2020 Jeep Wrangler EcoDiesel - Brutally Honest Long Term OWNER Review

[@Casey250]

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[@aceforever001]

Any chance youz guyz can convert one of those stickers into a Magnet???? I'm super duper against putting stickers on my vehicles, but magnets are a go! Please please please 🙏

[@vegasxventures]

My dad: drives same truck for 15 years and still going strong KZbinrs after 8 months: long term review

[@dustincharron2081]

VegasXventrues cool story bro 👍🏽

[@vegasxventures]

@@dustincharron2081 cool comment, bro?

[@Casey250]

8 months is a long yime on the internet.

[@lance4906]

To be fair, by that time, the people who are using this video for reference on whether to get one or not would have already gotten one lol.

[@vegasxventures]

@@lance4906 I hope he keeps it at least two to three years, then I’ll decide if the eco diesel or the I-4. 😂

[@Frostytravels]

One tip on DEF, it does expire. You need to check that DEF, as once it goes bad it can become a major problem. Having a 2500 HD and traveling a lot I became aware quickly on expired DEF. It will cause major problems and codes. Being urea based it expires pretty quickly.

[@sgtshultz13]

Long term review? I’m driving a 2012 JK now that’s long term.

[@eno2870]

Same here. Considering trading it in on basically exactly what's shown in this video. Went to the dealership and test drove the diesel.. it was a noticeable difference in power and acceleration. My 2012 sport with the larger tires has always struggled to accelerate and maintain speed, but that diesel sure didn't. Noise wasn't even a factor - if anything it was quieter outside than my 2012, and inside was far quieter (even without the headliner, which my 2012 also lacks).

[@CoffeeBeanFiend]

How’s she running

[@eno2870]

@@CoffeeBeanFiend - Had a number of issues over the years. Heater failed on the driver side twice over and needed replacing (which is apparently a known issue with this year, manufacturing defect of some sort). Had a random multiple cylinder misfire code pop up that led to the dealership tearing the engine apart, which was covered by the warranty thankfully. It complained for years about anything that wasn't premium fuel, kicking a code for a fuel/O2 balance issue. An O2 sensor was apparently the issue.. but it still does it from time to time even after replacing that.. so, yeah. Who knows. The muffler literally rusted away to nothing after only 5 years and needed replacing.. that was a first. Oh, and it pops out of first gear (it's a manual) about 0.5 to 1% of the time when starting out. Apparently that's just a Jeep thing X_X It's the most troublesome vehicle I've ever owned if I'm being honest (the other two both being Honda Civics that I never had to do a damn thing to), but I still prefer it. Certainly hoping that a new one won't have all the same issues all over again.

[@tacoeatinmonkey]

Pshh. Long term? I'm driving a 2006 TJ now that's long term.

[@MrSpccdavid]

Wow that’s so cool

[@jeffsaraiva7099]

The angle of the head rest is actually a regulation as I understand, but I think that if enough people complain about it they will make it so you can adjust it. I had to bend the rods back on mine (they are hollow and easy to bend) because it was also pushing my head too far forward. I am glad I am not the only one complaining about that.

[@DrWardner]

I’ve had my eco diesel for about three months now, and I have it on BFG KM3 39’s with stock 3.73:1 gear ratio. Definitely not lacking in power at all. I’m averaging about 19.5 around town, 22.5 highway. I’m considering a re gear to 4.27 or 4.56, just to bring my fuel economy back up. I LOVE this engine. IMO, it’s the best platform jeep has ever put in a wrangler.

[@Casey250]

Hows the dana 44 handling the big tires? I want to go bigger but worry.

[@generalsoul1]

@@Casey250 To my knowledge the biggest tire they recommend on Dana 44 axles is 36.5. The weight of a 35” tire is roughly 60lbs. 40” tire would be roughly 95lbs depending on the tire. So that’s 380lbs versus 240lbs. So running 40s on a Dana 44 with no regear seems pretty risky. Even with the regear it’s risky because they don’t recommend over a 36.5 for it. Which really means it’s safest to run 35’s with Dana 44 axles. Should upgrade to Dana 60’s to run 40s to be safe. UNLESS the jeep doesn’t go off-road. AT ALL. Then running 40’s would be fine without upgrading axles.

