22 Shorts, CB Long, Subsonic, and Supersonic [NEW Savage REVEL]

Testing a bunch of different ammo in the Savage REVEL

[@NC-xk1eg]

Love 'em all but the beloved .22 never gets old! Great video. 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@larrysmith8728]

Who_tee , my first rifle was my dad's 22 single shot Springfield. And back then all I could afford was the 22 shorts but it was a single shot so it didn't matter, I got rabbits with it. I was a long time ago I got that rifle when I was 11 years old. Now I'm 76 . I really enjoy Your videos. God bless you and your family.❤ Larry Smith from Oklahoma. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸;⁠-⁠)

[@Odd_Interaction]

I still have an old High Standard my grandfather gave me that only shoots .22shorts. Love the old guns with a bit of family history.

[@64samsky]

I still have the single shot Cooey in 22 that I got when I was 10. I'm now 60.

[@Odd_Interaction]

@@64samsky my Cooey is a bolt action and a single shot 12 gauge. Not sure how they made it to Alabama.

[@NC-xk1eg]

@@larrysmith8728 Something VERY special about a single shot bolt- action .22 isn't there?🎯

[@NC-xk1eg]

@@Odd_Interaction Agreed...& especially High Standards. 👍

[@benjaminbradley3009]

True, Shorts are hard to find. I've seen a few at some old gun shops in my area. Anywho, Great video. Keep em comin

[@filipeorr7821]

Funny story: I work in the oilfield here in Alberta and my shift is 3-6 weeks on, one week off. Thanks to you, in my last set of days offI bought a CVA Scout in 45-70 (last day off). I just returned home and this weekend I was going to Public land to try it for the first time. I wear prescription glasses, so I can't share mine. My dad did not have safety glasses, so I stopped at Home Depot and bought him Milwaukee safety glasses! Unfortunatelly when we arrived at the place we usually shoot, there were signs all over that as of last month there is a temporary ban on firearms use there and we wasted the trip. I had go show this video to my dad, laughing about the coincidence of you wearing the Milwaukee glasses! Well, I can't wait to try both, my 7mm Rem Mag and the 45-70.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That is hilarious

[@BullseyeBenR]

I love 22LR and 22magnum! Highly underrated

[@12cm32]

Got a revolver does both kinds and love it...

[@BullseyeBenR]

@@12cm32 heck yeah my heritage rough rider came with both cylinders and is a 9shot. Also got the M&P22MAGNUM. have both on my channel

[@joelruder2857]

My Henry H001 eats up .22 shorts all day long. Great video!

[@takishaslife1557]

Absolutely never gets old with 22 s great fun ,had many good memories hunting and plinking with them as a young fellow

[@takishaslife1557]

This is my daughters account don't have an account with the tube ,52 now started hunting at about 12 in Australia before gun laws went crazy .

[@liability69]

I bought a Henry lever action .22, and when I tried it out, the action was so bad that I couldn't cycle LR rounds! I took it back to the dealer and they sent it back to Henry. A few weeks later the rifle came back, and the action worked perfectly. Super smooth even with shorts! In Oregon maybe because of proximity to CCI/Speer Operations in Idaho, we can often readily get varieties of CCI shorts. Contact Bi-Mart our employee owned Northwest department store- they always have the lowest prices on ammo.

[@Plumcraziness]

I guess that's the long and short of it. 😉

[@danielhuff1397]

😂

[@TeamJesusOutdoors]

😅

[@dnktng4722]

CCI 22 CB shorts in a lever gun.... FUN

[@timhood6970]

Being a devoted Savage lover, I will definitely have one of these!

[@vintagetintrader1062]

When I picked up a secondhand browning BL22 stainless 6 months ago, was hesitant about running shorts, but never had one feeding issue with it. Touch wood. I’ve mixed up CCI shorts 710fps, CCI long 710fps, CCI standards in the tube and a huge mix of other supersonic LR. Best thing is can fit 23 shorts on the magazine but for the price, the CCI LR 710fps are cheaper than the shorts for quiet shooting. I use it for around the farm where I don’t want to hear the supersonic rifle crack.

