2023 Model Y RWD walkaround

[@jalogrono]

Not having the noisy and annoying Pedestrian Warning System is a great bonus! Congrats!😁

[@notinthemanual]

Cheers John. 110% agree

[@NickMitris]

Oh no. What manufacture date do these come standard? You make me want a model without it.

[@notinthemanual]

@@NickMitris I don’t know the exact date but I think it was 22nd of May. You can’t just put duct tape over it when it is your main horn too. Surely Tesla is getting complaints.

[@deano6964]

Glad to have seen your channel Matthew, thanks for sharing thus far. Cheers

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks Deano. Reach out if you want to know anything that isn’t in the videos.

[@HoggetNZ]

Welcome to the Y gang!

[@notinthemanual]

Haha. It’s definitely nice to be back in an SUV.

[@officetherapy]

Thanks for the detailed review!

[@bobuk5722]

Hi, thank you for this. I'm planning a purchase for my 75th.

[@bobuk5722]

Thanks for the ❤️. I want an MY as it will me easier to get out of and the trunk/boot easier for me to use. RWD range would be fine for me but previous cars have been AWD and I like the resulting cornering. It's a matter of saving up a bit more and investigating the insurance difference.

[@O000hShiny]

Contrats Matt, i enjoyed the pick up of my friends Y and loved the colour you have there too, wifey liked it as well so looks like this is what we will be getting next time. It definitely has a blue fleck in it. Enjoy

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks Joe. Yes I’m loving this colour much more than the solid black.

[@NaughtyGoatFarm]

Hey mate. We picked up our MY LR a few weeks ago. Happy days!

[@notinthemanual]

Awesome mate 😊. Sounds like the best fit you where you live. The LFP regen limiting downhill would have been annoying.

[@tyronemcgillick]

Congrats, I have the exact same but with 19" wheels. looking forward to your following videos

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks. I needed a break from wheel covers….I could live to regret it but I’m very happy with the 20” so far. Economy around the city has been almost as good as the model 3 and the Pilot Sport tyres are very nice.

[@LazyTesla]

Congrats

[@slimjim1125]

Completely agree with the PWS being too loud. My April built Model 3 from Shanghai has the "Superhorn" where the PWS speaker makes all normal horn sounds too. I hate the backup sound, and I've got some bits to disable the speaker while the car is in reverse. I have no idea why people would pay extra to have it fitted retrospectively!

[@notinthemanual]

Yes I remember you telling me about yours. I was hoping I would miss out on the PWS for this reason. I want the car to be safer around pedestrians but that isn’t the right way to do it. I think the white noise it makes in forward is good enough for reverse too.

[@BharatSuperPower3020]

Congrats, mate! Make sure you don't crash this one. 😂

[@notinthemanual]

Cheers Harry! I’ll try my best 😂

[@michaelharrington9966]

Congratulations, beautiful & very versatile car. I'm with you in regards to the parcel shelf - with past SUV's which we have owned, the parcel shelf has always ends up sitting in the garage, as it's a hassle for normal day to day use. Great video.

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks Michael. The only cargo blind I’ve found that stayed in the car most of the time is in my wife’s Mazda CX5. It attaches to the tailgate and lifts out of the way automatically. It’s a great design. With me throwing my bike in this car regularly even that style blind would have to come out. Also no good if you have dogs in the back regularly.

[@charlesma9410]

Hi and congrats! would you mind sharing the build date for your Model Y? Thanks

[@notinthemanual]

Hi Charles. Thanks. 12th of May so it luckily missed out on the PWS and parcel shelf.

[@ThePantheons]

This is exactly the model I wanna get mate. Love the long vid. Would be good to get a real world test range experience drive from you as a fellow sydneysider Enjoy

[@notinthemanual]

Cheers. I refuse to script my videos so they end up being a bit longer than I initially plan. I do have a rough plan in my head for what I will talk about but feel if I have to script it then I don’t really understand the topic. I’ve got to drive up to the Hunter for work on Wednesday so I’m hoping to film an economy test. Real world range tests are time consuming as these cars are super efficient around the city. It’s on the long list of videos I want to make with this car. I’m just time poor at the moment.

