208 - The Disappearance of Leichia Reilly

[@Eclipse1369]

Such a pleasure to listen to an excellent writer and orator. Thank you.

[@sunflowerz54]

Listen up!! If you go together. You leave together !! Have a plan. A meeting place to meet if you get separated. Have fun. But be smart !!

[@jerryjanik480]

My mom was her co-worker and devastated to this day what happened to her thank you for making this video never heard the Lake Erie Theory him and his brothers own property in Cattaraugus County.

[@knittielynnie]

Really impressed with the amount of research that you put into this podcast. You went with bodies of water, I went with forests near interstates because Rose was a State Trooper. It depends upon how far you're willing to drive when you're so sick that you can't go in to work. There are at least 8 state forests within a 2 hour drive southeast of West Seneca. He stashes her in his trunk overnight, goes back to the bar to establish an alibi, then he disposes of her in one of the state forests along I-86 while he was on sick leave. I hope she is eventually returned to her family.

[@AlanSpenceAlanGCCMSpence]

Steven, great job on covering this young lady's case! Her father is looking from just beyond our Vail and smiling that you are trying to find out her fate! As a Husband, Father, an Paw Paw! I'm proud of you Steven! She is only 3 years younger me! That's awful and sad, friend. OMG The fathers letter to her 10 years later is a true tear jerker! Fine Job Steven.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Still one of the best deep dive crime channels, it should have double the subscribers. your close to a 100 thousand and your silver plaque, you deserve it. 🙏

[@chelseagirl278]

I think the same thing. I swear he should at a MILLION!

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

It's because he's not exploitative in his coverage of these cases like many other content creators. Pacheco sticks to the facts, but doesn't glamorize.

[@industrialover]

The minute you said she was last seen with an officer that did it for me. They get away with murder, literally

[@allenantonio4389]

yup

[@kerryharding6463]

The cops know who did it & now her father knows who did it……I pray they find the proof they need to get justice !

[@annabellelee4535]

No, they don't know who did it.

[@douglaz74]

@@annabellelee4535 yes they do!

[@annabellelee4535]

@@douglaz74 No, they don't. They have theories which are meaningless without evidence. Two people leaving a bar, restaurant, etc, at the same time doesn't mean anything.

[@douglaz74]

@@annabellelee4535 yes they do. Stop being naive . There many cases in which police will protect fellow police in criminal cases. They are not super people. They know how to pull a crime because they are the law. I suggest you read about Sheri Rasmussen case in Los Angeles .

[@annabellelee4535]

@@douglaz74 so what evidence are you claiming exists? Where is this evidence? What connection other than someone seeing them walk out a nightclub door at the same time? Stop babbling and give us the evidence.

[@Tammylovemyink]

I remember this local case. I was 15 at the time. Thank you for doing an episode on Leichia

[@CarnivoreMomma]

Two videos in two days!! This week has gotten better, even if the story is sad.

[@alexhatfield4448]

These deep dives keep me going at work! Keep them coming Trace Evidence!

[@Jared_Wignall]

Thank you for the work you do man. It’s always top notch.

[@donnablack6280]

I'm interested that he returned to the club and went right to the bathroom (for a quick tidy-up and wash) and wasn't seen covered in blood, dirt, injuries or soaked from snow. I suspect it all happened in his vehicle, she was strangled, then he put her in the trunk and disposed of her body in the early hours. The vehicle is/was the key.

[@g00dkyd]

Or maybe he chained her up somewhere then went back after dropping his friend at his house. Remember he went back out again. He told his friend we was going to visit a girl

[@francesegan8344]

He did it I just know it

[@charlotteq8460]

Exactly what I think happened. Did the cops never get a warrant to search his car I wonder??

[@joasok3642]

Could be

[@marklittler784]

Before the era of common cctv, cellphones and DNA unfortunately.

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

Ah, yes, the 'good' old days, when if you were good at hiding bodies, there was no crime.

