The Menendez Brothers’ Fight for Freedom | Full Episode

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[@cliftonbowers6376]

Rosie and I thank you great program❤😢

[@jakeknapp6833]

Hey 48 hours wish those brothers or what if the timeline alternate if these brothers should never exist and not commit crimes

[@AnaPeraza-qv8uu]

TAMBIEN. RICKY. MARTY. LO. ABUSARON. SEXUALMENTE. FREE. MENENDEZ. FREE. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@larissaaraujo5633]

biased episode

[@larissaaraujo5633]

great episode

[@dorcasmalorcas]

"Did you ask him not to" is such a fukked up question to ask someone raped by their father.

[@danielllleX]

UNACCEPTABLE 🤮

[@kaykaystern]

Being someone who is a survivor of sexual abuse for the years between age 5-12...i couldn't imagine saying a single word to the monster who abused me back then, you feel so secluded and that something horrible would happen if I said anything. That question urkes tf outta me

[@dorcasmalorcas]

@@kaykaystern I'm so sorry for what your body was subjected to, I can imagine how much that question was hurtful for you to hear

[@oliwia2104]

literally insane to ask,most rape victims say “No” and what… they still get raped what kind of question was that.. asked by a woman too.

[@kendallevans4079]

That whole sexual abuse BS was a Hail Mary pass thrown by the defense council. He knew their goose was cooked and just threw out ANYTHING to try and put doubt in the juries mind

[@mommybear2]

For them to say that Jose was not the "type" of person to sexually abuse his children is utterly asinine. As a young (22 yrs old) nurse I was raped by a well respected doctor. Don't talk to me about "type."

[@jeremysmith9694]

Did you ask him not to?

[@nbaoldgirl]

Sending you genuine loving vibes ❤ Thank you for being a nurse and a survivor.

[@pauls4923]

@@jeremysmith9694what a ridiculous question…take a wild guess

[@jeremysmith9694]

@@pauls4923 why would I guess when I can ask her? I wasn't there.

[@truss6282]

I highly doubt it.

[@Combateffective]

As a survivor of rape by my older brother when I was 11. I can fully relate to the brothers and how they handled the trauma. For years I had a rage that would burn for a short period and then I would simply mentally push it down and act like a fully normal kid. It's only by the grace of God that I never killed anyone or killed myself.

[@surlygirly1926]

Thank you for this insight. I believe the brothers, but had difficulty understanding the murderous meltdown. This has helped alot.

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

I am so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are doing well now.

[@JenniferNewLife144]

oh wow, I am sorry you endured that

[@Lila22.11]

Blessings to you ❤

[@carlywright5127]

What can we say. Many of us understand. You have every right to be angry. Do not let him, his action take over your life. He was himself probably abused. Stay ok.

[@michellerojas5031]

The lady in the pink is probably the type of person to hide something like this if it happened in her family. With the way she’s talking so dismissive to the brothers but so understanding to the parents???

[@luisafrance1635]

💯💯💯

[@michellescarborough16]

I agree.

[@melaniebradford5583]

Agreed

[@melaniebradford5583]

Lady in Pink is crazy. First of one was 18 the other 21. Still young adults. So they spent some of their dad's money. What would you do at that age? If it was still going on when Erik was 18 his dad did have a hold on them and they felt threatened. I would too

[@anabelasoares2835]

She's the DA and uncle are clueless, uncle should have protected the brothers

[@komal.]

People saying that they're grown men who could leave... my husband was physically abused by his father, and to this day, his father has the weirdest hold on him. He still fears him like a child but still won't leave him. Abuse has different effects on different people.

[@kp5844]

Stockholm Syndrome

[@shanenicole9552]

Those people just don't understand trauma 😭

[@totis1777]

Exactly, the abuser takes control of body and soul. The terror instilled in childhood is very difficult to banish, which is why the victim usually behaves as if no time has passed with respect to their abuser.

[@f4ckyousl4g]

I think people also forget that during that time, the menendez brothers had a mental capacity of 8-10 year olds, this was found out because they took some sort of phycological tests.

[@lvettesonai]

People saying that obviously have never suffered at the hand of people you love.

[@denisebenedict6102]

One thing that should have never happened is for the same Judge to preside over both trials.

[@louisejeffries7155]

Absolutely agree

[@michellecook-hill]

TRUTH!!!!!

[@vegasbaby3669]

100% agreed

[@danijacks__]

if they changed the jury and the boys even had changed lawyers ,, the judge definitely should have been

[@acc4465]

How do you even think of something so ridiculous?

[@louiseb3491]

Sins of the father and silence of the mother.

[@KKimmu88]

You do know that the mother was raping Lyle right??? The mum was silent because the mum was also in on it.

[@keithabney4665]

yep. mom was strung out on Xanax occasionally being the look-out in case friends or relatives wandered down the hallway while Jose had his boys in the bedroom.

[@averyt6521]

Momma

[@Thrivinbwoy]

Always seems to be the case doesn’t it ?

[@carolinanavarro3092]

The parents had it coming ...

[@manifestedbeauty]

I'll never ever understand Kitty's silence... She knew. She knew and did nothing. Lyle and Eric deserve justice and their freedom.

[@katielove8874]

People are claiming she was touching the sons aswell, she’s disgusting just like the father

[@diannegray2384]

Taking in to account what Lyle said about him n his mother touching each other in bed it's not that surprising

[@whitecornelia12]

True!!! A normal “good” mother will defend and protect her children. Kitty never did instead was blind and enabler to husbands abuse to their children

[@SAFFIA444]

KNew? She had trophy photos.

[@desotohybrid2175]

You ppl are crazy 😂

[@GabriellaRodriguezx23]

My mother was molested by her step father at the age of 15…my mother had me at the age of 18. She was young, but very protective and very concerned with my wellbeing at all times. I forget the reasoning, however, she left me with her grandmother for maybe an hour or less to get an errand done. When she returned, she realized her uncle was in the house, and my grandmother had explained that he had recently changed my diaper…after my mother specifically asked all family members to never let ANY males, other than my father, change my diaper. My mother grabbed a knife and confronted her uncle and continuously asked him if he had touched me inappropriately. She immediately took me home and blew up on my great grandmother. You have to understand…trauma will make anyone crazy and will fuel something in them that others who haven’t endured that trauma, could ever understand. I am so grateful for the mother I was blessed with. She didn’t deserve what happened to her…but I will say, it instilled a protection over my brother and I that I will always appreciate. The system failed these boys. Without a doubt.

