40,000 Miles in Our Tesla Model Y Performance | What It’s Like to Live With & How It’s Held Up

[@edmundscars]

Keeping our long-term Tesla Model Y for a few extra years turned out to be a great move, as we got to thoroughly test its performance and battery capacity to see how four years and 40,000 miles have affected its speed and range. Have you also owned an EV for several years now? We'd love to hear how the years have treated your vehicles. Let us know in the comments below!

[@swin7217]

Test the new 2024 model y better suspension better build quality

[@danmorgan940]

Your video keeps saying 12 K for FSD but it’s 8k. Tesla recently reduced the price and that was several weeks ago.

[@ShadowRaptor8]

2023 onwards Model Ys have noticeably better suspension. But I think it's fair to claim the 2020 MY suspension is bad because frankly it was.

[@markplott4820]

that drive computer is in a ILLEGAL position. you CANT ever have Cameras , computers in the Center Windshield position. the CENTER location MUST be free of clutter. you may use the extreme LEFT or passenger RIGHT for devices. THATS A TICKET and a FINE.

[@markplott4820]

Edmunds - then YOU dont know how to USE BEV. you can SAFELY charge to 100% overnight on LEVEL 2 home charging. you can use Superchargers to 80% DAILY safely.

[@CarStory]

As a 2022 Model 3 owner, I think for anyone who drives less than 250 miles per day and can charge at home, the Model 3 or Model Y are very good cars for the money and probably the best EV's you can buy. If you can’t charge at home, just make sure superchargers are available in the areas you travel. If you have a Tesla store in your area, you can always make an appointment to test drive one. They do not pressure you to buy anything and it will answer any questions you have about EV ownership and daily use.

[@KTMcaptain]

Eh, if you can’t charge at home or work then your commute should be less than 30% of the range so that you aren’t spending a lot of time at the supercharger. I get free slow charging at work so I’ll get about 25-40% battery every day depending on a lot of different conditions.

[@dangrass]

I've owned a 2019 Model 3 LRDM for almost 5 years and 63k miles. It's been the most trouble-free car I've owned in my 69 years. Battery capacity has degraded 9%. The car has had zero maintenance other than one set of wiper blades and a set of tires. Warranty repairs have been minimal and trouble free. Over the 63k miles I've owned it, the car has averaged 249 wh/mile, including lots of high speed and cold temp driving. Just yesterday I drove the car from Jackson Hole, WY to Berkeley, CA (900 miles) and achieved 246 WH/mile....almost exactly the EPA rated range. This drive included many hours of 75 MPH cruising. Most of my charging is at home at zero cost (using solar panels), or at the house in Jackson at 6 cents a KW/H. When traveling long distances the Supercharger network has been flawless. Over the 63k miles I've driven this car I've saved about $10k in fueling costs in addition to ~$5k in maintenance costs. At this point the interior of the car is virtually indistinguishable from new, and everything works at least as well as it did when the car was new. I should also note that with the ongoing OTA software updates the car just keeps getting better. All in all I'm a very satisfied customer and would be definitely buy another Tesla vehicle. One final thing, the "dealership experience" with this car has been orders of magnitude better than anything I've experienced with any other vehicle I've owned. The service centers are knowledgeable and honest, potential problems can be diagnosed remotely, most of what little service I've had has been done in my driveway, prices are reasonable, and the quality of work is far superior to 3rd party dealers. The purchasing experience also has been head and shoulders better than what I've experienced with 3rd party dealerships. All in all, a great ownership experience. Oh, and this car hauls ass, handles really well, is great in the snow, and gets 125 MPG.

[@DerekDavis213]

2019 Model 3 is known to have a rough ride, wind noise at freeway speeds, and it takes a big range hit when you have A/C on full blast in the summer, or heat in the winter.

[@eloneatmyshorts]

And that 2019 has an absolutely $500 garbage suspension. Garbage.

[@defferoo]

@@DerekDavis213 as an owner of a 2018 LR AWD Model 3 these are all true statements, but AFAIK a lot of this has been improved with the heat pump, re-tuned suspension, and better noise isolation in newer cars.

[@quickpstuts412]

Mine is a 2020 with low miles, but it's good to hear from people with older Model 3's that are driving closer to the average amount of miles each year. Hope I can say the same at 63K. Such a great daily driver.

[@Soh90]

Ownership is key here. I have a 2021 Model Y also. But I skipped the giant 21” wheels. I get about 280 realistic miles on a full charge, although I have seen OVER 300 miles on a road trip once with 3% battery to spare. That was a 80° day where I cruised at 69mph for the entire trip with my AC set to 74°. I charge at home about 80% of the time and after 4 years, my range estimate still shows 310 miles for a full charge which would likely equate to about 275 - 280 real miles. My car currently has 37,339 miles.

[@aarronblake1121]

Man people can’t like both? The internet sucks. I have both ev and ice cars. No complaints on both at all.

[@shadowuaw-0001]

People can't wrap their head around the idea of 'the right tool for the job". They just want one tool that somehow does everything with zero compromises.

[@rcktpilot]

I have a 1996 Trans Am WS6, a 2001 Ford Ranger, a GMC Yukon XL…and a Tesla Model Y. It’s the best car for the job it does. Daily driver for my 40 mile commute. I plug it in at home, it’s ready to go the next morning. It’s quiet and very low maintenance. It just…exists and that’s why I have one. It helps that in Colorado, we get $12500 off of EVs. I also got my Y marked down $3k from Tesla. It’s a lot of car for $35k.

[@shadowuaw-0001]

​@@rcktpilotthis is the reason I want to Tesla swap a 2 seater. Something small, simple, and electric for work and back. All I need is 40 miles round trip, each day. Lol

[@carguy7627]

I think a lot of it is how certain groups are pushing for getting rid of ICE vehicles. Like @shadowuaw-0001, "right tool for the job", but if someone feels that others are trying to take away their tools to force another tool then they are going to respond with emotions. For me, EVs don't fit my lifestyle. For my wife they fit hers and I'd have no problem with getting one. I for one hope that carbon sequestration will be a viable option and with affordable biofuels I can have an ICE vehicle until I die.

[@rcktpilot]

@@shadowuaw-0001 the Delorean dudes in Texas have officially EV swapped one! They offer the conversion for any Delorean now. I think they used Tesla hardware. It’s now the fastest Delorean ever.