[@tangerinefizz11]

I like the way you set the scenes when you tell your stories.

[@trumpwon8064]

Are they accurate? He use to just post random photos during the videos

[@tangerinefizz11]

@@trumpwon8064 I don't usually look at the screen. I just listen.

[@trumpwon8064]

@@tangerinefizz11 ah, sorry I misunderstood you.

[@leelee6850]

The way you set the scene tells me you’re more than a podcast. You’re a true author.

[@susandhifaoui]

this just so resonates with me, as we are the same age and grew up in upstate NY. I too was in college at this time in Syracuse, and it seems like her upbringing, religion, large Irish-American family, and going out experiences were so much like my own.

[@shelbybranch7125]

The cop did it, but considering he’s a cop he knows how to get rid of a body .

[@EAHorror]

Aw man I hope whoever did this gets their comeuppance! That poor dad fought so hard to get justice. It breaks my heart knowing he passed not knowing what happened to his daughter.

[@Waheeda907]

They're together now❤

[@Jais-u7y]

My condolences to her family

[@SuperStrik9]

Excellent episode. Love this channel.

[@deathtrance217]

The fact that he lied about leaving with her shows he has something to hide. Today we can use cell phones to prove the where abouts of the perpetrator and the victim, though it usually is because of an oversight by the perpetrator. He story does have holes,but since he layered up,the detectives didn't get a chance to build on them. We can only hope someday she surfaces and her family will be able to put her to rest.

[@davideller1450]

So glad you are back with these podcasts. Always so well done.

[@northerngirl1637]

I leave so many channels simply because I can't stand the sound of someone's voice. What a relief to have you perfectly narrate this awful story.

[@marydeleon3756]

I am always overly excited to excited to see a new upload Steven. It's really childlike.

[@InnocentUntil718]

This is sad. Always amazes me people can hear these stories & still swear we're supposed to trust everyone who wears those uniforms blindly. It's disrespectful to their victims

[@tracybrannan8326]

I can promise you that there are a lot of bad people in law enforcement and I know this from a relationship I was in w one. As a matter of fact maybe more becuz they have a badge to protect them. Makes sense to me. Unfortunately though. May she RIP and her family finds some peace as well.

[@nozoto]

@@tracybrannan8326 Many good persons get into law enforcement because they are driven by a will to serve and protect. Among them, some even had old trauma and swore to stand in the way of the crime... Then, there are the rotten bastards. They have no calling to speak of, they are primarily motivated by power and control. They think of the job as an everyday bdsm fantasy come true or they compensate for being lousy cowards... I wish those were all booted out as soon as they're exposed. Rose must have been a real sack of sh*t for being fired so early on, because it usually takes a lot to even suspend or transfer a brown copper...

[@RepentfollowJesus]

So glad to see a new post !

[@carlys7598]

I took music lessons across the street from this bar, long after it closed. So sad that no one has been brought to justice.

[@jenniferhill7224]

glad to see you back, it's so sad people just seem to vanish in plain sight.

[@ItsKrma00]

Did you think Steve vanished? I know what you meant but it did make me smile!

[@kerryharding6463]

I would take a further look at Mr Rose !

[@addicted367]

He did it

[@melissasmith743]

Women go missing in upstate ny .Heidi Allen was working at a gas station and disappeared from that store in the 90s .And never been found. I lived in Oswego where she went missing from.Her parents still live in the same home just in case she finds her way back home ❤❤

[@g00dkyd]

Sounds like he took her somewhere, kept her there then Went back to the bar. Went back to her after he got home from the bar. then did something with her body the following day. There should have been evidence of her being in his vehicle

[@Dani92670]

38 years ago today, wow. There seems to be no shortage of disappearance channels these days and I watch a few from time to time. This is the first I have ever heard of this tragic case.