[@annebailor3856]

I believe that's what happened Erik told Lynel that he was still getting molested and that's why they snapped and planned the murderer I don't think their life was in danger in that moment but I think they snapped which is understandable you keep pushing someone to a point where you just have no other choice.

[@mommybear2]

I'm very sorry that happened to your mother. She certainly never deserved that.

[@reneaMichealMartin684]

I Hope they never get out.

[@saqet7546]

@@reneaMichealMartin684Why ? Cause they killed a r@pist ?

[@DivineJustice-m7j]

My mother was the same way with me because males got to her at 4yrs old while her mother would go out run errands. Growing up my mother was very protective of me and I can't thank God enough of how happy I am to have that protection but I wish my mother didn't have to go through that experience. I understand some people have to in order to know how the world of men are regardless if they are your father or not.

[@godlygirls62]

My "father" physically, psychologically, mentally and verbally abused me, my 4 siblings and our mother. From ages 4-12, he sexually abused me. He stopped sexually abusing me when I grew big enough to fight him off. It's during this time I suspect he began sexually abusing one of my sisters, who has become a transgender male. People have no idea how traumatizing it is to divulge this abuse, only to be told what was said to me by my mom when at age 12, I finally told her about the abuse. Her response was "get out of here you liar ". This was as devastating as the sexual abuse. This kind of abuse wounds the spirit, soul and mind. It does horrible, horrible damage. I believe these brothers. They had every right to unalive any monster who abused them in this way. If the mother knew, as mine and millions of other mothers do, but turn a blind eye in denial, the mother is just as guilty.

[@louisejeffries7155]

I admire you for sharing and truely wish you all the very best

[@BUlrich-dw7xi]

GOD BLESS You!!!❤🙏❤️🌺❤️❤️❤️❤️🌻❤️🙏❤️-SENDING YOU PRAYERS,LOVE,HEALING,STRENGTH,ETC.-GOD BLESS❤🙏❤️

[@jesselox3470]

I hope you and your brother are okay ❤

[@betsylaughlin8652]

I am so deeply sorry that your and your siblings had your innocence stolen by someone who was supposed to love, protect, and respect you. I hope you have found some happiness and peace in this difficult and often cruel or indifferent world. Hugs to you. 🫂

[@diane5836]

Gardner is correct about vigilante behavior HOWEVER, THE rage and hatred, shame and terror are real.

[@eceleste]

Psychologist here: The black respected lady in pink suit has no clue about how trauma works and the outcomes of it. They keep treating these boys as if they were not traumatized; speaking of how and what should they have done almost dismissing their traumas which led to the killings. Also, individuals are different some might stay frozen and in denial for years and years, to the point that traumatic events can be only recalled with hypnosis, some develop psychological conditions that are severe like Borderline personality disorder to name one, some flee, and some like the brothers fight, and even the fighting is different for everyone. One can't apply value judgement or moral judgement on traumatic responses. And one can not treat a traumtized person with the standards of what "I would do in such a case" while one is sitting comfortably in the couch having no clue about the absolute horror, mind-bending, soul wrenching terror that such trauma induces. This case was not your classical self defense case, and it shouldnt be tried as such. The trauma and sexual abuse happened in closed doors, in the most intimate space one has: their room and in the shower. It is obvious that they could never apply "self defense" once alone only with him even if they were physically stronger than him, trauma doesnt allow that. So, they found out an opportunity when they were together and not compromised in a 1:1 situation with him. This is their self defense case, shooting him when he is not overpowering them, when they are not isolated alone with this big man with their face smashed on the pillow while he rapes them. This is their self defense.

[@rafaelm.depaula7652]

the lady worked as district attorney at the case. she is protecting herself as well taking this position because she knows damn well the prosecutor's argument only works if you assume jose and kitty aren't abusers

[@RamirezAnaid]

Thank you! I’m glad someone said it. That lady has no clue!

[@MaisyK]

Neither do most psychologists, they want you to keep coming back 💰💰💰

[@roseaneribeiro6396]

This lady just want to be right, she wants to win at any cost.

[@janiceocasio4401]

i respect everyone opinion but i think this guys are psychopath since they were young young and they never treated them.

[@SherylWanland]

Thank you Roy and Andy for telling the truth… there is no worse crime than a crime against a child!!! I’m a mom of 7 children… it’s our job as a mother to protect our children from everything… I’m so sorry to everyone that has been through sexual abuse and then more abuse for coming forward.. it makes my heart hurt. I pray God heals all the abused children of the world.

[@mommybear2]

Yes, it is so sad when an abused person steps forward and reveals their abuse only to be abused even further. Mothers are supposed to protect their children no matter what and I think most mothers are like that. Kitty failed her sons again and again.

[@onlymebaby.9249]

Amen

[@Brianesha]

The fact that some family members said the dad was abusive spoke volumes. There’s no limit to what a person like that can do. If he’s physically abusive to kids what else could he be doing?

[@jendee1260]

sexual abuse. physical is a different story.

[@ellaminnow]

@@jendee1260sexual abuse is physical as well.

[@Brianesha]

@@jendee1260 can you not comprehend? Abuse is abuse. If you’re known to physically abuse people who’s to say you don’t sexually abuse people?

[@franciscachesca]

That's because they both never discussed this during therapy. And because they tried to pay people for fase witness stands.

[@Brianesha]

@@franciscachesca their cousin stated in the first trial they seen abuse. The prosecutor took him off the second trial because of something that had nothing to do with the case. I doubt the cousin was paid to lie.

[@retpal2302]

Knowing what we know now about Hollywood and the music industry, this is much more believable.

[@carlywright5127]

Exactly my thought too.

[@GummerHummerQueen]

No particular industry was needed to be outted to know what goes on, it happens across the board

[@andreah1104]

I believe the brothers were abused. Menudo were also abused. One overdosed. Ricky Martin had incestuous relationship with his nephew.... All messed up 😢

[@PenitentPenguin]

Absolutely! Lots of satanists. Sex magik & all that garbage

[@mdoyleproductions9358]

Especially one involved in a boy band...the execs and managers of boy bands have a LOT of skeletons in their closets.

[@carolynrodriguez467]

This makes me think of my mother, who has suffered schizophrenia all her life. It finally came to light that she had been horrifically abused by her father while her mother knew what was happening. My mom just checked out. And for me, now a grown adult, it all makes sense. God Bless her. And God Bless all who had to endure this.