[@paulgreenhough1910]

why does the thumbnail show a guy with his face in his hands? feels like click bait

[@Athandatu]

It is 😅

[@drumboy256]

It’s a parody of this being the 3rd video…. I think it’s brilliant

[@sturat18]

My wife and I agree our Model 3 (70k miles since new) is the best car we've owned. No surprise the comments are full of similar sentiments. Almost zero issues-- the best daily out there. Why people get *so* hung up on the "Full Self-Driving" name, I'm not sure. It's just a (best in class) driving aid. People look for drama everywhere.

[@huddleen]

Trust me bro, full self driving is right around the corner!! Just pay $12k for the feature!! Pls bro!!

[@CarGeek360]

Model 3 is an amazing vehicle especially used, they are pretty cheap nowadays

[@Cakebattered]

Used Model 3s are very cheap thanks to Hertz.

[@CarGeek360]

@@Cakebattered yea probs

[@te86a]

I wouldn’t ever call it best in class driving aid. It used to be pretty good now it’s pretty garbage. Especially with radar turned off

[@danielwhitaker6566]

I'm in love with my 24 MY Performance and I can say that it's extremely well-built

[@MountainDizzal]

Something you might want to check that you wouldn’t notice and it took me a while. I have a 24 model three performance and the left side mirror trim is way further in than the passenger side.

[@Wankidy]

I have 51000 miles on my 2022 model Y performance. Best car I've owned so far. I drive 2 hours to work and back and charge at home. Just got v12 software update, and FSD V12.3.6 is amazing. Still on original tires with 4/32 treads. Might need new tires soon

[@whuang03]

No way ur MYP with 55k miles still on original tires. Unless you drive with no acceleration. My LR MY needed new tires after 30k miles.

[@ShadowRaptor8]

Love my 2023 Model Y LR. I think it's a great car depending on what you paid for it. For people who paid ~$70k for one, and bought FSD for $15k instead of subscribing for $99.... oof. It's definitely not worth that. But I got mine with the renewed tax credits for $43k and at that price it's great, and $99/month for when I do road trips is definitely palatable.

[@ShadowRaptor8]

Also I agree the ride quality pre 2023 was really bad, the 2023 onwards suspension upgrade is absolutely mandatory. I test drive a MY Performance when shopping in 2022 and my spine almost collapsed

[@mocheen4837]

I have a 2019 Model 3 Performance and my wife purchased a Model Y Performance in December 2023. The build quality and suspension is much better than our Model 3. The cabin is quieter and the materials have greatly improved. I upgraded the suspension on my Model 3 with the Mountain Pass Performance comfort coilovers and changed the wheels to the 20” Zero G rims. The Model 3 absorbs the bumps better now and rides a little smoother. The Model 3 is noticeably faster and handles much better. The Model Y is easier for me to get in and out of. The frunk is larger and I like the rear hatch. The seating position in the Y is also higher and more comfortable on long drives.

[@TheFunkyair]

Edmund is getting better and better each time

[@rmkensington]

Other than his enthusiasm about put me to sleep

[@markplott4820]

EDMUNDS is a fake news Channel.

[@StCreed]

I will consider a Tesla model Y once they give me a HUD or some other speed indicator up front where I am watching the traffic. I don't want to use a side-eye to the right to watch my speed, and we have very aggressive traffic camera and radar locally so it's an absolute must.

[@DR-zk2do]

35,000 miles on our MYP. No service. No problems. No squeaks. Best tech. Rock solid high performance car.

[@rkgsd]

What year?

[@DR-zk2do]

@@rkgsd 2022

[@rkgsd]

@@DR-zk2do I guess it's just a matter of how long you want to own it. The resale value drops to just under half by year 5 and one of the worst by year 10 at only 15 percent of original value. No different than a BMW or Hyundai.

[@DR-zk2do]

@@rkgsd Agree, except unlike say BMW, the drop in resale value of a Tesla is directly related to Tesla dropping the price of new Model Y by approximately $20,000. So I can buy a new MYP today for a lot less than I paid for mine. Takes the sting out of the resale value drop.

[@Gluteus_Maksimus]

I agree with you. I just get so annoyed ​with their new vehicle sale marketing where lets say we see My P for $52k...then add white seats and red color and goes up to 55k and then u click to exclude ( projected gas savings ..etc ) goes up to $62k and when you include taxes and crazy fees ( all kinds ) i gets closer to 67k - $70k easily ..plus if you finance it with today's 7.5% rate at best at the end of paying off journey we will end up paying easily 80k + out of pocket lol...while now I found one MY 22 Performance red color with white interior and only 26k miles on it for just $32 000 , no fees..no finance..boom..with dmv taxes and registration total comes to 36k and you have pink slip in hands...i wish i could go with MYP 24 but honestly those extra digits that add up its like another 30% of the car value at the end : ( must agree that taking over on only 26k driven miles and saving $45-50k in change is pretty drastic. It's just crazy how value goes up and down .. Cheers! @DR-zk2do

[@cgamiga]

Nice balanced review... FSD though is now (month ago!) $8k, not $12k... not sure how you missed that? and, the monthly subscription is half, $99 not $199 (MUCH better deal, as it's not tied to the car and wasted $ if you later sell/trade-in or totalled in accident. You might as well save your money and just pay for the month you test it?) Also, FSD is not so much a "safety system", but... cool gimmick/feature; all the safety systems (emergency braking, sentry cam, others) ARE FREE standard in all Teslas, and even the great highway AutoPilot is free/standard on all models/trims. Newer ModelYs after 2020 also got slightly but notably improved suspension supposedly (and dual-pane front windows to reduce noise)... not NEARLY as marked suspension/ride quality improvement as the refresh "Highland" Model 3 got, which smooths out bumps and road noise a LOT more than the old 3/Y... hope can bring to a refreshed Y soon... meanwhile, the new Model 3 Performance still has the $7.5k tax credit, go buy that :) 5-8% battery degradation in 4yrs/40k miles is... about right, maybe bit high, but as you said have tortured it a bit... biggest degradation comes up front, then it plateaus, so.. probably won't lose much more than a few % more over next years.

[@Wankidy]

That just tells you how out of touch these reviewers are.

[@joeboxerrr]

15 sec in, the review says March 2024, not sure how you missed that?

