2023 McLaren Artura Review // The Worst Best Car Ever

[@Stuey105]

The 671hp number popping up so often is likely because it converts to 500kW.

[@juliantaffa4089]

Yep, metric gang for life

[@chainringcalf]

They rounded to 500kW, converted to hp, and left the ridiculous "precision"

[@NO3V]

I LOVE thoughtless precision! My favorites are commemorative tattoos marking the back left corner of the tattoo parlour instead of a less precise coordinate for the city. Rolls-Royce recently also marked the retention pond at their factory on the door sill of the Ghost!! (Doug DeMuro's video 5:23)

[@hi_tech_reptilez]

Ahhh, reminds me of the "276hp" JDM gentleman's agreement lol

[@juliantaffa4089]

@@hi_tech_reptilez yep, that was an agreement for 200kw. Crazy how far engines have come now

[@tavarish]

I have never seen an Artura that works. Never.

[@ardonjr]

Said the man with 'not-a-working-P1' 😅 (which we by the way, love to see some updates from (it has been 12 days already.. love your video's)

[@KINGVONFRM063]

Maybe you should buy one for cheap and make it work?

[@ardonjr]

@@KINGVONFRM063 lol! Like he hasn't enought projects to finish yet ;)

[@joseph7860]

1200 miles in slightly over a month in mine and I've been driving it hard, been faultless. But seems i always get "lucky" with my McLarens

[@snakeeyes9246]

I just realized this is Tavarish.

[@BIGGELATO]

Glad you're keeping McLaren accountable, or else they'll keep making unreliable cars. Someone has to do it!

[@shannacollins4741]

Accountable? Do you really think that McLaren cares they are gonna keep putting out the same crap as long as the RICH folks keep buying them !

[@jjjfo1818]

Other than the very important screens overheating, there’s nothing unreliable about this car

[@andychang7137]

This is the main reason that I haven’t get an McLaren lol

[@RomanticPopPunk]

@@andychang7137 lol same, that’s definitely the reason haha….

[@MrJamesguy1]

So what did you guys get? ;p

[@LucasMp]

I have just two things to say. 1) The level of content that you guys create is absolutely nuts. Love this channel. 2) the fact that both screens on a car that's about a quarter million dollars can (and fucking will) overheat that easily and constantly, while being THAT slow, is just absurd. That's beyond unacceptable.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

It's astounding some of the engineering decisions they make - technology aside even their engineering is often very questionable - one I recently became aware of is they put skeletal cast conrods in most of their V8's - ostensibly to save rotating mass - but the real outcome is a lot of McLaren models are very prone to bending rods. I mean, they could at LEAST use forged rods on all their cars, given how expensive they all are - and when you are asking a small V8 to produce big power at big revs, the last thing you should be doing is trying to use skinny cast conrods just so the engine revs a fraction more freely - hell even my low revving Lexus V8 has forged rods, and it was a fraction of the cost of even an "entry level" McLaren. The engine they use is derived from a Nissan unit developed for racing - Nissan NEVER put cast rods in it though.

[@ConnorHammond]

@@Beer_Dad1975 Exactly what happened to Tavarish's 675LT, RIP engine.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@ConnorHammond Yup that was how I found out about it - fair enough that he'd added a lot of power to it - but then when he goes and talks to the McLaren guru who shows how absolutely shit the rods are...

[@Lukeywoodsey]

​@@Beer_Dad1975in fairness they said that's if you added more power, you shouldn't really need to modify a car with that much power

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@Lukeywoodsey They are still really shockingly tiny - and a lot of owners are going to want to tune these cars - they should have at least SOME level of safety overhead.

[@the_deee]

James saying "It's the full McLaren experience" while slowly tapping TH's Business card is so hilarious

[@surfer101ist]

That’s the moment I bursted out laughing. 10/10

[@namegoeshere2903]

..and yet truer words were never spoken...

[@mikeoconnell9019]

I love the face he makes it’s like so serious 😂

[@NXT_LVL]

I actually laughed thinking of Freddy Tavarish and his hurricane flooded P1

[@3ducs]

Credit card actually. The full McLaren experience involves spending a LOT of money. That open was pure comedic gold.

[@R03333]

I've said it before & I'll say it again, whats happened to McLaren is that for years people said the cars were phenomenal but lacked the "character" of their Italian rivals. McLaren then employed (I presume in labcoats) "character experts" to go and analyse cars that were reviewed as having lots of it so they could mimic some. Unfortunately they chose to take the character of old italian stuff that just didn't work 50% of the time. "ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG"

[@user-kj1yx5sg3g]

The feature, like Ferrari, is that you need to own more than one. So you can have one in the driveway while the other is in the shop. Then alternate.