[@stx9669]

Same with my mother. 💔

[@saurabhpericherla5454]

Same with my childhood friend’s mother. Schizophrenia is a cruel illness. 😢

[@TianaArtist]

i had an ex with schizophrenia and i suspect he was abused by his father. are there any theories that rape is a catalyst for schizophrenia?

[@Fat12219]

😢 my wife was abused by her father ! 😮

[@rpsrenemcintosh9950]

This is so terribly sad, I sincerely do hope you're doing well. Love to you from South Africa ❤🌻

[@Roshk93]

The lady in the pink suit is literally boiling my blood!!! Jesus.

[@craveinfused1628]

Literallyyyy

[@soxpeewee]

Why?

[@CherokeeBird]

​@@soxpeewee Because she is clearly clueless 🙄

[@steffisangma4082]

Mine too I want to tell her for once put yours in their shoes once how she will react

[@123451248ify]

Calm down. Lacey is a former District Attorney and her job would have been to represent the state of California. If she had been the prosecutor in the trial, Her job would have been to disprove the abuse allegations made by the brothers and to prove that Jose and Kitty were killed for the inheritance.

[@sofiamorosin]

So sad to read how many people got abused by their parents. So sorry for all of you. I hope you find the strength to talk about it and close this trauma chapter of yours. I pray for you.

[@stellabella5269]

Thank you 😢

[@aridyaacob9528]

But the dead can't speak for themselves. Did the sexual abuse really happen?

[@elizabethsottil7974]

​@@aridyaacob9528 not to see it is to be with the head buried in the sand.

[@MaisyK]

​@aridyaacob9528 100% it's easy to convict those who cannot speak for themselves.

[@noemifelton1780]

Many one Menudo said Jose Menéndez was part of the mafia of trafficking children. How sad is this case it’s time to let them free! They suffered enough

[@LunarMoonGod]

I am totally disgusted by this lady in pink suit. Also, their very own uncle wanted them jailed forever saying the boys are just after their parent's wealth. Are they Sir, or your intention is so you can benefit from your late sister's money while the boys are behind bars? Just my thought.

[@sandratcunha]

My thoughts exactly. Or he's trying to diffuse something shady about himself.

[@charlie-girl72]

Same opinion, cause such are rich idiots themselves, thinking of money all the time

[@searranolan8039]

Right his cousin said he was telling the truth and the signs were there

[@gophukyurselvs3621]

Yeah, because she’s speaking the truth and people don’t like hearing opinions they disagree with. go look in the mirror.

[@deehello1177]

I had a different opinion of him. I felt he too may well be from a long line of perps. After all, his sister didn't mind. What type person refuses to see even after knowing all the facts, and he well knew the facts from the start even if the public didn't. Yet he remains defiant like a Catholic Priest does. Perps never feel they've done anything wrong. It wasn't the money, because there was none left to get, and there is none left for the brothers when they get out. It's gone, and it's been gone even before the convictions. 🤔

[@neondreams4016]

Being abused by your parents does make you full of rage. It’s indescribable

[@ValleyoftheRogue]

Baloney. These guys were legal adults when they murdered their parents in cold blood. It was all about the money, the inheritance.

[@julief634]

Yep! I call it righteous rage. It's understandable

[@neondreams4016]

@@julief634 the best thing to do if you can is get away from them because they provoke you to anger and then use it to prove your the bad one.

[@neondreams4016]

@@ValleyoftheRogue yea I think that too. They were full of rage & wanted money 💰 and the abuse made it easier to justify it in their heads but none the less abuse makes you full of rage

[@PenitentPenguin]

I was emotionally & physically abused by my mother. A 4 y.o. musical prodigy & bright kid, I quit caring, & trying at age 11, & smoked and stole & cut school. But I never understood WHY. Now, at age 63, I think it was passive-aggressive behavior b/c of my mother's abuse, especially when I was very little. She took me to a psychologist who I lied to b/c I was afraid of what she might do to me. He never did figure it out.

[@sharikasharma3378]

I have two teenaged sons. I cry every time I see the brother’s testimonials. Am a US citizen living in India. I was born there, studied there, and am now an author living in Mumbai. I don’t want to lose faith in America. I will give up my US citizenship if the Menendez brothers are not released from jail. PLEASE, for God’s sake, release them. 🙏

[@iammarcnixon]

“Did you ask him not to” is a WILD question 😮😮

[@JozeBroz]

sick person asked it

[@divine_cosmos]

I know!!! It’s an awful question to ask. Talk about victim blaming. Jeez

[@gigiebangtango7]

Yeah some people these days😔😞💔

[@eveykrushensky2928]

That actually blew my mind

[@justmebeingmyself4679]

That was his lawyer. She just has to ask these questions to paint a picture of the situation for the jury. It's sick, but there's always the chance of the prosecution saying that "He never said no", so she needs to clarify that he did. She asked other such questions before this. ("Did it hurt?" "Did you bleed?")

[@PotHead98]

I was sexually abused most of my childhood by an older male cousin. And I'm a male. I told my multiple family members and no one believed me and they literally acted like they didn't hear me or act like I never told them or that I'm making it up. They still continued to invite that cousin to family functions and that I was at and never ever had my back or said anything about it. I literally feel some days that maybe it didn't happen and maybe I'm making it up in my head. But I know for a fact it happened at have very very vivid memories of it. But still to this day no one believes me or has done anything. And it's one of the main reasons I've had a horrible opioid addiction my whole life and have attempted suicide multiple times. I feel for these brothers and for everyone who was SA by a close family member or by anyone period. 20 years later Im still haunted by it.

[@noonoofulable]

I read your comment. I believe you. What you described about doubting your memory is known as gaslighting. I hope you are doing better and can overcome your addiction. You deserve to live a happier, peaceful life. Suicide is not the answer. You didn't abuse anyone and shouldn't punish yourself. You are innocent. For your own mental well-being it would be best to avoid , if possible, family gatherings where that cousin is likely to be. Also I think it might be beneficial for you if you got some sort of counselling. Best wishes for your future. ❤

[@rileyfuckingrifle]

I don't know if matters at all. I believe you. You didn't deserve that and all those adults failed you.

[@FURYWORLDx]

Thank you for sharing your story.