[@boraoku]

We use our 2023 Model Y RWD on a daily basis for taking our kids from Ultimo to Leichhardt for school, along with other typical city driving activities like weekend trips to the beach and grocery shopping. The city-driving range is quite good, exceeding 400km easily. However, during intercity travel at speeds well above 80km/h, the range diminishes, dropping to around 300km. As for the current charging stats of our car, it has covered a distance of 2900km with a total energy consumption of approximately 500kWh according to Tesla app. With a usable battery capacity of 57.5kWh, this translates to a range of about 330km. This lower average range can be attributed to the fact that more than half of the mileage consists of intercity driving exceeding 100km/h. One advantage of living in the city is the availability of many free 20kW charging stations. Free Tesla wall chargers are conveniently located next to superchargers and there are also other networks like ChargeFox, offering free charging. A valuable tip I'd like to share is related to financing an EV purchase through salary sacrifice. This method proves to be more economical than purchasing the car in casg. I personally followed this route and am still amazed by the outcome, especially after budgetting in all running expenses as tax deductibles. The main catch is, currently EVs are exempt from Fringe Benefit Tax (FBT), even if they are used exclusively for private purposes. You can find more information about this exemption on ATO’s website: www.ato.gov.au/Business/Fringe-benefits-tax/Types-of-fringe-benefits/fbt-on-cars,-other-vehicles,-parking-and-tolls/electric-cars-exemption/ And before you order make sure to use a referral code to get a $750 discount. Mine is here :) x.com/boraoku/status/1678182839081218051?s=46&t=zYZusD5kvxv3CP3LxZwSRw but maybe better use NITM’s referral which is in the video description :)

[@notinthemanual]

I just realised KZbin was holding some comments for review. Apparently it didnt like some of the words you were using haha. Thanks for all of this info. Yes, range is an area that is difficult to explain to people and is always the first question a non-ev owner will ask. Once you own an EV you get to understand how it all works. Its very difficult to acheive the displayed range on a Tesla which is why I totally ignore this and leave it as a percentage. The main figure is the consumption per km and the estimated SOC at arrival in the navigation. The engergy app is the best tool for range. It gives you range based on your driving style. Interesting about salary sacrifice. Thats good info to have here so thank you. Its not something that would suit my situation but will be useful to know for some.

[@MrPaulsim]

Careful with the wheels, I kerbed mine on the day I picked up the car ! first time in 40 years of driving.

[@notinthemanual]

Yes. I caught mine driving out of a shopping centre 2 days after I shot this vid. The MagBak RimCase work well. Not a perfect solution but they are all that’s available. I actually tested them properly in my review.

[@GunterDetroyer]

Hi Matthew, i have my Berlin model Y RWD since 6 days. There are a few differences noticeable compared to yours. The seats for example. I make some pictures and send them to you by email. I still cannot figure out if it is the BYD battery? Greetings from Belgium. Günter

[@notinthemanual]

Hi Günter. Interesting about the rear seats. Unfortunately I don’t know how you would tell battery type either. Maybe your range at 100%. Mine is 435km with 20”wheels. The BYD blade battery is slightly less capacity so will have a reduced range. I think 19” wheels show 455km at 100% with CATL battery. I think there would also be some interior differences with a structural battery pack. Might explain the differences with your seats.

[@ozsimflyer]

Nice video. Got the same wheels/tyres for my MYRWD23. Could you please let us know where you got your wheel protectors from. I’ve been paranoid driving mine around for the last 2 months.

[@notinthemanual]

Yes I’ve got a video in the edit stage on those protectors. There is nothing else on the market so they a little pricey but very similar price to the wheel covers on the 19”. They are from a company called MagBak and the product is called RimCase. You can use my link to buy them. Not sure if I’m supposed to give it out yet but here it is creators.magbak.com/not-in-the-manual2 You can use my code at checkout to get a discount MATTNOTINTHEMANUAL15 Take a look and see what you think. I’ve fitted them to my car and can recommend them. Little bit fiddly to fit at the beginning but they work well. I intentionally curbed my car for the vid and not a scratch. Don’t feel pressured to use my code either. If they have a sale going or offer you a better first purchase discount, take it.