[@brianc3100]

I remember during the coof watching you do a live stream after KZbin either pulled your video or hit you with a strike. I think I was the only person in the live stream at the time. I was new to KZbin, didn't really know how it worked and you were down man. I could feel your pain through my TV but had no idea how to comment to let you know that you were going to be alright. It's great to see you doing what you love. Truly, I mean that. Man I thought you were gonna give up or KZbin was going to beat you. I'm enjoying watching all of the videos that I've missed. Congratulations on the buck! Thank you for sharing your journey with us. You're documenting just about every caliber out there on guns that almost any man can afford. Good stuff man

[@chrishelms1967]

My man......sweep up that dang floor 😂😂😂

[@confuseddazed4729]

Even if I wanted a savage revel my horrible state of Washington has them restricted due to tube capacity. Can’t wait for the day we get our rights back😂 looks like a fun rifle!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yikes

[@christophernemeth421]

An assault lever rifle 😂

[@goldeneaglearbor614]

The law specifically says it doesn't apply to lever action rifles or .22 cal tubular magazines. Don't get me wrong it's a horrendous overstep of our rights and needs to go but you can still buy any lever gun in washington 👍

[@aaronsteele7585]

​@@goldeneaglearbor614I live in vancouver wa and have direct contact with William @ washingtongun law YT. You are 100% correct, as much as it pains me to say that we have these rediculous restrictions!

[@filipeorr7821]

Try Canada. The second ammendment does not apply here. Justin Trudeau banned the 50 BMGs due to all the criminals carrying them around to rob and murder people right and left... and to prevent mass shootings!

[@williamcrane8236]

Short subsonic are ball/round nose. Short high power are jacketed hollow points. Like I always say running these in my 1906, it's quieter then my moderated 22 Gammo Pellet rifle.

[@robertwies6806]

Another great video. I always enjoy watching.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

👍👍💥💥💥

[@craigsellier5973]

WhoTeeWho just to let this be on here. All lever action rifle's with all the mechanics in them all need a little breaking in. It may do good later on after being shot a lit with 22 long rifle ammo. That rifle is supposed to shoot shorts.

[@henryslater8029]

Appreciate your taking the time to test out the revel. I’m a 22 mag. fan and am waiting for the revel 22 magnum to be released thinking it will be a hoot for all things the 22 magnum is used for. For 22 l r I’ll stick with either the my 10/22 or my 39 A Golden Mountie. Being the Revel is new, I want confidence in it prior to purchase. So far you’ve shown the 22 l r to be reliable. I hope the magnums are as reliable. As always, I appreciate your honesty in your evaluation. Thanks for your content and congratulations on your buck and effort to recover it as not everyone would go to such efforts as you did.

[@joelgrimes7591]

I had a Sears .22 lever action rifle that would feed shorts, longs and long rifle.

[@raymillsap8613]

I used to have the same rifle. Regret selling it

[@MichaelRoss-iq4gr]

Your show is very cool to watch and you are funny, and I like the educational that you give thanks

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I appreciate you watching

[@oldgandy5355]

Insert joke about misplacing my ammo, also known as "losing my shorts". Well, maybe not. I used to shoot short, long, and long rifle in a couple of different guns, but the prices changed, and in my area of the country, long rifle became quite a bit less expensive than the other two. Last time I checked, shorts were a dollar a box more than long rifle. Keep on shootin' Adam. Now you're down in my caliber!

[@williamsavageii9569]

This is about to be a reeeally fun video! YEEHAW! But I forgot to clean up my range from about 12 years ago, and I just dumped the only 5, 22 shorts a had! That was ridiculous! I guess I'll find them next year, I reckon!