[@virginia3926]

That's horrible no one believed you. I'm sorry that happened to you

[@danceteachermom]

I'm a woman and I'm 62. This happened to me by someone in my family. I never told anyone until I was 27...I actually "forgot" about it for 15 years. (It's fascinating what the mind can do to protect oneself). But I grew up believing in God and I know that is why I am at peace and have forgiven what happened to me. Jesus forgives me for my sins and I forgive those who have sinned against me. I am FREE! There is a peace beyond understanding and I pray that you would reach out to God and ask Him to help you to heal. It IS possible. Sending love to you my friend. Cynthia ❤️

[@cathenry5678]

Those of u who shared their abuse, im so sorry u went through that but i am so glad u spoke up. I hope you all find, peace and happiness for the rest of ur days 💜

[@SuperSoli10]

Not only should the boys be free but the judge should personally pay them 10 million

[@bufordteejustice1119]

Why?

[@Jl-ou4jt]

Absolutely

[@desotohybrid2175]

You ppl are delusional...they killed their parents for their money and they should be set free?

[@reneaMichealMartin684]

Let them stay in prison.

[@wion.80]

​@@desotohybrid2175 Did you even watch the whole thing? They did not do it for money

[@anellawrites]

This is why this is so believable to me. I was sexually abused by my father ages 4-9. My mother blamed me for it so badly I decided to pretend I didn’t remember the abuse. I kept the secret for 35 years. Until one day an astute friend asked me why I talked about how much I hated my mother but I never mentioned my father. I was shaking so badly while I told her the truth. I wrote a blog post about how hard it was to keep secrets and maybe if I hadn’t been keeping this big family secret it would be easier. One of my aunts saw the post and sent my other aunt to talk to me. Turns out my father did the same thing to her and MY MOTHER KNEW ABOUT IT. She said my mother was angry with her. Which means my mother knew my father was a pedophile BEFORE she married him, married him anyway, and had daughters with him. Mothers do this. They need to keep that man so much they will sacrifice their own children to do it.

[@susanlett9632]

My God! I'm so sorry. So 😔 sorry that happened to you ❤️

[@tarahill308]

It’s so sad wht you had to go through. I never understood why people have more anger for a weak mom more than the person who harmed them. Mom definitely had mental issues she didn’t want to face but the dad was just evil.

[@melissarose888]

@@tarahill308because the mother is supposed to protect their children. She could have left and taken her daughter out of the abusive home.

[@tarahill308]

@@melissarose888 Dad suppose to protect as well hun.

[@thunderousapplause]

parental betrayal is a soul killer. I am so sorry and I hope so much you have a therapist who understands how to treat these issues and I hope so much you have a community of people who are soft and kind. I'm so very sorry.

[@barbarabreunis7788]

A lot of family members knew about the abuse by Jose Menendez and the neglect by Kitty Menendez and did nothing out of fear.

[@MGS78]

kitty abused them too.

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

Fear of what? Smfh it could have been reported anonymously.

[@ca8944]

@@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653 This was the 80’s They wouldn’t have believed them

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

@@ca8944 bs come on

[@NevaX333]

Yeah I remember being little and seeing stuff on magazines in the stores about the boys lying. Nobody really believed they were abused by that POS. I think they should be released

[@SssS9372]

I'm sorry but the Uncle is just being sentimental and blind to what his sister was part of. Even interviewing him was pointless.

[@nbaoldgirl]

Agreed

[@gussygatlin3093]

Agreed 💯

[@leschatsdubalcon3601]

I agree absolutely - the uncle's mind is closed against his nephews. Also, listening to his cold certitude I couldn't help wondering: with the brothers convicted, who gets the inheritance? Who gets the money?

[@debhorne150]

That's Exactly what I was thinking watching him talk about it.

[@stasa-X]

Why they killed their mother too? Why they tried to hide their murders and why they stayed in house and didn't left , they were big enough to work !!! They wanted their money, just they are greedy!!

[@kimbrian5664]

I can only imagine the "relief" the boys felt when their rapist was dead.

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

Sadly it looks like they also felt very guilty and regretted some of it. Children experiencing this kind of abuse, especially when children are wired to be devoted to their parents….its so complex

[@Rebwell]

I hope the therapist who told his girlfriend lost his license

[@murthunt1047]

Therapists are actually legally obliged to report child abuse or if someone is a clear and present danger to others

[@Jacksonmahomeisgay]

​@@murthunt1047lmao that's not what went down but u twirl ya fingers snowflake

[@Rebwell]

@@murthunt1047 at the time of the crime, no one was a child and there was no imminent threat. The crime was the past. Pillow talking with your girlfriend and recording seasons is NOT reporting abuse either. This was absolutely against all ethics.

[@-HeyLyd-]

The therapist didn't tell his girlfriend. She was waiting outside the room where a therapy session was taking place, and she overheard Eric confessing to the therapist. Then that girlfriend contacted police. (The whole therapist/girlfriend sideshow at the trial was totally wild.)

[@maneckineckbeard1749]

Yes, IIRC he did.

[@MyLeftMitten]

As a former large city police officer, we take EVERY sexual assault allegation seriously, no matter how many years ago it was. I can say it took great pleasure in putting several family assailant in prison. One young man stabbed his father after years of abuse. At 18, his father stopped and turned his attention to his younger brothers. He did what he did to protect them from the same abuse.

[@DonnaMayStanish]

Myleftmitten - My brother savagely had physically assaulted his wife for decades until he finally murdered her. Their adult son, my nephew, walked into my brother's house and beat him until he ended up in the hospital. Many of my family thought this was horrible. I don't see it in the same manner. My nephew snapped and had enough. His beloved mother died a horrendous death after decades of misery. While I don't condone such violent behavior, I empathize with my nephew's lifetime of pain due to his father's alcoholism and wicked violence. Thank you for your candor and for your service as a police officer. It must have been a hell of a career with all you had seen and experienced. Take care. ❤

[@black_sheep_nation]

Break the cycle. Only childhood trauma recovery therapy can do that.

[@mommybear2]

Thank you for speaking up and thank you for your service.

[@hellskitchenkritterandfrie3372]

I don’t think people understand what that type of abuse can do to a person, for their entire lifetime.

[@Beth-mi2hf]

Yeah no not all police officers take sexual assault seriously.ur a fool if u think so

[@juliamahlke4471]

Child abuse is so dangerous because it is so invisible. Not being able to see it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Even doctors can hardly tell, when children are abused, because the predators are usually very careful. And emotional abuse and scaring and manipulating victims also needs to be taken into account. I hope they get justice for what was done to them. I believe them. They have served a huge punishment.