[@thomasclarke8220]

I worked with Dan Rose and his father Norbert at the Anderson Construction Co. in Cheektowaga, before Dan went to the State Trooper academy, circa 1980. His father told me at that time that Dan had a very short fuse and was ready to fight at the drop of a hat. I never had any problems with Dan, but he himself told me it was not uncommon for him to be in a fight for one reason of another. Dan also told me that he mentioned his propensity for getting into fights while being interviewed by the State Police prior to his appointment to the academy. He said that information was brushed aside as no problem.

[@bobcaygeon975]

His son, Derek Rose was beaten into a coma a the Blackthorn on St. Pattys Day, 2022. Like father like son, or was there some historical, generational beef for the beat down, for which no charges were filed?

[@marydeleon3756]

Too many red flags to count. Mr. Rose looks very suspicious to say the least. How do the rank and file of State Troopers cover for this disgusting man?

[@marklittler784]

Well done keeping cases in the limelight.

[@SunRabbit]

Dan Rose, Dan Rose, Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do, when they come for you?

[@annberlin5811]

My boyfriend disappeared for a few days and it was so distressing. I cant imagine a fathers pain.

[@GenXfrom75]

It's not suspicious that he GOT an attorney before questioning. It absolutely IS suspicious that he chose one of the highest profile, most successful defense attorneys in that area.... 🤔

[@GenXfrom75]

If you go out together, please ... *Leave together!* 💔

[@morganosborne9258]

I am perplexed by cases like this. Were there really no witnesses or just those who remain silent? I'm the latter instance, how can people know things that may help move the investigation forward and not speak up? I also can't help but wonder about the amount of guilt felt by the friends who left her behind that night. Thank you for bringing attention to this heartbreaking case. I hope they find her. Perhaps some trace of evidence will be present after all these years.

[@joasok3642]

There were a lot of witnesses,all confirmed she left with this cop.

[@whitedragoness23]

Witnesses saw them leave together, no one saw what actually happened when he drove away with her. The victim would be the only other one to know. It’s not like he would disclose his info to his best bud. He did quickly lawyer up so he didn’t say any thing incriminating. When they lawyer up asap that closes doors

[@marklittler784]

Maybe getting a cadaver dog would be a good start to finding someone.

[@beardedhussar1755]

Daniel Rose is an old man now. I doubt he will be able to run very quickly when chased.

[@harleyhowl4271]

that because nobody will chase him

[@liliareynero1557]

I subscribed I love ❤️ ur work

[@naders08]

Sad to say it seems as if she would have been safer leaving alone!!

[@williamrogers7974]

These are the cases that make me want to start a vigilante business. Go to the father and tell him , for a fee, i'll get this Rose, go to work on him, maybe head in a vice and record an admission. And location of body. When courts fail you....I won't ! Thats my business card. There is too many of these cases where you know who? But can't prove it when they lawyer up

[@laurabuehler]

As soon as you said, "Buffalo River," I felt in my gut that is where she was dumped. I don't know anything about this case other than what you presented. I had no previous knowledge of this case, nor do I know any of the participants, but I just have a very strong feeling that the Buffalo River is where she ended up.

[@addicted367]

Wouldn't be the first time a cop killed somebody

[@nozoto]

Not even worthy of being called a former cop. That failure of a man and brutish liar didn't even last 5 years in the forces. Pretty certain he murdered Reilly, he lawyered his ass up as soon as possible, knowing it'd get hot for him if he didn't shut it down quickly.

[@addicted367]

@@nozoto I agree with you 💯 percent.

[@rockstarofredondo]

It’s kinda part of the job though...

[@kristenwhitworth7991]

Wanna free pass to kill your fellow Americans, law enforcement is for you lol

[@joasok3642]

​@@nozotoAgreed.

[@gailkelly4651]

Well you just got a new subscriber. Thank you

[@ladysatana666-l-9]

Soooooo 💜💜💜 your stuff! All the best to u!

[@richardjones990]

Just because you did a good job of hiding the body doesn't mean she wasn't murdered.