[@tree356]

Twist the door catch “just a little to the right” before re-attach, then push the bend to fold inwards towards the door as door closes. This worked perfectly with mine and no more worries.✌🏼🇺🇸

[@Casey250]

Thank you

[@MarshalMSW]

one thing to note Casey is that DEF fluid many times have been expired yet still sit in stock, there is a way to check on the box or bottle. One thing i did was go to a commercial vehicle gas station for semi trucks and what not, and they have DEF fluid pumps just the same as a gas pump, and that fluid is constantly being used and cycled through, so you know it will never be expired.

[@Casey250]

I have heard about older DEF causing problems with the injector.

[@uf92134]

Casey, I have had my '21 JLURD for two months and I've got 4,500 miles on it. I agree 100% with your review. One important thing I've noticed is that when off-road with my 3.0L ecoDiesel, I can climb hills in 4Hi that I used to use 4Lo in my TJ with a 4.0L engine. The other thing I've noticed is how many different systems are controlled by the computer, and sometimes when I get a warning or error message I have to shut down and restart in order to clear the error. It reminds of rebooting my computer when Windows-95 first came out.

[@Casey250]

Oh ya. 4 high is used waayyy more in my Ecodiesel

[@joshlotoczky8084]

Unplug the door cable and twist it one time. It will keep it from sticking out as much. Not perfect but definitely better.

[@ericparisien3051]

You beat me to it! That was so annoying!

[@Casey250]

Thanks!!

[@ratedgarr]

You are a saint...thanks for the tip! Drives me absolutely insane

[@nagazinafireworks7594]

I WILL TRY THAT THANKS JOSH

[@mehdisy3d]

Excellent review, thanks! I just got my '22 Rubicon 4xe. I love this thing and am getting 4.9L/100 kms - mind you I'm mainly within my city but do occasional highway driving.

[@alf4536]

I had the same problem with my fiesta st headrest. Just Bend the headrest bar in a vise. Work perfect.

[@steamtorch]

Local dealer (Michigan) offers $100 ecodiesel oil and filter changes. Maybe 40% more than a gasser but not outrageous.

[@dieseldrax]

Holy smokes, I had no idea FCA changed the oil spec for the new EcoD. I love that my wife's EcoD calls for 5w40 HDEO (Rotella T6), which is cheap and easy to find. Switching back to the euro-spec oils sucks. Sorry to hear they did that.

[@parisachilles2682]

EGR was a nightmare on these engines when they came out in 2014, and emissions will continue to be the most problematic, costly issue you will deal with, especially out of warranty. EGR still causes an inordinate amount of soot to build in the intake, causing premature engine failure. Without the EGR, the engine is a solid, long lasting unit in its current form.

[@Indianrider65]

I bet my VW diesel makes a million mile mark when this one dies at 100-250,000 miles WITH its mulitple aging problems. Jeep has never had a quality diesel nor one that gets any real mpg. 30 minimum mpg with VW in my Jeep with 5 speed. low gear fr and rear 307s

[@1gr8oil]

Paris Achilles.........I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.0 L Diesel, and have 85,000 miles. Great fuel mileage! The new for 2021 "Eco-Diesel" has 80 Percent new engine parts, so it is now more powerful, ie. 260 HP/480 Ft Lbs. Torque.

[@Brandt1776]

@@Indianrider65 It’s a fiat motor.

[@joebarbera1366]

Casey thanks for all your feedback, super helpful! You helped me make my decision to order an eco diesel today in the gladiator.

[@alikalik7448]

You

[@wimvanacker714]

I have owned my Wrangler EcoDiesel for a year and love it

[@crazymonkey7291]

His feedback is aweful

[@wissamharb5684]

That is one of the coolest looking wranglers I've seen bro! Getting a white sahara unlimited next month!

