3 Anchor-Point Tips for when using a Thumb Release!

[@seanfernandes2062]

I switched over to a thumb this year and love it. I watched a lot of John Dudley videos to avoid thumb punching the release. I’m no pro archer by any stretch, but if you relax your hand a little bit so you’re holding the release with the middle knuckles of your fingers it allows you to keep the back of your hand flat and the anchor point is more repeatable. Then resting my thumb on the trigger and either slowly putting pressure on my pinkey to rotate the release, or relaxing my fingers so the button comes to my thumb to execute the shot seems to minimize me slamming the trigger. Just food for thought, but I love the content!

[@MuleyFreak]

Great tip, Sean. Erik is definitely still getting used to the thumb barrel.

[@zachheindl8619]

Speaking of comfort.....the sky draws made me uncomfortable... If you cant draw back on the weight man, lower it.

[@kylehardin936]

The "draw length is too long" comments are likely due to observing the amount of string and arrow on the face. I would agree. When you look at where the string hits the face, where the nock is, where the fletching makes contact, etc., you see a clear departure in all instruction regarding draw length.

[@MuleyFreak]

_Thanks for the feedback, Kyle. We will be sure to pass it on to Erik. ;)_

[@adawg2282]

Also agree, the draw length is about .5 inches too long. Making face contact with the fletching and where the d loop is sitting far back, could cause torque

[@krisaunedi4920]

Erik cool vlog. Good information 👍that has been given here. Just one thing that I wanted to point out to you is that when you draw your bow you shouldn't be aiming up in the air when drawing because then that means that you are pulling too much weight and you should turn it down until you can pull more. You should be drawing your bow straight at the target. Keep the vlogs coming buddy!!!

[@MuleyFreak]

Thanks for the feedback, Kris. I appreciate it. God speed!

[@chrisochoa1222]

Kyle is too nice to say brother but your at least 1/2" long on draw length. Your shooting ok on flat ground but the moment your introduce angles your going to struggle. The bow feels ok as your using one of, if not the shortest neck releases on the planet. What I suggest is go to 29" make loop a little longer which will feel the same, but have less string on your face and give you more leverage and be much more forgiving. Its all preference for sure but its clearly very long. Thanks for the tips and video. Respectful recommendation.

[@kyledouglas5382]

Hey Chris, thanks for the comment. When watching Erik shoot in person he is actually slightly short on draw length if anything. His front arm tends to bend and his front shoulder likes to scrunch up. The release he is shooting is the Carter First Choice. It looks similar to the Too Simple which has a very short throat but the First Choice actually has a regular length throat when compared to other thumb button releases on the market. Shortening the draw length and lengthening the d-loop would not help him. The bow he is shooting has a short ATA when compared to the draw length he is shooting. This makes for a steep string angle. Adding a longer loop and shortening the draw length with this steep of a string angle would make it more difficult for Erik to be able to touch his nose on the string effectively weakening his anchor point. Sorry I don’t mean to call you out or argue, I just wanted to give my opinion on these topics. As you said, archery is all preference and whatever makes Erik shoot the best is what he needs to go with.

[@MuleyFreak]

I try and allow folks who know more than me to coach me according to their vast knowledge and experience level. I truly feel like Kyle's professionalism would supersede his niceness if something were out of whack if that makes sense. I appreciate your comment, Chris. You sounds like a solid and knowledgeable archer. Cheers!

[@chrisochoa1222]

@@MuleyFreak Great to know! Thanks for the video its always awesome to see these types of calibration!

[@chrisochoa1222]

@@kyledouglas5382 Right on - you would know for sure! Hope when shooting gets back to normal you continue your terror!

[@Kgsoloman-ou6wm]

@@kyledouglas5382 Assuming this is actually Kyle; I do agree with your mention of the string angle being more acute do to the ATA length as that does play a factor into anchor positioning; If you look at 1:35, where he’s hit the back wall. Elbow does not have a bend and the shoulder hasn’t shrunken up too bad, the apex of the string is almost at his jaw, his release hand is nearly a fist to accommodate for far his hand is needing to come back. His transition into the anchor position is dropping his front arm to eat up some of the string length because the draw is just too long. If he were to keep everything up top and aligned, along with the bow arm level with shoulders, his draw length would be considerably too long. To fix the issue of anchor position on a shorter ATA bow, the anchor hand will need to move slightly higher on the face, rather than further behind the jaw. The release hand should also be in a more relaxed position rather than a fist.

[@richardadams1910]

more content like this please! thanks and great job y'all!

[@MuleyFreak]

Thanks, brother! More to come!

