3 kids found in IMPOSSIBLE places | Missing 411 (Part 4)

Jaryd Atadero, Alfred Beilhartz, and Lillian Carney were playing in the woods when suddenly suddenly they vanished... WHERE they are found, has baffled authorities for decades.
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[@Geronimo2Fly]

They took a 3-year-old on an advanced hike, without consulting the father first, then LOST him??? I find it difficult to comprehend the idiocy that would be required to do such a thing.

[@elizabethramsey4245]

Well it's pure inconsideration and irresponsibility because the group was probably just a bunch of young inexperienced idiotic people without their own kids

[@morganbarfield108]

They did consult the dad for him to go? Or do you mean because they changed their route?

[@AnarchistPoop]

The father was responsible. A person without children cannot handle a 3 year old safely, least of all in the fucking forest.

[@nobody3765]

Morgan Barfield they took him to a completely different place without asking if that was ok. A more dangerous place. The father probably would have said no. That’s probably why they didn’t ask.

[@_Thinklove_]

If you watch Missing 411 you'll see the father is broken to this day. Those people who Jaryd was with must have felt guilty. No use in blaming anyone in this situation. Just hope you never end up in their shoes.

[@michaelburkett774]

Who takes a 6 and 3 year old on a 11 mile hike?! 🤔 I'm sorry but that's absolutely crazy

[@mwrench4185]

christian singles

[@kathrinawebb4927]

Yeah a collective group of 11lost a 3 year old while on a 11 mile rugged hike and the kid has untied shoes and 3 year old skipping around with untied shoes ASSUME GET S GRIP

[@JD-mf6kf]

Exactly!

[@cayennenaturetrails8953]

Yep

[@lovelymommy2477]

Someone who trust stranger's with their 3 and 6yro. I would like to know if dad drink? He had to have been drunk or high to do this. No way in hell I'm entrusting my precious babies with a bunch of people I don't know. No way in hell I'm letting my 2 small babies go on a hike in the frick'n wilderness with a group of stranger's. That's just crazy.

[@teddy30712]

I can’t imagine the sheer, pure, absolute *HORROR* of realizing your child has gone missing. I don’t have children, but I don’t think I would ever stop crying until I found them.

[@debrajones4010]

That last case of the 4 year old makes me mad. To think that these people are parenting 10 kids and don’t even have the common sense to put the smaller kids in the middle of each parent (one in front and one in the back)so if anything was to happen, then the ones behind them would be able to see exactly what it was. Or if the child took off in another direction they’d know what way to go, but no they put the child near the end. Did I miss something or not? Please let me know

[@SweetAshGamer]

I actually can not imagine trusting someone with my 3 year old and finding out they lost them. I can't even comprehend how that would feel. How unbelievably sad and terrifying.

[@kurtneyemich7304]

Something about a parent screaming “you lost my baby” gives me goosebumps I can imagine how guilty everyone felt after that

[@kairaocon1416]

Right! That wrecked me so hard. I get anxious just thinking about it.

[@Beans_Autistic_Adventures]

The father shouldn't have let a 3-year-old baby go to begin with

[@muhammadscott1488]

@@Beans_Autistic_Adventures He thought they were going to a fishing area not an advanced hiking trail.

[@mjhorvath2336]

@@muhammadscott1488 The father was an idiot to let the kids go with strangers! and the hikers were idiots for taking 2 young kids along!

[@muhammadscott1488]

@@mjhorvath2336 I don't think he was an idiot he was just lied to. With that mindset anyone who leaves their kid with a babysitter is an idiot.

[@Bleys1973]

How the hell do you change the location you're going to when you have someone else's child?

[@genesanford9412]

Far as it goes ,the "people" watching his child are partly to blame.

[@severketorskeleton3759]

that's called kidnaping

[@keepitpakt]

@Ingrid Garcia you're name should be Karen garcia

[@keepitpakt]

@Ingrid Garcia how am I hypocritical and have double standards. You're sentence doesn't make any sense, figures you're probably one of the people Mike is talking about lol

[@adumbguy9121]

Jeez in 7 hours this whole argument started.

[@MsTemptation]

The first story: I’m pretty certain that the father of the missing/deceased child wishes that he had listened to that little whisper telling him to not let the child go. Whenever you hear that little voice of reason listen to it. Never assume that a bunch of strangers will care more about your child’s welfare like that of the actual parent.

[@epic7224]

Ikr!

[@eugeniaskelley5194]

I don't think the father did. I think he thought well he will be in a large group so he should be okay. Probably the same way parents feel like when kids go to play at other houses. They don't know who could be coming over to that other house, or when kids go on field trips at school. They know the people who live in the house and the parents trust the school.

[@x-starlight-x]

Whenever I look after children other than my own, I feel more worry and concern for them because I would feel absolutely horrendous if something happened to them when I'm responsible. I know most people don't think like this but there are some people who actually care about children

[@Calamity_Jen85]

Then no kids would ever go to summer camp. To friends cabins for a ski trip. On long distance field trips. I think the most important thing is teaching kids to be as prepared as their age allows, maintain open communication where your kids know you will always believe them, and know who they will be with ahead of time/addresses/phone numbers and then let them go on adventures. Kids need to be aware but they don’t need to live in constant fear. That’s not living.

[@dewaldsteyn1306]

Which makes me believe the father wasnt smart either.

[@jonathanbell8887]

I just want to make a point. I live in Colorado and used to do the incline fairly regularly. The incline is a massive, extremely steep staircase made out of rail road parts that goes straight up pikes peak mountain. Little kids used to CRUSH that thing like it was nothing. So climbing something that seems difficult or impossible to a grown man really doesn’t surprise me even the slightest tiniest bit.

[@Vampii__]

for real kids have so much energy and probably would turn the whole thing into a game which makes the time and distance pass quicker

[@laurabechelli2323]

People definitely underestimate kids abilities at climbing.

[@sherimcgee1587]

I've done that incline several times too and it killed me. but toddlers are fearless and are usually on all fours anyway. people just don't realize.. plus those little suckers are fast and interested in everything. I had 4 and they kept me on my toes.

[@jengoodwyn2715]

Lol. A friend of mine took a mutual friend's young daughter for a mountain bike and my friend grumbled afterwards about how this little girl literally danced circles around her, talking thie whole time.

[@effaroundfindout]

Right? These searchers CONSTANTLY underestimate children and it's been proven time and time again that they were so wrong. I wonder how many children died because they didn't expand their search to mildly difficult areas??

[@shydinero6697]

You never take somebody’s child anywhere without letting the parent know first.

[@mistral-unizion-music]

And you never let your kid go with strangers, and with untied shoes. That was stupid.

[@VideoDotGoogleDotCom]

They must've been Catholic clergy.

[@drinking_master]

@@VideoDotGoogleDotCommy first comment got removed....even though I literally posted a rather damning quote....oh well look up Bella Dodd...... pedos not only are monsters that seek to harm children.... they seek to harm the Catholic church....what better way to not only gain easy victims by pretending to be a good person and simultaneously take down an enemy (the church) that seeks to stop them(pedos) than by infiltrating your enemy (the Catholic church) and try and destroying from within!

[@sneersh9107]

I would've been so pissed if I were the father, you tell me you're taking my kid to the fish hatchery and then take him on some hike that's way too difficult for him only to lose track of him and he's never seen again. So incredibly irresponsible of those people to do that

[@Hisdudeness9500]

@@drinking_master I would buy that comment if the church itself hadn't been playing 3 pedo monty, shuffling them around rather than risking embarassment.

[@jamssnana4084]

My heart just breaks for these parents who will never know the fate of their children. Even if they find bones and shoes years later, to not know what happened to my baby would drive me crazy.

[@barbaravance6774]

Exactly! My family thiought I was paranoid. Nope! I worked search and rescue. My kids weren't even allowed to stay with family members until they were older. I trusted No one except my husband. When we went camping my kids were always in sight.

[@jeanettesieja819]

To me as a parent, that would be the hardest part, not knowing. It would drive me insane with all the possibilities that could have happened. Death, as sad & hard as it is, is at least final & you can lay your loved one to rest. But not knowing... It would be hard to go on.

[@robertdemon3550]

I think Sasquatch abduct many of these children, especially when they are found in places they could not get to.

[@appleforeal826]

@@robertdemon3550 lmao fax

[@thelastplaguedoctor6992]

If it happened to my only child I would probaly just kill my self to be with them

[@bethanylee4284]

As a mother of 3 boys, and one of them is 3, this is so infuriating. Dont ever take someone else's kids to another location without the parent's consent! Especially not an 11 mile hike in the wilderness!! Rip little Jared 😔

[@Ericasentertainments]

The first story definitely gives abductor vibes, mainly because it seems like Jared was very comfortable around strangers. Him walking up to the fisherman and asking them about bears. And then the group hearing him laugh, like he was playing with someone. Jared very well could’ve been guided away by an abductor(s). That would explain the pants being found inside out.