[@marygoff3332]

Agreed. 100%

[@meepk633]

They weren't abused.

[@khismet]

Child Abuse is not invisible. They always glaring red flags if you don't avert your eyes!

[@StonedBarbiee]

Well that’s a lie. Doctors can definitely tell if a child’s being abused. Especially sexually abused. Don’t type such false information like that.

[@nerwinter158]

@@StonedBarbieethat’s very false. Depending on the type of s*x abuse and how severe it is it often doesn’t leave a mark. Touching, forcing the child to do something and so on. It’s not clear cut.

[@66eng]

Justice for the brothers !

[@tarikbleak]

"He's not the type of person to grape someone." Oh a Hollywood producer isn't that kind of person? Right...

[@realitysven]

I got cherryed by my gramps

[@Cocodrillo18]

Grape is a fruit...

[@jj5861]

why are you saying grape u goofball. this isn’t tiktok, youtube won’t censor you

[@jj5861]

@@Cocodrillo18lol idk why they said grape, that’s usually said on tiktok where you can be banned for saying rape and other explicit terms

[@clicheguevara5282]

@@jj5861 I'm getting SO TIRED of people unnecessarily censoring themselves and speaking in code words. It's one of many reasons that I hate Tik Tok with every fiber of my being. It's ruining the internet.

[@opiumeyes2858]

The old Man saying he never saw anything in their Home. What a BS. So, if you haven´t seen it, it didn´t happen? SMH

[@LLynneM]

Plus, from what was said in the other documentary about the screaming, crying + fighting back that Eric did as he got older, it’s impossible to believe anyone in the house wouldn’t hear it.

[@jennifertarin4707]

​@@LLynneMpeople only hear and see what they want to hear and see

[@sdeee3842]

Ikr sad and pathetic 😮

[@elainevankat5353]

Exactly!!!

[@elainevankat5353]

@@jennifertarin4707So true!

[@HB.13]

"Did you ask not to" The justice system expects a 6 year old CHILD to understand what was happening to them that too by their own Father. A Father whose responsibility was protect his boys not freaking RAPE them. I pray the ruling takes place soon and they both are set free to live their remaining lives with their respective wives in peace.

[@charlielynn3674]

YES!

[@janetmoquin7828]

It's time for them to come home. How often are victims prosecuted? Even once is too much. Now let these men go!

[@21m455]

I was 3 and I said no I didn't want to

[@PallasAndDove]

Victim blaming ran strong back then.

[@BS-dq1kz]

@@21m455Well that’s great. Some children have more fear of their abuser than you obviously did. Some are way too scared to speak up. Besides, many sickos who would go to such lengths to fulfill their twisted desires don’t care about a simple “No.” from a little child. That won’t deter them.

[@anjrys]

I was sexually abused by my own father when I was 11 and told me not to tell anyone about what he is doing to me. I felt the trauma of those Two Brothers. And you will carry that trauma in your entire life.

[@daysjours]

So very sorry

[@hippygypsy777]

When you do something about to the full extent of the law, they only get 7 or maybe 8 years, unless they reoffend. Then they go back to prison for hurting someone else. That's my experience of trying to do things the right way.

[@Samantha-ys2pp]

Imagine the chances of revealing any abuse with an uncle like that.

[@Cove999]

💯💯

[@KatSut1978]

Exactly what I thought. He cares nothing about the possibility that his sister was complicit in her own children being horrifically abused. She did nothing to protect them. His sister is an Angel in his eyes and that’s being complicit too. The elders in this case are just disgusting human beings.

[@toddsmith1969]

​@@KatSut1978 bet those cars took their minds of the "rape" 😂

[@DrineThePoet]

💯

[@RobertHenderson.poopiebear]

​@@toddsmith1969I doubt it... They were in an emotional state we cannot understand, and its funny how people don't make jokes like that about the sexual abuse of females. No one would have talked about the money, or them not admitting it right away. It's sad how we are so forgiving of female victims and their behavior but we still blame male victims and make jokes about what they went through...sad.

[@greatlakespulse]

That woman lawyer is insane! She is horrifically unschooled on the psychological trauma of sexuall abuse. The frontal lobe does not fully develop until the age of 25, and these boys were developing under horrific trauma. Such a sad and tragiccircumstance.

[@NB_Strikers]

Why is she insane? What is it that she said that was incorrect? Pray tell.

[@lauranaliu321]

@@NB_Strikers I think he's talking about the female D.A.

[@NB_Strikers]

@@lauranaliu321 so am I

[@carlyriley4144]

Why are we acting like these things don’t happen? Their family, and cousins knew about it. Stop acting like it’s a big ole surprise

[@carlyriley4144]

They were done with thee abuse, they didn’t care if they went away forever as long as it stopped.. but this day and age they shouldn’t be locked away for life for killing their abusers!!!!

[@martymartin6924]

Set them free

[@Linda-jj1sj]

Can your cousins come forward and speak up?? Or have they already??

[@danijacks__]

​@@Linda-jj1sjone of their cousins who spoke up for erik specifically passed away unfortunately, but one of their older cousins is still living and she has spoke up several times telling the same story never changing

[@cjking4511]

@@carlyriley4144Why are they special? If they are freed then they should free the thousands of black youth offenders in prison on life sentences without parole. Most of them also had abusive households

[@katolivares1055]

Thats insane to keep saying he didn’t deserve to be murdered!!!! He sexually abused 3ppl !!! Children!!!!!!

[@greenblood64]

I’m sure it was more than 3 people. 3 people have come forward and confessed. God knows how many other victims Jose had.

[@calistafalcontail]

Demonic Hollyweird producers usually dont stop at their own household...whoever was the Diddy of this time, he went to his parties.

[@imadickens3337]

Sister Kitty was so ambitious she forgot to be a real mother to her sons

[@mariee.5912]

She didn't forget. She was never a good mother.

[@GentleReminder3]

Good point.

[@mariafrmdaBX]

You’re so right!!

[@Aliwonderful22]

As someone who’ve gone through that as a child by their own father was shameful. Hatred will consume you. Till now I’m so distant with him. No communication. I always wished I was born with a loving father.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Sorry you went through this💚

[@elainevankat5353]

If I was abused by my parents… I would never see or speak to them! Sorry for your situation.❤

[@lwilson123]

hope things are better for you from linda in scotland

[@lisakay8798]

And you absolutely deserved a loving father!!! I'm so sorry yours was not. I wish you the very best in this life.