[@ozsimflyer]

@@notinthemanual Cheers, thanks for that. Much appreciated.

[@Bronson9822]

Nice car. I'm guessing having a glass roof the interior would get very hot in summer. Still thinking of getting the model y though

[@notinthemanual]

Hi Mick. I think some people are a bit over the top about this. In my opinion it’s not a big deal. Like any car it gets hot if left in full sun on a hot day. The black interior doesn’t help. You can easily cool the car before you get back to it which is awesome. The glass is very good at shielding you from the direct sunlight but the issue is the glass itself heats up and radiates heat. Once you start driving and get some air flowing over the outside it’s not too bad. The MY is better as the glass is further from your head. Glass roof shades help but I rarely use them. You need to get roof shades that are reflective to be any use.

[@notinthemanual]

The glass roof is just like tinted door windows. They are great at shielding you from the heat but still get hot to touch. I am not a sunroof person but this glass roof is one of the nicest parts of the car. It really gives an open feel and a great view.

[@mashoook]

Congrats on the new ride! I have a year old 22 MY RWD, by way of comparison only real difference is easier access to the emergency door release in the rear seats. We have the rest of the other items you made mention of, rear seat size is the same. Do you have lumbar support in the new build? Will you be adding PWS to this one? I got around to installing a Satonic power frunk. Only thing that’s tricky is access to removing existing struts but overall not too difficult an install. Works really well and loving the ease of access. Also the haloblk products are great quality. I’m sure you will love them.

[@notinthemanual]

Hi Sam. After your comment on the Satonic brand I had a look at their website. I’m still in 2 minds as to which one to buy. Did you need to use Satonic customer support? How were they? I have some Haloblk accessories to install and I agree they are good quality. What I like is they are different from most other accessories on the market. I have bought them myself and managed to get a discount code for everyone to use. Reviews are coming.

[@notinthemanual]

Yes, the driver seat still has lumbar support. Same as my 3. The suspension feels very smooth on this model but I don’t have a previous build to compare too. Thanks for confirming the rear seats are the same. I will not be fitting the PWS speaker unless Tesla make some major changes to boombox and speaker control.

[@chrisrichmond8795]

Gday there, my Model Y comes in 2-3 weeks. Where did you get the rear boot liner & upper rear seat protectors?

[@notinthemanual]

Hey Chris. I got these from Braumach online store. Not sure if I like them yet but I needed something at short notice. It’s more the look and texture but the seat back protectors do catch a little when you fold the seats back up. It could just be they need a slight reposition. I had liners from Tesmanian for my Model 3 and they were great but they had no stock. I will most likely change to them at some stage. They are TPE and have more of the rubber look. These Braumach ones are more of a soft textured feel. They will probably grow on me and actually feel nice to sit on. It’s nice to be back in a SUV and have somewhere to sit out of the weather. Braumach have local stock and delivery was fast.

[@notinthemanual]

I just checked and Braumach are sold out. Jowua and Otrifowd have liners similar material to mine but are more expensive. For the rear seat protectors make sure you get the 3 piece set. I can highly recommend Tesmanian for quality but they aren’t soft feel type. It depends what you like.

[@fisherrr333]

Hi Matt, i cant decide between RWD and LR Y. Have you looked at LR and why RWD if you compare those two options of Y?

[@notinthemanual]

Firstly I don’t need AWD where I live and what I use the car for. I don’t need the extra range either. It’s just not necessary for around the city. LFP is a better battery from my point of view. Consistent power output, much safer and lower lifetime degradation. Being able to charge to 100% on a regular basis closes the range gap around the city too. If I lived somewhere remote or needed AWD for traction reasons then a LR would make more sense. Performance would be another reason to go with LR but this doesn’t do much for me. The RWD is good enough and is more powerful than most ICE SUVs. Lastly is price. It’s very hard to justify the extra spend for the reasons above.