[@YoungBlaze]

High altitude?

[@garym9433]

Casey, excellent long term review of the JL. This is the only comprehensive long term review of the JL Ecodiesel out there!

[@Casey250]

Ya Ive put it through its paces for sure haha

[@garym9433]

@@Casey250 Yes, You have! I am still amazed by the phenomenal mileage with the 37” tires.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

only problem i have with my JL (it's a 2.0 I4) is the seats SUCK. did a 7 hour drive to moab and almost had a completely numb butt and legs when we got there. not to mention every day was an additional 7 hours behind the wheel minimum, and that drive home. jeep needs to address that...

[@rolloverrob902]

I drove mine almost from the Canada border to San Francisco over two days and was actually surprised how comfortable it was. It seems people either like or love these seats.

[@Casey250]

They arent great but I can do some long stints with them that was way worse in the Jk for sure.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

@@Casey250 if i put the seat up in a position that doesn't make my legs numb, i can't see the stoplights when i'm 1st in line here in town lol! it's when I lower it enough to see properly that it puts all that pressure on the backs of my legs. i'm not even that tall at 5-11 lol! i didn't have this issue in my JK, could see stop lights perfect so i'm not sure what the big change was.

[@chybagus]

There's only a couple of downsides: 1.) If you run low on the trail 99% of Jeeps are gas, and some places don't sell diesel 2.) If you need to run the engine all night for a/c or heat to sleep, this slightly louder engine will upset some people wheras the gas engine is quite a bit quieter. But oh that diesel torque off road must be amazing. Bring on the electric Jeep that charges in 5 minutes and goes 1000 miles... :)

[@Casey250]

Diesel has never been a problem to find as its widely consumed by many work and transport vehicles.

[@chybagus]

@@Casey250 maybe it's different in different parts of the country/world, but sometimes (about 1 out of every 4) fuel stations here in Southern California don't have it.

[@keither7731]

Hi Casey: Very honest review, just finished watching Brad (Trail Recon)give his review of his Wrangler Diesel Almost the same. Good to know. Take care, enjoy all your videos.

[@phoenixtheharley5132]

I thought to myself that I'm pretty comfortable in my JL, then I realized that I'm a staggering 5'3. Great video overall!

[@Casey250]

Haha.

[@YoungBlaze]

Guy or girl?

[@irvinmoore6479]

Nice review, I have ~27500 miles on mine and the only issue I have had is the connector for the rear window defroster. 3” lift with 37’s on Nomad wheels, my fuel economy mirrors yours.

[@Chadnmurfreesboro]

Wow, you guys getting 19 and 26 with 37s? I bet the gas guys are left sitting with their mouths open..I have a RAM 1500 with the Eco and love it. What gearing comes with the Rubicon Eco, or are there choices there?

[@daveoschann1538]

Hey Casey it's been touched on here and I didn't go through all the replies. I'm a firefighter and we started off using the same def and we had a ton of def injector failures due to it crystalizing and plugging it up. We went to the def at the pumps and it fixed the problem. At the very least never put a jug back in the garage once the seal has been broken. Just chuck it.

[@Casey250]

I've heard similar and don't use old DEF.

[@MaxOverland]

Thanks for the review boss! My new gladiator diesel rubicon should be here next week! I enjoyed my gas gladiator. But I’m beyond excited to get the diesel version! Nice review sir! Enjoy your content also.

[@claytondennis8034]

The headrest should be adjustable. Pull it all the way forward, and the ratchet should release to the furthest rearward position.

[@matthewg.garcia9415]

Just bought a used JK. Didn't realize how much I was going to love Jeep (I am normally a Toyota guy). Now been thinking about getting either 2.0L turbo or the diesel. Basically will come down to whether I want 2 or 4 door (diesel only available on 4 door). I think it's a good idea to get the eco diesel on the 4 door.