[@Aquarius444K]

damn...horrifyingly true..

[@mantasquid]

they could’ve kept the shoes too, and then when he died they brought his remains there and left the shoes; animals couldve drug away most of the bones and the shoes would have looked newer. it would’ve been chance tho that the hikers found the shoes before they were weather damaged, unless the hikers that “found” the shoes were the ones that put them there. they couldve been the fishermen the kid had asked about the bears and made up the story about hiking. perps usually like to insert themselves into investigations.

[@joelschmierer3544]

Weird clothes stuff happens in like most missing 411 cases, same as people vanishing without any trace like scent or infrared heat or marks as if by portal into another dimension.

[@jd4262]

The fishermen sound very suspicious to me

[@pamelajackson2383]

you are right, that does make sense.

[@katiequeen2275]

Seeing a boy looking at you, and then screaming while being pulled away by some unknown force is something from a horror movie

[@masterreaper115]

"nah its nothing" Some police officer probably

[@icantthinkofaname15]

@@masterreaper115 awww lmao that was cute and funny

[@NorthernGreenEyes]

@@masterreaper115 Right cuz al police officers are bed, right?

[@masterreaper115]

@@NorthernGreenEyes no? chill out, you arnt at a protest you dont need to be so on your toes my guy. in the story a hiker reported it and the police/park ranger/ whoever just did nothing. hence the "nah its nothing" joke. do you get it now? its ok, no ones saying your blue life doesnt matter ok? cuddle your 9 mill and go to sleep

[@haydenglendenning4305]

I'm gonna say it was like maybe a cougar or something.

[@JagsFan116]

Why do I enjoy listening to this dude tell scary stories so much? I’m a 28 year old man and I listen to him like a 3rd grade during story time

[@MaxRebelliousPirate91]

Just replied the same thing basicly.. 29 here . I find this strangely soothing, just because of his voice/way of telling stories I think, not the content 🤣🙈

[@dominicjackson9226]

Yeah I’m 29 it’s 230 am I got off at midnight I’m still listening 👌👌👌👌

[@austinferris2598]

26 and he is the only person that makes videos I watch daily

[@salliegallegos918]

Most live a great story told by a gifted storyteller!

[@joshuaperez4924]

Me too!! I just realized I'm old 28 lol

[@phyllisjefferies3093]

Thank you for giving David the credit he deserves for his years of work!!!!

[@christibarrick1768]

These stories from early 1900s and late 1800s have a ton of detail. It’s shocking how much detail was preserved with these stories. And yet again, you’re an amazing storyteller. 💕

[@NickRgibbs]

I feel like prior to easy access to the technology we take for granted (ie a picture says a thousand words), a lot of things were just documented significantly more thorough in the past. Plus the author of 411 dedicated a ton of time to research and interview to compile all the info relevant to the stories

[@lgonzo5411]

No way I'm letting my 6 and 3-year-old go hiking with a group of people I do not know very well.

[@SigridStorjern]

With untied shoes... In the mountain

[@a_wandering_ghost42o11]

Seriously that’s what I was thinking. Hell I wouldn’t even let people take my dog with them, let alone my kid.

[@amandawilliams2266]

This story kills me because they never should have gone on that hike they told Allen they were going to the hatchery . Had they initially said we're going on a hike I think he would have said no .☹️

[@TheSolfilm]

So do I ! And what about untied shoes ? It's either you tied them or don't put them on. Unting them could cause more problems of balance for him. Yeah and 3 years old is waaaay too young to be in the mountains without holding my hand almost all the time. No way !

[@goaticorn8702]

@@loko7914 He, very clearly, was new to caring for his children on his own and made a number of errors that an experienced parent (or intelligent person) would not have made. Just because they're from his church does not mean they are legitimate caretakers nor does it mean they're safe. You do not, ever, let your very young children go ANYWHERE with a group of people you barely know in a non-official format where they know they won't really be held responsible if something happens. Never, ever, ever. I'm not even a parent and I know that. The man was an idiot. The people on the hike were, clearly, not only negligent in their care of the children in their charge (ie, not paying attention and watching them closely) they also changed plans on where they were supposed to go and what they were supposed to do...and didn't notify the father. Those weren't their kids and they had no right to do that. Idiots all around.

[@kaylanowlin2667]

It’s so frustrating when authorities discount evidence because “oh nah kids can’t do that” like hasn’t that been proven wrong too many times?

[@gemaramirez9417]

Was thinking the same... 🙄

[@isee1158]

I mean they definitely shouldn't neglect to search an area or theory for those reasons, but I can understand not being able to believe a small (under 5 in many cases) kid being able to climb a 500 ft sheer cliff or walk 12 miles through blistering cold up hills and through barbwire fences. It's what makes these cases so strange and unexplainable, maybe one freak case of a small child doing it is explainable but with the amount of cases we're talking about, shit really makes no sense.

[@gamlaingabrielchere1755]

@@isee1158 This attitude itself is the problem. Children's capabilities for moving over terrain does not lag far behind adults and in todays society is frequently /better than/ an adult because kids are much less affected by our sedentary lifestyle, are smaller and lighter weight, and are generally much more active than their parents. This is simply obvious if you look back at history and look at wandering peoples who still exist: Kids can often keep pace with the adults or even outpace them. They very often have too. So the prevailing attitude that the kid can't possibly have gotten as far as an 'adult' is just deliberate egotism on the part of the adult, is wrong, and leads to kids not being found because the adults aren't searching as far as the /kid/ could have gone, but as far as the adult could.

[@nleem3361]

@@gamlaingabrielchere1755 totally agree. I could climb about anything as a kid. My mom left the side of the crib down because if I didn't want to sleep I'd climb out to play regardless of weather it was up or down, so she figured that was safer to leave down. I also liked to climb rocks and trees. I remember being 5 and climbing until the branches would bounce under me probably 30 ft up. The hard part was always coming back down. I always made it without help, but I remember being scared about it after times.

[@lindisease2617]

Yes I was just thinking about my old roommates kid when he was 2-3yr old and that kid could climb, run and roll miles barefoot. Very energetic and brave, this kid had to be watched like 24/7 in fact it’s is why we all cohabitated for so long lol this kid needed a village and I’ve run into a few other kids like him so I know he’s not the outlier.

[@SWprepardness]

I love David Paulides and all his Missing 411 books and movies. Thanks for giving him a shout out

[@caroliner.9388]

Why any search for missing persons wouldn’t start with dog-tracking is the biggest mystery to me.

[@notolerance8218]

dog tracking isn't the most accurate all the time, look it up.

[@they-live1]

@@notolerance8218 Dog tracking is very effective, look what up?

[@ronyozamoto2216]

@@notolerance8218 I like your name and the irony in your profile image

[@notolerance8218]

@@they-live1 it's right in front of your face g

[@basilsage1313]

I agree!

[@Tugboat-R-Us]

I couldn’t imagine taking a 3 year old on a 11 mile hike. Even if they didn’t realize how treacherous it was going to be, you never allow a 3 year old child to wonder off in an area that is unknown and foreign to you.

[@joelschmierer3544]

Wtf i cant imagine a 3 year old doing a flat 11 miles let alone in mountains

[@BringMeTheChildren]

Now, I have two siblings and one is 4 years old and often we go hiking with my siblings. But that does not mean we are letting my brother (4) run around, me (14) my mom (34) my dad (33) and my grandpa (61) are all keeping a very close eye on my brother . As for my sister she's two but we keep her in a carrier, I can't believe how I, a teenager, keep better watch on a toddler then two groups of people can.

[@pamelajackson2383]

@@BringMeTheChildren something is off on this case...you said it well...how on earth could all those people lose him? It sounds evil if you really think about it...evil. They didn't take the time or effort to watch that poor little child....how SICK. I hope they were all sued for millions...i have no idea if he took it to that level or even if he could. This story is one of the worst i have come across on youtube. Somehow, the dad trusted them...but i do believe he thought they were going to a DIFFERENT and SAFER location...not the dangerous trail. Their plans changed...and they went on the dangerous hike instead of the first location. I don't know if they asked him if it was ok to do so. I've heard both yes and no. The condition of his clothing and location are all very suspicious. Something is fishy.

