2021 Tesla Model 3 cold start energy consumption

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

Күн бұрын

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@dennisthrondsen
@dennisthrondsen 4 жыл бұрын
Me and my family picked up are new model 3 in Lillestrøm today very happy
@davidbryant2872
@davidbryant2872 4 жыл бұрын
?? Not in my 5 years with a Model S!
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 4 жыл бұрын
Just remember ABC - Always Be Charging!
@dennisthrondsen
@dennisthrondsen 4 жыл бұрын
@@harsimranbansal5355 haha ok
@jul1anuhd
@jul1anuhd 4 жыл бұрын
Nice :D I wish you a beautiful time with this car. Drive or get driven safely ;)
@rsdwall466
@rsdwall466 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Bjørn. That physics part is so understated and underappreciated. Also in summer (at least in southern USA) petrol cars reduce the mil age by approx10% if AC is used. People somehow does register that probably because they are used to that fact. EV do similar in winter ( though loss could be 15-20%) . But as you say they efficient all the time.
@tavi_chocochip
@tavi_chocochip 4 жыл бұрын
It's simply that people driving gas cars don't check the "range remaining" indicator, they just look at how much gas is left in the tank. So it's not as obvious when there's range degradation, even though the physics is indeed the same.
@Alexander-bu8rv
@Alexander-bu8rv 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn this is Alex from Kastoria Greece i saw you so many times and i "m enjoyed your reviews about electric cars . Keep doing what you do so we learn more about electric cars and how to use them right
@davidbryant2872
@davidbryant2872 4 жыл бұрын
Your comments about not being a fan of frameless windows were spot-on! I hate them! To me, the frameless window is the worst single design error that Tesla made when they designed Model S. And it astounded me when they continued making that foolish design choice for the Model 3, Y, and even the pickup truck! As you demonstrated, the frameless windows cause real problems in winter. If the glass is covered in enough ice, the window will not retract into the door, and you cannot safely open the doors. If you force the door open, you may not be able to close it because the glass will not fit into the gasket. (It looks to me as if the Model 3 may not be as bad as Model S in this regard.) Plus, the frameless window design makes the door latch and window operation more complex, because they need to move the window each and every time the window is opened or closed, causing unnecessary wear and tear. And the fact is, there is no benefit to the consumer of having frameless windows! If the car were a coupe or a convertible, the windows must be frameless. And some luxury coupes use frameless windows so that the car looks like a convertible when the windows are all open. But Tesla makes only sedans, not coupes or convertibles, so the frameless window does no good for the car's looks! They are a really foolish design choice.
@FiremansJoe
@FiremansJoe 4 жыл бұрын
I love it when he starts scraping the car and says 'This is so satisfying!'
@piiits_life
@piiits_life 3 жыл бұрын
I love the small portions of German every now and than ♥️
@rahko_i
@rahko_i 4 жыл бұрын
EV consumption suffers during the winter when it's really cold, but fossils cars' consumption suffers throughout the whole year, just a bit less suffering during the cold weather.
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 3 жыл бұрын
You're a Superstar now, Bjorn.
@anderssoderqvist3012
@anderssoderqvist3012 4 жыл бұрын
It is a feature, when temperature drops below 5C (i think) then the Teslas roll down the window slightly just for the risk of otherwise sticking, I thought it was on all doors but obviously it is only on the front doors, feature came 1 year ago
@davidbryant2872
@davidbryant2872 4 жыл бұрын
Not aware of that. It is not on my 2015 Model S, I am sure of that. Maybe on newer cars?
@KevinT3141
@KevinT3141 4 жыл бұрын
I always use a snowbrush with a stiff squeegy on the back side. It works much better at clearing soft frost than the scraper. If you're worried about microscratches, the squeegy does in one wide pass what a plastic scraper takes a lot of back and forth to accomplish.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
...or just preheat.