[@darickymeister]

I've got a 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland - Diesel. Solid rig.

[@ridgefrost]

The best person to review a jeep is someone from a big country or someone into big cars but isn't from north america

[@tedpendagast579]

Huh??

[@christopherrobinson8676]

Diesel Gladiator ordered before Thanksgiving. Should be here around the New Year. Getting excited.

[@Casey250]

Congratulations

[@bradthornton2394]

ordered my 2021 gladiator on October 3rd... still waiting.

[@christopherrobinson8676]

@@bradthornton2394 hoping yours has found it's way home.

[@rxs3016]

Most who went from the unlimited to the gladiator, dont like the break over angle. I see their regret and some have actually traded them. The diesel is the engine to get, but the gladiator was made too long to keep up on the trails,imo.

[@afdude2220]

That's a tough call, isnt it? I have a JTR now and see the turn radius and breakover being issues. The 37's I'm on help. But it makes me wonder a bit though. I did some off-roading in Australia and they really push their long wheelbase 79 series Land Cruisers and streched Nissan Patrol utes off road. Both of which are right at the 137" wheelbase... Same as the Gladiator. Currently on the fence of trading my JTR for a JLURD.

[@rxs3016]

@@afdude2220 Don't take my word for it. Keep it and have fun with it. I sometimes wished i had the jt, in that i do almost no offroading and my family of four do mosting overlanding (camping). Lets trade, lol

[@jasonstefanuk3579]

One thing about a diesel . As Canadians DEF is readily available. My friend spent the winter in the southern USA and Baja. He had to have someone ship him 2 cases of DEF so he could drive. Many Americans he talked to had dumped their diesels because they can’t get DEF.

[@Casey250]

I never thought of that. I was was looking at going there and diesel is available but forgot about def.

[@gogerwi]

Good to hear your mostly positive review, especially the drivetrain and EcoDiesel. Just picked up my diesel Gladiator Rubicon last week.

[@Casey250]

Very nice! Congratulations

[@Kevinstrickland33]

With my ram ecodiesel, for oil i used to stock up on shell Rotella T6 from canadian tire when it would go on special it would go down to 40 bucks a 4L. Or if you wanna save even more, buy the 20L buckets when they go on special. And for oil filters ive read alot on forums that the best one is the mopar. I had the folds come apart on a cheaper filter, could have been a disastor lol

[@horaciolopez7721]

Buy DEF from truck stops. It's $1.50 a gallon, much cheaper and you don't have to carry extra.

[@aceforever001]

BUCKY'S!!!

[@rilopez825]

100% agree with the leather seats. I loved the leather seats till I didn't. New Jeep will have Cloth and maybe a after market leather. How is the softtop parked in snow? do you have to keep popping the snow off or just let it pile up on there over night?

[@nerfatron]

Coming from the commercial trucking world, when u mentioned the DEF consumption my jaw dropped, the freightliner I drive uses probably about 2 1/2 jugs to fill it's tank and I probably refill the tank almost weekly, mind you I refuel every day but yea that uses alot less DEF than I'm used to lol

[@FUBAR956]

It's not a head rest. It's a head restraint. It's designed to prevent your head from snapping back and getting whiplash in a crash.

[@XxAlexanderProxx]

Loving the sound of that Diesel engine.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Door straps - doors best friend in windy Keflavik, Iceland!

[@crazycanuck4927]

Great review, I have never owned a jeep and am thinking on getting one in a couple years after youngest son gets driving... thinking diesel gladiator as I do dump runs and would use a box more then jl space

[@cameronalexander359]

This is the 1st time I've seen that doorstrap issue. Thanks for that!

[@dcl97]

Modern "headrests" are angled like that to prevent serious neck and spinal cord injuries in a crash. It forces your head down and against your chest, preventing hyperflexation and likely internal decapitation. This position can also naturally limit hyperrotion as the shoulders limit the movement of the skull laterally. In addition, somewhat like a HANS device it transfers some of the deceleration energy to your shoulders and torso, which are more capable of handling them than your head and neck. So no, it's not at all safe, but that's your choice of course.