[@rossy5121]

💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@rossy5121]

@@BringMeTheChildren 💯💯💯♥️♥️♥️

[@princenasin4936]

Could you do a one hour episode? I feel like I can’t get enough of these

[@lucassmith1886]

Yes! Perhaps he would do it for a 500k special or something like that. Maybe even one for Halloween as well!

[@doubleboy2388]

Go listen to David Paulides. He has a ton of podcasts out there where he discusses hundreds of cases. I've been listening to Dave for years and have heard pretty much them all. Either that, or buy Dave's books where all the cases are told in detail

[@amelzon1]

One year ago…talking about a 500k special? Just discovered him last week. Over 3 million subs. Holy shit.

[@ryanjones7681]

@@amelzon1 right?!?!? Almost to 5 million now (4.86)

[@mikebrwn92]

6.7 mil now

[@Anna_Lou]

Something a lot of people forget is, children at this age know no fear. When they want to climb, they just do it. It is like a drunk person. They just do something and most of the times they don't get hurt, since they know no fear in the state they are in.

[@superpsychonutcase289]

@@cdes1776 Have you been in the same room with a toddler? Yes, they act like little drunkards. No shame, no filter, just chaos.

[@cdes1776]

@@superpsychonutcase289 You're right. I worked in day care with tots and infants. I don't know why I wrote that. Apologies.

[@TheDeloreana]

The 1st story reminded me because of some similarities with an other missing child case. Couple years ago a 2 year old girl went missing she lives with her big family on the mountains in a rural area in Turkey..The family was herding animal so they were in rural areas. There was big search for her. She has been found but unfortunately not alive. Similar thing with Jared's case is, the way her belongings were found. Her shoes placed next to each other and her clothes folded and placed neatly on a rock next to her. After a week they found out the killer was the grandfather who was abusing her and may be other grandkids.

[@dalepeter1870]

A 3 year old have so much influence makes little sense

[@effaroundfindout]

right?? Jared's case screams child predator 😞😞

[@phantom0456]

As the father of a two and a half year old the story of Jared is just heartbreaking. I can’t imagine how horrifying that must’ve been. That being said, I’m not letting my son go off with anyone I don’t know well.

[@MizzzFizzz]

When I was about 5 my dads ex (girlfriend at the time) wanted to go out partying and leave me alone with her drunk 18-year-old son and his friends, she said to dad "the world doesn't revolve around her" that was the end of their relationship lol. I'm 22 now and he still grits his teeth if I go to a friend's house for the night.

[@creatureofthenight852]

@@MizzzFizzz it was for the better too, what kind of a reply even is that? Terrible mom too similar to my experiences

[@athelwulfgalland]

@@MizzzFizzz That lady had issues. I don't know what attracted your father to her in the first place! She seemed to hardly be a parent to her own child so how did he expect that she would treat you? Also on that note, when you are a parent, while the world may not revolve around your children your life most certainly does. She had her priorities all kinds of messed up. As far as sleep overs are concerned I'm the same way as your father. I was terrified that one of my children would have to go through what either their mother or I went through during our childhoods. Thus there was always a lot of interaction between the two families before I would even consider it. Around about half the time I'd either get bad vibes from one thing or another and/or the other family would find it too bothersome. Presently my daughter wants me to allow her online boyfriend to move from his mother's home in Wisconsin to our home in Minnesota and I'm like; No way! He's on disability, spends all his cash on booze or weed and has anger issues. In my view if he was genuinely serious he'd get his act together, save up and get an apartment in our area so the two of them could date. My daughter is special needs, has the mental/emotional maturity of an 8~12 year old and I'm her legal guardian. Naturally I'm going to scrutinize anyone who tries to get close to my "little girl" with a very critical eye. My son on the other hand prefers to socialize in public during daylight hours and to come home at night. I can count the number of sleepovers he's attended on both of my hands. lol They are 24 and 17 respectively.

[@old-fashionedJoe83]

There is no freaking way I'd entrust my small children to a bunch yahoos I'd just met.

[@timcoppinger3373]

Especially to dopey Christians.

[@AnarchistPoop]

@Darkfarfetch It's infuriating how stupid police are sometimes. Ridicolous that this stranger happens to find the body miles away from what common sense dictaminates the child would be and a test that's flawed and not even taken as valid anymore is all it takes to rule them out as suspect.s

[@charlenethomas6443]

Me too, that child should not have gone on the advanced hike, or any hike without his parents

[@c.thomas841]

Agreed

[@nobody3765]

Unfortunately single, working parents sometimes make poor choices about childcare to make their lives a little easier.

[@MiTsuRiN09]

Strangers or friends, the possibility of people losing your child is high because, in their minds, your child is not their first priority. I was one such case. Went on vacation with my mom's group of friends. I insisted on following my friend when we went into a shopping mall. I got distracted by a toy shop and stood there watching all the toys, the rest of them kept walking and chatting and nobody realized I was gone even when there were around 10 people. Fortunately, I was taught not to panic or move from my position if I got lost. From what my mom told me, I sat at a bench in front of the toy shop for about an hour until they finally found me. I was very calm and said "Oh, you're here, let's go" I was 5 😂

[@macwinter7101]

Excluding obscure abductions, stories like the first one can best be explained by mountain lions in regions where they are native (such as Colorado). Mountain lions generally avoid adults and groups, but they are certainly known to attack young children, especially when those children are alone. And it's not unusual for a mountain lion to carry a child up a cliff or a tree to eat their prey away from other predators like coyotes and bears. So when a small child goes missing in places like the western USA, and their remains are found in a hard-to access location or far away, those are good signs it may have been a mountain lion.

[@bhargavipba]

But that doesn't explain why Jaryd's pants were upside down. Animals obviously wouldn't take the time to do that.

[@Necrowolf81]

@@bhargavipba inside out not upside down

[@Necrowolf81]

lol they don't ignore the adults if cubs are around. Saw a video of a hiker that came upon a mother and her cubs. He immediately started walking backwards away from them and the mother kept coming towards him for over a mile. He finally had to slowly bend down and throw a rock at it which caused it to run back to its cubs.

[@NickRgibbs]

I'm surprised this isn't talked about more. I've never witnessed a mountain lion attack, but having been stalked by one I can tell you we only knew about it after it was long gone. There is lots of stories on this channel about very small children (or their remains) covering large distances or impossible terrain to be found on impossible outcrops or remote caves. Considering: male mountain lions can make running jumps of like 35-45 feet and vertical jump nearly 12-15feet, are an apex predator, known to take small game when it is opportunistic, and their hunting range can extend to a 500 mile area. This is seems pretty clearly to be a cougar moving with its kill.

[@enigma1247]

All of these cases with kids camping that include while walking the youngest kids are all the way in the back baffle me. When I take my kids camping I would never allow toddlers to walk on their own behind me...no matter uow slow they are I will either walk with them side by side or pick them up to go faster. Smh these are just cases of horrible judgment by the adults and parents

[@kylorojen8066]

Yeah I always wonder whats going on inside their head when they do that.

[@resourcedragon]

@@kylorojen8066: In the Missing 411 cases, I have the feeling that the parents are not their usual selves, just as in the cases where adults go missing there are usually some points where they behave strangely. Whatever is involved in these cases, I think it is able to control people's behaviour, at least to a limited extent - but enough that it/they can abduct people.

[@srikarrishikesanXF]

resourcedragon that’s a good point. In each of the cases in the whole series, the people make decisions that are strange and seem against their better judgement, as though they didn’t have control over what they do. That’s an interesting idea and it makes sense. Don’t know if it fascinates me more or freaks me out more lol

[@blackm4gic722]

resourcedragon never rlly thought about that until now, maybe I’ve heard that idea tossed around about something somewhere, but it would make sense. I’ve often wondered the same thing, as to why these parents acted like this. But I chalked it up as most likely them be negligent or they intentionally lost them or murdered them. But this new idea is more plausible when u have cases with parents who don’t immediately tick the boxes of being bad parents

[@Boriboy68]

resourcedragon not to come across as rude and dismissive but I think some parents are just irresponsible. Sometimes it leads to the demise of their children. I’ve seen many irresponsible adults so I just chalk it up to that

[@mrnatejay9967]

The problem with “authorities” is they dismiss everything out of their norm. Then a kid ends up in an impossible place and they’re like hmm... guess we were wrong. It’s too late for that kid.

[@appledough3843]

You can’t blame the either. They do that because many times in the past people would make crazy stories and the authorities would go out and see if what they said was true and it wasn’t true. While they were out searching other people actually needed help. To prevent that they don’t go out on unlikely stories.

[@MrTazman1959]

Exactly....Open mind, opens doors...