@KevinT3141
@KevinT3141 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland True. I couldn't afford the Model 3 though so got an Ionic PHEV and can't preheat. My consumption has dropped to 2.5 l/100km versus 11.5 for my old car, but I hope to join you in the future soon.
@skyfox77
@skyfox77 4 жыл бұрын
Here I expected to see how fast you got the ice from the windows with only heating up the car. I never scrape my windows on my Kia E-niro, i just warm the car up, takes just a couple of minutes. It is so satisfying to watch the ice melt.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'll make a video about it.
@skyfox77
@skyfox77 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland You should also have a fossil car beside as a comparison :)
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 4 жыл бұрын
@@skyfox77 That would be awesome!
@davidkendall2272
@davidkendall2272 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these tests, the information you are providing about the heat pump performance/utility are extremely useful.
@berthogendoorn722
@berthogendoorn722 4 жыл бұрын
on the Kia Soul EV the PTC heater kicks in till the heat pump catches up, so my work around is preheat on 240VAC while plugged in and on departure I get efficient heating form the heat pump.
@F15HHOOKS
@F15HHOOKS 4 жыл бұрын
the life of a popular youtuber.......being interrupted pretty girls. Sheeeiit, like a boass Bjorn.😉
@ferdibook
@ferdibook 3 жыл бұрын
Bjorn was blushing 🙃
@grad-dd9zj
@grad-dd9zj 4 жыл бұрын
does pre-heating affect the door handles as well? thank you.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AchilestheKing
@AchilestheKing 3 жыл бұрын
It’s written in the manual that the windows (or only drivedoor) go a little bit down when it’s cold so it’s not freezing in the Frame
@stalliontheplumber7406
@stalliontheplumber7406 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I had to laugh when you said "we have a high consumption now, 189 w/km" 😅 Makes me almost cry when I compare it to my S on that exact same trip. Can add almost 100w in that hill past Skedsmo. It doesn't help that I have the Sottozero 3 tyres. They should never be allowed on an EV regarding efficiency. 🤦‍♂️
@Tilten
@Tilten 4 жыл бұрын
There’s an issue with cars that have framed windows; when it’s really cold, windows can get frozen shut by ice. So when you go to McD or Max drive-through, you can’t open the windows to get the food. Huge problem! :)
@Germancode
@Germancode 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 I forgot that rich people dont eat
@davidbryant2872
@davidbryant2872 4 жыл бұрын
The same thing happens to frameless windows, so I am not sure of your point. Plus the doors won't open correctly if the windows are frameless, so they are worse for winter.
@d3adk964
@d3adk964 4 жыл бұрын
At least when the window is frozen on a framed window door you can still get into car without worrying about damaging the weather stripping and glass... Tesla really needs to make better door handles and a vehicle with framed windows.
@malcolmjohnson9875
@malcolmjohnson9875 4 жыл бұрын
Defrosted car is needed for safety anyway. Why would anyone drive to a takeaway with frosted windows?? Without visibility a car is a coffin.
@mravecsk1
@mravecsk1 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 You dont need to be rich to buy EQC..dont need to be top rank manager or buss owner...just earn decent salary. Plus yeee, even "rich" people go to McD for food...
@WhamBaamTeslacam
@WhamBaamTeslacam 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual Bjorn. I have actually perfected a fist bump punch on the ice that will get the door handle up every time when I forgot to pre heat. It took a year to learn....
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 4 жыл бұрын
Sup, nice seeing you here! 😂
@4theistInfidel
@4theistInfidel 4 жыл бұрын
From your results you could calculate the extra energy used for a 54 km ish trip when cold. The difference was 27 Wh/km. So over 50 km that was about 1.5 kWh.
@kjh789az
@kjh789az 4 жыл бұрын
Good sheeet real conditions test - thanks! The frozen window issue on entry could be solved by a heated strip above the frameless glass which is triggered as soon as you unlock when temperatures are low, in the absence of pre-heating the entire vehicle. Remain unconvinced that frameless is best, as materials for a frame can be light-weight and make for a stronger door overall.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Or just preheat via the app. I never run into this problem because I always preheat.