[@musicstewart9744]

Wherever he is, Mr. Rose is not going to be having a very pleasant end of January. Yea, buddy a well subscribed crime cast did just profile that case again.

[@avalonpark1574]

So he just got way with murder. Someone somewhere he told and they are not saying anything.

[@finolaomurchu8217]

It's sad the father died without the burial. They are reunited now. But someone could still come forward.

[@marklittler784]

Well luckily nowadays drinking establishments tend to have cctv often it's a condition of a liquor license or for the bars insurance company.

[@Scorned405]

Her friend did not give her a ride home?? WTH

[@melissasmith743]

If you go out with friends you should leave with everyone .You should never leave alone behind because there are crazy people out there.Look at Natalie Holloway she thought she was safe by getting into a vehicle with men she met.

[@marklittler784]

If it quacks like a duck especially whilst under the influence...

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Always a pleasure 🙂

[@ThatOddChickenHippie]

The cop done did it, and that's why no justice will ever be seen for this. He knows too much about how to hide a body

[@gregorygermann5975]

Only steven could read information about a heinous crime and make it sound like a harlequin romance.

[@JamieArline]

I work with her sister. Her sister keeps a photo in her room and I see her photo every day. Her sister is the sweetest lady ever and her brother is the nicest man ever. I wish I could give them answers.

[@IamtheLunchlady]

It's very telling whoever gave her a ride never "came forward" either. So Rose supposedly wasnt with her, but no one else was either? Hmm she obviously didnt walk off the face of the earth.and omg her father's words at the end made me cry😥 how sad for her family. totally think she trusted the cop to give her a ride and he tried to take advantage of her then strangled her. I dont think any blood will be found bc of that. Hopefully his conscience will catch up with him.

[@jeremysmith4620]

I feel as if the profession of the one suspect was the only thing preventing an arrest in this case. If the last person seen with her was a brick mason, body or not, that brick mason would be in jail.

[@annabellelee4535]

What part of "no evidence" are you not comprehending?

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@annabellelee4535 What part of the American justice system are you not comprehending? It is common practice to arrest those suspected, even with zero evidence, to place pressure on them by disrupting their life, potentially making them loose their job, and effecting their standing in the community to make them appear guilty to their peers. Sometimes an undercover officer is placed in the same cell in an attempt to obtain an admission of guilt or gather further evidence. Sadly the American justice system doesn't give a damn if you aren't wealthy. You can be arrested and loose everything in the matter of a days if you can't afford a good attorney and have people in the outside to help. I am VERY aware of the lack of evidence, that was the entirety of the my purpose. Our system should not work that way, but it does for everyone but the wealthy and police. Laws simply don't apply to them. From drunk driving to murder, getting a police officer charged and held responsible can be next to impossible.

[@annabellelee4535]

@@jeremysmith4620 LOL, you just told the world you don't know how the US criminal justice system works. You can't arrest someone without evidence, you can't even force them to talk to the police. Where did you get the idea that the police can just snatch you up off the sidewalk and arrest you?? That's not how it works.

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@annabellelee4535 I have lived, experienced, and worked in the US justice system. I am sorry to inform you, but people get arrested more often without evidence than with and then while they languish in jail a case is built unless they can afford the rigged cash bail system. To think that only those only with evidence against them are arrested is utterly naive and shows no factual knowledge about how the justice system actually works in the US. Police routinely "force," or more properly coerce, individuals to speak to them through a mixture of lies, promises, and manipulation. Once you are in custody, which once again they don't need a shred of evidence to place you in, use that setting and the fear of the situation to lie and cajole their way into trying to manufacture evidence of a crime. Police DO in fact just snatch people right up off the sidewalk and arrest them. Where did you learn about the realities of the police and justice system in the US, a comic book from the 1950's? There are laws defending the right of the police to lie to those in custody, there or precedents that allow arrest with nothing more than a vague feeling being enough for an arrest in most jurisdictions in the nation. The worst part about this is attitudes like yours make these systemic issues that much harder to correct. To believe that anyone who is arrested must have evidence against them and therefore somehow "worthy" of arrest is utterly ludicrous and reveals the understanding of a child or someone with their head so far in the sand it must be hard to breathe. Please, do better. Educate yourself. Try to understand what many Americans face because if you believe that this sort of thing couldn't happen to you or someone you care for you may find yourself very mistaken later in life. It would be best to know how the system really works now, so that if you ever do have to interact with it that you know your rights.