[@mooseass2996]

@@appledough3843 you could argue that the people missing need help as well

[@mason_gilmour12gilmour81]

@@mooseass2996 yes but if its taken weeks and others are in danger dont ya think that the people that can be helped should be helped first

[@smittysmeee]

I love internet people who think they are smarter than all those who actively seek training and have experience in helping people irl. So cool. So very very helpful. With your knowledge and skills, you should be running search and rescue. What are you doing wasting time here?? lmao...

[@SummerBreezesCarryMelodies]

The fact that im watching this on the missing 411 playlist makes this so much better😂

[@phlebgrl6064]

I can’t imagine how the man who reported seeing a child on the outcropping, and then hearing him scream like that, could ever forget it. Absolutely chilling!

[@thatcherthomas5113]

Honestly the best part of MrBallen is that he actually acknowledges his fans, his stories are awesome, and he uploads like 4 times a week!

[@Powerbandm]

For this reason you must gently abolish the like button

[@velikan3170]

@@Powerbandm i like how he is not like other youtubers who will say"smash the like button" and sh*t but he does not do that which will attract more fans or viewers

[@Powerbandm]

Khairul Mirza straight up! John will be past a million subs in no time at all. I honestly wish I could have amnesia when it comes to these videos that way I could watch them all in a row again lol

[@velikan3170]

@@Powerbandm damn i used to have amnesia when it comes to the documentaries of any wars in the middle east

[@carrieann3867]

Love the profile picture..lol

[@SiriusZiriux]

When I watched Missing411; I broke down HARD when the Father of Jared began blaming Himself..Beating Himself in the Heart.. "I'm Sorry Little Man; I'm sorry."

[@bigmacharbingerofthegoodne2105]

How could adults be so callous with their treatment of this poor child. As a father if I allowed my son too go with someone and something happened guilt would consume you. It’s our job to keep our kids safe. It’s written in our DNA.

[@resourcedragon]

@@bigmacharbingerofthegoodne2105: I've not seen the movie version but I am not surprised that the father felt that way. When I hear about the group deciding to go somewhere completely different I cannot help but think how angry the father must feel about that. I certainly would, combined with self-blame for letting the boy go with them at all.

[@madalinamazareanu2770]

And I think there's no mystery about "what happened to Jared". Any mountain lion would have dragged him up there with little effort. And the scream they heard? You can really tell every single time if it's a scream of glee or fear or pain if it's not your child? That's BS. I confused a "pain scream" for a "play scream" just last week, and it was a kid I know well. The only adult who correctly recognized it was his mother. He was stung by a bee while playing.

[@SiriusZiriux]

@@skottyo Not as Funny as when I figure out where You are and Your Nuts meet My Grandfather's Cowboy Boots.

[@madalinamazareanu2770]

@@ret3556 You can take your shoes off (or someone or something can get your shoes off) without untying them. And they were not in a tree.

[@silverlily2389]

Whenever I see a lone kid as young as Jarrod/Jared, my first thought is, "Who's with this kid? Where're his/her parents?" The group is too careless to just take these young kids to hiking without letting their dad know 🥺

[@indianfan1029]

Yeah those fishermen sounded fishy to me. Why would a 3 year old child walk up alone to some strangers to inquire about bears or any such thing. Plus they just let him go, like it was ok to let a 3 year old go alone in a place with predators.

[@rtqii]

I have lived in the mountains and I have had encounters with both bears and mountain lions. I have found dens while out exploring, and fresh deer kills. I kept two half wild ranch dogs for personal protection, they kept the big predators out of the yard, and they were always with me when I was out walking and exploring. Both bears and big cats will frequently drag or carry captured prey away from where the prey was taken, and cache the remaining meat when they are full. Between birds, scavengers, and top tier predators, animal remains don't last long.

[@xc7525]

Half wild? Did you just keep them outside all the time? They weren’t aggressive towards you? Never hear about having half wild dogs so not sure what they are like!

[@rtqii]

@@xc7525 They loved me, but they acted like feral animals to everything else that moved. There were a very few people that could pet them.

[@xc7525]

@rtqii huh interesting! Thank you for sharing!

[@rtqii]

@@xc7525 They usually slept with me at night, and they had two dog doors, one for each dog... So if they heard something outside, they flew through the dog doors and were on it. I felt very well guarded and protected, and alerted to things that I could not hear... Funny story, I started with one dog door. A car was driving up the dirt road towards my place, and both dogs tried to get out through the one dog door at the same time. They got into a fight, and there was bloodshed before they sorted out the exit order. So I got a second door, installed it, and taught them which door was theirs. Then both dogs could run out at the same time. With each dog having their own dog door, they used it coming in as well as going out. I never once saw them use the other dog's door.

[@xc7525]

@@rtqii 😂😂🤣 that gave me quite a chuckle thank you for sharing. For half wild dogs they sound more orderly then some people I know! Curious how you came across the two dogs? Did you get them from a liter or did they just show up on your property?

[@yeahimsonya]

I remember watching Jaryd’s case on missing 411 and to see his dad holding Jaryd’s cranium and saying that was the only things left of his son it just broke my heart

[@slimsadie6491]

When?

[@yeahimsonya]

@@slimsadie6491 I think it was in like 2019 I watched it I’m not sure when exactly it happened though

[@slimsadie6491]

@@yeahimsonya okay

[@yeahimsonya]

@@mooseing22 omg

[@kellyrmcmahon7893]

I know every parent's worst night mare but even worse still cause of the way Jaryd's remains were found as well so heart breaking and awful 😖 for his father and family 💔

[@whitetigergurl12]

Mr. Atadero taught gym at my middle school. I remember him giving speeches on Jarrod a couple times while I was there, and we had books on his disappearance in the library, too. He's a really sweet man, and obviously still misses his son... My heart goes out to him every time I hear his story.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

be that as it may, the man was a complete moron for letting his kids go with strangers even on his own land…that is if he didn’t cause the death himself

[@Gunship888]

@@bostonrailfan2427 yeah I hate to admit but he seems at fault 100%… I’d never let my kids especially a 3 y.o go with a bunch of strangers in the freakin woods. That’s just not smart.

[@chriscosby1561]

@@bostonrailfan2427 wasn't his land he owned a hotel close to the land Mr ballen manipulated that part of the story. It was national park land

[@dryb3301]

He was a moronic idiot for letting his 6yrs old and 3yrs old going on with some people. He is responsible for that kids death.

[@mrdog793]

@@dryb3301 I’m mean this was In 1999 so probably people weren’t the brightest for that sure they knew to not to let they kids go in the woods alone but going in the woods with people you know and there was a ton of them including your sister seem pretty safe to them in 1999

[@jdm9700]

I believe that many of these small children were taken by golden eagles. They are known for flying away with children, goats and other larger than average creatures. That scream that they heard, the inability to find him in the vicinity of his disappearance, the absence of any tracks, plus the elevated height of the boys' remains lends credence to my suspicion.

[@pamelajackson2383]

true...and he looked like a tiny thing to the eagle...they swoop in and take small animals, etc. Makes sense. And then found up high. Yes, makes sense.

[@carrierussell9224]

Late to the party, but I agree! My in-laws had a 20-25lb dog picked up by a bald eagle from their backyard, no problem at all. Especially if the eagle just gripped Jaryd's clothing, the sudden feeling of flying could certainly have elicited that "happy, playful laugh" the group heard. He may very well have thought it was a fun game and enjoyed the flight.

[@pamelajackson2383]

@@carrierussell9224 the only problem i can think of is that the clothing was found in perfect condition and the sneakers. That does ot figure in with the bird abduction theory. Also...wasn't one piece of clothing turned inside out??? i can't remember.

[@Necrowolf81]

that doesn't account for the shoes looking brand new after four years despite being found in the same place as some of his other clothing and remains which were well weathered.

[@Lacroix999]

@@pamelajackson2383 the pants being inside out, if it was an animal like an eagle taking them, could have grabbed ahold of their pants and flown away with them, like by their waist. The weight of the child hanging underneath them could have pulled their pants inside out. It’s a long shot, but anything is possible. I’m not sure about the shoes looking new though. Not sure how those would have looked like that after that long, not unless it was in an open space with not brush or anything to get them dirty the whole time. I can’t see someone traveling all around the woods just to put shoes back with the child that long afterwards and just so happened to be right before they got found. But then again, stranger things have happened. The pants thing could have also been the case of a hypothermia situation. In extreme cases like that, the brain tricks us into thinking we’re sure hot and in many cases of extreme cold, people have been found to strip down because they’re going crazy and can’t think straight. For a small child, hypothermia would hit faster for them than an adult. This is also why many times, lost people’s clothes are found scattered about, before they are found. Other than these theories, there’s also the obvious theory that someone just abducted them and took them off.