[@fisherrr333]

@@notinthemanual it is just the way LR drives feels way better. Mind against the heart fight here

[@notinthemanual]

@@fisherrr333 It is more balanced but I don’t push it hard enough to worry. RWD is good enough for me. My Model 3 had too much power for a a RWD and got a little annoying in the wet when traction control would cut in so easily. The Y has less torque but wider tyres so it feels better than the 3. It really is a personal thing. Both cars are awesome.

[@Frank300390]

Hi Matt, I'm picking up my RWD model y in 2-3 weeks time. 😊😊 with one full charge, what's the range km can it run?

[@notinthemanual]

Congratulations. Range is very complex. There is no straight answer. It depends city or highway. City range is difficult to predict. If it’s over multiple days you will get much less range as you will have phantom drain to things like preconditioning the cabin and battery each drive. Let’s exclude that and imagine you drained your battery in one hit around the city. City you will average around 140Wh/km so 57kWh available from 100% to 0% means 407km. You can take around 70-80km off that figure if you do it over multiple days. On the freeway I average around 150Wh/km so 100% - 0% is 380km. In reality you never run the car to 0% so around the city if you run down to to 10 or 15% it will be around 300km roughly. Freeway you really only need enough range to get you to the next DC fast charger with a little head room. Aim to stop every 2-3hrs for a charge.

[@Vass122]

Can I ask what your trade in price was on the M3 was and final kms done at trade in? Happy wit it? Cheers

[@notinthemanual]

Hi Vass. I’ve made peace with my decision now so I’ll tell you. $40k. Not happy with it but easiest option for me right now. Final odometer was about 39000km. The price reduction killed the trade in value but it was give and take. The new car was almost 5k cheaper since I ordered it (including the $750 loyalty discount). Have you got your car yet?

[@Vass122]

@@notinthemanual Thanks for sharing - at the end of the day you can only compare to what the car sells for new today, not what you may have paid for it a few years back, so $40k used to an equivalent $61k before any rebates is respectable, particular on a dealership trade-in. And less hassle than private sale for a few grand more...

[@notinthemanual]

@@Vass122 They still got a bargain though 😜. I kept the car immaculate. My thoughts are they new about the accident it was in, even though the repair was very well done it would have affected the price. I felt this would have been a major issue selling it privately.

[@bcdownloads1]

Congrats on the new Y. Regarding USS I have a 2020 US built 3 with the sensors and recently they have been software disabled in favor of vision. Would be interested to know if its just US built cars that this affects for now.

[@notinthemanual]

Yes I’m confused why they are still being fitted outside the US. I was thinking there could be a requirement by law somewhere. If the are dollars to save Tesla wouldn’t be fitting them to cars unless they had to. Are you in Australia? How do you know they have been disabled? Does the displayed distance change?

[@bcdownloads1]

Yes sorry didn't mention in first message I'm from Melbourne. It now shows the wiggly lines around the car instead of just distance measurements. I have also tested by placing a box behind the car then put into reverse and the car "doesn't see" it@@notinthemanual

[@notinthemanual]

@@bcdownloads1 I’ll try that out. My Model 3 showed the wiggly lines for a long time. Never tested out the sensors with a box though. I’ll let you know. Thanks for the info.

[@TechnoMonkeyFarm]

I didn’t think the base model came with floor mats. So that’s good to know... When you do the powered frunk install you will note the Shanghai cars aren’t using a front gigacasting yet. Will be interesting if it adds or reduces weight..

[@notinthemanual]

This base model has everything the long range does except for the extra motor and of course range. I didn’t realise that about the front casting. It def has the rear one you can see it behind the wheel.

[@notinthemanual]

And I called them crappy mats in the video too 😯. I’m getting in and out of the car with work boots a lot of the time so these carpet mats don’t last for me. I wore through my M3 ones.

[@TechnoMonkeyFarm]

@@notinthemanual Let us know what you replace them with.. :)

[@aviationboy8]

make sure you install those mud flaps ASAP before you get the dreaded stone chips!

[@notinthemanual]

Yes they are going on asap. The hassle is these days I need to film everything I do 😩. I guess I can install them and just take them off again for the video….

[@notinthemanual]

@@SenseiSifuDaoshi Not sure yet. I just had ceramic coating done. I have mudflaps to go on but if I’m not happy with how they look PPF will be going on.

