$379 CHINS 12V 100Ah "Plus" LiFePO4

[@WillProwse]

Due to inflation, the price is changing every few weeks. Check the price here (affiliate links): 12V 100Ah: chins-battery.myshopify.com/collections/chins/products/12v-100ah-lithium-battery-built-in-100a-bms-2000-cycles-each-battery-can-support-1280w-power-output-perfect-for-rv-caravan-solar-marine-home-storage-and-off-grid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does off-grid solar confuse you? Check out my DIY friendly website for solar system packages and product recommendations, and so much more! www.mobile-solarpower.com Join our DIY solar community! #1 largest solar forum on the internet for beginners and professionals alike: www.diysolarforum.com Check out my best-selling, beginner-friendly 12V off-grid solar book (affiliate link): amzn.to/2Aj4dX4 If DIY is not for you, but you love solar and need an offgrid system, check out Tesla Solar. Low prices and great warranty, and they can take your entire house offgrid with their new Powerwalls: ts.la/william57509 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My solar equipment recommendations (Constantly updated! Check here first): 12V/48V Lithium Batteries: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-batteries.html Solar System Component Directory: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solarcomponents.html Plug-N-Play Systems: www.mobile-solarpower.com/full-size-systems.html Complete 48V System Kits: www.mobile-solarpower.com/complete-48v-solar-kits.html DIY Friendly Air Conditioner/ Heat Pumps: www.mobile-solarpower.com/solar-friendly-air-conditioners.html Complete 48V System Blueprint: www.mobile-solarpower.com/48v-complete-system-blueprint.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Favorite Online Stores for DIY Solar and Coupon Codes: -Current Connected: SOK, Victron and High Quality Components. Best prices and warranty around: currentconnected.com/?ref=wp -Signature Solar: Cheap Server Rack Batteries and Large Solar Panels: www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek -Ecoflow Delta Official Site: My favorite plug-n-play solar generator: us.ecoflow.com/?aff=7 -AmpereTime: Cheapest 12V batteries around: amperetime.com/products/ampere-time-12v-100ah-lithium-lifepo4-battery?ref=h-cvbzfahsek -Rich Solar: Mega site and cheaper prices than renogy! Check them out: richsolar.com/?ref=h-cvbzfahsek -Shop Solar Kits: Huge site with every solar kit you can imagine! Check it out: shopsolarkits.com/?ref=will-p -Battery Hookup: Cheap cell deals bit.ly/2mIxSqt 10% off code: diysolar -Watts 24/7: Best deals on all-in-one solar power systems, with customer support and distribution here in the USA: watts247.com/?wpam_id=3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Contact Information: I am NOT available for personal solar system consult! If you wish to contact me, this is my direct email: [e-mail] Join the forum at diysolarforum.com/ if you wish to hang out with myself and others and talk about solar FTC Disclosure Statement and Disclaimers: Every video includes some form of paid promotion or sponsorship. Some links on this youtube channel may be affiliate links. We may get paid if you buy something or take an action after clicking one of these. My videos are for educational purposes only. Information is subject to change/update at any time. Electricity is DANGEROUS and can kill. Be smart and use common sense :) DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com

[@AntoineBouvet]

The website for the affiliated link looks like a scam.. Can someone confirm it is legit?

[@WillProwse]

@@AntoineBouvet chins? That site is not a scam

[@AntoineBouvet]

@@WillProwse Thanks for replying, Will. I know Chins is not a scam, but this website does not look right! If you go to the contact tab, you see weird names or words on the left. If you look at the bottom right, it references one of your Chins battery review videos on the YT link, but the FB and IG links go to shopify, it does not add the tax to your order... so many things look wrong! Is it the official North-America website?

[@WillProwse]

@@AntoineBouvet oh right 😂 I saw that. Yeah it's their official site. Most chins clones have similar websites, it's hilarious. I don't understand why they put zero effort into the site.

[@AntoineBouvet]

@@WillProwse Alright, then, I'll give it a try for two 12v 100ah batteries, they're really cheap! Thanks for your teardown videos and advice in general, it really helps us navigate this new booming market.

[@amham48]

On the strength of this review I purchased a 12V 100Ah Chins. The price is now down to $349 and available on Amazon. The battery arrived in about 10 days and is at the correct voltage. I will continue to use and report back any difficulties. Thanks Will. UPDATE: 2 100AH Chin's in parallel providing power to a 3000W Samlex inverter for sump pump backup application. Power required for sump is way below this "overkill" set-up. Intermittent cycling and no issues whatsoever. Battery's working 100% as specified...very pleased!