[@clararawr8177]

Every time I watch this it makes me so mad. You don't take anyone kid somewhere you haven't cleared with them first AND you don't look for an hour without telling them you lost their kid on a mountain

[@agdoren]

I'm so paranoid when I look after somebody else's kid, I can't even imagine...Its bad if you loose your own kid but I don't know if i would ever recover from losing someone else's child. Thats a group trifling and irresponsible morons. poor kid, poor dad.

[@fireyaroterry7553]

The 411 cases are so interesting 😩

[@llewbach77]

And it's disturbing when a person goes missing in the news and time and time again they fit the missing 411 criteria.

[@michaelwills1926]

Yep I always check the details to see if any of the criteria correlate. Water, boulder fields, missing shoes, etc.

[@bittyshottoms1007]

What do people believe is going on Paranormal Vs Nature Vs Military Vs Other?

[@tacotuesday9431]

Bitty Shottoms it has to be paranormal. The fact that sometimes people are dropped off multiple miles away dead from possibly falling but unknown reasons. The Mr. Bear and Mr. Wolf story have to be an urban legend or something paranormal of sort

[@bittyshottoms1007]

@@tacotuesday9431 Really seems so bizarre! How can it be true though? Would we not have found tangible evidence by now? Not trying to naysay- I just feel there are more holes than answers!

[@poopsmith008]

I’ve officially fallen down the rabbit hole

[@michaelmonahan1427]

me too

[@tanithc.7707]

Watch missing 411 and missing 411 the hunted they are SO GOOD.

[@99kurotoshiro37]

plot twist: and the rabbits raised you up

[@wouldntyouliketoknow9477]

Welcome, I've been here for two years. What's the weather like?

[@closing24.7]

Same, bro

[@ardellapurcell4433]

I sometimes wonder if the bizarre stories young children come up with after their disappearances aren't their little minds either trying to make sense of the incident (perhaps they were drugged) or their minds survival instinct to wall off trauma that they had endured. I have a family member who was assaulted by a trusted adult relative when she was 6, and she had forgotten what had happened to her until a Disney movie was played years later, and it came flooding back to her because this movie had been on when this poor excuse of a human being committed a crime against her. I don't want to go into details, because it's not my story, but it really makes me think that a child's mind will attempt amnesia in order to not become severely mentally ill.

[@dexine4723]

You are absolutely correct. I had a difficult childhood and I have very large gaps in my childhood memories. When I tried to wear a mask during covid, I was hit with flashbacks of things I'd forgotten happened to me, to the point where I almost passed out. Some things are best not remembered, for our own sanity.

[@Andrew-mp4le]

As a father now, the kids stories are the ones that hit me the hardest

[@jazminpena6827]

All of these stories lead me to one conclusion: if you’re out in nature with a young child, put a leash on them.

[@Upper_echelon_exotics]

I was thinking that also but people get upset when you put leashes on children. But ya know what? Let them get upset! Better than them getting snatched or disappearing. I mean it could happen in a mall or something. It only takes a minute!

[@emaleighkolano3983]

Phaha I was thinking the same thing !

[@chrisf7504]

Basically that's what I got from these videos haha if its a young child or someone wants to hang back for a bit just stay with them

[@AndrewFlameiing]

Tracker

[@GeeGunMan]

@@Upper_echelon_exotics if i was hiking with my youngin anywhere, i wouldn’t care at all what people think about me playing it safe. better safe than sorry.

[@kathybaker2660]

You don't compromise with a three year old over such a thing. He should not have been allowed to go.

[@vibecountry]

100th

[@dommyboysmith]

THANK YOU! Who negotiates with a 3 year old!? "Put on your shoes and tie them or you're not going" Simple discipline lacks in today's society. And I'm 27. Not some "old-timer". My generation is even worse...

[@jamssnana4084]

I can't remember one time when one of my kids pitching a fit made me change my mind and let them have their way. The fastest way to a resounding "NO" is to have a tantrum.

[@kadoffii]

Would’ve whooped his little ass if he kept taking his shoes off.

[@barbaravance6774]

Well I wouldn't. I have two boys and they weren't even left with family until my oldest was 8 and youngest was 5. They stayed with their Aunt for 5 hours. And I called her so many times she turned her phone off. Then I drove back. I don't trust easily. Especially with my babies.

[@Ozark-Irish-Cherokee]

The missing 411 is almost the best series of stories he tells. The best in my opinion is his stories of the Seals and the story of a guy who he was in Seal training camp with him that ended up on the news for joining a civilian group of war soldiers that sneak into war torn cities to rescue the civilians there... awesome story of a real life Rambo! Y'all should look it up, it's on here. Great, great story!

[@ananonymoushen4339]

Mr Ballen, I know you like the strange, dark and mysterious ;) In the 70s, my Dad and a bunch of young men were once swimming in the river Severn (a river in England that runs from wales to Bristol) at a place called Stony Bottom. Stony Bottom is now known for dangerous currents but back then, it was a popular summer bathing spot. The men were standing in knee high water. One second this guy is there, the next, he’s gone. Just a swirl of water where he’d been standing. He literally disappeared in PLAIN SIGHT, within seconds, in broad daylight surrounded by other people. But what’s really weird about this is, they mounted a police search for him, thinking maybe he’d been taken by a rogue current and swept into deeper water. (If that was the case, the river would likely spit out his corpse a day or two later.) They couldn’t find his body. It was never found. No part of him, no evidence of a body or even his trunks were ever found. The police had no explanation. They hypothesised that the young man had stood in a small patch of unstable sand, which had opened up in a sinkhole. They thought maybe he’d been sucked down into an underground lake, because there are underground watercourses in that area of the country. To this day no one really knows what happened to him and they can’t explain how his body wasn’t found further downstream.

[@jeremys7131]

“It’s not that WE are wrong....it’s gotta be the BLOODHOUNDS!” -Someone seriously Stupid.

[@pinkmilitia6946]

Critical error occurring due to over confidence seems to be a repeating theme with some of these stories...

[@everythingwillberevealed3215]

Dont you wish we knew what the blood hounds knew?

[@dot620]

to be fair, bloodhounds finding the end of a scent trail doesn't mean they have found a body, scents can be masked or washed away by rivers and other conditions. If they wasted time digging for a body and were wrong that is time they couldn't spend searching elsewhere, so double checking isn't as dumb as it might seem. the really surprising thing is how people are still surprised that 2-4 year olds can move fast through wilderness and climb in harsh conditions by themselves. limiting the search area to how far the *average* kid of that age travels in these cases is obviously still the correct course of action but entirely discarding the possibility that a kid might be able to climb as well as or better than an adult is ignorant.

[@amandadonegan2137]

If the child is picked up and carried the Bloodhounds stop tracking.......they should have brought up an air scenting dog too...here in lreland the Search Dogs are trained for ground and air scent whenever possible, and some (mainly sheepdog mixes) also do cadaver discovery. Im surprised each Park in the USA doesnt have dedicated search dog teams. If l was in charge of a Wilderness Park ld damn sure have a dedicated kennel of ground/air and cadaver search dogs.

[@andyandcallie]

I train scent hunting dogs. Bloodhounds are NEVER wrong.

[@flowersgrimm]

I won’t even let my roommate walk my dog around the neighborhood, you have to be careful with what you love.

[@pigalottafattenton5003]

I don’t trust people enough to have a roommate😞

[@nataliesiddle8507]

Theory about Jared shoes: the shoes were actually sheltered from the elements(more than the clothes) and after a feet years, another hiker in the area spotted one or both of them and came to the same conclusion - a kids kicked off their shoes and will be back for them once their parents realises. So they (kindly) grab both shoes and put them together in plain sight for when the kid / family comes back. Not seeing the other clothes or knowing about the missing child.

[@thecarman3693]

Sounds good ... except they were out in the elements for years. Or were they?

[@Necrowolf81]

Even being "sheltered" they would be extremely dirty and would not look brand new

[@imkindaagamer8295]

Parenting 101: don’t trust other people with YOUR kids.

[@AliyahGN]

“Gently Mule Kick” Love it 😂

[@Cornfreak2010]

Its his signature to do these now 🤣

[@jamesallen5591]

Lol

[@Revy_DeaDiNsiDe]

Bummed i don't have a mule emoji.

[@masonwalker8443]

My phone screen didn't like it when I did it

[@steven8820]

Need a leg sweep

[@NotreDime]

I love the different ways to tap like.

[@MrBallen]

Haha thanks man!!