[@annabellelee4535]

@@jeremysmith4620 Only if a judge can be tricked into issuing an arrest warrant. There have been too many lawsuits over false arrests to keep doing that! If you studied US law, you would know that fact.

[@judymorgan289]

Before you go out a game plan must always be made ! you stay together as a group if you go to rest rooms go 2 together if gone too long have bathroom checked call police asap. carry something that you can defend yourself with have it in your hand walking out and into any place and to bathroom these are things every woman should do it can save your life

[@CL-we8tn]

Hate it when it ends like this, you know who killed her but your and xy away from proving it. And a murderer with a conscience is..... Scarce.

[@marklittler784]

Maybe there's advantages as well as disadvantages to standing out in a crowd if you wear something that makes you stand out like a hat or a yellow garment.

[@Atalanta3204]

Why did they not get a search warrant and search his car and his house?

[@s.williamc.]

Rest In Peace sweet angel.

[@Scorned405]

Rose took the next day off to get rid of the body. I mean he has to be involved. This is before DNA and forensics

[@Col92015]

Got proof?

[@EricSmiles]

It would be nice if your narrations matched your slide shows.

[@Jais-u7y]

No it was more than a brief encountervNO

[@janetmiller2980]

Some friend, leaving her to find her own ride 😢

[@Somegirl811]

Rose should have been compelled to name blonde Kathy and the woman who wasn't home so they could verify his stories.

[@houseadams4841]

Eye witnesses are notorious for incorrect identifications…. Especially once others know there is a person of interest or even just someone the police are asking about. A mix of genuinely wanting to help with the case, wanting to be involved with a police investigation, playing “hero”, etc…. I’m not saying that’s the case… But it doesn’t seem like there is any other evidence pointing to Officer Rose. Additionally…. As a police officer, he would know exactly how they can treat a suspect / PoI… Using any little nuance of a conversation to arrest them.. Many times wrongfully. If he really had nothing to do with it… He probably knew he had to protect himself first and foremost or take a chance of ending up in prison for the rest of his life.. Again… I have no idea. Just saying these situations are always more nuanced then many want to believe or understand…

[@pebkit6763]

If Daniel Rose did it, he was only gone an hour. How hard can it be to find what he did to Leisha? She can't be too far!

[@Jais-u7y]

Yup yes he did it he knew her / the state cops know he did it he must have been annoyed that she was still there !

[@Col92015]

Nothing good is found at a bar.

[@bostonsandatot4948]

Blue wall of silence. ☕🐸

[@franciscofernandez5034]

That guy Rose seems he knew way more than he claimed, however it is still conjectures since there is no evidence. However there’s always what if… but again, no proof .

[@ginexkasachstan]

Why is there no description what car the trooper drove? Maybe someone saw that car at a strange place so late at night. Maybe its the side he hid her. Maybe someone knows what car he had, its interesting for more witnessess to come forward

[@charliekezza]

He had a sleepover, as an adult, with a cop on the very night she vanishes....... convenient

[@donnablaszczak-graham1905]

Someone needs to take today's technology and help solve this!

[@cyndit9208]

I have no doubt the former police trooper did something. He probably had her in the trunk and got rid of her when he went to see his “friend” who was not home. It is alway the most evil of people who prey on the best of humanity. With all of the eyewitnesses who saw him leave with her should have at least been able to get warrants to test his car, apartment, and clothing. At least to get DNA to be used years later if needed. There had to be enough probable cause to have gotten that much. What a horrible thing to have happened to her. May her killers life be more miserable day after day until he comes clean. It’s no less than he deserves.