[@R03333]

@@user-kj1yx5sg3g truly the Italian exotic experience

[@boostav]

@@user-kj1yx5sg3g Ferrari's are very reliable these days

[@cronoz-sensei4259]

@@boostav eh...depends which one. And a lot of the issues with Ferrari isnt rly that theyre unreliable crapboxes (not anymore at least), more so that they use super weird and prone to break systems like the 4wd in the Ferrari FF (which I lowkey would love to get coz I think hatchback Ferrari is such a cool car idea, but the cost of replacing that thing when it breaks makes me second guess it), which is also insanely expensive to replace when it breaks. Funnily enough, 2005 onwards Maseratti Quatroportes are very reliable and give you that Ferrari flat plane crank v8 experience, with more practicality to boot.

[@dddd-uk4vn]

@@cronoz-sensei4259 the FF is an excepetion, which is why it depreciated so badly. 99% of ferraris especially newer ones are reliable with good build quality

[@chunbaouk]

I can see lots of comments (quite rightly) congratulating you on the excellent production value of your videos these days, but I just wanted to say as great as that is, what I love most about your videos is the writing, the comedy, the honesty, the chemistry and the integrity of your takes. I hope as you become ever more successful, you guys never lose that!

[@dewjustin]

It bothered me so much when straight pipes had more subs than TH. Literal opposite of all of those qualities you just wrote out.

[@Blamant]

@@dewjustin I can't even watch the straightpipes anymore. It's so irritating to watch.

[@EricDMMiller]

Their production quality is exactly the inverse of McLaren.

[@blackfire_x2964]

@@dewjustinThat was ages ago at this point. But yeah it irritated me as well

[@lepe]

what the hell is wrong with you? just enjoy the video and comment about it if u want. stop circlejerking

[@CH-qt4hr]

Interesting that the Car and Driver write up doesn't mention the atrocious build quality much at all. Kudos to Throttle House for keeping it real.

[@dillonsrt]

Welk much like video game reviews...they can be bought that's why big company reviews shouldn't be trusted at all

[@coreyk288]

Man, throttle house has come so far in such a relatively short period of time. It doesn’t seem that long ago that we’re discussing “regular traffic” cars. Now nearly every single video contain some of the most exciting cars currently made. Hats off to you guys

[@MumrikDK]

I don't find it one-sidedly positive that they're reviewing fewer relevant cars.

[@TermlessHGW]

If anyone is watching TH on their phone...you're missing out on the quality of delivered entertainment.

[@Delta0429]

They still do regular cars, just mostly on the Extra Throttle House channel instead. Recently they've done the AWD Hybrid Corolla and the Prius Prime, both pretty "normal" cars

[@spencerwhitmore1896]

​@@TermlessHGWand how is that?

[@egorlike1324]

Kinda wish they d review more pedestrian cars

[@crazyleafscanuck]

Nailed it. I own one and the gremlins are something you take hand in hand owning a McLaren. Turn it off and on again has been my approach. You put up with it because the driving experience is unmatched. McLaren also offered a 3 year fully covered service plan and 5 year warranty on the Artura to cover any reliability concerns. It was enough of a differentiator for me to trade in my McLaren GT. Funny enough I offered Karston through a common friend if you guys wanted to drive mine. Was super excited to see this review drop!

[@G0ddEityawesome]

The warranty term is BS because there is a high chance mclaren will go out of business in a few years 😂

[@marty1035]

About as BS as your comment.@@G0ddEityawesome

[@florencebaendes2853]

F no. I will not spending my money on some unreliable bs crap just because driving experience. I don't want to be another Paul Skywalker lol. And talking about experience, a kart would give you the same experience. You fanboys are just delusional

[@Ov3RFLoW88]

@@G0ddEityawesome then Volkswagen group will acquire it as they did with Lambo, Bugatti

[@Nathan0A]

I drove one at a press event and when asked, they told me the warranty was VOIDED if you drive it on track without first having a full inspection done on the car before EVERY trackday. No thanks.

[@HeartyJune]

The production level is just crazy and gets me each time. Cant believe we get this on youtube. I am so happy they got the recognition they deserve and managed to grow so much

[@NXT_LVL]

After watching how Freddy Tavarish is taking parts from ALL the previous 600 and 700 series to fix his P1 and pointing out THIS part in a P1 was in a 675.

[@KapuraIII]

Incredible opening skit, one of the best in recent memory. The one shot of james face from below, the cuts to the card reader, the delivery, [chef kiss]

[@micahnichols155]

Give a raise to whoever did the sound design on this video, fucking awesome!

[@jonathanmiri3483]

Incredible sound engineering!!

[@prit04]

Harrison is the sound engineer

[@prit04]

Harrison the 6’6” rear seat headroom tester and sounds engineer extraordinaire

[@Beer_Dad1975]

If only KZbin supported Dolby Atmos it would be perfect.

[@GuyGamer1]

​@@Beer_Dad1975Why, do you have roof firing speakers or something? Or more than 9 speakers?

[@TheAlexanderswagner]

This episode was so good. When Thomas was done driving and the scene went silent, I was half expecting it to cut to a cheering audience back at the studio. Well done lads

[@albrechtjohnj]

It's shocking that the Artura isn't sorted by now. I saw a pre-production Artura at a show more than 2 years ago.