[@Casey250]

Perhaps but I think for tall torso people it is too low. When I look at my wife's head with hers adjusted versus mine they aren't even close. My is hitting the top tip of it. My other vehicles aren't even close to what this is for pushing my head forward.

[@Petey003]

Hey @casey250. 1 - Not sure if you know but you can turn your Horn Chiro off when you remote start, it’s in UConnect settings. 2 - you can change your Proximity Door Locks to open all 4 or just driver in UConnect. 3 - you can change the fuse placement for your rear 12v socket to be engine on only. I did mine so it doesn’t drain my Jackery while I’m off. Keep up the vids!

[@Casey250]

Cool thx. Ill have to have a look around in there!

[@ramonarguelles1386]

Ive been watching your reviews and i just ordered my 2022 Jeep rubicon ecodiesel wrangler. Had to go wrangler since i have young children and need the enclosed end. I appreciate your reviews!

[@Casey250]

Thanks and congrats on the new rig!

[@kylemorrow3625]

The head rests adjust. Push top forward I believe, then it'll reset and be straight up and down

[@Far2hip]

That is a beautifully spec’d and molded truck my friend. I love how it’s just enough to remain understated, but enough to give it a very sharp look. Nice job. 👍🏻😎👍🏻

[@keyoke69]

Long term review on a brand new vehicle? Cmon man

[@obeezee]

Love all your videos. You hit what is needed and great information. Thank you!

[@patrickcarroll5715]

My 15 GC summit has an Ecodiesel with GDE tune and it’s been nothing but amazing

[@jam00723]

I feel like that’s the key to these engines is a good tune and a catch can. Keeping the EGR intact isn’t a big deal it’ll just require more maintenance such as cleaning the intake manifold and diffuser tube. But, looking at vehicles with the GDE tune, those items seem to be cleaner!

[@flyingjlotlizard5620]

These engines are JUNK. Nothing you do will make them last as long as a real diesel. These are not meant to last more than 150k miles . look at the engineers who designed it say it. They said this engine has been a disaster. It's why America didn't use it forever

[@benpritchett65]

For as much as these cost you shouldn't have to add heated seats and steering wheel...lol all the options we have to pay for in jeeps compared to other brands that these options come standard

[@mattlee6991]

How does 12,000km which is roughly 7000-8000mi make a long term review...?

[@parronparsons6740]

for oil you might want to try Schaffers oil its a little more expensive but its a full synthetic and you can run it longer for example in my jeep if I run it with Schaffers I can usually get 2-3 thousand miles more than with a normal oil that you can get at auto part stores

[@175psi]

Dude I have a Ram 1500 with the same engine and the CP4 injection pump blew up at 17k miles. They had to replace the pump, fuel lines, common rail and every injector. Be very careful cuz once you are out of warranty you are in for a massive bill if it happens to you.

[@letseewhathappens101]

Damn rona jacking the prices of wranglers and everything through the roof

[@Dog.soldier1950]

FYI. Idling diesels wont heat up-Cummings owner

[@brianmuir8092]

Fold the door cable the opposite direction while closing the door with other hand. It'll stay up against the door until you open it.

[@SATXrattlesnake]

I went to the dealership to check one of these rigs out and I was told to take a look at something much cheaper because these are for rich people only

[@Casey250]

Id find a new dealership

[@MikeSmith-ey7ku]

You want a Jeep or some lame little car? You don’t have to buy a diesel rubicon,I have a Willy’s diesel 43k new not 56 like this

[@DeWildtChryslerHamilton]

Nice rig, great review!

[@dolarmangr]

Casey what ever you do or say it’s a Jeep .....you living with the bad and the good things it brings 👍👍👍 Ps : us we say it’s a Jeep thing 😂😂

[@Aoxmodeus]

Casey, I had the same frustration with the door strap. Disconnect it, and spin it 360 to the left, and reattach. When you close the door, the strap will then twist up out of the way. First thing I did to my JL when I got it last year, I drive a manual and that door strap was super annoying.