[@kencoffman7145]

22 short will make you consider whether a 200 dollar tax stamp is worth it

[@3putter3]

Everyone loves .22

[@Josh-dp4iv]

Henry has no problem shooting any .22 ammo.. still nice to see that savage is coming back with an old school rifle..

[@slimquinn5692]

You Definetly went through the test, that just goes to show how important what people want to know is to you. 👍

[@WHOTEEWHO]

🙏🙏🙏 I read every comment. I appreciate you watching

[@the_grumpy_trucker]

Just look on the side of the barrel. If its meant to run shorts it will say: short, long, long rifle. With that being said, savages website lists it as a 22 LR(long rifle) lever action rifle which implies it is not chambered to run 22 long or 22 short.

[@frankbrowning328]

All 22's are fun. Adding capacity with the little shorts and longs adds to the fun. Many years ago I used the 22CB Longs for pest control in the yard. They were exceptionally quiet and were plenty accurate for pesting inside 30 yards. Today we have even better quiet rounds in 22LR but very few are as quiet as the old 22CB Long rounds. I may buy some 22 CB longs again and compare them to the CCI Quiet rounds and other subsonic rounds I have. The most quiet I fired in the past were the old (30 + years ago) Remington CB's which Remington call its 22 Long CBees

[@roberthendricks1826]

The old marlin I have feeds everything from the cb caps to lr just fine

[@VitalArms]

That looks like a pretty cool rifle. Bummer it doesn’t feed shorts. My Henry H001T is marked .22S/L/LR and is so fun to plink with .22 short. It’s quieter than most airguns. Luckily at my local store in Burbank (Los Angeles) they’re stocked up with .22 short and long which I don’t ever see at other stores. Major props to burbanks ammo n guns. Best gun store around and unbeatable prices especially considering we have a 21% tax on guns and ammo in CA

[@sdflyer1725]

I have a Henry H001 with Hy Vis sights added, to me the new Savage Revell is very similar, (also identical) and looks like a fun lever action .22, like my Henry! I have run though shorts (22 rounds), long (17 rounds) and long range ammo (15 rounds), including both sub and supersonic with no issues which resulted in a ton of fun. New to your channel and really enjoy your videos.

[@jeffwilson1217]

Grew up with my father's Remington 550-1 semiautomatic that had a floating chamber. You could stagger load short and long rifle in the tube! Wish I had that one back!

[@liability69]

When .22 rimfire ammo Fails to Fire, usually you can rotate the round 90 degrees, re-chamber and it fires the second time. Reason being that old primer often curls away from the rim. But not all the way around.

[@randyhood527]

That interesting. My Remington model 39A (mid 1950's) runs CB shorts great. SO MUCH FUN!!! I can clap my hands louder.

[@jefferyjackson6935]

Always a great video! I haven’t seen on in my area yet. Maybe Ruger/Marlin will see that Savage made a lever action rimfire!

[@robjohns5569]

I use my Rem field master pump for yard pests ! It holds 23 shorts works great ! Very little sound!

[@tracyclaystowell6431]

I remember my Dad telling me that they shot shorts all the time. hunting rats and tin cans at the local dump and for grouse. Said it was 5 cents a box for shorts and 7 for longs. He could not remember what the lr cost but they were more again, lol.. Clay

[@Snarlacc]

Shooting .22short in .22lr rifles fouls the chamber and the rifle might not like to return to lr without a deep cleaning of the chamber. According to someone I talked to recently the fouling around the chamber head is hard to get out. The result being feeding and accuracy problems and the cases sticking/hard extraction. Some rifles are marked .22lr, long and short, those will run all but you still have the fouling issue. BTW if you really want a silent .22lr load look for "Zimmer" or "Z" ammo. They shoot a 30gr bullet at ~50J, those are more silent than a spring powered air rifle.