[@SisterWomen]

That mysterious poster really stands out. Someone with access to that board wanted to direct the attention of authorities on him. Seems like perhaps his roommate was more suspicious than he admitted. With two feet of snow, it creates a situation where the killer gets dirty disposing of the body. He's wet or he's muddy and so his his car. Nothing like that seems to have been observed and the roommate was in his vehicle that night after the disappearance. Perhaps he knew of a location from his family or youth, on private property. Or maybe your observation about Canada is the best guess. Perhaps after dropping his roommate off, he retrieved her body and took it into Canada where it was never linked to a missing person case in the USA.

[@annabellelee4535]

It was the family who posted it.

[@neuralmute]

@@annabellelee4535 What is your source of this information?

[@annabellelee4535]

@@neuralmute Common sense.

[@annabellelee4535]

@@CalmJoy-7 Prove it, Karen.

[@tessaducek5601]

I don't know why people think a murderer or knowledge of a murder eats them up inside. While a small handful might feel a twinge of remorse. Murderers would not be so ruthless if they had a conscience to begin with. How many have we seen get arrested decades later due to DNA and their attitude is annoyance that police were still working the case! They go on to live a full life getting married and raising a family. Eating them up inside? Hardly. When we went out as two or more in the 70s 80s.. We moved as a group and left as a group.. If one went to dance we kept tabs on her or she would pop back with her drink to let everyone know who she is dancing with. We never stepped outside with anybody. I often think a body can be hidden anywhere and it may one day be found. But there are also those who make sure it won't be . It is a sobbering thought .

[@latashahumphrey769]

I watch all the time

[@marklittler784]

More than one psychic in this world

[@Jais-u7y]

Hes dead thebstate cop but he did it

[@rebeccagable9629]

We all know what happened.

[@bobcaygeon975]

Theres an interesting 1987 Buffalo News story about Buffalo Bill Jim Kelly and the Pierce Arrow Restaurant and a civil lawsuit from a young woman.

[@aleeburitz7310]

Thank you for all your videos and time. I was wondering if maybe you could cover more stories on men that have disappeared? There's more of a mystery. I don't mean anything bad by the following. With all do respect. When it comes to woman and children. We pretty much know the outcome. The reason why they were abducted. Ty!

[@TMMReznor]

Sadly, it says a lot about society and humanity in general that there seem to be so many more of these cases where the victim is female.

[@aleeburitz7310]

@@TMMReznor True! And unfortunately we almost always know the outcome when it's about a woman or child. 😔

[@bobcaygeon975]

In 2022 off duty Buffalo Fireman Derek Rose was beaten into a coma at the Blackthorn Bar by a co-worker. He is the son of the Rose in this story.

[@FknNefFy]

I hope they checked where the road goes over or near the river

[@yoggsaron8867]

Seems like some well wishers in the delartment. Once patrick hit 75 at that stage you just let one of them (like the well wishers who created the flyer) slip you the addy, and boom yiu show up on Daniel's fornt door and tell him say helloe to my little friend

[@sineadcoppinger7998]

Was the car ever tested or was he asked to take a lie detector?

[@Jais-u7y]

It still is a bad area at nite very dark there

[@Erin-cw4ct]

First on my favorite channel.

[@6Haunted-Days]

I’m so lost. Why does Charley Project, Doe Network….Reddit,…video…say she was last seen at a all night RESTAURANT at 3am? Now you say it’s a nightclub? What nightclub is open until 4am when when the trooper returned and then left with the friend the trooper had left back at the restaurant. 🤷🏼‍♀️😣 you’re the only one who’s stating it’s a nightclub It depends on the state and whatnot but most bars especially back in the 80s closed at 2.30a ….yet somehow this one was open at 4a still? Anyways….don’t kno what to think. Hell it even says RESTAURANT on the flyer thing you included in the video! But you keep saying BAR. Why?