$300 Technivorm Moccamaster VS $20 Mr Coffee Maker Comparison WHICH ONE MAKES THE BEST COFFEE?

[@ritasokol646]

We love our Moccamaster. It is recommended to use fresh ground coffee, medium to coarse grind. The coffee is hot and delicious. The technology in which the water is released is unique in itself. Well worth the money.

[@JustADad]

yep I agree I love mine also.

[@adriand6477]

@@JustADad Love these comparissons, not all items at these distinct price points are worth it always however in this case when it comes to these two machines.. There is a difference and definetely worth it!

[@JoseCastillo-ol8eh]

Nada especial en esa moccamaster simplemente buenos materiales y buena calidad pero nada especial en la preparación del café.

[@TheWpruden]

I'm just like you, for years I had a couple $30 coffee brewers. Almost 2 years ago I purchased the moccamaster. Same results!!! Consistent water temperatures, and I use filtered water and delime every 100 brews. I've done tons of research. It's basically the same coffee brewer from 1968!!! Minor upgrades. That's incredible by any means!!!!

[@JustADad]

Wow they have been making these for a long time.

[@briancuello3019]

It’s fun watching you get more and more into coffee reminds me of my coffee journey

[@JustADad]

Thanks for you continued support!!! Reading your comments just puts a big smile on my face!!

[@oilwings]

I love my 2 Moccamasters, the 10 cup version and cup one version

[@ronbpenn]

Very helpful thank you! Just bought the Moccamaster

[@hastingb]

I picked up a Hamilton Beach drip coffee maker for abut the same price as the Mr Coffee. It had to be replace twice due to tank leaks. (I had bought an extended warranty) Now I'm on my third unit and I've been looking at the Moccamaster. It's got so many great reviews and I'm done tossing these cheap coffee makers in to a landfill. Thank you for the side by side comparison.

[@edwinatwell7423]

Buy once cry once. I got a moccamaster, it's super solid. And I've met people who've had 1 moccamaster for longer than I've been alive.

[@kemalcan1352]

Very technical, right on spot comparison why Moccamaster is different! Thanks!

[@erikat6272]

This video justified my Christmas gift to myself of a Moccamaster. Can’t wait for it to arrive!

[@JustADad]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@coocooforcoffee4248]

Great video, short, simple and straight to the point. I’m really thinking about investigating in a moccamaster. Thanks!

[@JustADad]

They are nice,

[@bobdonaldson445]

Moccamaster is superior and makes a great cup of coffee. I just give a little stir mid way into the brew. That’s it. Not a big deal. I have the Select which makes a difference on smaller batches. Hot plate is just right too. Doesn’t cook your coffee.

[@JustADad]

Good to know!

[@orrinbelcher6593]

What a great video, very impressive review and very informative. Appreciate the temperature test in the brew basket and in the poured cup. Also taste test black and cream and sugar. Superbly done and great fun watch the coffee makers brewing at the same time.

[@JustADad]

Thanks so much for your kind words!!!! Thanks for your continued support!!!

[@squebler]

Awesome video, dude! Yeah, the speed and smooth flavor from the Moccamaster is what shocked me, and got me interested. I was at this company, and they had one, which I had never seen before, and it was so fast! So I decided to go out and look for one, and the price tag shocked me too; but I figured it was gonna be a heck of a lot cheaper than going to starbucks every morning. I'm curious about the lid on the carafe. I wonder if it really makes a difference. I figure it's probably gonna keep the coffee warmer, while it's dripping in; but again, not sure how much of a difference that makes. Also, just a side note; their thermal carafe is amazing. I prefer the glass carafe, because I can see how clean and fresh it is, and I think it's easier to clean; but the thermal carafe keeps the coffee very warm for hours! Another nice thing about the Moccamaster is that I can make just 3 cups of coffee, and it's stronger, so I don't have to waste as much coffee. 3 cups is about 16 oz; so it's pretty much a single serving of a Starbucks Grande size. I can't drink as much coffee these days, because I have a migraine problem; so being able to do a single serve like this is nice. But in fairness, I think you'll get that benefit from any cone-style coffee maker; and you can get em for probably like $40-$60. ** Another thing I love about the Moccamaster is how accessible and cleanable it is. Like, most coffee makers, the water resevoir is hard to get into, if you wanted to wipe it out . Also, there's not a lot of nooks and cranies that are difficult to clean. And they way they designed the lid on the glass carafe makes it really easy to pop off and clean it properly. ** I also like Mr. Coffee's cheap makers. They were my favorite for many years, because they were the first ones I found that had a shower that didn't spray you in the face when you open the lid; and their carafe didn't spill and dribble like many others did.