[@amham48]

Update: I have 2 100V Chins LiFePO4 batteries purchased via Amazon about 10 months ago, as above. I subsequently found that the internal batteries were pouch cells other than the prismatic that I was led to believe. I contacted Chins and they confirmed they were "soft cells" or pouch. I complained and they offered to replace them with prismatic. They sent me a PREPAID UPS return label and I returned them for a swap. I received the new cells before they even received my return. I consider this the BEST customer service of any manufacturer I've dealt with! Bravo Chins!.

[@loganrexroat3063]

Still going strong?

[@amham48]

@@loganrexroat3063 Yes, no problems however this application is very, very intermittent. Sitting in a standby mode the batteries remain at full voltage.

[@Christian-gt8rr]

@@amham48 Now you can buy batteries like these for 150 dollars, impressive price drop in only 3 years

[@cuteone1702]

Saving us money without any bias. Thanks Will 👍

[@JairoABennu]

I adore you you don't need to get mad about 'things' from anywhere too much. I am impressed how you taught me clearly about electricity beyond even just solar tech. You are Fab (80s) don't forget it!

[@kevinadams9468]

"Now we need to rip it apart...." That's why I love you, man. Knowledge AND entertainment at the same time.

[@RealMitchRappisBack]

Amazing! Thank you. Rick Pierce gave you props on Bass Talk Live today. Talk about a huge shout out. Congrats. When your content is awesome, it’s reaches far and wide.

[@ProjectsinParadise808]

Thanks Will! I've been hoping you would do a tear down on one of these. I've got the 300ah version, and absolutely love it . I feel even better after you've given it the once over! Aloha buddy

[@thisguy2588]

how long have you had it?

[@reggieterhune7479]

I bought this battery because I watched this video. I waited until you did a review. However, I did not understand the links and how they worked, until I watched one of your 1-year-old videos on how you make money from KZbin. Lol. I wish I had a do over. I would have clicked on your link and bought it through it. I will from now on. Thank you for your insight on all these solar products. Keep on telling the truth my friend. I love the way you operate.

[@alberttakaruza5612]

Today am gonna start by giving you a like before i watch, you tought me how to install my own DIY solar rig, since then i have never light a candle in my home ever since.

[@peggycaldwell963]

You are helping us build our off grid solar system. Awesome. The joy you share with the smarts and curiosity. LOVE the deconstruction!

[@340wbymag]

The cost of batteries is what has prevented me from getting solar panels, so it is wonderful to see a cheaper battery is available. Thank you for your video!!!

[@jnthnbshp]

I had the same issue. Research Lead Carbon batteries. I went with PCC-230 and they have been awesome. Lots of benefits over lithium including cost.

[@JairoABennu]

Your mind is so clear that I would be embarrassed by the clear quick answer you would deliver

[@joewong6662]

I love it when you rip them apart 👍

[@graphguy]

Best KZbin source for all you need to know about DIY SOLAR.

[@casajardinez]

Great for me, don't care for low temperature i live in the Caribbean. Bought 2 batteries first for $439.99 then $399.99 , after that it's all the way up to $469.99 and its the only one that sends to Puerto Rico. To me is a win/win.

[@sassykins13]

Score!

[@openmind6969]

Dang. And I thought 460 was cheap

[@michaelrogers9720]

I bought the 300 Ah battery.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

For those who don’t live in a warm climate, LFP will struggle below 5 degrees C. It keeps a low wattage heater to keep it warm.

[@gravelydon7072]

@@Dave5843-d9m Coldest I have ever seen here was in 1977. 26°F/-3.33°C here in South Florida. And I had to spend the whole night on frost/freeze watch. The water in the last sprinklers on the lines on a 10 acre plot froze up. And that was with 60PSI on the pump and 70° water temp out of the ground. I was there as mechanic on duty in case of pump failures. That was a cold night on watch over about 60 acres of experiments. Everything here struggles when it gets that cold. Locals struggle when the temps drop below 70°. ;-)

[@MrAngus68]

Will, I am learning everything from you to build my first system. Your book is so easy to understand! Thank you so much!!!!

[@SasquatchBunyan]

Testing pointless high temp sensor: “I just like to do it for fun.” LOL!

[@cawneyhawme7141]

I looked for this comment to upvote it.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

People that love batteries have a low bar for fun🙃

[@McGyverPilot]

We all know shock value adds major funding potential. Matthew should change up his show and sometime try to blow up a battery, again just for fun, lol!