@ghislainlejeune2214
@ghislainlejeune2214 4 жыл бұрын
We are jealous here in Québec (Canada) as the mother company of Circle K is ''Couche-Tard'' which is a local company here... and they are just starting DCFC deployment in our area. But happy to see that they are doing a good job in Norway!
@williamgrissom9022
@williamgrissom9022 4 жыл бұрын
You did full window scrapings, whereas I just scrape peep-holes which serves for driving slow at 30 mph down a neighborhood street for 1/2 mile until my gas engine puts out toasty heat to melt the ice. My diesel engine cars take 1 mile to heat up. My guess is that most U.S. owners park a battery-car in a garage for easier charging, so needn't fool with ice in the morning. Interesting that for angry comments, you prefer German. Is that telling? It does feel right, especially for comments like, "Das ist verboten".
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Not safe and also illegal in Norway.
@brandx7019
@brandx7019 4 жыл бұрын
If you want some left lane huggers, please come to Canada. We have the highest concentration of them in the world.
@bq5577x
@bq5577x 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in the Netherlands most of the people are like that too... The average human isn't the best driver ever I guess 😂
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the time the 400 series highways n Ontario are fine. Makes sense since people drive 140 in the left lane when the speed limit is 100!
@RandyTWester
@RandyTWester 4 жыл бұрын
Not in rural Alberta, the left lane is for trucks going the other way, so they don't stay there.
@robsmith1a
@robsmith1a 4 жыл бұрын
My mercedes SLK does less than 20mpg on very short trips from cold! Once warmed up it isn't a great deal worse than in the summer. 35 to 40 mpg.
@TheExegetic
@TheExegetic 4 жыл бұрын
I drove 135km with my 2020 LR, mostly highway, a bit worse conditions with rain and wet roads, no hammering. Ended the trip with 237Wh/kWh! Also cold start. I mean, I don't expect to get the same numbers as you on your trip, but i feel like over 200kWh is still very high...
@neil454
@neil454 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bjorn you should do a race for which Model 3 will heat up the cabin the fastest, PVC vs heat pump. Wondering what the time difference would be
@rustynuts4426
@rustynuts4426 4 жыл бұрын
7:57. 1st mention of the heat pump. You can skip to this
@Clearphish
@Clearphish 4 жыл бұрын
Think that there is a winter set point for the driver's side window that makes it just low enough to open the door even when it's frozen.
@xxifix7230
@xxifix7230 4 жыл бұрын
The front and side cameras shouldn`t be warmed by sentry mode? if i remember correctly keeping sentry mode on will keep the cameras defrosted.
@apocrypth
@apocrypth 4 жыл бұрын
yes but he did not left sentry mode active so car went into deep sleep mode, to conserve more energy
@the_marius99
@the_marius99 4 жыл бұрын
I love the german parts: "that ist nicht gut", "scheiße" 😂
@ChristianWahrheit
@ChristianWahrheit 4 күн бұрын
"We have Stau Here!" ;) Why is he doing that?
@ionuttrintis7216
@ionuttrintis7216 4 жыл бұрын
If you will measure the charger delivered energy, the overall energy efficiency is way higher with cold start compared to preheat start. And that will be mostly because of the “afterburner” stuff, which is inefficient.
@metagon666
@metagon666 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bjorn , your tesla did not receive the new update? please review the new holiday update. smaller map area
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 4 жыл бұрын
But not that ridiculous boom box nonsense all the young KZbinrs are wetting themselves over. Cringe.
@mattaut88
@mattaut88 4 жыл бұрын
until now. will be customizable soon.
@danielsucher7383
@danielsucher7383 4 жыл бұрын
In the Model Y Tesla added a feature where one could press the door handle on both ends in case it gets icy and stuck. I wonder if the 2021 Model 3 has that same feature?
