awesome

[@TheBfhawki]

Good jobs guys. Really enjoyed this series.

[@calvinmillar8724]

Great video series guys. Absolutely loved watching, all the way from Australia. Been hanging for this final installment for days. Every day I woke, this was the first thing I looked for haha. TM fan myself, but that G410 🙌👌

[@ianfrasergolf]

Calvin millar really appreciate you joining us Calvin!! 👍🏻

[@jonathanbalangon9671]

Thanks to TXG, I wouldnt have been able to sleep at night if swingweights weren't equal.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Jonathan Balangon 🤣🤣🤣, me either!!!

[@prestonprice2257]

Absolutely a thrill to watch this whole series. I also love the idea of using a "total driving" stat to determine the winner. Keep up the great work. You guys should consider doing a fitting tour here in the states. I would sign up to get fitted by you guys. Have Trackman, will travel...

[@MK355]

Great final, have loved this series!

[@jeremystafford8374]

Fantastic performance from Matt . Have loved this content, thanks for your efforts. Please do this with all clubs.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Jeremy Stafford Thank you Jeremy!!

[@gregwayne6785]

Fun competition. Thanks guys!

[@christophermatthews4896]

Like that you guys used the formula!!! Great series :) look forward to seeing it with the new drivers that come out!

[@keithbattle2706]

This was a very well produced series and highly entertaining.

[@garythomson4536]

Great final video guys. Loved the full series

[@luisrepreza174]

Fun watching you guys in this series. I wonder what Matt is thinking about the results after testing so many drivers. Can't wait to see the Ping's battle!!

[@alexmurray3767]

Great content. Love the equation. Crazy close results. So much fun. Looking forward to the head to head results. Always a question as to whether the upgrade is worth it. Thanks. PS, Ian, love the new clubs!

[@darynhendershot9952]

Always awesome stuff gentlemen!

[@lhk1951]

absolutely loved this format. the equation was sot on. you guys are the best. keep it up.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Lawrence Kaye thanks Lawrence!!

[@andywallace560]

So pleased the G410 won, I use a Rogue, and have tried the G410 plus and find it so much more forgiving, easier to draw and it just seems to go forever, and that's after dropping down to a reg shaft. keenly anticipate the next in the series. Great work lads.

[@paulkoppenheffer5323]

Great contest. Great videos all the way through to the conclusion.

[@kellypadgett9160]

Great work guys. Great series on the drivers. Look forward to next years contest if you decide to do it again.

[@qnpmh]

BIG THANKS TXG FOR THIS SERIES; LAST YEAR EPIC FLASH SUBZERO WAS GOING TO BE THE REPLACEMENT FOR MY M3. AFTER THIS VLOG AND TESTING THE PING G410 PLUS EVENFLOW 75G 6.0 THE STABILITY, ACCURACY, FORGIVENESS IS UNMATCHED. MY GAMER IS IN ROUTE NOW! HONESTLY I HAVE NOT BEEN THIS EXCITED ABOUT A NEW DRIVER; EVEN NURSING AN INJURY. TOP MARKS AGAIN TXG!!!!

[@fuzzybunny6267]

Great series guys. Keep it the content rolling

[@stevenmellor1815]

I wonder if previous results would have been different had you guys used the "total driving" chart. Matty is definitely a Ping man by the looks of it, awesome to watch! Looking forward to the next bracket 👍 thanks guys

[@ianfrasergolf]

Steven Mellor no question he does great with Ping drivers, it was close but Ping was a deserved winner.

[@stevenmellor1815]

Very deserved winner indeed! Has made me look at Ping drivers closer as i prefer heavier heads 👍

[@andystone5493]

Great show guys. I’m currently putting the G400 LST against my M5 and finding them very close. Looks like I may need to through the 410 in the mix. Thanks again for the way you do what you do.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Andy Stone cheers Andy, we appreciate your support!!

[@barrymills8597]

Maybe not how I would have picked a winner but the correct result just the same. Matt hit the ping brilliantly. Great video guys as always.

[@rockyhoughtaling2007]

I loved this bracket series!!! Hopefully we'll get a new one next year. I can't imagine next year's technology is gonna that much better tho. Either way, this bracket was a fun series to watch!!! Good stuff gentlemen...