[@michaelclarke7552]

I live in the Caribbean, what are my best choice of lithium ion t you would recommend

[@michaelclarke7552]

Battery

[@andrewwoodham5497]

dude you a nut. big compliment there. love the videos, the lack of cursing makes me nervous. if i tried a video it would just be a bunch of beeping. you probably saved me a bunch of money. i started solar years ago. just a small system backup lights for the house. solar in the barn and greenhouses. hurricane came through couple years ago left us without lights for 2 weeks. had a hell of a time finding fuel for the genny. mother and grandmother is on oxygen and bed ridden plus im disabled. installed a mpp lv24-24 and 3kw of panels. had to use lead acid batteries. but the all in one unit has worked flawlessly for a year. oxygen, cpap machines and ac in their room never miss a lick . loosing your freezer here and there is one thing. keeping the oxygen going to those ladies is another. thanks for the videos and all the testing.

[@bakadeshi_aunstudios]

Will: "and I haven't seen these go out of stock" Will's viewers:. Hold my beer.

[@nigellundsten7237]

In one of these videos, (ampere time, zooms, chins) he mentions that he found "Enjoybot" inside. They have their own batteries out now, not rebranded, WITH low temp charge protection!

[@shanehamilton6708]

This is by far the best channel for lithium batteries and information about them by far. This guy is so smart it’s scary! I think I still want to DIY 3 batteries for my boat. Thank you!!

[@Channel-gz9hm]

Battleborn may finally need to start lowering their prices with units like these hitting the market. BB are nice but their prices are just obnoxious at this point.

[@shanehamilton6708]

Battleborn and other top brands have to charge more to pay there “pro staff “ for endorsements.

[@ubermenschen3636]

@@shanehamilton6708 ::: yep. Marketing is expensive. Somebody gotta pay for it.

[@richardclark8520]

China pays ridiculously low labor . Plus our government gives them favored status to keep their taxes low. Cheap prices cost human lives. If you want American jobs, it cost more.

[@NeverTakeNoCut-offs]

@@richardclark8520 This is an absolute fact. But average joe/Josephine isn’t going to care, as long as they get their stuff cheap. As long as the pollution, forced labor, and wretched conditions are “over there”, it’s not our fault.

[@P_RO_]

There's a lot of people who automatically equate high price to best quality. There's a market niche for that, and while sales are slower they're steadier and remain more stable in swings of the economy. Doing business does cost more in the US than China just like living in NYC costs more than living in Alabama. It's not all 'slave labor' in China; just that where it costs less to live you can do equally well with lower wages, so lower wages will exist allowing companies to sell their product at lower prices. You can make high profit on low sales numbers or low profit on high sales numbers and both end up with the same net profit.That's BB's established market niche so they're not likely to drop their prices even if they can- why invite competition and a chance of losing when you've got the game won already?

[@benbankson]

"I work out" 😂😂😂 Love the editing style and subtle humor drop-ins 🙌

[@pfmcdermott1]

Yes! Undervalued comment in the video and in the comments! +1 to your comment!

[@somemore9784]

Been looking at the 200ah version of this. Torn between that and building my own pack with a bms.

[@ubermenschen3636]

Build your own. You’ll get a better battery for the buck.

[@wildwestunlimited]

First and foremost, YOU are the one who I trust about anything solar online!!!! You do an awesome job in your education!...... Sounds like, if a customer isn't too concerned about a low temp sensor scenario, then this can be a GREAT option!!! I'm thinkin about an indoor solar generator with solar panels outdoors that will run a split system AC ALL the time using 220V on it's own independent circuit all to itself. This will take a large load off my home AC that should lower my electric bill. Am I thinking logically? Correctly?

[@yourpersonaldatadealer2239]

Hey Will, can you do a U.K. version sometime? Would love a review on batteries available over here (Amazon)

[@trevornelmes9331]

This one is available in the UK from Battery Masters under the Ultramax LI100-12 and LI100-12BLU brand/model, and taking VAT in to account, that is 10% cheaper than Will quotes.

[@urbanimage]

@@trevornelmes9331 That's very interesting. How did you find that out?

[@trevornelmes9331]

@@urbanimage I was bored, so I looked around then called them, they watched the video and confirmed the insides are the same. Apparently, the 'real' factory/maker will add any brand you want (in any color if you order a lot, but black is the default no extra charge color). The Chins brand is just another brand, and not the real company that makes them.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

@@trevornelmes9331 if you search on Alibaba you'll soon see this. Literally 100's of batteries many with exactly the same blurb. If you find gen manufacturers they list the minimum quantities for custom branding. I've spent ages finding a direct Lithium only battery producer. Ages!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

@@trevornelmes9331 I looked at those and dismissed them - on account of their very low charge capacity. 10Ah. In MHO a east of time bc one of the huge benefits of lithium is it's recover rate and if the battery acts as choke then your stuffed. Any thoughts please? (I'm in the 'shire and needing 24v x 400Ah..)