[@aviationboy8]

@@notinthemanual You can probably get away without the PPF. My parents had ceramic and nothing else, which resulted in severe stone chip damage (hundreds of micro chips on the rear side doors). Now they are installing mud flaps and PPF around the lower rear doors only. But that would have to be done before the ceramic is applied, I guess.

[@notinthemanual]

Hey mate. Thanks for that. Your comment got held for review for some reason. I didnt think there were filters set. Thanks for the advice. In Europe the Model Y comes with PPF installed from new in certain areas like the lower rear doors. I fitted mudflaps and will see if they grow on me. Otherwise Ill be fitting PPF.

[@austkdang]

Thanks for the informative video. Unlike you, I have all the accessories but without the car 🤣

[@notinthemanual]

Don’t worry I had plenty of accessories before I got the car too 😂. Trouble now is I can’t fit anything without making a video about it first…..Are you still waiting on paperwork??

[@austkdang]

@@notinthemanualwent through on Friday but late in the arvo already. Hopefully, we can do the settlement tomorrow and pick up on Wednesday 30th.

[@snip3d]

that's a right of passage.

[@greghudson9717]

@@notinthemanual Me too. I had HEAPS of stuff well before the car arrived (29 Sept 2022). Done 22,000km already including Melb-Cairns via the inland route bypassing Sydney, Gold Coast, Bris and Gympie. My missus had extreme range anxiety though ;-)

[@notinthemanual]

@@austkdang good luck 🤞

[@boraoku]

Congratulations on the Y :) I got mine in June and already did 2000km+ including a drive to NSW Alpines where the heated seating and wheel really became handy. Btw are you planning to get a ceramic coating for that nice paint? I have the same paint and wondering if I should either invest in protecting the paint or in FSD since it is still cheaper in Australia compared to elsewhere...

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks and congrats to you too. Is this your first Tesla? Yes, ceramic coating already done last week. I just went where I had it done last time. Tint-a-Car West Ryde. Had the windows tinted and coating done at the same time. It took me a while to get this video through edit so a lot has happened since I filmed this. I’ll be doing my first freeway trip with this car on Wednesday up to the Hunter. It already feels like a nice road trip car. I can’t give you advice on FSD except I’m not willing to spend the money right now. I’m just going to buy EAP once my free trial is up like I had in the Model 3. It’s then only a $5k to FSD package. Right now the only difference is traffic light and stop sign control which comes with its issues. It’s a personal thing and I don’t think it’s worth it right now especially as we have no timeframe for release here.

[@boraoku]

First Tesla indeed but I had the stock since 2016 :) it was just the ATO thing (see the other comment which I just posted) that pushed me to sell our 4 year old Xtrail and got the Model Y on a salary packaging lease. I got the EAP already with the lease budget, and very happy with its capabilities on the two long drives I did so far. I will probably get the coating soon too, but the FSD videos from US makes me want to get that instead since it seems like a bargain at this price, and might add up to the future resell price if they can get the technology deployed in the next 5 years locally in Australia. Cheers.

[@notinthemanual]

@@boraoku Yes that’s the million dollar question with Tesla….when. We will get time before they raise the price. I’ll just buy it at that point when I see some more evidence of it rolling out here. There would be a few regulatory hoops to jump through here I’d say before they let it loose.

[@greghudson9717]

I have an 18 inch space saver spare, and sadly it doesn't fit under the floor of my 2022 Model Y, RWD. 😞

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks for confirming that Greg. I don’t want to jinx it but I never had a flat in the M3 but a friend has a had several. All slow leaks so not really needing a spare though. It’s always in the back of my mind on long trips.

[@chrishyde1216]

Whereas the interior is the same width, as revealed by the rear boot liner, the MY exterior is actually 2.8 inches wider. The extra width of the MY is a compromise resulting from the extra height; Tesla increased the track and wheel width (presumably) to maintain cornering stability. In my view this makes it too wide for UK city streets, country lanes & parking spaces. It also adds weight, in addition to that resulting from the extra height, and aerodynamic drag which reduce efficiency and range. So these have to be weighed against the benefits of more comfortable seating positions, extra interior space and ride height.