[@Casey250]

Thank you for thus suggestion

[@fwschnaar3179]

I so remember how surprised I was in your Video, that when you added the 37’s .... your fuel economy really seemed to drop over the Stock Tires... Although the Diesel doesn’t need the re-gear, do you think that would help, or is it just a Weight thing 🤔👍

[@Casey250]

Ive heard regearing does add some noticeable improvement but I haven't been sold on it versus the cost to do so.

[@devnull128]

The inside aux switch cables also have an always on and ignition power cable. I bought a $7 12v to 5v USB power supply and connected it to the ignition and a lighter Jack for the always on. It’s located right under the glove box and since you have the switches, you have the cables. Power problem solved!

[@Casey250]

Indeed. It is running my dash cam :)

[@mandatoryfun8891]

There might be something wrong with your charging ports in the front. My JL charges my phone super fast and it’s never an issue. I also use the USB C port.

[@MrJustin86hunting]

It’s not turbo lag it’s a 2.8 sec delay put in for emissions so they don’t smoke.

[@boatlakemead1]

Nice review. If I wasn’t broke from paying my hospital bill in the United States then I would buy one.

[@fairweatherbull4908]

Casey you might want to check with Jeep I bought my Rubicon ecodisel in November and Jeep gave away their Jeep Wave program that gives you three free oil changes and thee tire rotations which covers your first 30,000 or three years

[@Casey250]

Not in Canada apparently

[@fairweatherbull4908]

@@Casey250 I thought that might be the case. Love the channel hope to get up to BC next year with the new JL to break it in.

[@fse7794]

that diesel sounds ery smooth and quite (not sure if its only because of video sound)

[@philv930]

Less than a year of ownership = Long Term LMFAO

[@johnssmith4005]

Its about how much you drive the thing there are cars that are 10 years old with a lower mileage than a 1 year old car , he put it to the test so he knows how it compares to the other engine choices

[@Casey250]

Ive spend enough time with it on trails and highways to give an opinion I feel

[@chriskriaris2671]

casey were sorry to hear about your problems with the headrest. Were glad your ok

[@mikethompson7406]

I cannot afford 4xe, I loved it but then saw how much it cost haha Thanks for this info! I've been waiting for the 6th gen 4runner for YEARS and I want something other than my lifted Outback.

[@DieselsHOGVlog]

Great review, I was wondering when you were going to do this. Cool you are happy with it, it’s a major purchase! Glad you found cheaper oil 😑.

[@Urban-Primate]

Love all of the videos. I just purchased a Gladiator Diesel and have been looking at the wheels you have on your Wrangler. Was hoping that you have done a review of the wheels but I cannot find one. What are your thoughts on the Teraflex Nomad wheels?

[@joerouth6255]

I’ve always been a 2-dr person. Sucks that jeep can’t make a 2-dr diesel. I would consider selling my 2-dr JK for that option

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

Did anyone else laugh when this guy posted a "long term review" after owning this for less than a year? Then it takes him almost 20 mins to tell us what he thinks about it. C'mon man!

[@un_ours1781]

and 12 000 miles xD thats brand new ahaha

[@andyd9131]

Casey I am loving my eco diesel as well! It’s been awesome so far!

[@deeppowhazylab]

Love Jeeps (4.0L), as for the Fiat made diesel, definitely going to blow up. When’s the last time you bought a diesel Italian truck?

[@jeffcesta2493]

It seems like having marker/ turn signal lights on the fenders is asking for trouble. I've been on the trail and ripped a fender of on my JKU. It's easily reattached with some new plastic rivets. No broken wires or lights to deal with. Let's face it- trails get slick and it's easy to catch a tree with a fender.

[@mikethompson7406]

Headrest: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is the deal with all these stupid head rests?! How is this supposed to be comfortable?! I always have a huge neck ache when on road trips if I rest my head back when driving or sleeping on the passenger side.