[@charlielynn3674]

Exactly. Stay strong and wish you well, strength, happiness, depth, and healing. You deserve nothing but goodness.

[@christinamaiya691]

It took me 30 years to tell my fren his uncle was abusing me and she said he would do the same to her , it took me whole 30 years to talk about it

[@MrShanester117]

It’s absolutely bizarre the amount of people who would go to a KZbin comment section and lay out the darkest parts of their life.

[@Wh4L205]

@@MrShanester117 writing is better for some people. Most family members and friends can’t be trusted. We only deal with them out of love.

[@monicarenee7949]

@@MrShanester117 why does it matter? Most people don’t know them in real life so it’s a safe place to get it off their chest. Plus silence doesn’t help anyone. Maybe if you see how common it is people will stop getting excuses for it

[@betsylaughlin8652]

I’m so sorry sweetie🙏I hope you get all the help and loving support you need. YT is a FINE place to talk-only trolls complain nd show no compassion💕💕💕

[@GatheringPlace123]

Me too. 29 years later I haltingly spoke the words to a Psychiatrist and promptly vomited.

[@kaxxxm]

sad how many people shared their traumas here, sending you tight hugs! keep fighting!

[@blackinktv5950]

😢😢😢😢

[@claresavaughns8709]

Is society finally going to admit that Pedophilia is a problem in the entertainment industry?

[@EyeShadowQueenn]

Nope. Too many politicians on pay role. Mater of fact look at your state legal to mf marry. Mine is 15. These ppl are sick

[@teddyjam8134]

Pedophilia is pervasive in society. It is not just in the entertainment industry.

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@teddyjam8134 but especially pervasive in the entertainment industry goofy

[@teddyjam8134]

@@wholethedogsout880 there is no proof of that. Pedophilia is a problem in the catholic church and society in general as I said earlier. People who work in law enforcement can tell you that. Now certain people who work in the entertainment industry can perhaps have the means to quiet their victims and hire a team of people to escape justice, but it's an issue everywhere. Lastly, the name calling is so childish. It's time to grow up.

[@elmira9346]

There’s a similar case in Russia “Sisters Khachaturyan”, where 3 sisters ages 17,18 and 19 brutally killed their father after years of sexual, physical and emotional abuse by their father. I believe these kids have suffered enough, their lives are ruined by their own parents, and they should not be in jail. Free the Menendez brothers, enough is enough

[@carlywright5127]

Were the girls freed. I hope so.

[@keeper6458]

Agreed

[@Vistacraft82]

That was different. This was greed and hungry for money.

[@O___00]

Sure.. but these two killers are lying.

[@Vistacraft82]

@@O___00 Ofcourse they're lying, they should rot in jail

[@christinamccall6450]

As a child abused by a narcissistic mother my whole life, I felt nothing when she died but relief, freedom, and that I could finally live my life without this hanging over my head. I was far more devastated by the loss of my cat in the same year. Thank God for my loving, normal dad. Not odd at all except to the lucky people who have never endured this sort of thing.

[@charlielynn3674]

I hear ya loud and clear. Sorry for your childhood pain. I'm happy you are able to put yourself first and priorities straight. Well done.

[@piscesempress1978]

im so sorry you hadto endure that pain. I look forward to the day my father passes.

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Feel bad for real victims but these guys are liars. They were adults who wanted to set up what looked like a mafia killing to get the huge estate. They never told therapists. A bunch of ppl want to get the parents’ multimillion dollar estate & they’ve been scheming for decades to get it. One brother went to a therapist & never mentioned the accusations. One isn’t testifying because he’s already run his mouth about the truth. They’re an insult to real victims.

[@zoegirl2948]

​@@piscesempress1978 My prayer is that God will embrace you and that your pain will end soon. No child should endure emotional and physical pain inflicted by a father.

[@BS-dq1kz]

I’m sorry. I also do understand.

[@seruni14]

I'm a psychologist. A lot of my clients finally told me that they were molested after 4 or more session. That's very long session to go. I can really understand the delay the brothers have :(

[@ashleykidwell3368]

Thank you for being who you are! I struggle to find someone in my area to listen to things they want to medicate you and get you out. Also very low on therapist so it's extremely hard to get in to talk. Wait times usually 3 months before you see someone. This is with even in a SI breakdown. I appreciate you I appreciate anyone like you. You are very important!❤

[@mbc1795]

Everybody here is this and that 😂.. giving their expertise 😂

[@PoseyLane]

My father harmed both my sister and brother, though you’d never know-he didn’t seem like "the type." My sister coped by always being the "funny one," likely unable to face the truth even now. My brother, at 54, finally told me what happened, but I already knew. He chose not to confront our father, fearing it might cause more harm. He seems emotionally stuck, still seeking love, though I don’t know his exact condition.Unlike my sister, I can’t disconnect/disassociate from what happened. I remember everything, which has led to severe depression, PTSD, and hospitalization. When my brother told our devout Christian mother and stepfather, they simply told him to "get over it." I received the same response when I defended him. They don’t seem like "the type" to treat their children this way-they’ve fooled all their church friends. On the surface, these adults appeared decent, but in reality, they were all monsters. When I hear about the Menendez brothers, I do believe it did happen. Acting like everything was normal after the tragedy doesn’t surprise me. It’s similar to my sister going to school the next day, pretending everything was fine. My brother did the same. I was the one who cut ties and dealt with the depression. It is very complicated and the people that harm children are the people you will least expect. They never seem like "the type."

[@brendamotes9973]

If your mother and stepfather were so devoted Christians, they should have been horrified. I'm a borne again Christian mother, I would have horrified that I had not protected my babies! I would have cried with my son and asked forgiveness for not being a better mother.

[@mrsmacca126]

@@brendamotes9973” Christians” in name only, then. True Christians could NOT abuse their children

[@TheSapphireSprit]

Yea. My “father” was the choir director…..what a “godly” man.

[@LenoreGuarino]

The strange thing is that they didn’t mention abuse at first. You would think they would start there

[@TheSapphireSprit]

@@LenoreGuarino it is strange but, as a survivor, I know that people can have different reactions and a general aversion to talking about it. I didn’t tell anyone about the sexual abuse until I voluntarily entered foster care. I wouldn’t have known it was a possibility until my adoptive parents were investigated for abusing foster children. I was terrified that they wouldn’t believe me.