[@patthonsirilim5739]

hand built british supercar wasnt a recipe for reliability in the first place now throw in twin turbo and extra battary and ev motor into the mix with a dash of tablet touch screen control sure does wonders for its reliability.

[@BERZERKERSV4]

yup... just like the Emira...

[@AI-qd4vb]

​@@patthonsirilim5739None of what you said has nothing to do with it's poor reliability. Just a bunch of fairly racist remarks and ignorant nonsense. The car is not reliable because of the poor QA process that McLaren choose to implement. Nothing more nothing less. The company or their investors simply dont want to invest in QA for these cars and their buyers simply don't care about that. Pretty much the same with all high end cars (which is usually what the brits build). There's been plenty of reliable budget cars made in the UK.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

​@@AI-qd4vbthose budget cars are rarely any good

[@PenjaminFranklinn]

​@AI-qd4vb what does racism have to do with this 😂😂

[@ChrisJones-yh2os]

Omg. This is a masterclass in honesty without unkindness. And it left me wishing I could afford this car.

[@NHHD]

This is the best automotive channel on youtube, really enjoy your content!

[@eyescreamization]

I would consider savagegeese...but otherwise you are right.

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

Nahh carwow with there drag races is the best >>>>>

[@Ar1AnX1x]

@@DevKumar-bi2ld carwow and Doug are better details and other stuff about the car other than the driving but TH is focused on the driving and how much of a driver's car it is, plus they basically make mini-movies and their episodes has literal Writing in it, which at times are pretty Witty which no other car channel does except for Squid and a bunch of others who basically make Documentaries.

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

@@Ar1AnX1x yeah not denying what have you just said but, for me drag races , rolling races, breaking test are more enjoyable that's why I preferred carwow, plus I like the comedic rivalry between mat and yianni.

[@Jezzrichjames]

An amazing introduction…gets better every time, and also, this is one of the most genuine reviews I’ve ever seen, showing not only the idyllic parts of the vehicle, but also showing all the faults, rattles, and pieces falling apart. I also love how this review is about how it is to drive the car, rather than just how the infotainment system works, or how it looks pulling up to a bougie hotel or restaurant.

[@shobin05]

Its a real shame McLaren has many quality issues. I always root for them seeing as how small they are compared to equivalent supercar makers. They need to focus on quality control fast or they're going to face the same faith as jaguar is right now.

[@jeromehaywood1]

That's never going to happen. McLaren has one of the best supercars on the market. The performance alone is makes them a timeless brand.

[@47omkarrane]

*fate

[@notagain2856]

Their quality issues mean Mclarens depreciate much faster than Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Great for those wanting to experience the performance but not willing to fork out msrp for a new one.

[@yofolkdem1256]

​@@jeromehaywood1doesn't take long to go from timeless to utter joke. "You like burning money ? Buy a McLaren and watch both go up in flames."

[@kylem324]

@@jeromehaywood1 Hi. As someone that’s cheering for McLaren, it’s a problem that they really need to address. As an OEM they really need to make their cars more appealing to long term ownership. For instance, among the original P1 owners, there’s a number of them that have sold their cars because they don’t want the headache that comes with the milieu of service and maintenance issues. Reliability, durability, and build quality are all luxuries that you might not think about until you notice their absence. Not being inconvenienced or wasting time is a significant luxury.

[@R8andGT3Fan]

I think the 296 and this are not rivals, despite technical similarities...this is "the baby McL", the 570S successor. 488/F8/296 are on 720S/750S territory. Loved the sincere review! Keep doing this, guys!

[@anuragmathur4358]

Bought my Artura in Feb in Toronto. It does have "quirks" but the driving experience is insane.....no matter what speed or road you are on. The car is brilliant! This car is all about how it makes you feel. If that is what you are looking for, then have a drive in it. There are times it has some issues (i.e. entertainment display does not come on) but there are workarounds (just do a hard reset by holding down the home button). But when you put it in track mode.....it's a perfect drivers car. The option of driving in electric downtown Toronto, not disturbing anyone, is fantastic. Well done TH for an honest review.

[@ThrottleHouse]

That’s epic man hope you continue to enjoy it! What colour did you pick?

[@kraenk12]

Quirks

[@anuragmathur4358]

@@ThrottleHouse Elite Plateaux Grey. Would love to show it to you guys and give you my thoughts on the car and real world driving. Given we live in the same city.

[@raytrace2014]

I love eclectic driving in Toronto. The city is famous for it. Some corners are taken like a soccer mom and the next moment you're charging down the street like an F1 driver.

[@anuragmathur4358]

Quirks because it does not take away from the driving experience. The 4th 911 (992S) I had prior to Artura had a transmission issue in the first 2 months where a new one needed to be shipped from Germany to replace it. That is a serious issue vs a quirk requiring the screen to be rebooted. I love Porsche but a lot of the issues I had with the 911's were kept under wraps. @@kraenk12

[@jonathancollard3710]

I’m sticking with my 570 Spider. 4.5 years of ownership and no issues. My advice; buy the car into its 2nd year of manufacture so all the niggles have been ironed out. Same happened with 12C and the 720S…. Overall a stupendous drivers car and yes, the steering is sublime and I don’t need more than 570 horses to have fun at twice the legal U.K. speed limit. Deffo a keeper now I cancelled my Emira order….