[@Casey250]

Ya I don't get it. I own other modern vehicles and have driven even more. None match how uncomfortable the JL is.

[@Sirdroid]

Great video! Any issues with the cold? I am in Wisconsin and will usually not be able to plug it in.

[@meandkg]

I totally agree about the leather seats! I had leather heated seats and cloth seats without heat and the cloth seats are warmer in Iowa winters!

[@greygoose4x46]

Agreed / That’s why I built mine with heated cloth seats

[@jr23kid]

The 4ev is what I’m waiting on. 25 miles all electric and it charges with kinetic energy like a Prius. That means you would use hardly any gas off road which is where most Jeep’s kills gas mileage.

[@Casey250]

4xe - but yes me too! I think its a great step and want to drive one

[@steamtorch]

Experienced PHEV and BEV owner here. In real world conditions, not testing lab, a 25 mile PHEV isn't worth the trouble as the real range will be 1/2 to 3/4 of the sticker. And once the charge is used up, you are hauling hundreds of lbs of dead weight which pretty much cancels out the hybrid efficiencies. I'd rather have the diesel.

[@jr23kid]

@@steamtorch The system is like the Prius c . You get charge back off of kinetic energy. I own a Prius and a Jeep. Yes I know how it works. You aren’t the only one who owns a hybrid. Fuck out please

[@shawnskiba5874]

Its too clean. If I hadn't watched all of your videos, I would call you a mall crawler. 🙃

[@Casey250]

😎

[@martinmartin5904]

11:20 about DEF : 2/3 deionized water and 1/3 urea...Is the filler neck at the right height?

[@johnryan296]

Nice C7 in the garage!

[@duoglide69]

What is the benefit to having the eco diesel ? Given the $4500 extra engine cost, extra def cost, ass9 oil change cost ! Fuel mileage will never offset these extra costs. Excellent review though. I have the same problems with power ports, that door tether and hunchback head rest. I’m 5’-11”.

[@TheHitSquadOffroad]

The thought of diesel is great for mpgs especially if adding larger tires, lift, etc... But what most people don't know is that the Ecodiesels are sensitive and the smog equipment doesn't help. I had a 2017 Ecodiesel Ram and I learned a lot from it. I wouldn't suggest an Eco if you do constant short trips and don't get on the highway often to let it run for a descent amount of miles. Short trips won't allow you to complete a regen which burns the soot, so it has a higher chance of clogging your dpf. There's a lot to learn about how to drive and treat the Ecodiesel. I just purchased a Gladiator with he 3.6 for simplicity and peace of mind. I don't have to worry about the potential damage I'm doing to the engine because I dropped my children off at school a few miles away and came right back home and didn't take a long drive during the week for the smog system to properly regen.

[@deahelkcunklaer2180]

I've got 7000 miles on my Rubicon Eco Diesel. Zero issues so far. I've have every generation of Jeep since 1997. The diesel is just effortless. The only thing that may be better is electric but I'll have wait to see how this hybrid setup pans out. That's a lot of new tech for a company like FCA to introduce, I'd probably wait a year. The diesel is worth it for the sound alone but when you factor that you don't have to re-gear and your range is still great...

[@totalobliviondemolition2914]

Rotella T6 is the recommended oil and you can get the oil filters off amazon in the US for 33 dollars US. I have the ecodiesel truck and the filters are the same between the truck and jeep

[@hksjoshua]

So much to go wrong but I love it.

[@alt9874]

Great review and really useful info as I'm considering my first Jeep.

[@Casey250]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hoofixrman]

Diesel is great except dealing with dpf, def and all the smog requirements of modern diesels...therefore given the huge premium Id stick to the pentastar v6

[@stevenbushey9543]

My oil changes were free so far

[@blueburaq]

"that's what the engine sounds like. Yup definitely sounds like a diesel. I'm just gonna keep talking over the sound of the engine. Just use your imagination of what it sounds like and instead listen to me"

[@tallll70]

Same headrest problem in 4th gen Ram, i bent the tubes in position i like which is almost straight, but the way it still normally slides all the way in... The reason for this was some stupid insurance safety regulation they had to comply with

[@Casey250]

Sounds dumb.