[@liamshiells3613]

@@MrBallen i like when you said 360 no-Scope the like butten

[@kituwahband]

Tap? By now that poor 'Like' button is all bruised up 😆 🤣

[@skullfacelte7996]

CD yeah, but I think the like button has had enough...NAH

[@brandonwensel1790]

Same lol

[@barbarahomrighaus6852]

Maybe I'm just cynical and worn down, but I think all three can be explained by stranger abduction. While children would have a hard time covering that land, a determined adult could do it. The boy appearing in two places could be a team of adults. I'm so glad the little girl made it back but "bright all the time" isn't necessarily paranormal but could be a closed in, lit place that they were holding her. I do very much believe in angels and demons, good and evil around us but all too often the evil is carried out by an evil person.

[@nolongerjuicyboiz4413]

I don't understand why people act like children can't cover rough terrain. They are a lot lighter, a lot smaller, high upper body strength to weight ratio, flexible, etc... . If an untrained adult can do it, then a young child can probably do it even more easily. They can fit through gaps and use small ledges that adults can't even use. They can also be quite fearless. Lots of these though I think are mountain lions. It's animals that will kill you silently and carry you off up cliffs to caves.

[@heibai1173]

Agreed

[@heibai1173]

@@nolongerjuicyboiz4413 Yes, children can do incredible things, but usually not this AND in such short time. I agree with the mountain lion theory. They are incredibly stealthy and camouflaged.

[@usernametooshort8036]

Jarrod sounds like an abduction, Alfred sounds like a cougar or mountain lion got him, and Lillian sounds like she got away from would-be abductors.

[@simonspacek3670]

Agreed. Lillian sounds like something was wrong with her mind, either some drugs or some form of epilepsy.

[@liscatcat8756]

Why would you let you children go with strangers he'd just join the group they could of planned it and abduct the child , he knew nothing about them

[@caseygerszewski9543]

True Crime has taught me that serial killers will visit places they have killed someone. Could be the possible killer abducted the boy, climbed up, killed him, took the shoes and revisited years later leaving them there?

[@TheChelleyBear]

This was also our theory. The abductor could also place new shoes up there to commemorate their sickness.

[@rediron44]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@sneersh9107]

That's an interesting theory, only one i've heard that makes sense, there's no way the shoes could've been sitting out in the open for that like with no damage to them, especially white shoes which would certainly get dirty.

[@nataliesuper5836]

Best theory. They would also be watching conferences about the case. In a conference someone said something like, "if only we could find something of him. Even a tooth". Shortly after they found one of his teeth sitting on a log in an area that had been searched multiple times.

[@mcrane79ify]

his shoes were not tied and we dont know what material they were made out of. I think it was a cat that darted across the trail grabbing him and taking him up. If you have seen footage of big cats you can see how fast they can take prey up and the bones were spread around. Blood and all the gore would be gone after 4 years but the shoes would come off if they werent tied and if they are the plastic kid sneakers they can last. again we never saw photos and heard a third hand at least telling of the story

[@attackcrow5948]

You’re telling me you changed direction with someone else’s 6 and 3 year old without telling him especially miles away from the cabin

[@grracegrracy2730]

Exactly. WHO changed the plan?

[@Dram1984]

Who the heck let’s a bunch of strangers take their children anywhere?!

[@Yaboiwes_]

Mr. A is now my principal at a private school in Ohio. He told us about this is chapel today and it broke my heart. Everyone in the room was crying. The fact this was nationwide is baffling. He’s such an inspiration and it’s sad that someone like Mr. A had to go through this. Jaydn may I say Rest in God alone brother🙏🏻

[@MaskoftheWraith]

I love how he colour coordinates his hats to his shirts.

[@edwhite7078]

You gay

[@MrLowkeyDolo]

The man knows how to dress nice

[@MaskoftheWraith]

@@edwhite7078 Might be, might not be. What difference does it make?

[@edwhite7078]

@@MaskoftheWraith well fashion

[@MaskoftheWraith]

@@edwhite7078 So you think any man who has a good dress sense is gay? Lol

[@966Mako]

I’m absolutely staggered in these stories. How many “parents” “guardians” etc: let small children lag behind their groups. I just can’t fathom how “responsible” adults are letting a child be at the back of the pack, with nobody looking out for them. They all say “oh, I only took my eyes off him/her for a minute & they were gone” BULL💩 they were behind you & you weren’t watching them.

[@chickenmobile]

Went hiking a lot as a young kid with our parents. Dad always was first and mum was last so we would always follow the trail.

[@iatecinderella]

I ALWAYS think about this in these stories! My daughter (2) has a playroom which is in front of the living room so I can see directly in (it's very safe in there), depending on where I am sitting, and even then, I still go and check on her every 5 minutes and that's in my own house lmao

[@kcoker9189]

Kids are adventurous, and fast. It's common for little kids, especially toddlers, to want to wander off. And if you're not watching them like a hawk, they can get away from you in the blink of an eye.

[@agarrigue002]

@@kcoker9189 Yeah, it's crazy how you would be inclined to believe children are an easy catch and so even if they get a few seconds of head start you can catch up to them easily and even though it's partially true, they won't outrun you or anything, they are damn quick and will hide. Also, they are determined. They don't second guess themselves in the slightest (especially younger kids). If they've set their mind to do something, they will and they will do it now. If they see a pretty flower in the woods or a cute caterpillar they WILL go toward it and they will go there fast. It will take 10 seconds for them to go down or up in the woods and lose sight of you. Even if you are looking at them every minute or so, it's plenty of time for them to get distracted and off a trail and you basically have to backtrack and hope you see them near the trail otherwise you are in for a bad day or worse. They are like dogs, only slower but also less prone to listen and come back when you call them so treat them accordingly and don't let them out of your sight.

[@misskim2058]

I wrote an almost identical comment. They sure as hell wouldn’t let their child lag behind if that were a suitcase with $1 million in it instead. Shows where their values are. I see it in parking lots and grocery stores and other public places all the time. All that does is scream to the world that they don’t care if their child is taken, and that’s how a perpetrator will see it. Just like in the wild, you let your child wander away from your protection, you can expect a predator to snag it.

[@xiongjieduan698]

My opinion is it’s just negligence on the part of the adults, they ALWAYS say “ I only looked away for a second” but knowing full well, they were not paying any attention to their kid at all. Whenever you are in the woods with your kids, ALWAYS keep them in front of you and keep an eye on them at all times… if they go missing, it’s your fault…

[@thecarman3693]

Yes. The only 'evidence' we have as to them disappearing in a flash is someone's testimony.

[@misfitmolly8308]

Love the moving backgrounds, it really brings you into the story.

[@screamingtima1318]

I wonder if the fishermen that spoke to Jaryd the day he vanished, were questioned in length. It’s really strange that two grown men would let a 3 year old wander off by himself. I went and read about this case and there are many strange things about this. Very sad and disturbing.

[@JohnjOcampo]

Its the part that infuriates me the most, you don't see a child in the woods and just ignore him, wth is wrong with people. I bet they had something to do with it.

[@benlevan5645]

I feel I must agree. The only theory I can come up with is that someone overhead Jaryd asking about the bears and followed when he left the fishermen. This person told Jaryd they could take him to see some bears, hauled him up to that outcropping and...

[@billymanilli]

I doubt the men "had something to do with it", b/c if they had, I would think they'd just have denied ever seeing him... but, I agree, it is pretty screwed up that they let the little guy wander back off by himself.

[@Roth2775]

@@JohnjOcampo it is strange that the group of people left Jaryd wander alone in the wilderness. they should be blamed...not the 2 fisherman who saw Jary and the group

[@heathernygaard5517]

I thought this was strange too. Like what if they had said "yeah we saw some bears just south of here!" And then a 3 yr old goes skipping off in that direction?? Weird

[@Euqkra]

I love this guy he tells the best scary stories

[@zaidenc8696]

you must not know mr nightmare

[@kaydon9979]

Zaiden Cisneros mr nightmare doesn’t give this much detail though

[@Euqkra]

Zaiden Cisneros I just checked him out and he’s actually really good I’ve heard of him but I never took the time to listen to his stuff but I think mr nightmare and me ballen are the same to me

[@tonythornton2116]

This dude tells stories so well very articulate very well done and told...You Rock MRBALLEN Keep Posting!!

[@natatron]

The first one absolutely breaks my heart! I have a 3 year old son. Those people were beyond stupid for taking him on an 11 mile hike and should be charged with negligence. That poor boy probably climbed up on the path and stayed there thinking he would get rescued.