[@travismiller5438]

I feel like this video is in response to my DL is too long comment on another video. Thanks for the tips. Love your channel.

[@MuleyFreak]

Not necessarily; however, we felt it prudent to do some anchor-point tips for those shooting thumb releases. It's definitely an adjustment for those transitioning away from other releases.

[@alecrobertson2283]

His draw length looks like it’s too long to me lol

[@justindunn3496]

Great tips. Man I hate to be that guy but you look at least an inch long on your draw length.

[@MuleyFreak]

Yeah...might be.

[@louiscooper6572]

Really enjoying your guy's videos great stuff hopefully alot more to come wouldn't mind seeing Kyle pick his up and give some tips awesome work

[@MuleyFreak]

Kyle is a great teacher! Plz subscribe and thanks for watching.

[@anthonyhaeckl2352]

The shooter is sky drawing. Bad medicine..!

[@helodriver20]

Erik, love the new V3. Did you do a video on what accessories you ordered and setup? I watched the one at Douglas when you opened it, but didn’t see the exact components. 🦌❤️🇺🇸

[@MuleyFreak]

We will have another video coming on components configurations.

[@helodriver20]

@@MuleyFreak sweet!

[@toms7947]

Nice video. Thanks for posting. Helpful!

[@MuleyFreak]

You bet, Tom! Good luck to you this year!

[@stephencarlson1430]

Thank you for helpful information video

[@jeremylandphier692]

Draw length is a little long to where your not getting good follow through, and the sky drawing is gunna get you in trouble , if it’s to much weight back it down 5 lbs !

[@MuleyFreak]

On the contrary. If anything it's a little short.

[@alecrobertson2283]

@@MuleyFreak I’ve always heard that the knock should be to the corner of your mouth not the back of your eyebrow haha

[@corn3459]

My nose does not touch the string...most likely because shorter ATA Bow. Is there any other face points of contact you would recommend instead?

[@pensnut08]

That def helped!

[@MuleyFreak]

Glad the video helped out, it's nice to get pro tips from Kyle!

[@MrMalditor]

Quick question on the 45* angle with the anchor point. My thumb comes into contact with my neck when I do that which gives me some clearance issues if I have anything on that has a high neck, such as hunting clothing. Should I try to adjust the thumb trigger position to give myself extra clearance to accommodate that or maybe look for a different release?

[@kyledouglas5382]

The 45 degree angle is just a reference to help people understand that your hand needs to be at an angle not flat against your face or parallel to the ground. Everyone has to find what works for them and the best anchor point for you may not work for someone else. Try adjusting the angle of your had to find what is most comfortable and repeatable for you. There are no set rules on anchor points.

[@MrMalditor]

@@kyledouglas5382 Thank you, I'll do that.

[@MuleyFreak]

Looks like Kyle answered your question. Be sure to subscribe to the channel if you already haven't!

[@matthewmcnulty698]

Did. You have. To change your draw length with shooting a handheld release

[@MuleyFreak]

Kinda. It seems like 30.5” was too long after switching to a handheld. I’m now right at 30” and it feels good!

[@matthewmcnulty698]

@@MuleyFreak my. Draw length is 28.5

[@matthewmcnulty698]

So I might have. To go to 28

[@philippbayer866]

Thanks man

[@MuleyFreak]

You're welcome!

[@aaronvanwoerkom6401]

Great tips - I have often found myself struggling to find consistency especially when I haven't picked up my bow for some time.

[@MuleyFreak]

All the reason to shoot more often! :)

[@doms8553]

You trying to break the barrel off that release? Haven't seen a guy punch his barrel-like that since my third deployment to Kazaksthan.

[@MuleyFreak]

Ha ha. Well, Dom S. I am for sure BRAND new to this method and still adjusting so I'm glad I could be the first to punch a barrel that hard for you! 😂

[@sssleepy422]

the tips are great, the sky draw isnt

[@Adlautz]

Damn sky draw much? lol

[@MuleyFreak]

Thanks for watching, Tony.

[@kingofgaming267]

Why have i never use one of these thumb release

[@MrRodriguez918]

Smoked him!

[@zhickman338]

You totally skipped your stabilizer setup!

[@MuleyFreak]

More on that one soon! Lol

[@RickSeymour54]

People would pay $300 $400 $500 for the amount of time you were with KD getting l e s s o n s ❤

[@dusanpavlovic2201]

Ur draw lenght is waaaaaay too long like and inch long

[@MuleyFreak]

Thanks for the insight.

[@torreyintahoe]

Way too long.