[@macbooker]

Good call. Emira sucks big time, you dodged a bullet. So many issues.

[@dns9155]

@@macbookerreally? What are the issues?

[@macbooker]

@@dns9155 yeah, software updates, battery not recharging, engine going into limp mode. It is fun when it works, but sucks when issues happen.

[@IDv8I]

How well do the manufacturers take you taking the piss out of them all the time, lol? I do love the wit and detail of all your reviews, from a grocery getter to a supercar, thanks boys.

[@pistonburner6448]

They just recommended it, and in addition to that conditioned McLaren's customers to give them a lot of leeway and not complain even if the cars are incredibly unreliable...any manufacturer would thank them for that!

[@LanguagesWithAndrew]

Well, we know that BMW has bitched at them about how much they complain about their cars' aesthetic because they've outright mentioned it on the channel.

[@IDv8I]

@@LanguagesWithAndrew Well, I think we all agree BMW deserved that. They spoke about how they would say it like it is on the Smoking Tire podcast. So respect.

[@W_Ivar]

The heat coming from the exhaust at 2:58 was just a cherry on the cake of that shot 👌🏻😊

[@theepicricemaker6611]

Took me a lot of looking to clock that

[@Sagginballs]

@@theepicricemaker6611i was looking at the back of the car for a good 20 sec

[@davidbee9563]

There are certain markets which tax/limit cars according to specs. Hence the previous crop of sub 4 litre turbo supercars. Now sub 3 litre v6 models with hybrid assist. Or quotes of a number when clearly the power train produces much more. Not unlike the Japanese limit of 280ish hp 30 years ago. As long as the cars are good it doesn't really matter, unless you are GM selling a 6 litre n/a v8 worldwide.

[@HemiHalfCentury]

THE FACT THAT THIS IS FREE ON KZbin IS MIND BOGGLING. THE PRODUCTION QUALITY IN THE FIRST 2 MINUTES IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING SHORT OF MAHBE TOP GEAR IVE EVER SEEN ON TV YOUVE OUTDONE YOURSELVES I CANT WAIT TO SEE YALL BLOW TF UP EVEN MORE

[@flacjacket]

Excellent, I watched this while driving in to work in my McLaren this morning! Okay fine I watched it on the side of the road while waiting for the tow truck.

[@william.hannan]

Finally, McLaren is represented. I have a McLaren since 2021 and I haven’t had any issues at all. The car is solid. Anytime James and Thomas are in Carlsbad, if I’m around, they can test drive my 2020 McLaren 600LT Spider. While I appreciate the compliments in driving the Artura, I think they will have a new found appreciation for McLaren after testing the 600LT. McLaren offers different experiences depending on the car. I have only run into a handful of McLaren owners who felt like they bought a car with mechanical issues. Those were all very early MP4-12C models. I hope they choose to review more since I love their take on things. Including the silly messing about. Keep it up guys. Very entertaining.

[@Caffeinated-DaVinci]

You got a 600 unit limited production run specialty vehicle. The Artura is 'mass produced' (as much as a $250k supercar can be mass produced) with no production cap. I can't say that's really comparable to the Artura outside of price range. It's like comparing a $50,000 specially built quantum computer to a similarly priced Apple PC. It's just not the same.

[@petezee6645]

So many reviews of British made cars start with a pisstake of their reliability. A8 did a great Range Rover Sport review that started with it arriving on a tow truck 😂

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

Because, generally speaking and with few exceptions, British cars are some of the most unreliable pieces of trash on the roads. No matter the cost

[@LeonRivia]

🤣🤣

[@rafaelcid8510]

Because a lot of people hate the UK. The British cars are as reliable as the german or italian cars. Europeans are all the same in terms of reliability.

[@mabedfo]

I just love the throttle house guys style of reviewing cars. Canadian and Englishman, such good chemistry together, always entertaining, great opinions.

[@kjyu]

671HP is 500kW that's why the number!

[@kyzer97320]

Noooooo just nooooo😂 it's because of slight differences between hp in europe and us.

[@reaver9]

Guys hands down this is the top car channel- the humor, thedepth of reviews without sugar coating and quality of the footage - all superb. Keep it up!

[@somerandomfella]

Surely Maclaren can allocate some money to quality control by now..

[@junyaiwase]

Surely.

[@TML34]

@@junyaiwaseThey can’t and stop calling me Shirley.

[@davu6712]

these are bespoke low volume cars, these things will always happen

[@junyaiwase]

@@TML34 sorry 🥲

[@rotoehu9266]

McLaren Automative are broke. This maybe the model that finishes them off if it isn’t a success. Almost everyone loves how a McLaren drives but it would seem to date very few owners are prepared to stay with the brand after what is often awful ownership experience due to poor quality topped off by abysmal resale when they’ve finally had enough.