[@cgamiga]

​@@joeboxerrr​@joeboxerrr thanks, I was going by publish date of video, good point... anyway correction is here, hope they could update their sticky comment at top. Should mention subscription model too

[@DouglasBailey]

What a good follow up video. One note on the range loss is I believe EVs generally have a high fall off early then steady out. I doubt you guys see same level of loss in a future test.

[@philmarsh7723]

So far, my 2024 Model Y AWD long range has been trouble-free and the build quality is almost perfect.

[@JustRollin]

It's good to see they are improving. Nothing like Chrysler 😂

[@icy1007]

FSD on the Model Y is $8,000 not $12,000.

[@markplott4820]

FSD is now just $99/mo.

[@jrich5682]

Or 100/mo right

[@jungtran4990]

@@markplott4820 Good for Naught, our Subaru CrossTrek with what it has is only 2,000.00 And good for a 65-year-old Owner/Driver ... So I would be Nuts to pay 99 dullar monthly... What's a 😂 😂

[@markplott4820]

@@jungtran4990 - any Subaru is NOT Sustainable. TESLA has LOWEST cost of Ownership , over 90% LESS Maintenance . charge @ HOME less than $1 per day.

[@rgen28]

It will be free soon.

[@michaelkim3432]

Sold my '22 MY Performance last week in advance of my Cybertruck delivery. I'll truly miss that car, one of the best all-arounders out there. SUV form factor, loads of room, fastest car I've ever owned (which includes BMW M3, M5, etc.). I didn't have a problem with the ride quality since I was so used to driving sport-tuned BMW's. No serious quality issues either. The minimalist interior really grew on me to the point that I almost feel nauseous getting into a car whose dash is loaded with buttons and switches. I hope my Model Y ends up going to a good home!

[@daveb6969]

Got my CT yesterday… it’s the best!!

[@michaelkim3432]

@@daveb6969 AWD or Beast?

[@daveb6969]

AWD…. Wanted to have the most range possible but it’s still a beast!!!

[@mocheen4837]

I have the 3 and Y Performance models and I like not having to pay for maintenance. I also have a BMW M3 manual with modifications. I normally buy performance vehicles and the Tesla does not disappoint. It offers a very good value for the money. People always make comments that they would rather have an ICE vehicle over an EV. Why can’t you have both? A Tesla for the daily commute and a ICE sports car for the weekends? I do not see why you have to choose one over the other. I also know that when I let people drive my Tesla they like it and end up purchasing one.

[@leok7193]

I've test driven my BMW M4 comp and M3P/MYP back to back and Tesla was nowhere near as fast, so I don't buy it could compete with an M5. It's quicker to shove off with AWD, but heavy and doesn't keep pulling the way BMW does. Maybe you had some 2-generation+ old BMWs, but even in straight line, they're close with M cars being much more exciting.

[@tracykarinp]

The Full Self-Driving suite has been $8,000 for awhile now, not the $12,000 you mentioned in this video just posted 8-days ago. I had a 2020 Model Y Performance with FSD and traded-in for a 2023 Model Y Performance that I purchased new in Sep 2023. The ride quality has been significantly improved and the cabin is much more quieter (no rattles) with the addition of double-pane glass up front and carpeted storage bins, door panels, cargo cover, new center console, heated steering wheel, all-season tires, 16-volt lithium ion battery, AMD Razen processor, and HW 4 with the high-defintion cameras The version of FSD that I have now is v12.3.6 (2024.3.25), which is a giant leap from the previous version with very minimal interventions. I've been an FSD Beta Tester since Oct 21 so have had a lot of experience with FSD. Tesla is closing in incredible fast with perfecting FSD with a massive update (Update 2024.15.5 (FSD 12.4.1) that is currently being released in-house and then to the public.

[@marketbuy]

I recently test drove the 2024 Model Y LR at the Electrify Expo in Long Beach. In total honesty, the 2024 MY still drives like crap compared to my 2023 Nissan Ariya Evolve+. Yes, the 2024 MY is improved BUT you have no idea what the competition is doing until you start test driving other brands. As for FSD, I could care less. I rather hire an Uber driver for $30 ride rather than paying a nose bleed for FSD subscription

[@snowkie]

Beat me to it. Edmunds loses credibility stating it’s 12k for FSD. They’re supposed to be car experts, but this has me wondering.

[@thomasculkin349]

Informative comparison over time. I also very much enjoy the phraseology you use and the clarity of your voice. Nice job!

[@rt.sd712]

My 2021 Model 3 is amazing - no complaints and I also own ICE cars. I love it. I honestly believe the EV hate right now is a complete overreaction. Understand that it's not for everyone, but for a daily commuter there is honestly nothing more cost-effective and affordable right now.

[@pikach8220]

P90d S 2016 here happy takes a beating full charge 274. Never had problems just on 3rd set of tires.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Super! What is you mileage?

[@pikach8220]

@@hereigoagain5050 197,000

[@pikach8220]

197000 miles still going strong.​@@hereigoagain5050

[@NovaPrincess]

That intro 😂😂😂 That awkward moment when you recall being musked.

[@robertsmith6408]

I have owned my Y since March 2021 and i love it. I have done zero maintenance, except pour some washer cleaner fluid in. Battery has not degraded and most of all i have saved 6000 in gas costs over that time, app tracks it. My original tires still have 50 percent on them. This guy complains to much, everybody i know that owns them have zero trouble and love the massive gas saving!

[@jungtran4990]

How much you have paid for the Tessie M0ron Model Y in 2021? Saving 6,000.00 since 2021 or Annually? My Older Bro bought a Lexus N200x since 2014 cost him 25,000.00 US Dullars; driven Oil Changes 40 dullars annually... The Car paid for itself ... So what how much for Gasoline? The Difference between your Tessie M0r0ns Model Y and his Lexus; his wife bought NVDA and some top Stocks like Microsoft, Meta... They can now go buy another Lexus/Camry Hybrid... And the Gasolines cost per year is about double of what you would have paid for Electric Powers... Driving around and about = Alaska Highway, Highway 1 Between Mountains and Mountains with 2 Charging Stations available... C'est La Vie... If you say you bought a Tessie Mor0n because you like that like Liar In Chief Elon-gate = but if you said you have said on Gasolines vs... Electric ... Stop there because it is a Joke to say so... Yes the Lexus after 10 years still cost nothing but Regular Oil Changes = 40 dullars,,, And other routine Maintenance. There is an Engineer, Having Worked/Working for Toyoda America/Canada; he bought a Lexus SC 430 Coupe Model 2004; 20 year-old Lexus Made in Japan ... All the Retouching and Tuning up and the Price of that Car from first Owner; he paid around 20k Canadian Dullars and he = as a Car Engineer, said he is happy and impressed with the Used car that he bought; and in fact has posted more than 5 Posts in KZbin about his ICE Lexus SC 430 ... "Beauty in The Eye of the Beholder"; buy what you like and buy from Company has more than 50 years of Excellence not of Elon-gate Ranting/Nuts... Regards...