@CoolSilver
@CoolSilver 4 жыл бұрын
Easy frost. Which word in Norwegian describes this type of light frost vs heavy ice? I don't miss having to scrape the snow and ice off the windows.
@djio_0
@djio_0 4 жыл бұрын
If you turn Sentry Mode on, the front camera heater will be running.
@n2utsu
@n2utsu 4 жыл бұрын
Could you test Peugeot e-expert/Toyota Proace EV/Opel e-vivaro/Citroen e-Jumpy ? All of them are the same so you would test 4 EVs at the same time :)
@williamarmstrong7199
@williamarmstrong7199 4 жыл бұрын
Certainly wet roads reduce the terrible efficency of fossil cars by at least 10%
@AlvinBul
@AlvinBul 2 жыл бұрын
You should film it in service mode with Hvac screen on. That screen is awesome..
@cansly92
@cansly92 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Canada Happenned to me yesterday morning (S90 2016). Even after 15 min of pre-heating, no window would go down, OAT was -15C. my kid was not carefull and one of the rear door window even went sitting outside of the trim when closing the door (Shiiiiiiitt!!!!!!!) after the drive, I manage to get the window motors to work just a bit and I left all windows slightly down (2-3mm) and it helps (but now I keep getting messages on the mobile app that my windows are not up!!! You just can't win
@esilviu2000
@esilviu2000 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Lady !!
@mikegipson1224
@mikegipson1224 4 жыл бұрын
Lane discipline in the UK is the same in fact I think alot of Europe is the same these days :)
@oliverkostny9245
@oliverkostny9245 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Björn, have you access to a Model 3 SR+ Made in China? Would be interesting, if you can investigate on the new battery and testdrive it.
@99cezar
@99cezar 4 жыл бұрын
I had a bmw 4 series with frameless windows and I also had problems when it was ice on the windows, I had to preheat or usually scrach it One time it raind with "ice" and i literally couldn't open the door or touch the handel so I had to put warm water on the sides to have the possibility to open the door
@dandaly7305
@dandaly7305 4 жыл бұрын
Some 'sun shades' have black on one side, silver on the other. Solar radiation penetrates the ice and heats the black side, if you put it facing out, and warms the interior after freezing rain after the sun comes up. Passive solar. Even with large accumulations of ice (12mm), there is a layer of water under the ice, so an easy 'chip'. Obviously best to have the windscreen facing the sun if possible. In southern Canada, we seem to be getting less snow and more freezing rain (this morning, 0C, freezing drizzle, then switching to light snow... we had a green Christmas). Our latitude is 45N; Oslo is roughly 60N, so there will be less sun there (on the solstice here, the sun was 21deg above the horizon, in summer, 65 deg). The ability to remotely condition the interior makes the thought of an EV attractive.
@ericvet8b
@ericvet8b 4 жыл бұрын
ICE in winter also reduce their range by at least 10-20%
@Mario-zv3dw
@Mario-zv3dw 4 жыл бұрын
Just until they warmup
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mario-zv3dw nope, even then the air is dense and ICE cars are not aerodynamic so he’s right, 20% loss easily in range. Worse if you travel on snow!
@jaywho7264
@jaywho7264 3 жыл бұрын
hello i live in indiana, no issues driving a rwd car, my concern is the range, i travel 150 to 160 per day, a mix of city driving, country raod, highway/freeway driving. will a model 3 standard range enough for me? thank you
@uPerigoso
@uPerigoso 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn, i pick my Model 3 Performance today and in Portugal it wasn't so cool but it was raining. When i got home i stay in the car for 30 minutes checking the menus and HVAC was running. From time to time my car made a humming noise and vitrate for 1 to 2 seconds. Is that normal? Is that the heat pump? I'm not used to this so I don't know what is normal and what's not. It felt really strange and the vibration is not light, it's between light and moderate if i give my personal opinion. What do you think?
@dennisvanhelden9253
@dennisvanhelden9253 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to like the video folks!!