[@catsofastypalea]

I was a HUGE fan of Menudo in my childhood and it was very brave of Roy Rosello to speak up. I hope it helps the Menendez brothers and they all get strength to live their lives in peace. ❤

[@laumarlopez8417]

I was shocked when I saw his interview. I got chills and I cried just by hearing him. I hate the fact that Caritina Saralegi realize her mistakes and apologize to him. I hope the Menéndez are set free.

[@vicks827]

I’ve read Edgardo Diaz is being investigated of alledge sexual abuse. I know these things take a while but I hope not too long. I want to see Diaz pay for his crimes while he’s still alive.

[@chewysilviaalayah2141]

Yo tanvien ojala salgan estos hermanos😢

[@carlosurbinaverboonen7791]

Most of the group Menudo were and are jo jo josss,,,

[@MrsGMD]

I was a huge fan also and I was very proud of them him also ❤

[@FedaaEssa-u7n]

" Did you ask him not to?" is the same question as " what were you wearing?" This is so sick and disrespectful.

[@missinterpretation4984]

That was unbelievable. Hard to stomach. Wow.

[@imadickens3337]

That’s why people don’t tell anyone

[@charlie-girl72]

Agreed such are sick in the heart and mind themselves, probably such monster also

[@MB-hy2qn]

Does these people understand what it does to a childs mind being raped and molested by your parents from a very young age who is supposed to protect and love you. If it is true how can you ever put these boys in jail for killing these people while these parents were destroying these boys fiscally and mentally. This is horrific. If this is what's happened to these boys those parents got what they deserved. These parents betrayed these boys in the worst way possible. The parents were monsters not these boys.

[@gullalaikhanshairani9786]

How spineless do you have to be to ask a rape victim, did you ask your rapist not to do so? Wtf.

[@mariapilarme]

Exactly like it’s the victim choice to be victimized again and again.

[@caitlinmyriah7657]

The only reason I can think of why they'd ask that, maybe cause they'd try to say "he didn't refuse" or something fkn dumb like that. Other than that, idk. It's definitely an ignorant question, but I'm sure there was a reason for it.

[@betsybabf748]

It is a strange question from a media interviewer, but a necessary question for the record by an attorney during trial.

[@el34glo59]

​@@caitlinmyriah7657Exactly. They did it for a reason. To hear the response. Even if it's a scumbag thing to do, there's a reason they asked. And it's not because the lawyer thought they could just stop it.

[@AbbyCavapoo24]

It's stupid.

[@janisjones3290]

In full support of the Menendez brothers. Thankfully their Lawyer is taking up the case and new evidence has come to light, although with the evidence that the State had available to them in both the previous trials was enough to NOT convict the Menendez brothers. There was ample evidence and testimony by family members. Awareness of Child Abuse by family members was grossly lacking. Hoping the Brothers get a fair trial this time. Everyone who has been through a similar situation and has taken the time to write their story HAS made a huge contribution already towards bringing awareness of this grievance towards children. Thank you for sharing your story. 🙏

[@lisaduncan3363]

"defense"

[@longseafirerybell2030]

It's funny how some people assume because they never saw the abuse, it somehow never happened. Abusers won't abuse in front of witnesses! Always keep that in mind. These two boys deserve a fair trial if they were victims of severe sexual abuse!

[@tamarinbush6613]

My ex use to hit the back of my head upper arms and torso so that I didn’t have marks visible. And yes pro use to say what a great guy he was 🙄

[@cjking4511]

Their explanations of abuse do not explain why they shot the mother 15 times. They already had a fair trial. The parents were UNARMED when the sons killed them. The alleged past abuse is not a legal self-defense argument. The abuse is a one sided story. If the abuse accusations are true one could argue it was consensual and they liked it since they kept living there after they turned adults.

[@Lemana28021989]

It's the same line of 'argument', when people say "But they were always nice to me, I can't believe it." Well guess what, Claudia, it still did!

[@TandC9876]

That part!

[@littlelou1811]

Didnt they lie to the police and say they were at the theatre when their parents were murdered? Thwn once they they were found out they told the story of abuse? If it was really about the abuse they wouldnt have lied to begin with

[@robbinhartley8398]

I am so obsessed with this case! I hope and pray that they are released 🙏🏽

[@BlissDecision]

but they are 2 lazy, liars, murderers

[@Ashleigh.Asher_]

They need to stay exactly where they are. They were about to be cut out of the will. The rest is all lies.

[@BlissDecision]

@Ashleigh.Asher_ when the murders occurred, their aged were 19 and 21. So it is, at least, rare.

[@kayharvey5566]

There’s a movie on Netflix for it

[@BlissDecision]

@kayharvey5566 but the movies expose the real motives of the brothers

[@ale7564]

I don’t know the truths in this case, but I do know that abuse changes a person’s mental state and thinking. The former prosecutor kept saying what a rational person would do, but can people who have lived with years and years and years of abuse be rational?

[@louisejeffries7155]

Totally agree

[@commonsense571]

Thank you. Succinctly and we’ll said❤

[@2KMMC2]

The house keeper testified that the dad who put on really inappropriate things on tv for shock value.

[@tainoaquarian]

Yes, all part of conditioning, grooming.

[@mikieanthony777]

Flora, the maid, said nothing like that. What you smoking?

[@charlielynn3674]

Ugh.

[@Laylnizzl]

@@mikieanthony777they could be talking about their family friend. Alicia Hertz. She said at a dinner their father put a very inappropriate video involving children🤮also Kitty’s sister, Joan, found an inappropriate vhs tape as well

[@mikieanthony777]

@@Laylnizzl Alicia said they showed movies which she thought were too mature for the brothers. She didn't say " very inappropriate "

[@Ladybug-lz5un]

The molestation was premeditated by the father too

[@davidlynch9049]

Proof?

[@duvessa2003]

Excellent point!!!

[@ppriya424]

Prosecutors didn’t believe them being abused is the worst thing I have seen

[@Izzology]

Denying evidence to be used in the second trial because it was "repetitive" got me

[@wolfesound]

Not witnessing the abuse is not a defense. Abuse, mostly, never has witnesses. Pfff.

[@elainevankat5353]

Thank you! Absolutely true….

[@JDmix123]

See how that doesn’t play well in court

[@JDmix123]

Quite convient

[@oceanstaiga5928]

It’s not a proof that the abuse didn’t happen but it’s certainly a Defense in a court, otherwise anyone could accuse anybody of abuse and get them in jail.