[@henryfriesen8614]

I started laughing, when you started to point the barrel down. 😂

[@erinschlameus3628]

I have an old Winchester automatic 22 LR then my dad got me when I was 8 years old. It was chambered for the long & long rifle but one day on a whim I tried loading it with some shorts. Of course there is no way it was going to cycle the bolt automatically. But I was able to reach up easily enough and worked a little charging lever. Somewhat similar to a straight pull bolt action kinda. So I was a bit surprised when you're lever action did not like em.

[@bobbytoole318]

I liked “ let’s see what happens “. Scope it and see how accurate it is.

[@darrenaurand7138]

Tube fed 22 that doesn't feed shorts....no thanks.... probably doesn't mean anything to a lot of folks, but yet another reason I love my vintage firearms

[@me2bfc]

I keep a supply of CB Longs, Quiets, and Shorts for my Henry rifle and Heritage revolver. CB Longs seem to shoot better than the CB Shorts but the other Short loads all shoot about the same.

[@maximpestsolutions3696]

Thanks for the Video Adam 👌. I'm going to have to get a Revel for the Collection...for sure 👍! (Kinda sucks it didn't accept the 'shorts' though 🥺) Cheers 🙏✝️🇨🇦

[@donovankishbaugh460]

I love this channel. Do have a question I just picked up a savage 110 ultralight in 300wsm. What ammo would you recommend for deer and black bear. Factory only.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

That is a good one. I have many videos up on 300wsm if you search "whoteewho 300wsm." They aren't cheap but I have had great luck with Remington 180gr Scirocco. Also norma bondstrike.

[@NC-xk1eg]

Doesn't like shorts. I wonder what's stamped on the barrel?

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

Yeah, a good many levers can handle shorts just fine, I'm wondering about this, too...

[@charlesmccoy5857]

@@JohnPublic-dk7zd Yep, my Winchester 9422 shoots everything from CCI CB Caps to the Long Rifle, no problems.

[@pauldahlhoff9316]

Academy sports has been having in stock in the store 22 CB shorts and standard 22 shorts!

[@Doc-Holliday1776]

Fun little gun. Rock on man..

[@martinm3474]

CB Long? I know and own the CB Shorts. CBs were made of carnivals and basement shooting, about 450 fps or there abouts.

[@robertfandel9442]

Long rifle, Long, short, cb, I've never bought longs. No reason to anymore anyway with all the subsonic LR now days. Advantage of shorts they are quite and the tube holds a bunch.

[@terrell48]

I have never had a bolt action, pump or lever action with a tube magazine that would not feed and shoot 22 shorts or longs and LR’s, is the rifle marked 22 S,L,LR? If so no doubt but if not marked and will feed them then no issue . The 22 short high velocity are great rabbit and squirrel ammo, I am 76 yrs old been shooting shorts in my guns since I was 10 yrs old as I could buy them for less than Longs or L Rifles

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Just marked 22lr

[@googies12a]

Love the videos, keep it coming. Will it run a 22 flobert? All the best from Ireland ☘️

[@conawayjb]

my henry is marked short, long, and long rifle right on the barrel so that's a good option if you want to shoot shorts.

[@jackadkisson7329]

Good day. I enjoy your videos, thanks for your efforts. What does it say on the barrel regarding ammo?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

22lr

[@ronladuke7235]

60 years ago when I was kid I got some 22 shorts for my single shot 22 rimfire and the accuracy was terrible lol so I think that was the last time I tried them.

[@jerryheidlebaugh2426]

I really enjoy watching your channel, here is one for you in the group tests. see if you can find a remington model 788 in 6mm remington for a group test 75 grain hollow point, I have an old one and it groups three shots touching at 100 yards would be interested in seeing you test it, thanks

[@JP-yf1rs]

My old marlin 39A runs shorts to long rifle well. Also I’ve had good luck finding the cci shorts at Walmart.