[@ianfrasergolf]

Rocky Houghtaling cheers Rocky!! 👍🏻

[@mr.obvious1000]

Great series fellas. Next logical step since this one did so well is to do a fairway wood bracket. Although you might come to the same conclusion, bc the ping g410 fairway may be even better than the driver!

[@En5an3]

Top shelf content as always lads!! Can we get a review of the new Titleist utility irons? Fascinated to hear what you boys have to say about the new 1 iron

[@2222skinny]

You guys are the best great vid loved the whole month Matt you are an absolute animal hitting bombs

[@kyleheffner2285]

You guys should do a head to head with irons. Say high handicap/mid handicap/and low handicap iron sets. Hit the PW, 7, and 4 iron or something along those lines. Videos will be longer but it would be awesome. Love the content and keep it up!

[@Notyouraveragecfo]

Awesome as always.... Thank guys. Best golf vids around....

[@jamesquan8727]

Thank you for your hard work guys and a great finally, the results seem fair and really it’s less than .1 percent when you think about it so all driver models in this category have pretty much long distance wise. The winner for me is the Ping purely for its outstanding forgiveness and fairway finding head. I love my F9 but I from time to time go back to my G lst for confidence building . Thank you again and great job lads

[@ianfrasergolf]

James Quan cheers James!!

[@rjsilman]

Another fantastic and fun video. Thanks, guys! Keep up the great work.

[@gawiemalan15]

This was awesome, well done guys

[@InsuranceSpecialist]

Watching again a yr later, great channel

[@paulmoscicki2038]

Gentlemen, thank you for a very enjoyable series. A bit of a shame that it is over. I agree with a previous person in that I would like to see a similar series with a golfer with approximately a 100 mph swing speed. Would an emphasis on shafts then come more into play? Thank you.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Paul Moscicki Thanks Paul for tuning in with us for the series Paul!! 👍🏻

[@paulbown3960]

Top stuff as usual boys You are the Ping G410 LST of KZbin !

[@BirdiesandBitcoin]

Great vid! Would be interesting to do the same test on a different day and see if the results change at all.

[@zacharymilos392]

I know you guys already have so much on your plate, but us data nerds would love to see this type of testing done with ALL clubs in the bag.I would love to see fairways done and oddly enough I'd like to possibly see wedges. Like putter, I think not enough people really do wedge testing, maybe seeing you guys shed some light on it could change that.

[@keithfinley2939]

Go LST! I wonder if adding the lead tape, however expertly applied, threw M5 off enough to create more offline results?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Keith Finley watch our Video this week on swing weight and the effects it can have on certain players. We do some testing with counter balanced shafts, the result is very interesting.

[@erikcrossley5048]

Can't wait for that. My M5s came in at a C7 swing weight, really struggled with them. Put tape on them, got them to D0 and played much better. Sent them back, TM put beads in the hosel but left tape on to get D1. Now struggling to hit them again, possible to get more heal striking with extra weight just in the hosel?

[@stevenroberson951]

Keith Finley I was thinking the same ,so I went back and watched the first semifinal with M5 and both Matt and Ian commented that M5 dispersion was crazy small

[@erikcrossley5048]

#setupforPingtowin #mattyonlyswingsPing ;)

[@shawnmichael9503]

Keith Finley absolutely did! Totally different dispersion from first two rounds to the final. I own an M5 and added an extra movable weight and it totally changed how I hit it.

[@genebohannon]

Great test

[@bigr2305]

Yeah, even without the chart it was clear who the winner was! Love that the channel is fair and impartial!!

[@superci]

The m5 head you showed with lead tape was a 10.5 head, did you use a 10.5 head adjusted down to 9 degrees or a 9 degree head?

[@ianfrasergolf]

superci the M5 was 10.5 open so played 9.5.

[@hall401]

Matty that dispersion circle with the ping is money!! Great swingin’

[@mattsheehan5033]

Phenomenal video!

[@alimatte1]

Great series guy's thank you. I enjoyed watching.