[@OutOfOfficeCamping]

We have to say one of the funniest disassemble of a battery we've seen you do. Incredable video angles and footage. We always love just how excited and informative you are with content. We enjoy your positive humor and vibe! Thank you. ~Mark & Teresa

[@williamwilson6499]

“I work out”. So random, so awesome.

[@sassykins13]

Lmao that was my favorite part! Spit my water out laughing. Awesome

[@michaelclay6286]

Refreshing, a novice to pro can understand and relate to a very straightforward presentation on the topic and move forward with no hesitations AND I am getting up to speed quickly! So much to take in. Thank you!

[@jay-rus4437]

As a general contractor, I love our oscillating saws. With that said, you need either the somewhat newer dewalt 4-1/2” circular saw and set the blade depth very shallow to cut the batter cases. The second option, and possibly better, would be a dremel circular saw attachment. These sure would make your tear down process faster, easier, and likely even safer.

[@WillProwse]

Smart idea

[@rebar-king]

And it will give you another tool to purchase!

[@joevasquez1776]

@@WillProwse or just nitrogen freeze it

[@arminius301]

Have built two CALB LiFePo4 power generators (each 12V 100ah capacity). Each of them were more expensive if you hook them up to a good quality bms (overkill is what I used). The busbars ($35), cells ($300 off of ebay seller), and bms ($125) cost over $460 combined, all brand new components, so there is no way a quality DIY will beat $379! That said I'd highly doubt you can beat this ridiculously cheap battery, unless you buy grade B used cells. Thanks for another great video btw!

[@Nick-im3sm]

I'm curious if you got the "plus" version or the regular one.. I keep seeing a "plus" variant listed, and it made me wonder if they made them with and without low temp cutoffs. We live in such an incredible time for battery technology though. This is SUCH A CHEAP drop in 100ah replacement! With the right solar controller, you could slap this into the battery box on 90% of all campers/RV's out there and it's barely any more $$ than an AGM from one of the leading companies, and have almost double the useable amp hours, taking up roughly the same amount of space, but with quite a bit less weight. What a great time to be alive!

[@TripGibson]

Yes, they do on Amazon they have two of the same batteries one with and without the low temp

[@dylanperry6995]

I just bought the "Smart" version with low temp disconnect and self heating. Ill be throwing it in the freezer and hooking it up to a charger as soon as I get it

[@josiahkaplan8419]

@@dylanperry6995 did the low temp sensor work on it??

[@cjjenson8212]

Thank you for confirming that having all my batts in my root cellar at a constant 57⁰F that I don't need to worry about low temp sensors to start with!👍

[@dougle03]

Instantly out of stock..... The power of your channel Will....

[@RimdarRanch]

Still available on Amazon

[@dougle03]

@@RimdarRanch Not form Will's link

[@almighty3372]

My GOD!! YOU ARE BRUTAL!!! but a very knowledgeable young man......

[@scottanderson691]

Will Prowse - Hands down the most thorough, best product reviews on the net. Thanks Will, even for your "useless" tests.

[@johnschuff983]

Love your information and the entertaining way you present things. Thank you

[@andycanfixit]

I recently got one of these, works well. They have another version they call their smart version, it has a built in heating pad and low temp disconnect. Apparently at low temps it uses the power from the charger to run the heating pad so that it doesn't use the cells to power the heating. Once it's above the temp needed to charge then it switches to charging. I'd be curious to see how that works.

[@P_RO_]

The principle sounds good. Sure beats having heating pad depleted batteries when it's still too cold to charge.

[@kfclist793]

Andy - I just wonder if without a cutoff if the batteries will be depleted to zero before they warm up enough to actually be useful. I live in the north and some people live at high altitudes so a 20 below zero week is not unheard of.

[@andycanfixit]

@@kfclist793 In a place like that other than the LTO chemistry you probably want your batteries in an insulated and ideally climate controlled space. The BMS will basically just disconnect the battery in that setup and all your charging power up to whatever the heaters limit is would go to heating but it probably would not be enough to overcome that cold. You would likely need a separate heating system as well.

[@chachi5975]

@P A $659.99 for the 100ah. It also has the Bluetooth connection for monitoring. I think you were looking at the 200ah for $1199.

[@chachi5975]

@P A the heater, low temperature charging disconnect and the Bluetooth connection I would guess.

[@zippydodahquirk9039]

This guy is a genius. I'm glad people like him made it on KZbin. I'm so sick of seeing flat out grifters making money on KZbin.