[@marketbuy]

Congrats. Your 2021 Y is worth ZILCH. Now go pat yourself on the back

[@ymcpa73]

@@jungtran4990 $25k? So, he bought it used and you are comparing it to a new car. Go buy a used Model Y and then compare the two cars. Not fair comparing used to new. You have cheap oil changes. In my area it would cost twice that amount. Even with a Lexus, it's not just oil changes. You have brakes (Tesla hardly ever changes the brakes due to regen braking), oil pump, fuel pump, alternator, all kind of sensors, etc that could fail over a 10 year period. That $6k was since 2021. No one drives so much that they will save $6k annually.

[@ymcpa73]

@@marketbuy If the car still drives, it has value.

[@marketbuy]

@@ymcpa73 Renewing car registration and car insurance year after year isn’t cheap especially when the residual value on his 2021 Tesla has been decimated

[@bearlemley]

We have been running our MYP for a year now. We made such a great decision to sell off our Ford Everest. The ford was a good car but it doesn’t compare well with the MYP. Going out of our way to get to a diesel station was an expensive and a pain but so was all the service with 2 diffs, a transmission (the notorious 10R80) and transfer case. Plus brake service and coolant. Maybe going slightly above the recommended service (meant to just barely make it to end of warranty ) kept us out of the shop for major repairs but it just could do as much as the model Yp. Besides having more room during weekend get a ways out costs have dropped sharply. We are going to buy a second.

[@kevinwng]

20,000 miles on our Model Y dual motor so far. No issues. Took it on a 1600mi (round trip total) road trip not long ago and it went smoothly. Supercharger stops along the way coincided with bathroom breaks, food, and stretching legs so it worked out well.

[@JustRollin]

I got the same setup. I expected road trips to be a major pain, but so far they've all been great.

[@SnowbirdSteeze]

2021 MYP - have just under 80k miles since brand new. Issues: - car was delivered with broken plastic around windshield - seats had to be replaced under warranty - -40 degrees F temps the car needs to be garaged otherwise it won’t take a charge. - at just under 80k miles I had to replace the battery under warranty. - The car goes through tires, but I’m heavy on the foot. I probably had to go through 4 sets.

[@travelvlog2022]

I have a 2022 myp has 217 m range on 80% charge.

[@paulshoover]

Good recap. Only thing is you say fsd beta is 12k. It's now 8,000 and also with the new V12 I'd welcome your thoughts on self driving now. Keep up the great car reviews!

[@mattspalace]

2.5yrs with my MYP and zero regrets. Add an adjustable suspension and it would be darn near perfect. Still have an ICE vehicle too, because being in one camp or another is for dummies.

[@johnreese3762]

Very well done and fair, thanks!

[@DM-lc6pp]

FSD is incredible on Last Version also it’s $99/month or $8000 Have to try last version 12.xx

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

These things are starting to come onto the used market now, often at steep discounts, so I'm looking forward to seeing the results of your test.

[@lyinarbaeldeth2456]

Hey, that battery/range did much better than I expected! The deteriorating trim and interior is a big turn-off, though. Might be worth waiting for the newer generation cars to come into the used market.

[@streetmoney21]

Fair review. Also have to note that wind conditions also impact range and the vehicle will let you know how much of an impact it is. My MYP is a 2022 and I agree that Tesla has improved the build quality a lot. I have a colleague who bought a new MYP same color as mine and his build quality was way better minus no parking sensors and cheaper rear calipers. I’m use to still ride quality as I’ve always drove high performance vehicles. I like the tight steering and nothing moves like a high performance EV. I subscribed to FSD as it’s cheaper than buying it out right. $99 a month and I use it for my work commute and weekend trips. Version 12 is really good and it makes the long drives easier to deal with. Worth the money if you have a long commute to work or take weekend trips out of town. The residual value is horrific. I paid 70K out the door and Tesla offered less than 28K on trade 😂 this has me really rethinking about how I manage my fleet. I still have my 2013 Honda Accord Touring and it’s paid off in good shape. No plan to sell it. I will keep the MYP as well after paying it off because the maintenance so far has been insanely low. Tired are expensive but that’s to be expected for a high performance vehicle. The free software updates keep the car fresh. I will just do a short term lease on a new Tesla and keep my MYP for long commutes and road trips. There are Tesla vehicles out there with 100’s of thousands of miles and they are still going strong. Makes no sense to give a good vehicle away for next to nothing.

[@RichardShelton]

I live in an older neighborhood in Tucson, AZ. We were told by the local electric company that more than 3 EV's charging in our neighborhood will crash the entire area.

[@judyArsh]

Don’t believe the hype. They are talking about the fastest charger you can install. That would also require a bigger breaker panel which the utility wont allow if the local network can’t handle it. There are different levels of chargers. The mid tier is just a dryer plug and will charge up overnight. Using a lower level charger is also easier on the battery pack.

[@JBoy340a]

Charging at higher speed uses less power than AC and using an oven or stove top. If you and your neighbors can cook and run the AC at the same time you are fine. Also you can set the start and end time. Since I am cheap I plug in when I get home and set the car to star charging at 9 PM or later when the rates have dropped because grid usage is low.

[@ousiosaeturn3559]

I can't wait to get my model y rwd long range

[@raymondwong2521]

My 2018 Model X P100D with 104,000 miles retains 91.2% of its original range. Also, we never never ever see anywhere close to the range that Tesla officially states. So, take it with a grain of salt. 3% supercharging annually and I regularly charge it up to only 80%, unless for long trips to only 95% and NEVER have I charged it to 100%. Still only retain 91.2% of its original capacity. I just hope that when the time for the battery going dead arrives, I won't have to pay a hefty fee for dumping it or recycling it. That would be a bummer.