[@qnpmh]

EXCELLENT REVIEW, TXG!!! I CERTAINLY WILL CONSIDER THE PING G410 LST

[@mynigga7451]

Not me I will getting the M5 sound on the club is unmatch

[@wesleyburgess31]

This is the best golf channel on KZbin! I need a t-shirt or head over or something lol.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Wes B head on over the online store Wes!! 🙌🏻

[@wesleyburgess31]

@@ianfrasergolf I am definitely going to do that asap.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Wes B 🙏🏻

[@wayneball9079]

Love the series of videos but I don’t believe you should’ve changed the rules for the final. The drivers made the final in a certain way but then for the grand final they had to be weighted the same ? If they qualified having to be the same weight then you might’ve had 3 different drivers in the final.

[@whiskerrub]

I’ll say it again Subscribe cause this channel is killing it in informative and entertaining videos! Great work gentlemen definitely appreciate all your hard work!👍

[@peterlund6495]

Fantastic video lads like you say it confims you must be correctly fitted for your club's.

[@JamesThompson-zl2sk]

Nice to see subscriber numbers still rising. For the difference between the drivers I think look and feel would pay a big factor for me as I’ve said before seen so many people hit the ping well but for me to much going on with the top of the driver and I personally don’t think it makes much difference. Nice to see if it could be proved if it does or not. But again video shows how a good fitting should go.

[@MurphyGreg]

Love the whole series guys :)

[@drroger98]

Great video. I really like the additional info in number of bad strikes. Wish there was a way to quantify it also as well as how often there was a two way miss. A consistent 20 yard only right is better than 14 left and right when really gaming a driver even though the second would be 28 yds total miss vs 40 in the first in your current algorithm

[@davefawkes8884]

Superb videos guys.... keep up the great work 👌🏻

[@tomburlison7785]

Great comparison. I’m having a tough decision between Epic Flash SZ and TS2 but I’m using different shafts so it’s hard to decide. I’m liking the CK Pro White 70TX in the TS2 a bit better than the Epic SZ with an Orange CK Pro 70. The Epic SZ cuts right thru the wind. The TS2 balloons just slightly but still goes far. I have a nice little draw with the TS2. The Epic I tend to get just a little snappy. I might move the weight to the toe like you did and/or loft it up to 10.5 from 9. The TS2 is a 10.5. I have a TS2 9 also I need to compare. I need to try the Ping 410 LST now!

[@SWind-hz5gx]

THX TXG

[@gtfan998]

Ahhhhhh been hanging out for this one keep it up guys

[@maydaymechanicmusic]

Amazing content! Thanks guys!

[@matthewallard6058]

Well done boys on the final .. once again great video

[@michaeljbrennan3728]

Hey Gents, where is your club fitting facility located?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Michael J Brennan Toronto

[@michaeljbrennan3728]

Bummer. The import feed and taxes would be a killer.

[@paulp2055]

Very interesting overall comparison...just shows how good most of the equipment is today & how a lot of times it will come down to a personal preference such as sound or looks!

[@benjaminwarchow3419]

Great reviews and testing. A really true indication of how good the current drivers are today and the close comparisons between all brands. Well down 👍🏼

[@russellambrosini5344]

Excellent job and the wild card takes it ! I think the g410 will be a great upgrade for mat mainly because of the movable weight and the fact that it seems to be less busy on top. Not to mention the fact that he probably knows a guy who knows a guy that can get him one pretty cheap

[@rufussthoo4083]

Great series of videos guys. It seems like this would be the ultimate way to do a fitting but I don't think we mere mortals could afford that option, or manage to hit 450 driver shots in the process ...

[@juwadanah]

great video guys, has really opened my eyes about different driver heads.

[@clevited]

An idea for you guys. A lot of these launch monitors have very questionable flight algorithms, especially when it comes to modeling carry distance of low spin, high launch driver shots. I have always wished I had the time and resources to find out how far off they are. I was hoping to test doing either one of the following methods. Use Trackman outdoors, on a flat range, on a calm day. Hit driver with several players that can hit optimal carry conditions with their strikes. I would want to get players such that a range of ball speeds are covered. I would note the temp, pressure and wind if any at all (ideally as calm as possible). Other method would be to have a spotter out in the field and use a GC2 or GCQ to record launch data and actual carry. I really think the only way to get a reliable ball flight model is through lots and lots of empirical data. Would be interesting to see differences in balls if much aerodynamic wise as well.