@bassjohansen
@bassjohansen 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video about smart charging (like Tibber) vs scheduled departure? Pros and cons, total power usage, consumption, etc.
@RamonSmits
@RamonSmits 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing efficiency!! That is HUGE compared with my S 100D 2018 21" already 220wh/km after 15km that is just insane with 0 degrees outside. Although it is suspicious that the battery was 9 degrees at the start. Could it be that when the car is connected to the charger that it periodically "conditions" the cell temperature? My S for sure has a cooler pack. Still really great results!
@arribus30
@arribus30 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2017 MS100D and now swapped to the M3LR. The S has well enough range but the M3 is unbelievably efficient. Very happy with it.
@RamonSmits
@RamonSmits 4 жыл бұрын
@@arribus30 Im happy with the range of my S.. it's just that the efficiency of short trips sucks during winter which is my primary usage. Would trade my car, isn't worth the difference. The 3 is to small for my length of 1.97m
@peterhelm522
@peterhelm522 4 жыл бұрын
It is the heat pump which is making the difference. My Model 3 LR without HP needs at 0°C also around 21 kWh/100km in the first 15km.
@peterk9653
@peterk9653 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bjørn, your german is perfect. Scheisse ..... Das ist nicht gut ..... Stau. 😀 Or is it local language. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
@TheRemske
@TheRemske 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you have the tire pressure monitoring fault still on the display. Did it not work changing the sensors in the tires?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
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@TheRemske
@TheRemske 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Ah! So they aren’t replaced yet. I didn’t get that the last time I watched the video.
@galret9899
@galret9899 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a more "real world" test be if the car wasn't plugged in? For example, if you were just returning to the car after skiing all day (or other cold weather activity), then dinner?
@LeWille00
@LeWille00 4 жыл бұрын
do you plan on testing the new sr+ ? I heard that the charging on those is very bad compared to the old sr+
@kaipomsel6967
@kaipomsel6967 4 жыл бұрын
Can you also make an test like this without AC? You are in Auto Modus and in this modus the AC is activated. If I use in cold season the AC the power consumtion is higher for heating. That the reason I use AC only in summer!
@jeales895
@jeales895 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for you to look at the charge curve on the MiC LFP pack in the SR+
@MarzioNieddu
@MarzioNieddu 4 жыл бұрын
Next test, leave the car disconnected from power source all the night and let see the efficency with external temperature below -5°C - let see the strategy of octavalve for heating up the car and the driver.
@tedswirski2377
@tedswirski2377 4 жыл бұрын
Warmed up way faster than my Dodge.
@JAM_2024
@JAM_2024 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the frameless windows that's the issue. My Corolla has standard framed windows and has the same problems. The door gets stuck with freezing rain/snow/ice. I've owned cars in the past with frameless windows and they were fine.
@minjung3350
@minjung3350 4 жыл бұрын
How many Watts and minutes do you need at such temperatures for preheating to get these nice summer consumptions?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
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@TeaMohn
@TeaMohn 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you always cover the panorama roof ? Do you recognize the cold from the roof window?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKSrnYevbLhqias
@peterwynnychuk5085
@peterwynnychuk5085 4 жыл бұрын
Bjørn how do you know if the Heat Pump is heating the Tesla up or just the resistance heater?
@raym2107
@raym2107 4 жыл бұрын
does heat pump is equipped in tropical country?
@wolfweb448
@wolfweb448 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the preheating of ev talk.. all my gas and diesel have had both electric and fuel preheating equipment..
@tomekwrs
@tomekwrs 4 жыл бұрын
Could you try to leave the car for the night NOT plugged, to have a stone-cold battery and then start the preheat remotely by a phone? What would be the energy usage?? Thanks. Anyway great vids!
@Hypercubert
@Hypercubert 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bjørn, I enjoy your videos. Just out of curiousity: Did you spend some time of your life in Germany? You repeatedly say "Stau" (German for traffic jam), or is it the same word in Norwegian? Also, some words sound just like there's little chunks of German history in your English. :-)
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
I have been in Germany several times, yes.