[@ymcpa73]

Depends on where you drive. I have a model S. My daily drive is mostly on canyon roads at 50 mph and some freeway driving usually in traffic. My car is averaging 261 kw/mi. That equates to about 383 miles. When it's just canyon driving, I'm getting about 230 kw/mi, or 434 miles. My car has the 21" wheels and is supposed to get 375 miles per the EPA. So, on those kind of drives, I'm exceeding the EPA estimates. Now on road trips at 75-80 mph, I'm getting about 290kw/mi or 340 miles. Now in real world driving, you normally aren't charging past 80% and not going below 20%. So, the distance between charges is lower than the EPA range. My car is a 2020 and has 50k miles on it. So far, I have just 1% degradation because for daily driving I actually keep it at 65%. We'll see how it does when it gets to 100k miles. I doubt you will have issues with the battery. Even when the battery is no longer any good for driving, it will still have value for home energy storage. So, you won't be dumping it. I also doubt recycling will cost anything. I have recycled the batteries for a universal power supply and no one has every charged us anything.

[@JustRollin]

My Y dual motor LR seems has exceeded the range on multiple trips even with me driving above what I should be. Are you in a cold climate?

[@rkgsd]

My roommate had a 2021 Y with the same sunvisor issue. Mobile service replaced it for free.

[@roncedad7032]

2023 model y new I reported that moisture in tail light tesla tried to tell me that's normal....

[@konacopia]

That’s terrible 😮

[@RxPharmer]

See if you can get a different service center. It's not normal. They will replace it under warranty. I got mine done on my Model 3 at around 20k miles.

[@roncedad7032]

Thank you

[@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife]

My model Y is two months old. Moisture in the tail light after a car wash😂😂😂. Still a great daily driver BTW

[@2012bigPerm]

@@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife hilarious...

[@marketbuy]

My Nissan Ariya Evolve+ FWD does consistently 310-330 miles of range on a 95% charge. This is based on 70% city and 30% hwy driving. EPA is 289++ miles. Ariya drives buttersmooth with super quiet cabin. I currently have nearly 19K miles. I may need new tires at 23K miles. I drive it like I stole it. 😂. It’s not the fastest but I rather have great driving experience with my Ariya than a loud bumpy and harsh ride Model Y

[@PerformanceY]

Can someone explain what is performance upgrade for MYP?

[@tracykarinp]

The addition of performance brakes upfront, lower suspension, 21" Uberturbine wheels and 0-60 in 3.5 secs.

[@PerformanceY]

@@tracykarinp Thats normal performance

[@Techridr]

All I needed to see was the thumbnail to see the disappointment. I love mine, but they're not for everyone.

[@ronl2463]

My model y is best car for the way and distance I drive. It’s 3 years old and only thing done to it is new wiper blades. Charge at home with 14/50 plug installed in garage for $250 and $50 plug from Tesla. 4 miles per kw , $0.107 per kw. Vehicle it replaced Toyota Tacoma that needed a new seat cover and new fuel pump (recall) before 10,000 miles. What is quality? I don’t measure body gaps so unless something sticks out it’s ok with me but a fuel pump failure wouldn’t be.

[@dangrass]

Yup, these cars are extremely reliable and durable....and Toyotas are hugely overrated.

[@mustangdaddy4125]

Out of Spec Reviews did a comparison test between a 30,000 and 100,000 mile 3 performance and saw no significant difference in speed and times😊. I’ve seen times of 12.1 to 12.4 quarter mile times on brand new Y Performances at 113 miles at the speed tracks. Put lighter wheels on it and you will be back under 12 seconds in the quarter mile 😊 those Uber turbines are lead weights 😮

[@georgevigil7001]

Drivers like this are the reason I’m buying new 😂

[@NovaPrincess]

With the cost of a used car these days, if you have cash, there's zero reason to buy anything other than new... unless you're talking a Tesla since the value of those drops like a hot rock. I'm talking Toyotas.

[@konacopia]

@@NovaPrincess just saw a review of how much a used 2023 Model Y Long Range with only 7k on the odometer and its residual value dropped $23k. EVs in general don’t hold their value across the board…it’s just not as bad as Tesla because they’ve been aggressively reducing their sticker prices on their models, especially the Model Y since it’s the last in their range to be updated.

[@johnlocke3481]

@@NovaPrincessTeslas don’t depreciate faster than anything else, that’s your lack of understanding. You get a $7500 instant tax credit discount which counts towards that “depreciation” people refer to. People also FOMOed into $70k Model Y’s durring Covid. Yeah, they lost their butts and I feel for them, but that isn’t “depreciation.” That’s people overpaying when they should have waited.

[@georgevigil7001]

@@johnlocke3481 This!

[@Lendingyourlight]

@@georgevigil7001I’m getting mine today with $7500 and $3500 tax incentives right off the top. So long 2023 Palisade

[@rkgsd]

Well if they say the most battery degradation occurs in the first 50K miles, 5% would be about right. What we don't know is how often you charged it to 100%. Another factor is how far down the battery was drained. It's not recommended to drain past 15-20%. We don't have any of that data. Tesla has a built in battery health tester. Edmubds should be using that as well.

[@johnm2879]

19" wheels would help ride a lot.

[@GRSEMETROMALL]

11 races in 4 years? That’s a lot? 😂. Hell I’ve gotten the conversations on the interstate, 4 in a week and definitely for a month.

[@markmercieca5569]

You did not mention you can lease the FSD Supervised for $99 a month.

[@DriftKr6l]

That B pillar gap 😂 on a $68K car 😅

[@brianfarley4372]

The Tesla Model Y was the best selling car in the world last year. if you're hear bashing this car your either ignorant or a troll. And you can get FSD now for $99/month. Not worth buying

[@flashsushi1843]

Did we really save money by not having the fill up with gasoline but subjected to steeper depreciation ( vis-a-vis gasoline car depreciation)?