[@r1w3d]

I enjoy .22 short honestly. I inherited a Saturday night chambered in it and its stupid reliable 🤣 weirdly i come across more .22 short than i do magnum here in North Florida, seems like its everywhere from Curry Thomas Hardware, to walmart, and every sports shop. CCI, Aguila, Armscore, are the most abundant around here and the CCI is typically .22 short CB which from a rifle is literally more quiet than any suppressed weapon ive fired 🤣 I like that i can have 500 rounds just inside a small pellet rifle ammo tin that fits in my pocket. I wish .22 Mag was as prevalent here as .22 short or lr because its just one of my favorite all around cartridges because im getting basically .22lr rifle performance from a shorter barrel and when i throw it in a rifle i get better performance. People complain its expensive but its cheaper than other magnums 🤣🤣

[@joeltowle2737]

The 22 long uses a 29gr bullet with the lr case. 29gr bullet whether Subsonic or High Velocity, I think CCI is the only Company making the 22 long on America now. I have a box of 50 from the early 1990's in 22 long from Federal, I paid $1.39 for them. CCI makes 22 Shorts too.

[@jeffroudebush5679]

CB=cap&ball /primer&bullet.

[@joeltowle2737]

@@jeffroudebush5679 CCI also makes High Velocity of both.

[@DonutVIP]

Cci hp and segmented hp for me, 36 grain for the hp and 40 grain for the segmented, both run pretty good in my marlin model 60, also have some dirty remington bulk, and 2 box of 100 stinger, I'm all for CCI lol

[@matthewm7666]

When im just plinking and i get a dud with a 22 , i rotate it so the hammer hits a different spot on the rim. That works sometimes

[@bartsimpson6767]

Never seen the Remington sub sonics around here. CCI are available though...

[@MichaelJones-tk4xt]

The side of the barrel will usually have the cartridges it accepts stamped on it.

[@bobrow64]

I was just wondering if you had a fuller tube, it would put enough pressure to feed the shorts.

[@jonathanrapp4464]

Dang you'll be lucky to find any . You should buy a lotto ticket.😂😂

[@lamatrisefontain98]

I can understand the concern that a semi-automatic might not feed all .22 ammo but every .22 rifle I own, lever, pump and bolt magazine or tube feeds anything I give it or it gets sold. I have a Browning take-down .22 semi auto that loves shorts.

[@bobhamilton7472]

There they are!😊

[@eddiewest8477]

I'd hate to think if N.C. told us hillbillies we couldn't have a rifle 😂 they would be rebel flags from Asheville to Raleigh, and a BUNCH OF ROWDY HILLBILLIES! 💯🫡🇺🇸💪

[@jmc041071]

Looks like there is enough barrel, after the front sight, to get it threaded maybe. I want one anyway!

[@sonnygay3597]

Thanks for the video Adam . That is one cool little plinker , No crying for me over the shorts . Not my cup of tea anyway. Keep on slinging.

[@slowguy66]

Ever thought about covering some different 410 loads?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Have in the past. Will do more

[@Michael_X313]

When I do get duds that have been struck and not gone off, I always try firing them a 2nd time with the rim of the round reoriented so that firing pin will strike the other side. So far I am able to get about 40% of duds to actually fire but it seems like most primers just completely break away from the rim face.

[@jesspryce5025]

Shorts in a tube feed are a pain., the feed system wants to feed 2 at a time , so I have found . Keep up the videos. Who Tee Who 😂

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@e.l.robbins5614]

Have you got more videos on the 280 AI Weatherby 307 coming up?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes. Should be next week

[@FuzeTheWholeTeam]

there's a smooth boor sleeve that the casing slides into where the projectile meets the rifling. be careful with shorts as you could foul that sleeve and cause wonky patterns going back to the longs I'm pretty sure. aside from that, yes you could throw a .22 short in there cause its still a .22 chamber but if you throw a long in a barrel that is meant for shorts, you get over expansion of the casing and sometimes blow outs where it splits the casing or blows the back off the casing depending the chamber setup.