[@terryburns8917]

On Amazon for the same brand battery, they have other empires listed and I also have them listed in a smart battery as they call it. It says it’s supports low temperature charging down to -34 ,if I’m reading it correctly.

[@michaeldoherty2289]

What are empires?

[@armandotorres3232]

Picked up one on Amazon. Great review. So far so good it hasn't let me down

[@happybluedog]

Smells like harbor freight - I feel that

[@paulplack490]

Wasn't that a Nirvana song?

[@boscodog4358]

I have four of these batteries. The first two, one of the two had a BMS problem. Chins replaced both batteries Immediately. Awesome batteries and Awesome company to deal with.

[@wesdog1959]

Hey Will, can you talk about mixing different batteries, for instance a Battle Born 100a and a DIY 280ah in parallel?

[@CoffeeAddictEvan]

You will get 380 ah As far as I know, there should be no risks Edit: no risks as long as the voltages match

[@kirkwagner461]

The segments of these videos when you open the cases are the best. Cue Destruction Montage!

[@SkypowerwithKarl]

“I have not seen these out of stock.” Well, that’s gonna charge if history repeats, huh Will? Lol

[@carlsagan2371]

Yup... out of stock 3 hours after you posted this.

[@DaveyHoogland]

Yep, sold out x)

[@keezer4346]

Yep, out of stock so I ordered the Lossigy instead. It was slightly cheaper. Hoping Will does a video on them soon.

[@280zone]

Back in stock...

[@keezer4346]

I believe they ship from a California warehouse, rather than an Amazon warehouse. This means they may update their in stock in small quantities to prevent people from buying all of their stock at once at a cheap price. Likely they will raise the price slowly. I’m an Amazon seller and this is what I do with a hot products. 😇😋

[@adryanbramantae2715]

This kid's really smart I like watching his videos some people are just genius at what they do.

[@godwillingandthecreekdontr2424]

This was incredibly helpful. I'm in the beginning stage of design for a stand-alone solar system for my RV (38 ft. pusher). I was already eye-humping these batteries and saw the Ampere Times were a touch cheaper. Good to know they're basically identical! Have many questions about other components... I will be doing a 24v system, curious about your thoughts on 24v inverter/charger combo (good idea, bad idea)? And why or why not 24v panels?

[@menglei6301]

Yes, I also recently took apart both the ADCBATT 12v 100ah lifepo4 battery I purchased and the Ampere Times one, and I found that they are nearly the same construction and have the same writing on the cells, so I suspect they are both from some Chinese manufacturer. But their prices are different, Ampere Times battery is 350$, ADCBATT is only 300$, so is this a sales tactic used by the dealer?

[@boan1502]

Tack!

[@pyronmasters]

“I work out”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, just made my day.

[@rossbarber26]

Hahaha.. Omg.. Your so cute and now funny as well : ) We just bought this battery 2 months ago! Thank you for reviewing it!! We subscribed when we were looking into getting our first lithium. Love all your knowledge : ) ThAnK YoU!!

[@DagonNaxos]

I've been waiting for this teardown. I'm interested in picking some of these up, but I wanted to see what was inside. Thanks for the review! Any concerns about putting multiple of these in parallel for a multi battery 12V system? I assume the BMS will keep everything in check. Looking at maybe 4 in a single bank.

[@chucklucas8747]

You have a done a great job on this young man

[@Soli_Deo_Gloria_.]

I checked out the Chins 300 ah battery and read, or I should say tried to read the reviews, but I clicked the filter "verified purchases" and out of the hundreds of reviews there was not one to read... *:-D*

[@CosmicSeeker69]

It's been an Amazon scam now for a long time... Ratings but no reviews... What can anyone do about it?

[@jasonchesnet3922]

Only had my chins 300ah few months. Works well for me in my van.

[@P_RO_]

Amazon is finally going after the sellers actively manipulating reviews. But they're useless anyway when most 5-star reviews of everything there say something like "Just arrived and it looks good to me!" That's why people like Will are so valuable to us.

[@garymishler770]

I bought Chins 200 AH battery and it works great, now 4 months in my Van.

[@Mr.Schitzengigglez]

Me: Listens to Will, and buys the best lithium batteries I can afford. Will: Cuts my batteries to pieces with saws, and hammers.

[@IslandSpirit35]

You are really amazing..You are so knowledgeable about all this stuff. I really enjoy following and learning from you. Thank you so much. Outstanding job!!!

[@karoneykemboi5480]

Wish I could get it here, in Africa we don't really care about the low temperature at all

[@kipdennis3796]

Yes wish someone can import these to Kenya,we need them but no local availability

[@ubermenschen3636]

@@kipdennis3796 ::: you should have no problem buying these battery from China as Mombasa has a huge shipping port.