@Texzor
@Texzor 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland if you come to Vienna sometime, i could give you a tour :-)
@gopinitk
@gopinitk 4 жыл бұрын
Please can you check if the battery drain when parked in an airport for several days has improved or not?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same.
@gopinitk
@gopinitk 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland thanks:). Hope Tesla improves that soon to save energy.
@eklew1
@eklew1 4 жыл бұрын
great vids. Looking to by my first ev. And I am basing it on your tests, so thank you for doing normal driving tests in normal traffic and in “normal” shitty wether (swe).
@ahmetbal6692
@ahmetbal6692 4 жыл бұрын
Apple vinegar mixed with water kills ice remember.👌
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Preheating also kills ice. Way cleaner and way more convenient.
@Ruvi5000
@Ruvi5000 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Love watching them
@mister_jon_jon
@mister_jon_jon 4 жыл бұрын
My GT86 (frameless windows) was a pain in winter, didn't matter how much I put silicone around the windows... It's nice with frameless windows, but in this climate not worth it...
@Matt7895
@Matt7895 4 жыл бұрын
I NEVER use the scraper except on thick ice/snow. As soon as it gets down to that level I never use it on glass or paintwork because it WILL scratch or at least take a layer off! You're right when you say you should preheat, but you should have also said NEVER use the scraper - use deicer to melt it, then wipe the water off with a cloth!
@skyfox77
@skyfox77 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here, since I got my Kia E-Niro I just heat up the car instead of scraping the windows.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
I demonstrated exactly what *not* to do. I never use the scraper myself.
@rickl138
@rickl138 3 жыл бұрын
What is the app you are using when making the demonstration?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 3 жыл бұрын
Scan My Tesla
@OddRagnarDengLerstl
@OddRagnarDengLerstl 4 жыл бұрын
How is it to operate the screen and other stuff in a cold car? Is the steering wheel heated? Can you operate the car with gloves or mittens?
@PhilT993
@PhilT993 4 жыл бұрын
I just got my Model 3 2 days ago. I was concerned about not having a heated steering wheel before, but I find that with preheating the car before getting in, it is not a problem at all. The steering wheel is very comfortable and nice to use. Also you can get gloves that are designed to work on touch screens. Check Amazon. I might just get a pair anyway. Phil, from Canada.
@OddRagnarDengLerstl
@OddRagnarDengLerstl 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhilT993 Thanks for the answer. I've some of the touchscreen gloves. Necessary for playing Pokémon Go in Norway during winter 🙂
@PhilT993
@PhilT993 4 жыл бұрын
@@OddRagnarDengLerstl Yes, I think we have about the same winter here. Too long :-)
@royking1
@royking1 4 жыл бұрын
People forget how inefficient fossil cars are. Only 20-30% (40% at best) of the energy from the fuel is converted to moving the vehicle along the road. Although not desirable, even electricity generated by burning coal is around 35% efficient and oil/gas is up to approx 50-60% efficient, so those saying that there's no point in getting an electric car because the electricity is dirty are basically incorrect. Renewable electricity will always be the preferred method of generating though.
@ilarivaisanen
@ilarivaisanen 4 жыл бұрын
If you start preheating from phone app, doors open normally then when you get to your car?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. That's why I never ever run into this problem for my normal use. This video was just to show you the rare case when you don't preheat.
@mseather1337
@mseather1337 4 жыл бұрын
have you secretly traded your model 3 performance for this one bjørn? ;)
@fouriouslive1010
@fouriouslive1010 4 жыл бұрын
Woher kannst du Deutsch? Das hat mich sehr positiv überrascht! Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland 🇩🇪 😊😊
@malte_hoffmann
@malte_hoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
The efficiency could be improved even more if heatpump was used to heat up the battery. The downside of course is that a more powerful heatpump would be necessary.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
The heat pump *is* already being used to heat up the battery.