[@notinthemanual]

The extra interior space and ride height win for me over all that. I found that is height and length for the interior. I have found that the efficiency around the city is not that different from the Model 3 even with the 20” wheels. Aerodynamics don’t come into play at lower speeds. It’s only long freeway journeys that matter. It’s a personal thing as to what matters to you the most. If you don’t have a large family then the Model 3 is the better choice for sure. The cost of the efficiency difference is negligible though. I have a freeway drive to do tomorrow so will see how efficiency compares to city driving. I haven’t had the larger size affect me here in Sydney but I imagine it’s something to consider in the UK and Europe.

[@chrishyde1216]

@@notinthemanual Yes, I agree it's a matter of choosing individual priorities. We mostly use our M3 for longer trips with just two of us and, as you point out, the interior space is not an issue. In fact, I'm impressed with how much we can pack in. Will be very interested in your findings from freeway driving, in particular how it compares with your M3. Given that acceleration is about 0.5 seconds (approx 10%) slower, I assume some impact albeit that's more about weight than aerodynamics.

[@notinthemanual]

@@chrishyde1216 If we didn’t have 3 kids the M3 would be more than enough. We did a recent road trip and some bags ended on laps but I was surprised with how much we squeezed in. I though I would have needed a roof box. Weight difference between my 3 and the Y is approx 200kg. I am estimating about 160Wh/km on the freeway at 110km/h opposed to 140Wh/km for the 3. I am hoping it doesn’t rain tomorrow so I can get a good test in. My old 3 had the 55kWh battery so I am guessing an almost even freeway range.

[@phoozle]

Did you say this Model Y RWD has more than than your Model 3?

[@notinthemanual]

No. My 2021 Model 3 SR+ 55kWh had a little bit more power but a lot more torque. 440Nm compared to 340Nm on my RWD MY. Current Model 3 RWD has the same battery and motor as the current Model Y RWD.

[@phoozle]

@@notinthemanual sorry typo. Didn’t specify I was asking about the range

[@notinthemanual]

@@phoozle haha. I took a guess and got it wrong. Yes this MY has more range than my 2021 Model 3. Bigger battery and not a lot more consumption. I’m talking around the city. Freeway speeds this MY will probably have slightly less range but not a big difference.

[@notinthemanual]

@@phoozle Current Model 3 RWD with 60kWh battery definitely has more range than 60kWh Model Y RWD. Just clarifying I was talking about my older Model 3 with 55kWh.

[@phoozle]

@@notinthemanual ahh I didn’t realise they were 55kwh originally! That’s why I was confused. I have Model 3 2023 RWD with LFP. I thought your Model 3 was also the same capacity! Interesting

[@Frank300390]

Yeah im picking from byd and tesla... both comfortable cars. And byd is a lot more cheaper. But it doesnt have as good as auto pilot in tesla. It cant follow the car in front if it comes to a complete stop for more than 3 secs.... looking for forward to your AP driving in Model Y video 🎉🎉🎉

[@notinthemanual]

Thanks Frank. Next video should be my AP comparison test. I’m about to start editing that but it won’t need much. Tesla AP has its faults but it is still one of the best driver assist systems out there. You need to put it into perspective sometimes. People expect too much from it in the city. It’s not FSD.

[@Frank300390]

@notinthemanual thank you! You play an important role for me to pick which EV right now. In AP, Does tesla have a very harsh break when it comes close to a stationary vehicle in front? I heard BYD will do harsh break so some people suggest to break manually. I hope tesla is better in this instance.

[@notinthemanual]

@@Frank300390 It is mostly smooth but can be a little harsh at times. It has improved a lot with the last couple of updates and that’s the difference, Tesla will continue to get better. I posted an AP video with my Model 3 recently and have an AP video in edit stage right now for the Model Y. I can tell you now the M3 & MY are similar with AP behaviour. It’s not a perfect system but it is slowly getting better.

[@notinthemanual]

@@Frank300390 Is suggest watching Bjorn Nyland’s videos on BYD Atto in Norway. He has some good commentary on its behaviour. Not sure he has much on its performance in traffic though.