[@Customgamer1]

That switch on the Mocamaster is for half pot or full pot brew, half pot with a full thing of water will brew little slower. Might change the taste. You should play around with it.

[@Millerz-gd9bo]

That’s only the select model. This video doesn’t show the select. He’s correct that the right hand switch is for the warmer plate temp on this model.

[@efanshel]

I've owned both, moccamaster was a gift. The moccamaster is better, but there are other factors. I microwave a half inch of half and half and then pour in the coffee. I use preground peet's coffee from costco, and I make sure I clean everything a lot. So would I spend 10 x? Frankly no...And preground is fine, because it doesn't last long in my house...

[@joegilbody4878]

I do exactly the same thing.

[@mt-nv4jd]

Pour water into MrC, and turn the shower head to the rear, and turn it on to recirculate and pre heat the water. Use 18:1 ratio. When the water coming out of the shower head gets to 190+, put the shower head over the grounds. Do not put the carafe in yet. Cover the grounds with water, and put the shower head back to the recirculate and let the grounds bloom 30 seconds. stir the grounds. Put the shower head back over the grounds and the carafe on the warmer. When it stops gurgling water, turn off the MrC. When it stops dripping pour into thermos. It will be much better coffee. ...Or you can spend $350 on the MM.

[@squebler]

lol, awesome

[@fredbloggs6080]

It seems neither of the spray arms is well positioned or designed to distribute the water evenly over grinds in the filter, especially the Mr. Coffee. *Coffeehaus* has recently designed a prototype alternative spray arm for the Technivorm Moccamaster, which they are selling at cost now, which they ultimately plan to produce in stainless steel. It provides a larger circular sprayhead with more holes which will be centered over the grinds to improve water distribution, and hence, flavor--most of the aficionados feel they have to stir the grinds with the existing spray arm. The title of the KZbin video explaining what they did it is: *We fixed the only issue with the Moccamaster...*

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Has anybody done a true blind test between a cup made with the stock outlet arm, versus an 'improved' design, of any kind? I'm wondering if this is a case of thinking that something _should_ be a certain way, without having the necessary test data that proves it. It's an obsessive hobby.

[@fredbloggs6080]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I don't think that KZbin channel guy ever continued with this project--he didn't answer further questions about orders for the finished product and never posted anything about it that I know of. However I did someone in Canada who goes where they name *CoffeePilots* who makes hey clever well constructed spray head insert that fits flat perfectly on top of the filter basket and redistributes is the water evenly over the grinds. I purchased one that after my first comment, and it works very well, but I also changed the brewing method based on my experimentation. I have the Select model Moccamaster, and brew one half carafe with the selector set appropriately. With the spray head insert in place, I leave the carafe out and allow the water to build up in the basket--at first I settled on 40 seconds before putting the carafe back to allow it to start draining--now I'm doing 58 seconds. It may depend on your coffee and the grind. I don't stir it. So it really becomes a combo of some sort of pour over and drip, I guess. But I can tell you it brews much better coffee that way. That's one of the things people like about the Moccamaster, that one can intervene and tweak the brewing in various ways because of its open design. Once I discover what produces the the best coffee for me it is pretty much the same thing every time. Of course, the finess of the grind makes a big difference too, and parameters may have to be changed a little for different coffees. I would not say that straight out of the box the Moccamaster is better than a number of other coffeemakers. It's not so much a matter obsession, but of having spent a lot of money for the machine and then discovering that design from the factory is not optimal or as good as it could or should be, and trying to optimize it, which, because of its modular design, it lends itself to..

[@chookchack]

Under extracted. Thats how you would describe that cheap coffee maker. It’s not saturating the whole bed. If thats a quality single origin coffee beans, it’s wasting half of its flavors going to the trash.

[@rashasarandah1695]

Is the moccamaster the smoothest coffee from a machine you have? I don’t need fancy buttons and price is not a huge issue right now. My ninja is bitter tasting to me and I need something smoother. What’s your top 2?

[@JustADad]

Smoother but still bitter to me

[@JustADad]

Cold brew helps take away some bitterness

[@rashasarandah1695]

@@JustADad so is the moccamaster your smoothest pot? What about bonavita?