@malte_hoffmann
@malte_hoffmann 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Oh. I didn't know that. But the stators are also running when charging.
@romainlardet850
@romainlardet850 Жыл бұрын
Good evening Bjorn, I am a new follower and your videos convinced me to invest in a 2nd hand M3 LR from 2019 with 67000km (18" with aero cap on the wheels) I was wondering if you could help me understand the car better. I got the car 4 days ago and have been using it in a city (so max 50km/h) while the weather has been cold and quite wet. I have AC 18degC and usule heated seat in the lowest level, nothing else is heated. The car is in chill mode, I drive very smoothly, and I only drive with 1 pedal. The tires are winter tires with 40psi. It's quite hard for me to get less than 220Wh/km. I did not use pre-heating though. On my old Renault Zoé from 2013 with 22kWh pack, in the same driving conditions, I am getting 187Wh/km and I heat up much more than 18C and only pre-heat in the morning journey to work (7km away). Should I not expect better consumption from the M3? Anything you recommend me to check? Also last night I charged the car at 63% at the charger in my street, let it overnight in the street afterwards not plugged to anything, no sentry mode, everything off that can possibly be off (looked at all the infos about phantom drainage), this morning it was cold and snowy, I had lost only 2% SOC (but that's still quite a bit) and this afternoon I had lost 8%...which the energy app told me was consumed entirely in standby. After fiddling with the car to try and figure out what was wrong, not driving, I was at 52% (I did do a SW update as I thought this might be the problem). I am a bit at a loss here and any help or video you can provide on the topic would be fantastic! Thank you Bjorn and keep it up!
@mattaut88
@mattaut88 4 жыл бұрын
using a car cover in winter. Ice, what is it?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Microscratches... schmutz...
@robin-nq5tk
@robin-nq5tk 4 жыл бұрын
Can you test a model 3P 2021?
@martonzo-5802
@martonzo-5802 4 жыл бұрын
No problems with subaru frameless windows.
@danedane6613
@danedane6613 4 жыл бұрын
Is it legal to overtake on the inside (right side) of other cars, on the motorway in Norway? Or just accepted by others?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@danedane6613
@danedane6613 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Just a generel question. I've been driving in Norway many times by my self and noticed many Norwegians overtaking on the right side, instead of the left side, if there is a left lane hugger. In DK you get a cut in your drivers license and a big fine if you overtake on the inside (right side) on the motorway. So just wondered about if it is actual legal in Norway to overtage on the right side, since so many Norwegians are doing it, compared to danes? :-)
@slavko321
@slavko321 4 жыл бұрын
@@danedane6613 Just a part of bad lane culture i guess.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Technically it's not legal. But the law says that if there's congestion, then overtaking on the right lane is legal. And remember that many times in the videos when you see me overtake cars on the right lane, that rightmost lane is not a regular lane. It's a bus/taxi lane. And overtaking cars while driving on that lane is of course 100 % legal.
@Mario-zv3dw
@Mario-zv3dw 4 жыл бұрын
@@danedane6613 in certain states it’s legal to pass a car on the right side but illegal to overtake. Pass = you are going to a certain speed > to the car in left lane, you maintain your speed and naturally pass the left car; legal. Overtake = you pass to the right lane, accelerate, pass the left car, and change to the left lane again. Illegal.
@zunzea
@zunzea 4 жыл бұрын
Surely evs should have something like ford's quick clear heated windscreen, much faster to defrost and uses less energy to defog the car
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 4 жыл бұрын
Some EVs do. The base model Kia Soul EV in Canada has that (even though the top trim does not, oddly).
@Mario-zv3dw
@Mario-zv3dw 4 жыл бұрын
Why the km were overestimated?
@Anakil1
@Anakil1 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't part of the winter upgrade where the windows will always be "lowered" when it is freezing outside ? :)
@mattaut88
@mattaut88 4 жыл бұрын
look at rear door window. it goes up, and then a little down again.