[@kipdennis3796]

@@ubermenschen3636 import tax in this region is ridiculous

[@stradaview2000]

@@kipdennis3796 - if you know anyone at the US embassy, get them to let you deliver it to their APO address.

[@picklemetimbers3003]

I bought these batteries based off your earlier test of Chins. I am very happy with my purchase.

[@picklemetimbers3003]

My batteries are kept in a climate controlled garage in Florida. I am 0% worried about cold temp protection. Can't beat the price.

[@ckh3731]

I love your videos, Will! You're very good at demystifying all of this. I'm very new to learning about solar for my travel trailer. These low priced batteries may allow me to get rid of my heavy golf cart batteries. Can you recommend a basic video that will help me understand what equipment I need to set up a low temp cutoff? Thanks!

[@daveyboy8907]

Buy a victron solar controller they and add a temp sensor.

[@EVoltage00]

I have 3 of the Chins 200Ah batteries in my rv and have no complaints. I had one that the case was virtually destroyed in shipping, but the vendor refunded me for it and gave me a discount on a new one with no trouble. As you mentioned,they're well built and perform well. Low temp protection is unfortunate, but I have them in my enclosed, heated storage bay, so I'm not too concerned.

[@RonnieRukus]

Hey Will! Amazon sells the "smart" version of this battery as well for about $180 more. From what I can ascertain, the smart versions have a cold temperature sensor and a heating element to warm up the cells to charge them safely when the exterior temp is all the way down to -30°F. Is that something worthwhile to have if you live in a cold(er) area or would it be better just to use the temperature sensor in the Victron MPPT? We live in Maryland, so our winters aren't harsh harsh (it rarely gets below 10°F, but we have been camping late(r) in the fall when it dips below freezing overnight. Originally I was going to get (2) 206AH SOK batteries, but they're hard to come by. I was thinking about pivoting to these.

[@sf4Guy]

I learn a lot from watching your videos...good reviews on these batteries.

[@rtmproject]

Try to review a blue carbon lifepo4 battery sir.

[@JRP3]

One review on Amazon says the company doesn't use the low temp sensor because it also prevents low temp discharge. I guess the BMS doesn't have a separate circuit to control charge independently of discharge so they just disable the low temp cutoff completely.

[@myhificloud]

CHINS 1) Cycle life: 2000+ cycles at 80% discharge depth 2) Max continuous charge current: 50A 3) Max continuous discharge current: 100A 4) Peak discharge current: 300A (Duration: less than 3 seconds) Ampere Time 1) Providing 2000~5000 cycles 2) Maximum Continuous Charging / Discharge Current: 200A 3) Maximum Permanent Discharging Current: 400A 5Sec. Source: Amazon listings

[@powerautosportsusa9691]

I'm actually in the market and I saw that as well. So is the chins cycle life accurate or the ampere time inaccurate?

[@tylerhoover1629]

I have my chins setup with all victron components and they have been awesome!

[@skelafeti]

I take amazon reviews with a grain of salt these days. Vendors are still bribing buyers to leave 5 star reviews. But these videos blow away those reviews (legit or not) since you actually show us the hardware and data points. I saw this battery and I assumed those reviews were bought and paid for and the battery was junk. So your review here shows I was wrong. Kind of like the renogy which you've shown is junk.

[@P_RO_]

Amazon is starting to go after the sellers who actively manipulate reviews but I still wouldn't trust them.

[@skelafeti]

@@P_RO_ Agree, but they are taking their time. I attempted to post a review stating product came with a note to leave 5 star review for a gift card and amazon wouldn't post it. So while it is a start, they really are not trying too hard to stop it, and it isn't for lack of resources.

[@P_RO_]

@@skelafeti Agree 101%

[@milcotto4153]

You need to use a product for a longer period of time to know what it is good for. And you can't tell if a battery is good or not by just looking at the parts in it. That is like looking under the hood of a car and using the car for one trip, and then saying that this engine looks really good, this a review and this is a really good car. People that don't know better are buying products based on 'reviews' like this.

[@skelafeti]

@@milcotto4153 You get a good idea if it's going to be a decent battery by the quality it was put together and the components. Without these reviews you could end up with a renogy battery that he tore apart and showed how shoddy it was. It's all a risk, even reputable lead acids can be bad. People are way easily bought and influenced so you never know about most of these reviews for that matter.

[@KuntalGhosh]

where i live temps don't fall below 10c even in the coldest day of year it gets to 7c for a night only .. so low temp protection does not matter for me anyways and cells would be discharging at night in a warm server room .