[@katherinesilens2994]

Most of the depreciation on these cars, which were released 4 years ago, is due to a combination of price cuts and the instant value-off of tax credits. When you take those factors out they actually hold value annoyingly well, as anyone who's shopped for a used one and compared it to the real price of a new car knows. If you get 7,500 back on a new car and last year's used cars are less than 7,500 off... it's only depreciated in the technically correct sense. That said, price cuts still do result in loss of residual for those who bought when it was ~80k during the pandemic hike. That pattern shouldn't continue, and it was known to be a temporary thing during that time, but still sucks. I wouldn't expect that to continue; the next hit should just be the mid-life refresh called Juniper. The real cost is insurance and tires. My insurance is good and I'm definitely saving a boatload of money in comparison to alternatives I was considering, but the whole market is strange right now still.

[@shou635]

Even if I didn’t save money on my EV vs gas, I still prefer the EV and the money going to that instead of just burning fuel.

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

Yes, we did.

[@ymcpa73]

Yes, because depreciation isn't real until you sell the car. If you keep it long term, it doesn't matter at all.

[@bobbbobb4663]

Chief Engineer babysmurf9000!

[@philmarsh7723]

I could have bought the FSD option for $8K but declined. It appears that FSD would not transfer to new Teslas and I would not use it except for highway travel. Might be better to pay-as-you-go for FSD and purchase only for the months were you do a lot of highway driving e.g. road trips.

[@davejohnson6144]

Old Tesla suspension is the worst! Interior creaks and rattles is terrible in the 2022 and older Teslas too

[@konacopia]

The downside of early adoption 😢

[@RxPharmer]

I have a 2021model 3 performance with 72k miles. I don't have any creaks and rattles. I also take care of all my vehicles though.

[@davejohnson6144]

@@RxPharmer I’m anxiously waiting for delivery of my 2024 Model 3 Performance. I’m praying it doesn’t have any creaks and rattles !🙏

[@RxPharmer]

@@davejohnson6144 It should be good!! Reject delivery if it has any major issues! It looks like a fantastic car. I would love to upgrade to the new body style, but I'm really just waiting on the CT lol

[@davejohnson6144]

@@RxPharmer that’s the problem, Tesla doesn’t let you test drive the car unless you accept the car and at that point it’s yours in good or in bad . I took delivery of our new 2023 MY and after driving it off the lot, damn thing had some minor creaks and rattles which annoy the hell out of me ! Car drives great other than that but those noises dont make me love it like my old quiet Lexus that has no interior noises 😏

[@DateJust89]

There’s no performance upgrade for a Model Y Performance. Wonder where he got that from.

[@SUB-Entertainment]

No one complain because tesla people are now immune to it. They learned to live like this. It still have issues but not reported

[@cp37373]

Calm down, fake news.

[@ymcpa73]

People always report major issues. Minor issues like panel gaps, no one really cars about. They might complain initially because they paid so much for the car. Every car has pros and cons, but I believe my Tesla has more pros than cons.

[@slyguyaction]

FSD is now $8k and also available as a cancel anytime subscription for $99/month. Where are you getting your FSD pricing from?

[@TheFunkyair]

the car is still running after 4 years of Edmunds' guys

[@georgevigil7001]

That’s like 150k miles of wear on a 50k mile car 😂

[@travelvlog2022]

What’s your current range.? I have range of 217 miles on a 25k miles model y performance 2022

[@GRSEMETROMALL]

Four years and 40,000 miles? Nah, most people have driven 60,000. And me personally, 100,000. Not good. You all need to drive the damn cars.

[@mustangdaddy4125]

I have 63,000 miles on my 2021 Y performance since June of 2021. Presently, 100 percent is 262 miles battery max charge and highway average at around 73 to 74 miles per hour traveling 249 miles distance is 3.82 miles per kilowatt using 65 kw of the battery. I do have the Gemini wheels without aero caps with continental all season tires and my dragy recorded 3.62 to 60 miles per hour. Those Uber turbines are lead weights 😮.

[@mustangdaddy4125]

Put Carlos back in the car he is a lighter driver and would probably get better performance numbers 😊

[@jefferrrson1x]

I love my Model Y Long Range. The Tesla brand is still by far elite compared to others at the price point. They are way ahead in tech and simply put, the simplicity of the interior is to me, the best. Just an all around great car.

[@DerekDavis213]

No dashboard, and no Turn Signal Stalk. Such wonderful *simplicity* . 😏

[@Aztasu]

OMG another non-informed Tesla fanboy. Tesla is crazy outdated and they bend over customers left and right with their low build quality and weak customer service. Tesla is for losers

[@jefferrrson1x]

@@DerekDavis213 oh no turn signals. What could possibly go wrong. Oh nooooo.

[@cp37373]

@@Aztasu just tell us you’re too poor to forward one. It’s OK to be poor like you.😂

[@AlanTrades]

Lots of curb rash on those induction wheels lol

[@katherinesilens2994]

Those are Uberturbines. The Performance comes with 21s. Inductions are the 20s that come as an option on LR/SR.

[@AlanTrades]

@@katherinesilens2994 they look the same, probably rides worse tho!

[@AlanTrades]

That's why the long range is significantly better. Even after 10 % degradation it's still over 300 miles

[@katherinesilens2994]

You should do more research. LR is also short from figure when new. If you're rangemaxing, you'd actually do marginally better with a Performance swapped to 19in wheels which is a very easy changeover.

[@timangie4538]

Update: Full Self Driving is $8,000 now.

[@ourkaravan]

Best car I've ever owned and makes it difficult to drive anything else.

[@DerekDavis213]

Toyota Camry Hybrid, 630 miles on a tank of gas. Excellent build quality, and a full dashboard. Much nicer than a Tesla.

[@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife]

Yes, Camry hybrid is a great car. But you still end up at a gas station. For daily driving, those that can charge at home leave will all the miles they need. I honestly think the RAV4 PHEV is a better buy that the Camry, though

[@DerekDavis213]

@@ThreeDogsTwoCatsAndAWife Charging at home is great, but *100* *million* Americans cannot charge at home. For those people, Camry Hybrid is ideal. RAV4 is a tin can, not of the same quality as Camry. Would you agree?

[@ourkaravan]

@@DerekDavis213 Go drive these back-to-back and see which a much more entertaining car to drive.

[@johnlocke3481]

@@DerekDavis213 yeah but the Camry has what we refer to in the industry as “negative sex appeal.” I don’t want to see my wife’s boyfriend any more than I have to.

[@JI814]

11 races? You mean 11 times you've romped on it for a 1/4 mile drag or slalom? That seems way gentler than daily driving over the course of three years.