[@j.mo22]

the production level you guys did on this video is top notch compared to the past ones. this has hagerty feels. really takes it to a different level.

[@endorphinity]

Well, guys, you two are the most poetic car journalists I've ever seen. Bravo and thanks for this state-of-the-art review.

[@pm9625]

This production level is just incredible. Thank you all for what you do, we all win because you guys work hard

[@rmp5s]

The "screw that used to be attached to the car" is friggin hilarious. That's the most "British car" thing I've ever seen. 🤣

[@JerryCarterJr-kg7hq]

Just received my Artura on Saturday so far no issues. I agree with you both, it is truly a great car

[@JemaKnight]

671 hp = 500 kW (rounded to the nearest whole number) No idea *why* that's being used as a figure though. Might mean something to the regulations of some market it gets exported to, carried into other markets the same way as with Japanese automakers agreeing to limit cars to 276 hp / 206kW. Something that still occurs even on non-Japanese automakers, long after the "agreement" has ended. Or, might just be a nice round number close _enough_ to the average output of the engines that it's just what they went with.

[@NXT_LVL]

maybe to offset the "quirks" aka issues in the quality. ironically 671 is more precise than 500... 500 is what you say when you dont know what it makes but you have an idea based on the parts... so 500. other than 671 because thats what the dyno said or you actually know EXACTLY the PRECISE figures.

[@Ovenman940]

I guess engineers use kW because it's easier to do maths for acceleration, etc., and the early planning stages of what a car will be and where it will sit in the market are based around things like number of seats, number of doors... and where the power should be. The engine could do more but it sacrifices other factors, so the rough number becomes the exact number.

[@kyzer97320]

​@@Ovenman940 680 metric hp is just equal to 671 imperial hp. That's it.

[@Edu.3]

The fact that we get to watch this level of production on YT is astounding. I love the work TH is putting into quality.

[@drjk7565]

I think Thomas was on the verge of tears when he talks about the steering feedback of the Artura, but given it's hydraulic I'd say it's almost an unfair advantage in a world where everyone else uses electric steering racks. I imagine every modern car he reviews after this (and the Emira) is going to disappoint him.

[@dnice362]

Not unfair. Mclaren are phenomenal

[@vertrox3435]

You’re right, it’s *almost* unfair. Thing is, there’s nothing stopping other manufacturers from using hydraulic racks (except their apparent disregard for driver experience)

[@BERZERKERSV4]

@@dnice362 it's all BS.. these cars are owned/driven by posers whereby the car sounds more time parked in the garage and the owners spend more time bragging at the local pub..

[@proinseasokiellig4388]

@@BERZERKERSV4 BOLLOX

[@AI-qd4vb]

​@@proinseasokiellig4388what is? These cats should live at the tracks, yet they're seen more often at the bars...

[@slimuttam]

Can KZbin have a "love" option instead of just a like? Your videos are beyond amazing and I don't know about Thomas, but I literally had tears watching him talk about how good the driving experience was. Throttle House is the best!

[@Joey.Alford]

Karston absolutely CRUSHED this edit!

[@lockingdiff]

I had an Artura for review for about 8 days. It was absolutely amazing. But after I filmed my review, I got a few errors as well. The screen would btch and moan, but never shut off. Eventually the airbag light came on, I got a system comms fault, driver's side seat error, and something else. When it works, it is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. McLaren has recalled hundreds of cars below a certain VIN before customers can take delivery. They are scrapping them, salvaging non-electric components, and are sending customers/dealerships brand new cars with new VINs, new software, updated hardware, and new electrical hardware.

[@souliyachittarath4407]

Kinda sad that TH didn’t clarify that the the screw is critical to the infotainment. It is known as the infotainment screwed.

[@jayymac]

BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO. Production quality and editing keep out-doing themselves every single time. It’s like watching the original Top Gear in 2023. Writing and presentation is emotional. Chemistry is great. Jokes are great. Honesty is great. I could watch reviews like this all day, every day. Best automotive KZbinrs in the game. How do you not have your own network show by now???

[@Luke-cb3ly]

the reason people say the Artura doesn't compete with the 296 is because the 296 is way more expensive, and it's faster than the 765LT in the 1/4 mile or a rolling race. if the 296GTB is faster than the 765LT it means the performance difference between the 296 and the Artura is huge, so they aren't even in the same category

[@dhanu_4539]

I don't know, you could say it's a budget 296. Speed isn't everything and both of them are next generation hybrid supercars. I think this could give the 296 a run for it's money but not with these kinds of reliability issues. Anyways I prefer the 296 it looks much more special than this generic McLaren look

[@chisomezekude9977]

It’s not about the speed now it’s the driver engagement. The depth of it is crazy

[@patthonsirilim5739]

@@dhanu_4539 anything beyond 600hp is more then fast enough to be honest you would get more pleasure from handaling and engagement the artura is a great car but the reliability issue really needs to get solve it gets old real quick when your ac or sound system dont work of you dont get acess to your cluster or the hybrid system just decide to shit the bed when your out around town driving your brand spanking new supercar.