[@tuxcrafter]

"Currently unavailable We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock." Well that went fast!

[@paulhenry8174]

Got one

[@Barb11221950]

I saw your video after I had ordered the Chin 12v 100amp battery, so I was really holding my breath as I watched you destroy that perfectly good battery (Good Job by the way) Thanks so much for posting this, made me feel so much better purchasing it. I live in NY so thanks for the hint about the low temp monitor. I will be bringing in my battery when camping season is done. Thanks again for such a Great video!

[@deang5622]

I think you mean 100 ampere-hour. You omitted the time element.

[@MrBumbles2]

Import restrictions are why, different name can sell more n flood market. Most China products are like that only one manufacturer 12 different names.

[@joeo7257]

I love the time lapsed comments, crunch, "I work out", Buzzz, Bang bang bang, "holly crap' "Uh oh", gasp,"I just melted it!" You make the most thorough reviews on the internet.

[@captaincurt3180]

😆 Will: always entertaining!

[@Barb11221950]

I loved that part to...lol.

[@colbyscott9822]

The "I work out" comment killed me.

[@quinones355]

How are batterys holding up

[@michaelparks3106]

Good to see you've updated the price, I bought one when the price went up to $345, then two weeks later I bought another one when the price went up to $365. I wish I had bought two when the price was $329 ! Still cheaper than Battle Born though.....

[@laronis]

Is it really "UL" listed? I wonder.

[@milcotto4153]

Me too.

[@deang5622]

If it's Chinese made, probably not. They generally fake all compliance labels.

[@PatX2]

I bought two of the Ampere Time 12v 200AH last spring for $1840 including shipping and tax. I've been happy with them so far. Added a RV water tank heater to prevent freezing/charging issues.

[@rogerhargreaves2272]

😀 I like it Will, it would be perfect in Wales where the temperature doesn’t often get above 25°c. Thanks for continuing to share your knowledge.

[@monstirz]

I think you should do a step by step DIY build video for those of us that are on a tight budget. And leave recommended products used and where to get them. I am looking to build a 100 ah 24 volt and would like to know how to do it.

[@zmarko]

"I workout." 🤣🤣🤣 That was awesome. Lol

[@beardednomadvanlife6363]

I saw your video about the water tank heater and I'm gonna use it to keep batteries warm along with my diesel heater running during Pennsylvania winters

[@fisherus]

"I've not seen these batteries out of stock, whoops, until today "; Will's famous last words on this battery!

[@TechieTard]

Marketing, you gotta love it! I got two of those CHINS some times back, and the damn thing has not discharged in 4 months of none use. Still holding 12v+ each!

[@michaeldoherty2289]

Consider charging them. 12v is very low state of charge for this battery.

[@serversurfer6169]

Apparently the “smart” versions of these batteries include not just low-temp protection but also an internal heater to bring the batteries up above freezing. They’re rated for -35°C ambient! Pretty smart indeed!! 💜🤓👍 Also, they have a 300AH version for $1200/$1500… 🌈🤤💜

[@KmanJeeper]

I was considering buying two of their 300Ah batteries for our 2000Watt system. I will have to start watching your videos on the DIY battery builds!

[@SolarCruiserDude]

I got the 300 amp hour version

[@markjohnson9402]

Glad to see the respirator. You don't know what kind of garbage they put in their stuff. Smart man !

[@props-model-shop]

Wonder how many of those batteries U can put in Series or Parallel

[@ubermenschen3636]

As many as you can afford and at the voltage your wire can carry safely.

[@j.r.576]

I bought Lossigy, a similar Chinese 200ah lifepo4. Specs state up to 10 in parallel and 4 in series.

[@merlpriester]

Info on Amazon says 4 in series and 4 parallel. So 4p4s

[@props-model-shop]

@@merlpriester U the Man!

[@TGraysChannels]

I purchased a set of these (200A) for a battery installation in an unheated barn. It was winter, and I had a chance to test the low temperature feature. My limited tests went very well. So far, I am quite pleased.

[@TKevinBlanc]

"Smells like Harbor Freight..." but you say it like it's a bad thing. "I work out." 😂

[@medogguard]

I bought 6 of these . I couldn't be happier. Battleborn was out of my reach . Im 100% off grid .

[@AVDanielViolin]

Hello , I have watched many of your videos , I thought I have learnt something from you, but in reality when now I am in my Cabin in Norway, I have no idea what I should get, I need to power my PC, cell phones cameras and a small ,12v fridge, could you please make list what ii should buy which is or are available At Amazon, I will make videos thank you for your easy to understand instruction and wonderful help.!