[@naamangeist7843]

With a $4500 upcharge for diesel, the $250 oil changes and the hassle and expense of the diesel exhaust fluid, I don't see the savings over gas. And with only a 21-mile range (even less as the battery ages), I don't see the point of the 4xE. And yes, I can use hybrid mode to extend that range but then what's the point of going electric if you're still using the gas engine? I may as well pay less and go with the traditional model.

[@Casey250]

I like it for the power.

[@jk_wrangler13]

I would tell anyone that has never owned a diesel, that if your looking for a fast quick off the line start then don't buy a diesel. Yes you can buy mods that will give you a faster off the line starts, but its still not going to be as fast as it would be if you had a gass engine. I myself don't always look for the get up and go, as they say. I look for how it craws and climes. I have a 2500 dodge truck and I to run the def in it as well and yes changing the oil is more expensive the a regular diesel. But I wouldn't trade it in for any gas engine. Thanks for your review on your jeep.

[@deahelkcunklaer2180]

You've got it backwards. Diesel is faster off the line due to the earlier and greater torque. As the revs climb the power drops off. That's why diesel is so well suited to heavier vehicles.

[@jk_wrangler13]

@@deahelkcunklaer2180 sorry but that's not true. I have a 2500 and unless I put some after market up grades on it l, it's not faster off the line. My truck don't pick speed until the turbo kicks in after building boost. Diesels are better known for their low torc and pulling power not to mention their climbing power.

[@verygood7155]

I look forward to your take on the coming 4XE.

[@Casey250]

Me too. I really want to drive one.

[@travelinman482]

Why? It’ll be a flop in sales and on the trails. That thing was meant to crawl the suburban concrete jungle. Lol

[@silverstake88]

Don't buy the def in jugs. HUGE waste of money- like 2 - 3 times what you'd pay at a def pump. Yes, def pumps aren't everywhere but you will find them at most all major travel centers/truck stops. Just go to the big rig fuel lane and get fresh def at the pump. Also - use Lucas Diesel DEEP CLEAN with every 3 or 4 fill-ups. Especially if you are planning a road trip. This helps keep the DEF filters, sensors and the doser clean. What is a doser? This squirts def into the def filter when the engine is under full load and temp.

[@Casey250]

Ive never heard of a def pump around here. Ill have to dig around.

[@silverstake88]

Retired trucker here. Been around the DEF block a few times.... - unfortunately. 🙄

[@boomsaucexx1866]

Seems like the JL is the new yuppy jeep.

[@calebmassey9991]

I’d take my yj over a jl any day.

[@AllTerrainNation]

Solid review sir...

[@nikdragutinovich7732]

When i read the manual for my jeep, one of the outlets you mentioned for always on power, can be switched from always on or running only, and the owners manual explained which fuse to flip or whatever to switch it between the two

[@Casey250]

This is true and I have also learned this since this video!

[@gabrielback5615]

Good review, especially about the diesel.

[@Casey250]

Thanks!

[@UsedEveryDay]

I hate it when people do “long term”reviews and it’s only been a few months! And only 12,000 kilometers (7,456 miles). THAT IS NOT A LONG TERM REVIEW!!! I get it, it’s longer than the day or two that car review channels usually have to review new cars, but let’s face it, a year or two or anything less than 100,000 miles still puts it in the new vehicle category to me. Most new vehicles won’t start showing their true colors of reliability, dependability etc, until after 100,000 miles (160,934 kilometers). That’s typically when issues will start to rise if any are going to. Videos like this one are just a way for KZbinrs to create more content and hopefully continue to boost the algorithm as well as another vid to promote their merch. A shameless plug if you will.