[@johnwashingtoncountyor4954]

Haven't seen this model at my local shop. Is it marked/stamped 22lr only anywhere on the barrel?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Yes 22lr

[@jabknives]

We have PLENTY of shorts

[@charlesbuchanan9203]

Have you seen or heard about the new.21 sharp l watch video earlier 1800 ft per second in Winchester ammo with a Savage Mark II gun

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Heard of it

[@bestestusername]

Whotee's got a new toy so we all get 22lr videos for a few weeks😉. I don't mind that.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Thanks for watching

[@johnnythompson1055]

I like that new savage rebel

[@scottsymonds6717]

All lever actions I know of have always handled shorts just fine. It appears the ammo is bad. I buy shorts all the time for my lever actions, as well as an old winchester model 74 semi-auto. 22 that only shoots shorts. Just have to look for them.

[@Michael_X313]

I recently learned that cci makes a few different versions of their quiet rounds. Some are ~700 fps whereas the others are 800+fps. They claim on the box that they should cycle compared to the regular ones but...idk.

[@Michael_X313]

Lol @10:20. I like your pile of brass 😄. That was cool to see bro.

[@umbertoharo3841]

Sweet level action 👍

[@duckbrian7973]

Hey big guy, on the barrel should be stamped of acceptable size.22 It’s been like that for 100 years. I have a gun that’s LR one that’s LR &long and one that’s shorts, long & LR. Then another one that’s all .22 ammo plus magnum. If I knew how to send you a picture of the barrel stamp I’d do it.

[@erikball7215]

Are you going to put a rail on top and see what it can do with a scope of red dot on?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Probably

[@joshmiller1092]

My brother That is a lot of empty brass. Love you brother

[@jacobihofer574]

Great vid ...are u gonna slap on some glass and see how she groups ?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hope so

[@carlitosantiago4893]

My Henry 22 H001 says it will run 22LR, 22 long and 22 short. This Savage looks identical to the H001 so I would assume it run all you tried. My Henry can hold 15 rounds of 22LR in the tube vs the Savage you have.

[@miker9043]

It was feeding shorts when you had the push rod out of the tube . CB longs are way cooler than shorts ! they work great on Squirrels at short range !

[@SAMSUN21]

That would make a great CHRISTMAS gift for me 😜

[@Chris_Garman]

I see shorts as fully obsolete now as equivalent loadings are available in LR now. Shorts are the more expensive option now too.

[@frankiemabry1726]

i think henry makes one that will shoot the 22 magnum lr sub-sonic an the cb shorts to.

[@webb-cast1030]

CCI has cb and hv shorts available on their site right now.

[@paulbuckner9820]

as quiet as those CB longs were, I wouldn't bother with the Shorts. Gotta get me some of those.

[@scottwinkle5503]

You should mount a scope and accuracy test it with several different loads.

[@WHOTEEWHO]

I agree

[@IRishbuck58]

Nice 👍 great review

[@natex8099]

An honest question I really want to know. How did you speed up the vid and not sound like a chipmunk?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Only sped it up a little bit

[@natex8099]

@@WHOTEEWHO Thanks never seen or heard that

[@triplehelper6944]

Are u gunna put a scope on it and accuracy test it?

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Hopefully

[@BrianPhetteplace]

That looks like a fun gun🎉

[@matt21945]

with the sub sonics I thought you were trying to play jingle bells

[@charlesmorgan1879]

I watched premier but had no chat or comment button to click...reboot phone and had to dig a little to find this video but gotter done !

[@DaveL9170]

Does it come THREADED 1/2x28???

[@WHOTEEWHO]

No

[@DaveL9170]

@@WHOTEEWHO then they will Not get my money

[@AM-hs4bz]

@@DaveL9170agreed, it’s 2024 it should come with thread and picatinny rail