[@dc-fc7tp]

imo it competes with the mc-20 both v6 in the same price bracket.

[@dhanu_4539]

@@dc-fc7tp the MC 20 is old fashioned even for previous generation cars. It's a different category because it's a different kind of driving experience not because of the price or the engine. And I'm not saying the MC 20 is bad, if you buy a hybrid super car you'll be dealing with much higher repair and maintenance costs compared something like the MC 20

[@Wisesap]

Thank you guys!! Well articulated. I had a 600LT Spider and I would have described it exactly as you did the Artura. Put a smile on my face every time. Was amazing in the mountains. A friend once said it was like cheating it was so good. Yes, there are “quirks”, but as most McLaren owners will say, you live with those because the driving experience is stellar.

[@meatpunch9144]

Sold my 600LT for a new 992 Porsche GT3 and it's so much better than any McLaren it's crazy. Better build quality, reliability, and fun. Just say no to British cars

[@diluxe]

If mclaren can't sort the quality issues out on the review cars what hope is there for customers cars.

[@icriou]

The production level, humor and the depth of the review are so good!

[@BallinBubblegum]

I would have liked to hear how this compares to the Maserati MC20. Which seems to be the closest competitor to this price wise.

[@agentpt]

Maseratis never fail to disappoint unlike this MGEx

[@BallinBubblegum]

@@agentpt Eh I disagree. Most of their cars aren’t great yeah but I’ve only heard good things about the MC-20.

[@LF-du4uc]

Well If the quality of the car is garbage, the production quality of TH videos is through the roof. Keep it up guys!

[@johnnyxp64]

Policeman: sir i pulled you over because you were speeding do you know how fast you were going? McLaren owners: no idea officer if you could tell me would appreciate it by screens are off again can't see a dm thing 😂

[@thedavenaugler]

You guys are so easy to listen to! It’s enjoyable to listen to you guys review a vehicle. Definitely puts a smile on my face! Change nothing, keep everything!

[@Driven-Productions]

Amazing content guys. You nail it every time. Did I hear you say this was your first McLaren review?

[@chinkwong2294]

First huge KZbin car reviewer to actually tell the people how unreliable and difficult it is to own one. thank you

[@nickt4731]

This is unacceptable. Maybe if McLaren did make some SUVs they would have some money for some okay quality control.

[@MrMlbfan6]

Not really lol

[@АртемПрохоров-Лукин]

What are you talking about?? British car manufactures has never ever was friends with word *reliability*. If Mclaren ever build an SUV,than it's still will be with poor quality and reliability issues. Mclaren is British,what else you can expect from them?🤣🤣Love the F1 tho))🙃

[@nickt4731]

I understand we're both of you are saying truly I do. But McLaren seems to be especially bad when it comes to reliability and problems. And dealing with those problems. Jay Emm on cars made several videos about several poor experiences dealing with McLaren. As consumers who are spending such a large amount of money on cars, people should demand better. A car that costs 1/15 as much should not be better put together, and I'm not sure why people make excuses for them.

[@dengernoodle4391]

Maybe they should make physical buttons so you don’t lose everything at once when the infotainment overheats

[@MLHunt]

Land Rover resents your comment

[@SilverScarletSpider]

17:00 i love this rant. But I love Jaguars, Aston Martins, Lotuses, and McLarens more. But then again, you are right about the build quality.

[@Smilingpolitely553]

Funny how much hate the new NSX got and now everyone is copying their homework

[@dengernoodle4391]

Like how the NSX was copying the p1’s homework?

[@pistonburner6448]

No-one is copying NSX, and the NSX was criticised for very good reason.

[@GVIrish]

The NSX weighed 600 lbs more than this car and had 3 motors to the Artura's one. McLaren (and Ferrari) recognized that extra motors and electric thrust aren't worth the weight penalty, they definitely did not follow Honda's lead. They already understood before the NSX even got launched.

[@kraenk12]

The NSX was criticised for being no NSX.

[@Smilingpolitely553]

Fair but also in a completely different class of car.

[@lasseblomqvist9378]

Thanks for yet another epic review. 🙏 Just watched the launch event for the new Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale. What a beautiful vehicle. They talked a lot about the importance of dreaming at the event and the dream that instantly popped up in my head was not to drive it myself, but for you guys, the Throttle House team, to come here to Europe and review that amazing piece of machinery on some twisty Italian roads. That is how close to the heart your reviews have become. ❤

[@philipschrantz8402]

A beautiful car, but the argument “But it’s got great dynamics” just doesn’t cut it. After all, that’s the fundamental premise of the car. Why should anyone accept faults from a $200,000 car that they’d be enraged over in a $30,000 daily driver? Worse, McLaren knows their cars are poorly built and seem to remain arrogantly unconcerned. The web is full of examples of horror stories regarding McLaren’s shoddy service and poor treatment of their customers. If I ever reach an understanding with the lottery commission, McLaren will not be on my shopping list…😎

[@stupidmemes3955]

u get faults from most supercars now adays. and the ones that run fine are usually the bland and boring ones

[@larssonk22]

The perfect imperfect car Irony, I own a Vauxhall VXR, the Ricardo seats will all squeek when I drive over a leaf, something in the dash is rattling, just the other day I found a screw in the footwell, no clue where it came from but I love it.