[@kve6360]

Find out how many watts each appliance will draw. That would be the place to start

[@robertsimpson6324]

Mate my system does all that and I have 16 100 ah batteries 3000 watts of second hand panels 3 cheap chargers and a 1500 watt inverter and it runs power tools everything I need it's that simple I just use a generator for the welder it's easy don't be afraid good luck

[@MudPeppers]

Get a 3500 watt generator

[@Index-o1234]

@@MudPeppers Preditor on Harbor freight is a pretty good model and it has a silencer switch to quieter run time....some of those generators DB levels can drive you bonkers.

[@robertbader2915]

I have a similar setup. 12V fridges range from 60-90W. So this will run 24 hour a day. The other stuff you listed will be taken care by the excess solar during the day. If it's a PC then you will need more. Labtop is better. Inverter depends on your requirements 1500W, 300-400AH in batteries (lithium), 60-80A solar charge controller and about 1200W in panels. Why not a propane fridge, the system could be a lot smaller. You need to figure out total watt usage in day. Then size the battery a bit bigger (1.5x). Then estimate the panels, by assuming you get like 3 hours of sun a day. 300-400ah 12V, you will need 1000-1400W in solar panels. 24V system would be better. Beefy for 12V and only because of the fridge. So based on what you said:. 400W inverter, worst case for fridge = 90wx24h = 2160 wh. So get 3x100AH or 1x300Ah lithium. Cheap 100A Mppt charge controller (OOYCYOO). 3x 340W solar panels (3P config). Get a 6way 12V fuse block. Add RV lights, water pumps....

[@theghettotraveler347]

i brought 2 of the 300ah battery from Amazon for $1299 ea in march and its way better than the 400ah of amg batteries i was using. love it. 💘

[@andreknudsen3272]

sold out :D

[@finecutpost]

As a film editor I really admire the professional snappy edits you make, excellent work

[@berthaduniverse]

Great review of a product I've been eyeing. Any chance you can give feedback on how rugged it would be for an RV or Travel Trailer? Thanks Will, your vids are the best!

[@Ender3Me]

I'm restoring a fiberglass egg trailer, do i just swap this battery with my old AGM and it'll recharge and do everything the same?

[@ImACarbonCopy]

uh didnt you watch Will cut that thing apart. That thing is rugged

[@berthaduniverse]

@@ImACarbonCopy uh, yes I did "watch Will", and I still didn't see that the internal cells were in any way vibration isolated/padded/or bound in a way that might or might not lead to vibration damage. So, to be clear, just because it's in a plastic welded box and has a few small square pads of foam, doesn't mean it won't break down from vibrations from driving on dirt roads.

[@berthaduniverse]

@@Ender3Me No, you need to have a charging system compatible with Lithium batteries, in my experience with my Scamps, many older chargers will NOT properly charge lithium. Will has many videos on the topic and has a great book in how to build/upgrade an RV's electrical system for lithium batteries.

[@ImACarbonCopy]

@@berthaduniverse I'm sorry Paul. You are right.

[@mistymorris6417]

The price is down to $440 on Amazon. This is all new to me, but looking forward to watching more of your videos and then pulling the trigger to get a power system set-up.

[@reinaldoperez272]

Low charge protection is irrelevant in the tropic. They look perfect for me. There is not snow here.

[@RimdarRanch]

THANKS Will for the tear down. Next up can you tear down an Ampere Time 100 Ah Battery? I purchased two of them ( minutes apart after realizing what a great deal it was.) I grabbed them when they were on Sale for $499.00.They are setup in my Bug-Out Camper to run my 12v fridge 7/24 along with LED lighting, 12v water pump, and 1k Pure Sine Inverter. From Sun down to Sun up the Battery level only drops 4-5% The Ampere Time Batteries ROCK!

[@donlokatme]

500$ to much imo when i can get 100ah led acid for 80$ at wall mart just have to maintain and keep a eye on it...

[@j.r.576]

There are plenty of situations lead acid don't cut it. Such as in winter temps. In real world you're lucky if you get 40% of your rated capacity when freezing. I had 235ah @50% available, I was using about 35ah running my furnace overnight after charging, in the morning I'd be at 12.0 volts or less, just 10 hours. You get over 95% available power with lifepo4. Sure it's a waste if you don't need it, not so much when you do. I now have 1200ah via 6 200ah lifepo4, I can pretty much run anything I want now without worry.

[@westreadwell9675]

Thanks for the last bit about diy. My brain was exploding the entire time. “Cheaper diy!”

[@nerdinium]

if you bought two, would it be double chins? badum tssss... had to be done :) 75 degrees C - battery on fire sensor.