[@katzparov]

If you have the Moccamaster with the 3 setting brew basket which sits on a Round base, you can easily swivel the basket to different positions throughout the brew cycle for a more even saturation. Or you can just do that at the very beginning to evenly wet the grounds, then leave it alone. I tend to swivel the basket throughout. It only takes 5 minutes or so to brew a full pot, so it really doesn't take up too much of my time while I'm doing other things in the kitchen. Simply reach over every so often and reposition the basket. I do find that without any hands on assistance, that the water from the Moccamster tends to burrow a divit into the grounds. Swiveling makes a huge difference. A little shake of the basket and tap flattens the bed during the final drawdown. If the showerhead was longer, reaching out to the middle of the basket, then swiveling would not do much since the water would be pouring right over the middle. I don't know how well a longer showerhead would perform without it being wider than what they now do provide. Now, a wider and longer showerhead might do the trick.

[@JustADad]

Thanks for the tips!

[@katzparov]

@@JustADad Since you were not using the brew basket with the round bottom, you won't be able to swivel the basket, however gently using a spoon the spread the water across the surface of the water will also work quite well. I make sure that I don't disturb the entire coffee grounds, although some do stir. Stirring too much may cause the filter to get clogged with the fine coffee grounds. Also, gently pulling the coffee grounds off of the upper part of the filter down into the rest of the water with a spoon helps too.

[@JustADad]

@@katzparov Great idea!

[@gevobekyan6729]

Can you please try moving the Mr. Coffee head into the closed position then turn it on, let it cycle hot water into the tank, then move it over the coffee. I really would like to know the temperature difference.

[@JustADad]

I will try to do that in one of my upcoming videos.

[@juggernaut316]

Moccamaster just needs to extend their showerhead a bit more to get even saturation, and it'd be perfect.

[@JustADad]

Yeah I agree

[@TheWpruden]

Agree, but still is top great tasting cup whether you stir grinds or not! Stirring grinds make it slightly stronger. Fine as is. No more staring for me.

[@katzparov]

If you have the Moccamaster with the 3 setting brew basket which sits on a Round base, you can easily swivet the basket to different positions throughout the brew cycle for a more even saturation. Or you can just do that at the very beginning to evenly wet the grounds, then leave it alone. I tend to swivel the basket throughout. It only takes 5 minutes or so to brew a full pot, so it really doesn't take up too much of my time while I'm doing other things in the kitchen. Simply reach over every so often and reposition the basket. I do find that without any hands on assistance, that the water from the Moccamster tends to burrow a divit into the grounds. Swiveling makes a huge difference. A little shake of the basket and tap flattens the bed during the final drawdown. If the showerhead was longer, reaching out to the middle of the basket, then swiveling would not do much since the water would be pouring right over the middle. I don't know how well a longer showerhead would perform without it being wider than what they now do provide. Now, a wider and longer showerhead might do the trick.

[@az5654]

Your next big step up in flavor is to start grinding your own coffee beans.

[@JustADad]

yep just started to. what do you recommend for grinder and what coffee brand of beans?

[@az5654]

@@JustADad I had a Baratza Solis that lasted me over 20-years. I stayed with the same brand and recently bought a Baratza Vario. It does coarse and fine grind well enough for me. As far as beans go, I’ve been using a lot of French Roast. It’s a darker, oily bean and I enjoy the full-body flavor. Unlike the standard MoccaMaster Technivorm recipes out there (1-liter water to 60-grams of coffee), I do 1-liter of water to 40-grams of coarse grind. For me, it’s the perfect ratio. But, as with everything coffee, personal preference will drive your recipes. Enjoy the journey!

[@JustADad]

@@az5654 Wow thanks that is some good information. Thanks so much I have a lot to learn and you have helped me so much.

[@Versul1]

​@@az5654 yep very happy with my Baratza as well. Thought I had a decent grinder until my wife bought me one for Christmas.

[@JoseCastillo-ol8eh]

Seria bueno que lo remueva el cafe en ambas maquinas

[@fredbloggs6080]

Does the newer Cuisinart DCC 3200, which gets the water hotter than they DCC 1200 that you show, have a different type of heating ailment than the aluminum one of the DCC 1200? I believe you can set three different temperatures of hot plate independently of the water temperature on that the DCC 3200. I don't like the idea of water being heated up in aluminum. You rarely see aluminum cookware anymore unless it has a layer of something else on the side the food touches.