[@jacobrev6567]

The intro is never change at all 😂👍

[@antaldamian]

it's always such a pleasure to see your videos. they just keep getting better and better. Congrats to the TH team!!

[@douglasdale8592]

Your editor needs a raise after this masterpiece!

[@Kevin-xv2nh]

What's his salary now? 🤔

[@paulk4534]

The Artura is much improved on reliability, than previous McLarens. The company is going in the right direction. As someone that owns two 911 Turbos and previously owned a McLaren 570S, I would take this over a 911 Turbo all day.

[@DanDoesGame]

LOL!! The intro.... Kinda stinks that the new car is having issues. Back to square one I guess with McLaren. I thought they had resolved there issues (why I edited this comment) didn't see the parts of you showing all the broken stuff 🤣🤣

[@dashawnking5555]

I truly wonder if manufacturers get mad about how honest these reviews are there’s no sugar coating just honest professional reviews

[@arierickson6137]

I wonder if that 671 hp figure is like a "gentlemen's agreement" type deal of some sort. Or maybe it's high enough a number for the lower model cars to sound wildly impressive but low enough that 700+ sounds absolutely unbelievable. Idk but that's odd.

[@ralfrudi3963]

671 bhp is just an odd number in the imperial system. 671 bhp is about 680 metric horsepower (yes, there is a tiny difference) and about 500 kW, which is the unit most likely to be used by the engineers. So they went for a nice round number in 500 kW and then the marketing department has to convert it to the odd 671 bhp.

[@AbrahamArthemius]

It's just the converted number from 500kW. Nothing special about honestly.

[@arierickson6137]

@@ralfrudi3963 ohhhh ok I see I didn't realize that! Thanks for clarifying! :)

[@baoquoc3710]

it's now feel like the Japanese gentleman's 276HP standard all over again, just now had been raised accordingly

[@arierickson6137]

@@baoquoc3710 yea that's kinda what I'm saying like I'm understanding the 500 kw conversion now that it was explained but why are most cars making 500 kw?! I think it might just be an industry thing where nobody wants to set the power precedent for their brand so high that they can't reach it with all their models.

[@sthetix]

I took delivery of my Artura in May (my 6th McLaren) and I'm already selling it. Everything was working well but it was too slow on the track, as I primarily track my McLarens. The only problem I have with the Artura is that McLaren should not have categorized it under "Super Series!" The battery is good early on to eliminate turbo lag but at mid to max speeds it's only as powerful as it's V6 and no more! My top speed at my local track was ~125 mph, compared to my 720s doing 148mph. It's a fantastic all around canyon and twisties car if you never take it to track and expect high track performance!

[@jansvoboda3954]

Pretty sure you guys have more quality control on these videos than McLaren on their cars.

[@krabo83]

that intro was just brilliant! you guy's are the PR-departments worst nightmare... keep up the great and honest reviews.

[@dawnpoint]

90 seconds in and Karston has already blown me away with the edit. We don’t deserve such a legend.

[@MatthewGaither]

If I had $250k extra laying around I'd try and deal with the Artura's build quality issues. They certainly nailed the most important aspects and for that I am impressed. Thanks, TH team!

[@azhanamran9194]

Sadly you have nothing😢

[@BrandurnPorchiga]

Ignore that other idiot. Just another zombie trying to bring down others because they have less than nothing.

[@zn9861]

Love your honesty!

[@stefantorozov7508]

The beginning of the video with the car introduction is definitely bringing old Top Gear vibes, outstanding video as always. You are definitely the best car review channel out there.

[@Rebourn135]

After having just paid 10k to a McLaren dealership (where I saved 12k by doing a lot of the work myself first, but some things just aren't doable in your garage), the opening bit hits me right in the nuts! Also, I am moving from the 650s Spider to a 720s Spider. The dealer desperately tried to sell me on the Artura instead. I drove one of my friends' Artura before the dealer's, and my mind hasn't been changed. There is no general argument for the Artura over a 720s, and IMO, there isn't an argument for an Artura over the 650s. It sounds like shit compared to the 650/720. Then you add that there isn't (yet) a Spider, which is the number one reason I bought McLaren over the competitors; the McLaren carbon monocoque allows for the convertible to not compromise structural rigidity when cornering, which if you've never experienced chassis twist on a convertible supercar (like a Huracan/488), it's gut wrenching. All that being said, I would take the Artura over 99.9% of cars, just not over almost any other supercar.