[@ymcpa73]

It's also being used by staff daily. That's how it got 40k miles on it.

[@donkeytonks6466]

My 2022 Model 3 LR has been absolutely flawless with over 55,000 miles on it now. Still getting 95% capacity on the battery as well. Won't buy anything else but Tesla

[@AlanTrades]

Wow 55k miles on 2 years? Are you an Uber? Do you charge to 100 every time?

[@donkeytonks6466]

@@AlanTrades 80% daily and I uber a little but not much

[@usmcsaxoki]

Unfortunately "You Really Need to be Attentive and Ready to Take Over at All Times Driving" or "YRNARTOATD" just doesn't sound as good as FSD.

[@ge_song5]

What's the resell value for the Y?

[@shanewilfon6860]

Better than American ice trash. 😂

[@hwirtwirt4500]

About 1/3 of the original cost.

[@katherinesilens2994]

KBB is estimating red 2020 Y Performance @40K, Very Good at $27k trade in and $30k private sale. FSD not included in that estimate; FSD bumps it to $30k and $34k estimated respectively. I rounded down. At $68k, the car has retained about 39% of value as a trade in and 44% of its value privately (ignoring FSD, since it's not worth it). With the same options (except FSD) today it costs $55k new.

[@markmercieca5569]

You can get some great prices and also the 4K in federal incentives on second hand. Mostly anyone can get a good Tesla today....

[@mhsohel47]

The FSD package is now $8,000 not 12k

[@USNEM]

And it's still dog shit, and a rip off

[@yuzhou1]

Apparently they don’t even check the website and call themselves car journalists 😂

[@mhsohel47]

@@yuzhou1 They are so lazy and slow that may be the shoot it before the price cut lol.

[@RobertHenry-if9um]

And still useless

[@mhsohel47]

@@RobertHenry-if9um But the comment wast not about the working or not, it's about spreading misinformation about pricing. Endmunds should do better research. And Yes FSD is not perfect but it's getting better.

[@Landshark9]

If FSD was called Full Co-pilot it would be a 9/10, but selling it as Self Driving makes it a 6/10..

[@sg618342]

When he mentioned that it has a stiff ride because of the very low profile tires and sports suspension, he should have also mentioned that many BMW's and Porsche's also have a similar ride.

[@Enriquecido316]

Crazy you havent mentioned how much better FSD is since april. Or that its 8k. But then again its easy to tell where you stand on Teslas

[@gaydybwad1321]

The FSD software edition needs to be listed as it is changing nearly weekly.

[@ev.c6]

FSD is the greatest rip off of all times. Doesn’t work and Elmo promised a lot and didn’t deliver. He should get out of Twitter and really work to deliver what he promised.

[@davekozlowski1266]

​@@ev.c6I have to disagree with you. My Tesla is running version 12.3.6 and I'm really thankful for it! I Had a stroke last year and quit driving because of it, however with FSD and it's abilities I'm now able to drive safely again. Looking forward to getting version 12.4.

[@keithgorrell6974]

Performance, performance. What the heck is the add on performance?

[@ericn3221]

My how things change. FSD is now very good.

[@urbanstrencan]

How is holding together, and service bills 😄?

[@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast]

11 races lol. My c7z has 27k miles and has been raced for 7000 of those miles on a road course. 11 races is less than 3 miles. I think it's fine

[@joel89039]

ya my model 3 gets floored several times every single time I get in it haha. Multiple track days as well

[@ALMX5DP]

@@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast I presume you don’t actually mean racing but HPDE track time? That’s like 70-100 hours of on track time to accumulate that many miles! Holy smokes that’s quite a lot of events (like 30-40?).

[@tribalypredisposed]

Uhm, FSD is now $8,000, not $12,000.

[@matthew4725]

FSD is $8,000 now, not $12,000.

[@markmercieca5569]

Elon needs to send you the Cybertruck, you are going to cream over it.

[@hwillia204]

Damn, ford blue cruise cannot drive autonomously either, nowhere near Tesla FSD! And includes Lucid dreamseive doesn't work and BMW/Mercedes and waymo remotely controlled geo maps limited!

[@jl.4317]

The Tesla drivetrain and electronics package is still superior to all the other EV’s despite some trim/body issues. Long term a Tesla will outlast the competition.

[@stephengneri2136]

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[@BBingo-v5i]

Loool Tesla is totally outdated and quality is trash

[@zheega2184]

Teslas are underperforming their promised range more than the competition and it looks like they also lose battery capacity with age faster than the competition. Tesla doesn't have any special batteries, they buy them from Panasonic, LG and CATL like everyone. My guess is that they are just running their batteries harder in order to get more range for the specific battery size, hurting longevity and reliability in the process.

[@TheBowerbird]

@@zheega2184 Your battery capacity bit is absolute nonsense pulled out of your arse. Teslas have fantastic long term battery aging characteristics.

[@Dou6.2]

@@TheBowerbirdno

[@dugintexas7908]

FSD is $8,000 ... not $12,000. On the Tesla site right now.

[@Deetroiter]

So, essentially, you’ve ragged the life out of it for the last 4 years…and it’s still driving perfectly fine. We get it. It’s currently cool and trendy to bash Tesla.

[@DerekDavis213]

There are many good reasons to bash Tesla. Trendy has nothing to do with it.

[@willkaufman363]

It's been cool and trendy to bash Tesla for, oh, a decade now. It really never goes out of style. It's like a black dress or workers' rights.

[@cp37373]

@@DerekDavis213 the facts aren’t on your side. Get over it.

[@nomadnoyh]

FSD $8000 now...has been for a month

[@tsmatthx2]

40,000 miles in 4 years is weak as hell. My bolt euv has 17,000 miles since Jan. 13th lol of this year...

[@LithiumLife]

Lots of misinformation. The new model 3 performance is the only trim of 2024 3 that does get the tax credit & also FSD has been $8000 for about 2 months , not $12k anymore

[@DannerBanks]

Also, why did he say he got the performance upgrade on top of his performance trim? On the 3 you can't buy the performance boost if you have the performance model. Not sure what this guy is smoking

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

@@CMUBruin No matter how you spin it, there never was an extra performance upgrade on top of the performance trim. The statement in the video simply doesn't make any sense.