@PhilT993
@PhilT993 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like your Sentry Mode was turned on. I'm surprised that the front cameras were frozen over.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. You mix up dashcam with sentry mode. Common mistake.
@PhilT993
@PhilT993 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Good to know. thanks. Just had my car for 2 days. Still learning and enjoying :-)
@kabatake
@kabatake 4 жыл бұрын
hi can you talk about your charging cost. thanks in advance
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2rGaKyvbd1ggqs
@josemdbl4957
@josemdbl4957 4 жыл бұрын
Great test!
@francokonig9295
@francokonig9295 4 жыл бұрын
Sehr cooler Beitrag. bjorn redet ja gern deutsch. Komm mal zu uns nach Österreich. freu mich
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
Hæ?
@The-Northern
@The-Northern 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm my etron has frozen shut windows and doors even after 10-15min preheating 😂😂😂😂 Worse than a Tesla in only -3-3.5c. And the camera is only heated when sentry is on
@hesria
@hesria 4 жыл бұрын
What app is that you used to see ?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 4 жыл бұрын
ScanMyTesla
@henkenmiekevandenberg4694
@henkenmiekevandenberg4694 4 жыл бұрын
What is expensif? In Spain the price per Kwh €0,83.
@joolgil
@joolgil 4 жыл бұрын
Where in Spain? In my house, last night I got 0,01€/Kwh (tarifaluzhora.es/?tarifa=discriminacion&fecha=28%2F12%2F2020), so not that expensive. Maybe you are talking about Ionity...
@joolgil
@joolgil 4 жыл бұрын
(If you want to check, set "tarifa de discriminación horaria" in the website)
@henkenmiekevandenberg4694
@henkenmiekevandenberg4694 4 жыл бұрын
@@haselhofler non Tesla.
@jstechsector3925
@jstechsector3925 4 жыл бұрын
Scheiße 😂 The last time my wife took the Tesla, she came back. Frozen door handles, windows and the mirrors stuck, despite preheating. The neighbors were a little amused when I worked on the car with the hair dryer. 😁
@SkepticalCaveman
@SkepticalCaveman 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the correct statement is that gas cars suffers in summer, since not only do they produce unnecessary heat during summer they waste even more energy cooling the extra heat caused by the engine, such waste. If people actually realised that 70-85% of all the gasoline they pay for is wasted, the switch to EV would be so much faster. Imagine that everyone would have to pay 70-85% in taxes when buying anything, people would get furious, and at least taxes might benefit you, so it's more like literally burning up the money for nothing.
@helmuttrzoska4572
@helmuttrzoska4572 4 жыл бұрын
Not all all the 70% are used for heating the cabin and engine. Most of it heats good mother earth. Like in the rest of the year.
@harsimranbansal5355
@harsimranbansal5355 4 жыл бұрын
@@helmuttrzoska4572 bjorn made a video talking about it and no, heating up the cabin barely uses any energy compared to all the energy that’s wasted as heat. Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmaoe6Chp7aUpa8
@tonyfriden8278
@tonyfriden8278 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to ask for your help. A person I think we have learned a lot from needs our help. Jordan Giesige at The Limiting Factor is considering working with his channel full time and quitting his day job. So if there is anything you can do to support his channel, it would be great. He needs more viewers who can also learn more about the technology of the future. Thanks in advance, Tony
@Alex-qx7jn
@Alex-qx7jn 4 жыл бұрын
Would it be fair to say that unlike fosil cars, the electric car's residual heat was already dissipated during the production and transformation of the electric power.
@commandermckoy
@commandermckoy 4 жыл бұрын
Me: yoo, what's up. **Starts video** Bjørn: yoo, what's up. **finally subbed** Planning to buy a Tesla as my first brand new car. Thanks for your in depth and very informative videos. Edit: Bjorn > Bjørn ... shiiii...
@jonmisje5452
@jonmisje5452 4 жыл бұрын
Ha en god romjul, alle sammen
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