[@VERTICALWisdom]

Great video - Looks to me like Matt can hit a shovel 300+ Ah, to be young and strong again....:)

[@svenhallauer3229]

Really enjoyed this series! Too bad for Ping that they released the 410 LST so late in the year and they missed my personal testing and were thus not considered - that doesn't mean I'm unhappy at all with my Epic Flash Sub Zero (it edged the M5 just slightly and the F9 by a bit more).

[@painless4785]

Great series guys. Wonder if any results would change if you went back and did this on all the brackets... My guess is it would change it a lot; Offline yards would never be the main factor if taken in a 1:1 ratio when subtracting from total yards.... Further, would really you use this table with total yards offline - total distance for your fittings Ian? Why or Why not? Don't you think premium on offline yards should be more than 1:1 ratio? or maybe less if someone can hit a club 250 (higher offline) vs 220 (very accurate). Just thinking out loud.

[@ericherring3321]

Well done Fellas!

[@qwertyuiop4991]

Superb Content. my go to golf channel on youtube. Just keep doing what you're doing.

[@jlnew10]

Excellent, looked forward to following each segment of the driver bracket shoot out. Maybe fit Matty doing an iron shoot out fitting, same bracket system.

[@JuanRodriguez-wk7mm]

Any chance of doing a comparison between the original Epic Sub Zero and the Epic flash? I am curious if there is any difference.

[@Forumrida38621]

I really like the way you did the Excel sheet.. I'd be curious to see you do that same breakdown for the other rounds and see if anyone got snubbed aka mizzy haha #mizunofanboy here lol

[@ianfrasergolf]

bobby d 🤣🤣, don’t worry Bobby i’m a Mizzy fanboy too!!

[@neilclarke3513]

Is there golf software somewhere that thinks 40 plus 40 equals zero? I do know there is.. annoys me all the time. Not your problem! Great comp...thx.

[@cwones8904]

Great work guys, raising the bar! 🏗

[@chrisfreitag2603]

Boom, boom, Ping. Is that thunder, no just Matt launching them into the stratosphere. Very close, but I like the way you took total offline yards into account to estimate longest and straightest. Well done.

[@SecondTimothy224through26]

Matt’s dispersion with the Ping is something to aspire to; very impressive

[@calvinmillar8724]

So is Matty putting the LST in his bag?

[@shawndgee]

I chaps nothing beats a persimmon, and a hotdog with anchovy's, green olives and mayo. Greeeat review.

[@ianfrasergolf]

Shawn Grinstead 🤣

[@scottgibbs7235]

I like the new system. My only thing I would add is for me I would rather have a driver that is slightly more offline but misses on the correct side. But I don’t know how you would quantify that.

[@georgebroom8517]

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!". 400 v 410....YES!!!! Great series TXG. Agree with the result, & well done Matt, good hitting as usual .👍 Now that it is Ping v Ping for a spot in the bag are you going to optimise both, even different shafts if necessary to produce their best numbers...?

[@ianfrasergolf]

George Broom we filmed that episode today George, great head to head!!

[@georgebroom8517]

@@ianfrasergolf Brilliant..."We're not Worthy" 👍

[@allenwilson8913]

This has been a fun series.

[@mitchleask1368]

I think I called G410 lst right back at the first video in the series :) This was a great series guys. Are you putting Matt's 3 wood in the firing line next?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Tipsy McStagger no he’s really happy with his Titleist 4w

[@robertleejr.3886]

Would have love to see the the Epic Flash set to 9° like the others. Seemed to lose some distance in spin and height vs the others. That being said, awesome video

[@aidanboyce1836]

I just got my g410 lst with a hazardous green smoked small batch shaft in it and I love it so stable and long

[@danthemanwhocancan]

The Hulk

[@adamboyle3331]

The equation was great to see. Good idea whoever suggested that.

[@raycarreon1412]

Will you guys do a Fairway wood challenge?

[@mikecook8059]

Interesting info!! Great job guys! Not sure it corresponds to my real world experiences but it was fun to watch!!

[@ianfrasergolf]

Mike Cook like we said Mike, everyone will likely experience different results.

[@michaeljbrennan3728]

Excellent formula to get proper results.

[@oldgold5848]

Great stuff guys! Matt has been eating his shredded wheat again!