[@rickc2102]

Ballen: "I'm gonna upload 3-4 / week" Also Ballen: uploads 5-6 / week

[@alexcassell2829]

2nd story... The cops need more training. When you have gone through all the possible theories, you are left with the impossible. They should have searched where the dogs stopped more thoroughly.

[@devinbelver7124]

I agree with you. However dogs can be wrong, or pick up different scents. I think cops typically have to search the most logical and simplest areas first. It's easy to say, go look other places as well. But looking other places means to shrink the immediate area search. And they did eventually go up that cliff the dogs led to, but found nothing at that time. I always hate when they don't follow dogs all the way. In another missing 411, they followed a dog 8 miles straight to the missing child.

[@burnttoast9081]

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth.

[@denimvelvet4670]

Seems to be a somewhat common theme in some of these stories. Dog: Here! Here! Went this way! Handler: What!? Bad dog! Impossible! Children can't do this! I need a new dog!

[@Hieroglyphs4Real]

Why would someone see a small child come forward on a cliff and then get pulled back and hear him shrieking??!!! Why didnt he spring into action to find out immediately what he could do??? God bless these children...and their beloved families.

[@DawnMK2023]

Mountain lions are a thing. And territorial. Humans are soft and weak. Poking your head blindly over a ledge after seeing something like that would give anyone pause; you can't help anyone if you're dead.

[@MsTemptation]

So you expected him to just run head first into danger without an actual plan Stop watching action movies because they’re nothing like real life.

[@GmaT1776]

Well shame on the 11 christian singles group who ask the children come along and said they were going to one place and went to another that was really unbelievable to take two children to that area😳👎🏽

[@jamesfaster8944]

It was criminal !

[@Catlady-wr9tg]

They should have been charged. That’s kidnapping because the dad didn’t approve of it.

[@kevindflowers234]

If you think THOSE christians are bad.... Wait till you hear about the crusade ones...

[@LaB567]

Totally agree. It was completely irresponsible and so reckless. Presuming responsibility of someone else’s very small children on rugged terrain, without even telling the parent.

[@lorasaltis4134]

Eleven christian singles... there's a whole lot of addiction and dysfunction there.

[@UnderBluMoon]

Some of these stories reminds me of the local folklore my grandparents would tell me when I was young. My grandparents were Micronesians and lived on a remote island in the pacific ocean with no electricity with the rest of their sons and daughters(and grandkids). My parents and I lived on a different island occupied by the US military, and a few times a year we would visit my grandparents on their island. At night my grandpa and I would lay on a tatami mat in the yard area and he would retell folklore while we gazed at the stars. One story that I remember in particular was a cautionary tale for children. Its a story about "Demons/Monsters" as the locals understood it, there were two types of these "demons" one good and one bad and they preyed on young children. These creatures had the ability to hide in plain sight, apparently they could shapeshift into trees, animals, rocks, etc. and would single out lone children. If the good "demon" found you, it would spirit you away to its "world" and take care of you for a while before returning you to your people. If the bad "demon" found you it would spirit you away and consume you. I just find it strange that this folklore seems oddly similar to what is happening to these kids in North America, considering the Micronesians live in such an isolated location with its own set of superstitious beliefs.

[@lawrencemorris2261]

Hahaha "micronesians" hahaha No disrespect though.

[@KASSashley643]

This is how fae are described too, some people think alien abductions are really just this, what you described, but instead of demons its faeries, and the faerie world they go too

[@papakurt4162]

It is perplexing how many mythologies and legends all over the world seem to include a similar presence in forrests. It really makes you think. Tens of thousands of years have gone by where humanity has built up civilizations, where we have slowly lost the need to truly understand the forrests that surround our cities and towns. That I believe is a contributing factor to this phenomenon, another being how much our record keeping has improved in modern times and the fact that records and knowledge from previous ages are mostly lost to us. We as a society put so much stock into the scientific method, most average people seem to neglect the holes, the anomalies, and even basic truths. For as advanced as we think we are, we can't even reliably find a child who has gotten lost in the wilderness. What masters of mother nature we are, for as many tricks we have as humanity; mother nature holds all the cards.

[@ANDYWOUNDSABRXS]

Your grandparents are tiny asians? like, dwarf Asians?

[@saimarama4391]

@@ANDYWOUNDSABRXS haha. I don't remember who it was but some explorer dude decided they would split up the islands of the South Pacific into categories based on skin colour/hair texture etc. We are Micronesian: fair skinned and straight hair; Melanesian: dark skin, curly hair and Polynesian: mid tones with straight hair. 🏝🤙🏾

[@buggaboo1573]

I heard these stories many time from different people! Still gives me the chills that a poor child was hurt or lost.

[@brendan6747]

Hearing back-to-back stories about kids getting dragged off and eaten by mountain lions is kinda makin me hungry

[@michaeldavisarnold5589]

It is sad how as adults we are so distrusting that if someone gave a small piece of information it gets dismissed. Alfred could have been found if they didn't dismiss it right away

[@masterreaper115]

no i really doubt that. the scent vanished...that doesnt happen. Like for that to happen it usually means the scent trail is degraded by time/weather which it wasnt, or the person whent rhough a body of water to get rid of that scent which they didnt. scent trails dont vanish like that. ITs like the kid got up there and teleported to the other out cropping or something crazy like that

[@thomaskearney8334]

That has to be the absolute worst feeling in the world of losing your child without a trace. I couldn't live with that

[@sh1927]

Everyone thinks that. It never goes away; your body keeps living, even when you think your heart will surely stop from the pain.

[@starletsears8827]

Thank you so much for posting these strange, dark and mysterious videos. You are the ABSOLUTE best😁 I'm honestly Obsessed😅

[@kenwalter3892]

Mr Ballen, you are the absolute best KZbinr of this format, and quite possibly the best content provider......period.

[@debbiehenri345]

First one - What were those people thinking of, letting a 3 year old run off ahead in terrain like that? In fact, never let a young child run off out of sight in any type of terrain: rural or built-up. It doesn't even matter if they know the place really well either. Children of that age are completely unpredictable. They will find play in anything, anywhere, one day preferring to stay with you and hold your hand, the next day quite capable of running off a cliff edge in pursuit of a hovering seagull. You can't take your eyes off them, and you can't give stewardship of them to other people whose child-rearing skills might not be as good as your own. The second case: Alfred never climbed 'either' of those two 500ft heights. I'm betting he was snapped up by a predator tracking the family. I wouldn't be surprised if Alfred didn't even wander off the trail, unsupervised and left further behind, it would be easy for a predator to pick him off- only in this instance it knocked him 'unconscious' rather than killed him outright, and then carried him off up the first height where the dogs later scented him. It's often the way of predators to take their prey to higher ground to eat in peace, just as it's their habit of using such places as lookout posts to spot prey in the first place. (There are several tree stumps in my woods where raptors clearly eat their kills on a regular basis. From a predator's perspective, these stumps give a good view to both look out for prey - and where it can eat without being surprised by another predator planning on stealing/fighting for the kill). Hearing humans coming in pursuit of Alfred, the predator thought it would be disturbed and carried his still unconscious body down, probably taking a different route to the ground maybe picking up the boy in a different position (which explains why the dogs didn't detect any other scent path). Able to carry him easily, the predator took Alfred to the other 500ft height where the boy regained consciousness and was seen briefly by the hiker before the predator dragged him back from the edge of the cliff and killed him outright. The boy's bones will probably be found around there.

[@AhranMaoDante]

No predator capable of climbing would "knock out" prey lagging behind, then quickly and quietly drag it up a 500ft rocky slope. About the only predators with a concept for "knocking out" prey are Primates or Cetaceans. And the only normal predator in that area capable of scaling that rocky slop quickly and quietly would be a puma, which would break the neck of it's prey.

[@giftedfox4748]

​@@AhranMaoDante What about bears? They like to eat their prey alive and they are able to climb. With how hard they can swipe you, it will be easy for them to knock you out unconscious and just eat you right there.

[@AhranMaoDante]

@@giftedfox4748 They aren't pack animals, and they don't howl.

[@jennifer7648]

I would never let strangers take my kids anywhere in the first place!!

[@larrybrown1864]

Maybe a human predator not any other. Dont even say bear thats absolutely insane.

[@sunshinemarie2703]

Just found MrB last week... how did I live without him? I slept for 6 hours straight after falling asleep to his scary story skillz for the first time since my time overseas...10 FREEKING YEARS AGO!! 1000 thank yous ❤️🇺🇸❤️

[@ingloriousbetch4302]

Jaryd's location was no mystery in how he got there. It was considered extremely likely it was a mountain lion, and they travel many miles. There had been an 18-year-old and a 10-year-old killed by them in the few years before that. The 'Christian singles' group was incredibly negligent. Seems they were more focused on hanging out than the kids they promised they were 'just taking to the hatchery.' They not only lied to the dad outright, but a mountain lion would not have attempted to get him if he was within the group. It was only because they let him wander that he was able to be taken. Mountain lions look for outliers. They practically handed that poor baby over to it.