[@twothbeave]

You guys are so lame. FSD is 8K now. And please your test versus everything else shows what a complete joke any other system is. It’s unbelievable how lame your “conclusions” were. No other auto pilot system can you tell take me here and the car will just go there. We frequently do 50 mile commutes with zero interventions. Now with the removal of the steering wheel nag (which you fail to mention a thing about V 12 updates) you need only pay attention to the road. If a car can do that it most certainly is full self driving. The fact that it makes you pay attention is purely a function of the NHTSA’s demands due to people who are incapable of understanding that they need to still monitor the situation as it still develops. Meanwhile no one else is even in the same universe in providing such a system. And WTF is the deal with the reporter with his face in his hands like the car is terrible as the header picture? Just shows your anti Tesla prejudice. Unbelievable.

[@lordjoshr]

The batteries like abuse, I drive the crap out of my ‘18 M3P like all 90,000 miles has seen 100mph each trip, I floor it pretty much every time I take off. And I’ve lost 12 miles of range in 6 years.

[@NotApplicable-um9re]

Hope you’re trolling or outside the US. Otherwise you don’t deserve a driving license.

[@AlanTrades]

But do you limit charging to 80?

[@InspirationLabs-ff8vf]

awesome explanation of your experience of owning a model Y. I feel like the range is too low and and battery degradation to high. It would be impractical as a daily driver

[@sturat18]

How long is your commute, dawg?

[@markmercieca5569]

How far do you drive each day?

[@GenRicOpekc]

The quality keeps going up, the Tesla’s technology keeps going up, and it’s reliability keeps going up.

[@DerekDavis213]

But FSD is still a simple Level 2 assistant. It is not going up.

[@Aztasu]

What technology lol. Tesla is missing STANDARD tech like a augmented reality HUD, V2G/V2L, 800V architecture etc.

[@cp37373]

@@Aztasu pure ignorance on display

[@GenRicOpekc]

Learn about Tesla’s autonomous learning approach. Listen to Tesla’s AI engineers, Jensen Huang or Fei Fei Li. The world is changing my friends.

[@CropCircleCritic]

We owned a Model Y for nearly 3 years. The following is a PSA for anyone considering any EV: -The digital key sucked -The AC sucked. Felt hot on even a spring day with the AC “blasting” & takes up to 120 seconds to actually cool the air. -Average $1,000 per year in tires. No, we don’t drive crazy. -2 tow trucks for unforeseen issues (ICE to the rescue when the Magic School Bus episode is over) -15% range degradation at 2.5 years -average $151/month electricity cost to charge it -$350/month for Tesla Insurance because the car erroneously generates collision warnings for parked cars on the street and people on sidewalks. -$1,000 deductible times 2 ($2,000 total) for windshields because the Tesla acoustic glass is easy to internally shatter from the same road debris that just scratches a normal windshield. So yes, we are on our third windshield. -in total it was $4,500 in maintenance in 3 years for a “maintenance-free” car -the car pulled more than its entire battery capacity from the charger during the last freeze, so I can’t leave it in the airport parking garage for a couple days in the winter -the rear windows (where the cars panel gas are) randomly rolled themselves down while the car was parked & unoccupied and would not roll back up without manual override. This happened once every few days and we have narrowly avoided this happening during thunderstorms. -multiple screen cutouts while driving on the freeway & one uncommanded software update that left my wife stranded for 30 minutes -minor injuries to my wife because of full-force phantom braking on the freeway -at least 2 instances of pressing the “accelerator” down and the motors not engaging. -2 month loss of use of the backseat due to seat belt buckles being jammed A spade is a spade. The Model Y is a dangerous lemon, and I was thrilled to get rid of it, even being $13,000 upside down in it. I truly wish you better fortune but I will never get an EV ever again.

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

2/10 lies

[@CropCircleCritic]

@@Tschacki_Quacki okay soy boy. Keep telling yourself that when someone takes a wrecking ball to your confirmation bias.

[@garyclark6747]

Can’t wait for your four year CyberTruck ownership wrap up to see if “Full Self Driving” ever makes it to reality. 😏 11:38

[@MXPMYP]

FSD is $8k and not $12k

[@raymondwong2521]

I can't believe people buy NEW 2024 model year Teslas actually. The newer Model 3 and Model Y long range AWD version both see their range revised downward again just last week. And with Tesla recommended charging of no more than 80%, the stated range of Model Y LR AWD of 308 is reduced to 246 miles. That is not what we call a "long range" model. And if you get the Model Y LR AWD with the 20 inch rims and tires package, the range is further decreased to just 287 miles. and 80% recommended charging of that further reduce the usable range to 229 miles only. Forget it. But, if people are buying the older Teslas, I think at least they are much cheaper to get their toes into the EV world. Yet, don't forget eventually the batteries will die and it is still a big question mark how to recycle the enormous amount of dead batteries and who will do it and for how much.

[@ymcpa73]

You don't own an EV do you? For daily driving, the range doesn't matter. I plug in daily and the car is charged up every morning. So, 246 is more than enough for daily driving. On road trips, I charge to 100% right before I leave. On a trip from LA to Las Vegas, we stopped at Primm, NV to charge 270 miles away. It still had 15% charge. That is 317 miles of range on freeway driving. Daily driving is in traffic and the range is actually even higher. I exceed the EPA range on daily driving. Now you are correct that for trips over 500 miles, the range will be less because it doesn't make any sense to charge past 80% on a supercharger. The charging speed slows too much. So, after the initial 300 miles of range, you will get about 200 miles from each charge. So, the Vegas trip required just a 10 min charge, but a 1000 mile road trip would require about 1 hour of charging. I take trips like that maybe once in 3 years. 95% of my driving is local.

[@sd3564]

But leave it to Tesla they are the worlds best automotive company most innovative professionals ever crazy thing is everybody I know who owns Tesla all traded the vehicles in and I love the model why but I did not like it when I drove it

[@constantinedimopoulos1110]

2500 dollars for red paint? That is ridiculous.

[@DekhoAmericaUSA]

40000...u r driving like u leasing

[@commbubba1990]

What happened to the interior? The interior B pillar has a huge gap to the roof and the rear ‘hook’ is missing. Typical Tesla quality.

[@timsailors]

Bullshit I own one and the quality is fine.

[@commbubba1990]

@@timsailors hahahaha