[@homefish2031]

What an amazing video you guys do such a good job at actually capturing the essence of every car without sounding like the pamphlet from the factory. Also I love the Delta Integrale gauge on Thomas's shirt

[@EdSalyards]

Beautiful car. No way I'd take this over a Turbo S. Reliability is just not there in this vehicle. I would take the Lotus over this as well just for the manual engagement. Still a very nice car.

[@The_Lightless]

I mean the turbo S isn’t the most reliable car in the world either but it’s better than this lol

[@earlmacmullin4688]

Production level: Amazing. Intro: Hilarious. Hosts: Wonderfully witty, as always. Subject: Beautiful & exotic. Another superb video from the TH team. Side note: I wonder if you could fix the cluster rattles with a "squeak & rattle kit" from Toyota... Used them on both my NC Miatas to fix cluster-cover rattles hahaha 😅

[@Drew_Koch]

Wonderful review as always. Stupid tech for tech/cheapness sake. I hate it so much. I didn't even think about the fact that the displays could potentially overheat and shutoff. HVAC controls absolutely should be a physical control. Even the interface, why swipe up? Why can't you just touch it? Completely diverts the driver's attention from driving. And yes, those thick bezels look terrible.

[@g.r.2985]

Another sweet review, guys! Having watched most of your reviews, always amazes me that OEMs even let you drive their cars anymore (Mercedes and "Plugs are for Butts" comes to mind), but that must be the power of quality reviews and subs. But on that note, must be getting old to hear how good your reviews are. Keep up the great work, boys!

[@jamesbarbato2192]

One of my customers purchased a McLaren 3 months later when I saw him again he said he sold it because of the quality issues and constant problems.

[@spb78art]

The cinematography of this review is outstanding

[@xxpforgie]

You guys never dissapoint😂

[@MH3914]

Man you guys are absolutely killing it with the filming quality. This is prime Top Gear style content!!!

[@EmoBirb]

What a terrible car, it's not even funny. The quality control is atrocious which is unacceptable at this price point, the design is generic and the powertrain isn't exciting. Just for comparison, the 296 is a Ferrari, it's prettier and comparatively better made. The Porsche 992 Turbo S is infinitely more well made, prettier, timeless, will hold it's value, is more usable and won't bankrupt you with maintenance bills. McLaren will follow Jaguar, MG and Lotus into obscurity, no doubt.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

A) You didn't watch the last 98% of the video did you? B) Jaguar just announced significant profits, MG are breaking their sales records on a consistent basis and Lotus have sold 4x the number of Emiras in half of 2023 that they did in all of 2022, plus have 30x that number of preorders for the Eletre. C) Or, if we're talking publicity, Jag never lacked it, MG have just launched their performance crossover thing, which is all over KZbin (e.g. Carwow drag races) and nobody has shut up about Lotus since the Emira was announced. Whatever anyone thinks of the cars, there's nothing obscure going on except your view of the world...

[@surfer101ist]

Shoutout to the editing crew. Getting better and better! The hype montage was sick 👍

[@Cameron08_]

How does a gauge cluster overheat😅

[@CJ-ui4tg]

Maybe has Google Chrome with 100 tabs

[@RobinSingh-lf3iq]

James has come a long way. One of the best car reviewers imo. Thomas is also right up there. Love seeing the passion in your videos. Keep it up as always!

[@your-neighbor]

They come in pair and do the reviews in pair, stop trying to individually compare them, it's an abomination.

[@OPC249]

"It's the for McLaren experience" 😂

[@HamzaMalik89]

video production quality is on another level! wow!

[@phillipthomas118]

😂 great intro😂 beautiful car but I’ll pass if it has that many issues.

[@jonaohana3376]

@throttlehouse I’m the fellow you met on top of the mountain driving a red 765 lt , Mclarens have gotten much much better at reliability and all owners I know have just minor items. They do rattle but that’s in part bc the car has very little sound deadening in order to give you the best power to weight , anyhow keep killing it guys but I’m putting a message here Mclarens are fine when it comes to reliability it’s a lot better than it was ! And service does a good job so if you can swing one go for it.

[@nreid90]

Artura could probably bankrupt McLaren with all the issues

[@Marcelmopartruckguy]

Only 1min 52 seconds in and this is the BEST audio/graphics/theme yet lol-back at er!!!!

[@geoffreycarter3981]

Can all the KZbinrs, or anybody else who has sway with big car manufacturers please come together and make the biggest stink ever about the terrible idea that touchscreens and infotainment systems are in cars. Nobody, I repeat nobody, likes to take 33 menus to turn the fan speed down. It’s dangerous, and it’s completely asinine.

[@SmolPotatowo]

I don't usually like skits in videos but I always watch yours! Always funny and it never drags on too long.

[@zeyadmosharraf3514]

how did meclaren go from making a reliable hypercar to now making unreliable cars

[@stevedance9981]

i've always loved cars your videos are really awesome and honestly i've never truly felt the great sense of majestic, presence, the attraction to a car from any videos except your videos. The production quality is unmatched and is very very clear you guys put a lot of efforts into making these videos keep up with the amazing work you do!