[@alpsskiman]

If you really want to see an impressive coffee bloom in your Moccamaster, buy some freshly roasted whole bean coffee and grind it fresh just before brewing. The bloom will form a bit of a dome over the ground coffee.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Does that make it taste better, or just look cooler on the instagrams?

[@alpsskiman]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Fresher coffee typically tastes better.

[@pfvogt]

Big bunn fan? Me too, brother!

[@mv28]

You have a Moccamaster but you buy pre-ground Great Value coffee?

[@JustADad]

It was really good.

[@krehbein]

That mr coffee outs out a sad little puddle at the far end of the coffee. 😂

[@JustADad]

Thanks for watching

[@zcmdzpp127]

If you can’t tell by the taste then why does it matter..lol

[@JustADad]

good point

[@mrmusiclover4178]

I wouldn't buy either of those horrible machines with hotplates to ruin perfectly good coffee! I take my coffee seriously. I grind my own beans each time, and use a vacuum carafe which can keep the coffee hot for hours. I dislike pre-ground coffee.

[@michaelwilliams5506]

Heh, I've never heard anyone say a moccamaster is a horrible coffee machine.

[@lordvader6512]

There's a carafe version of the moccamaster. I have both.

[@mrmusiclover4178]

@@michaelwilliams5506 No coffeemaker with a hotplate would be bought by me, no matter the brand

[@gilbert2303]

technivorm vs ninja? Is the technivorm better?

[@JustADad]

Great Question. If you just want a pot of coffee then Technivorm, the ninja is almost just as good tasting, but you get so many more options, for sizes and brew option.

[@weho_brian]

you sure its not a $300 placebo?

[@JustADad]

Good point, I thought that at first, but when grind my own coffee and brew it in the moccamaster it does make a better cup of coffee. But I always stand by what I say, is it work spending and extra 100 to $200 more for this coffee maker, that I am just not sure if the improvement in the coffee is work that extra cost. thanks for watching and good point

[@weho_brian]

@@JustADad I'm undecided between this, the breville, or keep going starbucks 4 days a week. I've had the mr coffee and for some reason it taste and feels like $20 coffee machine. I know that this machine is better, but is it $300 better? what if I just bought better coffee beans and used it in the mr coffeee? so many choices?!!?!!!

[@JustADad]

@@weho_brian That might be just as good

[@relaxalways3704]

100% not placebo. You have not drank coffee until you use one of these and some fresh beans

[@katzparov]

I had a Cuisinart 12 cup (At 5 ounces per cup markings on the carafe) However, I usually ignore the carafe or reservoir marking and just go according to a scale. The Moccamaster's water measurement markings on the reservoir are at a cup equallng only 4 ounces. However, the 4 ounce markings are actually a little more than 4 ounces. Again, just go accodring to a scale and easily weigh your water and coffee beans. Or simply use a measuring cup and tablespoon coffee scoop. So, based on 42 ounces of water used in a Cuisinart, the brew cycle takes around 9 to 10 minutes or so to brew while the Moccamaster takes around 5 to 6 minutes for the same amount of water to disperse. That 4 to 5 minutes of extra contact time between the water and coffee grounds tends to drastically over extract your coffee making it more bitter.

[@toprankin1973]

You're right in saying the $20 Mr Coffee has a nicer carafe. The Mccamater has the cheapest glass carafe known to man. Pathetic for a $360 machine.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

That must be where they make their profits, because their stainless steel (with glass lining) carafes seem quite nice.

[@pepzi_]

My wife think known brands are always best, so I gave her a Moccamaster for her birthday. I usually think "brands" are just overpriced, but man, once you go Moccamaster, nothing else I've tried will do! Dyson branded things though.. I'll never ever give her any of that overprices piece of junk ;) Prove me wrong and make her the happiest wife ever. Needs thorough proof though that any of their products are better :)

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

It depends... I've never seen a Technivorm ad on the TV.

[@richardr2238]

This is like comparing a VW to a Cadillac, C'mon now the Mr Coffee is for college students and people on low income. The Mocha Master is for those who can afford it ! But, I STILL wouldn't put that " LEGO" inspired contraption on my counter, and it uses a heated PLASTIC water tank , for 350 bucks ? NO thanks ! 😟