[@muhammadscott1488]

Why would a mountain lion take him to two different cliffs 500 feet up? He was spotted twice on two different mountains and why were his shoes in perfect condition? If he was being dragged they would have fallen off or been damaged. One of the times he was spotted on one of the mountains he looked down at someone before being taken out of sight. If it was an animal they wouldn't let him get up at all they would just drag him up and finish him not take him on a tour. If he was attacked by an animal there would probably be blood as well. Also if he was attacked he would have screamed no doubt for as long as he could. Idk it just doesn't add up.

[@LogLordOG]

@@muhammadscott1488 agreed, and his pants being inside out. They must’ve been taken off. If all of his clothes were taken off he may have been kidnapped and assaulted.

[@1sttimemom76]

@@LogLordOG "Mountain lion" "Pervert" "pedophiles" " Serial killer". It still remains the same. They were negligent in caring for and watching him.

[@riflebear1711]

It's absurd to think that a mou tain lion would snatch him with nobody realizing. And what explanation is there for the shoes?

[@LogLordOG]

@@1sttimemom76 the outcome in his death is the same yes but if there really are people kidnapping children like this it needs attention whereas an animal attack is simple negligence

[@ineedanewname9595944]

I have to say that I've watched several of these from you, and it's just weird!! I guess some could have been taken by bears or mountain lions, but some of these are just crazy! Aliens, spirits? I dont know, but it is definitely weird!!!! Thanks for sharing! You are a great storyteller!!

[@kylerose6612]

Alyn atadero was my gym teacher and me and all my friends always felt bad for him and his son it's just so sad.

[@doubleboy2388]

As a big David Paulides fan, whose been listening to him for years. It's great that Mr Ballen has taken his work and shown it to a new demographic. People need to know what's going on, how many mysterious unexplained things are happening in the wilderness. No major main media outlets touch this subject. It's being intentionally silenced for some reason.

[@klaudiajulius6742]

He has done a great job giving credit to Paulides and his work. Drums up fresh new content for the youngens. Do you by any chance know where I can watch Paulides’ videos? I purchased two of his books internationally because it is impossible to go into a book store and find it here in Aus I had to get them from amazon and just hope for the best. I can’t get enough of these... and yes!! 👏🏾👏🏾 I thought so as well! Why no media coverage and when I found out the forest police people ( idk what y’all call them in USA 😂) don’t even have a data base for the people who have gone missing?? I was floored! So many have gone missing and you don’t document it at all? You don’t investigate? It’s so so strange right?

[@deladrin2.0]

Klaudia Julius They’re right here on KZbin. Go to the channel “KZbin Movies” and search Missing 411. Both should come up. Missing 411 is the first and Missing 411 The Hunted is the second.

[@theoptimist7510]

That's because it involves the biblical giants and the spiritual realm......2 things we are told, doesn't exist.

[@carlindurfee7566]

Klaudia Julius look up canam missing project that is David paulides channel. It stands for Canadian American missing project

[@carlindurfee7566]

Yeah it’s crazy, they put on local news when the person goes missing but after a week or two all news stops and then they usually don’t follow up and never discuss the actual phenomenon and how it is global and happens in clusters in certain areas. They don’t want to alarm people but people should be aware of the dangers of the wildlife, etc in the woods but still enjoy nature but be safe! God bless

[@PrayThenBreathe1528]

I love these David Paulide’s stories!!

[@gabriellejames4883]

Oh my word, this poor baby 😭 being a mom of a 4 and 7 year old, this is the absolute worst fear for every parent. It angers me about the group who lost him. They were reckless, careless and should be held responsible. I personally would NEVER allow my children go nor would I want them out of my sight.

[@Soren_Da_Boy]

basically dont look where the child goes missing just look in the wrong place

[@arat2771]

I do that whenever I lose something... *"Okay we've look in all the logic places....time to go look behind the microwave that's attached to the wall....YO WTF WHY ARE MY KEYS BACK HERE?!"*

[@tamijocampbell4629]

Someone took him up there to "see the bears" and removed his clothes and had all the privacy in the world. Omg I cant even finish that thought. ..........

[@rociorerz7931]

Agree, also gathering a big search party look day and night. They will let them go, seems what ever it is doesn’t want ppl lurking around to long.

[@tracybrown2482]

Every time the children are involved I get so anxious and depressed!

[@PiXieDesiderata]

Great video as always! I would love to buy the books but they are so expensive 😭😭😭

[@kellrae4163]

We've been listening to Mr. Ballen on our commute every morning for the past 2 years. At least. I think it's safe to say that We've heard every single story multiple times. But every once in a while, we happen across one we haven't heard yet. When that happens, it's as if we are starting the best day ever every time!!

[@shanehenderson630]

With the last story of the missing girl in Maine she said that the sun was shining all the time..... this reminds me of the "Skinwalker Ranch" story when the guy was using his binoculars to look at the figure crawling out of the orb or dimension "gateway" it was said that inside the gateway, it looked like a sunny beautiful day! 🤔 I just find that odd

[@pumkin610]

There was a story about these green children, in their world it was always sunset I think-

[@Ironashman26]

@@pumkin610 do you have a link to this story?

[@pumkin610]

@@Ironashman26 no but it is sort of a legend that has history and lineage, they came from the land or saint martin i think? It should be easy to find something about it. There is a theory about why its always sunset in their world, its a planet that is tidal locked, tidally locked?

[@Ironashman26]

@@pumkin610 oh, i saw all the history on the Green Children, but I assumed it wasn't the same and so I skipped all those articles. How cool that there's so much depth to it! Ok thanks!!

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

@@Ironashman26 Search here on KZbin... There are a lot of videos about this subject...

[@Hungryforapples]

Allen was my middle school gym coach, he was one of the nicest people I’ve ever met

[@paulc2138]

Honestly….thats cool !

[@Microbit0]

Did he make you do dark, strange and mysterious exercises?

[@itsybitsyblondie457]

@@Microbit0 shut up

[@Microbit0]

@@itsybitsyblondie457 was that a yes?? 😂 He's super cool tho

[@saylersix3661]

Love love LOVE your stories!!!

[@dejuanmcclellan5850]

I watch this guy everyday all day tryna catch up on all the video keep it up Mr Ballen 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾

[@believeroftheword4627]

I subbed early in the channel. I had no clue Mr. Ballen has a big social media presence. I thought everyone else noticed what I see...a down to earth, gifted storyteller. Congrats on the growing channel! I enjoy your stories during my brain breaks from work.

[@MrBallen]

Thanks a ton!!

[@yurkiomin6524]

Believer of the Word do you think he looks like luke from the gilmore girls??? I dont know if you know that show

[@lucassmith1886]

I know! Me too. And I was thinking to myself, "holy snap this guy's channel is growing like insanely fast." And then I hear how big he is on other platforms. I will still give it to him though, he has tickled KZbin's giblets juuuuust right in regards to the algorithm, because holy smokes his channel has grown so effing fast it's not even funny. One of the fastest growing channels I've EVER seen on here seriously

[@believeroftheword4627]

@@yurkiomin6524 I see it now! 😍

[@believeroftheword4627]

@@lucassmith1886 It's clear in his personality that Mr. Ballen is a nice guy. It's great to see a nice guy get a win. I hope he hits a million followers by September!

[@izzy14ful]

I just realized that him making eye contact through the lens with you makes him almost hypnotic when hearing his stories

[@alexispaxson-morgan5386]

This is the most accurate comment I've ever read. ♡

[@shameikasmith2910]

EXACTLY this...

[@battle6289]

Hearing the old theme song is crazy, I forgot it sounded like that lol (I’m rewatching the whole Mr.Ballen catalogue again)

[@cathypethers9732]

Love the way you explain these mysterious events,.

[@thehappygamer5020]

Alan would never trust anybody with his baby again, and I don't blame him. They said they were going to a certain place and didn't. It's their fault.

[@void5239]

100%

[@icantthinkofaname15]

Yep exactly. I'd be pissed

[@daerdevvyl4314]

Not only that, but they didn’t even seem to keep an eye on him at all.

[@Roth2775]

sure, but it doesn't matter in the end who's fault it is.... your kid is gone! and I'm pretty sure the dead blames himself the most !