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

@@oceanstaiga5928and I wonder if that is the reason why the Court and other authorities are so reluctant to accept the charge of abuse.

[@delsmontgomery]

interviewing kitty's brother was USELESS. He said he wanted to protect her?? well he should have protected her from JOSE MENENDEZ

[@evinc.5822]

It’s pure guilt. He probably knows something was going on but has too much pride to admit it and recognize that he did nothing to help his sister or his nephews.

[@whitecornelia12]

Exactly!! They are really siblings.. both of them have no empathy or somewhat blind to abuses his nephew experienced from the hands of his brother in law as well as his sister Kitty.

[@ruthhase-gutierrez9830]

So they couldn't get a conviction and decided the solution was to just throw out most of the defense's witnesses? What?!

[@brianborstein8456]

Lyle admitted to asking someone to fabricate stories.

[@ruthhase-gutierrez9830]

@@brianborstein8456 I heard that. That still doesn't tell me why to throw out SO much from the defense.

[@brianborstein8456]

@@ruthhase-gutierrez9830 you heard it because Lyle said so himself. If you're willing to have someone fabricate stories, then what else are you fabricating and/or lying about?

[@misskay8131]

@brianborstein8456 at what time stamp did one of the sons admit to asking people to lie for him, so we can see this, cause ya’ll are just saying anything at this point.

[@YourEverydaySheep]

@@misskay8131 Lyle did ask specific people to lie for him. Those being two of his ex girlfriends and one of Erik's friends. However much of that comes from long before the first trial started and one of them who testified for the prosecution did say that Lyle had called him during the first trial and told him to drop everything. In one of these letters he sent to Erik's friend he insinuates that his lawyers have no idea and that Erik would rat him out and that's exactly what happened. This witness never testified during the first trial because Erik had told his lawyers that the persons story wasn't true. Lyle certainly made some bad decisions while in jail (since he never wanted to talk about the abuse) but that doesn't mean their defense was fabricated. None of those people were ever asked to lie about abuse and if this was such a common thing you'd fully expect to see a whole lot people coming out and saying "Lyle asked me to lie for him" but no one else ever has. You don't have to take him at his word but Lyle has said he only did this prior to agreeing to talk about the abuse himself. According to him, his lawyers and his family he was refusing to testify about the abuse for a very long time.

[@mandybutler4043]

The woman in the pink jacket is so off base. And very much shows how close minded and victim blamey of her generation. And why mandatory retirement ages are increasingly popular topic of debates

[@NB_Strikers]

What did that lady say that was so incorrect? Not what did she say that you didn’t like but what did she say that was incorrect?

[@reneaMichealMartin684]

I hope they stay in prison.

[@mandybutler4043]

@@reneaMichealMartin684 good for you.

[@robertlee8042]

My neighbor was the tennis instructor for the boys. He said the father was really tough on them. So tough that my neighbor quit and never again trained at clients’ homes.

[@Linda-jj1sj]

Wow that’s very telling. Abuse can be so damaging to a growing child.

[@luvbeinghiswife1148]

Omigoodness, that says alot. Those poor boys didn't stand a chance.💔

[@JenGerard]

At the first trial a string of tennis and swimming coaches said the same thing

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

Can your neighbor come forward and help them?

[@Hroswitha_R___]

I don't know the situation in USA, but in my country we can go and leave abusers. Start a new life. That's what poor people are doing. But i can imagine it's hard for rich kids to leave all the money. It can make more upset.

[@KimSmith-v5k]

The uncle most likely inherited his sisters estate and doesn't want to have to return the money to the brothers... They never should have been sent to prison, their entire lives were filled with horrific abuse.

[@ruthcassidy6052]

There was no money left - the killer sons spent it all, either on their spending sprees or for their defenses.

[@crimeandcrafting]

This is the grossest thing I’ve read today

[@nicolasimpkins3640]

They should never be released

[@marinahuizar6067]

they did not inherit nearly as much money as they thought they would, only $5.7 millioon between the two of them, there were mortgages on both their houses

[@thecrimsondragon9744]

Agreed. This uncle in particular is suspicious since he never had a close relationship with the family but as fate would have it came calling when he realised there was money to be had if he played his cards right. The coldness and greed in his eyes are self evident.

[@ShandaAbsar]

I still cannot believe it's been over 30 years they have been in prison

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

I THREW AWAY THE KEY, CRY ON MY SHOULDER

[@nicolasimpkins3640]

Where they belong

[@nicolasimpkins3640]

Where they belong

[@melgrant7404]

​@@nicolasimpkins3640 nope.

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

@@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNKthat key may be revoked.

[@i.r.6397]

FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS! 😢

[@erikaxchristine]

Abusers families will always stick up for their own.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

And that just irks me. Everybody shows a different face to different people. The brother never once said anything logical like "I can only speak to what I know of my sister. I cannot speak on how she was in her home because I wasn't always there." I don't care if you are family. I will not embellish and/or lie about you, especially if I know your true character is ugly.

[@elainevankat5353]

@@TheRetroWoman80So true! The brother makes me sick!😖

[@Monalisa0622]

Most of the time yes

[@kushmob4208]

whats up erika? your cat looks like the one my niece has at my mothers, i suppose you're a cat woman? my mother would have had damn near a whole litter of cats but 2 had passed away and another 1 or 2 ran off

[@erikaxchristine]

@@kushmob4208 Aw that is something! My girls name is Pepper. Was she a Tortie or Tortoiseshell? yes I am an animal lover but right now all I have is her. ❤️ She’s my bestie.

[@jasminea1233]

You cannot convince me the parents were good people. Men in that industry at that time were known to be evil and the women with them let them get away with everything and anything. He did hurt those boys, and they deserve to be free.

[@MsBleau]

It goes on in that industry now more than ever, sorry Google won't let me alter my comment above . that'll probably disappear too.

[@MaeoowTravel]

Maybe Kitty’s brother is an abuser too that’s why he never believed the claims

[@tolatola5891]

Possibly, I read an article a few years ago about one of Bill Cosby's daughters who claimed to have been sexually assaulted by Mike Tyson. This allegedly took place in the late 80s early 90s. At the time his daughter did go somewhat public about the matter and said to have told her father about what had happened which led to him not taking it seriously. She said my father threatened to cut off luxuries given to her by him and stated that Mike just needed therapy. I guess that what he would have wanted if and when he got exposed.

[@MimiPipi-s9e]

Free the Menendez brothers!!!❤

[@ShanaKendle]

You got to love those people who say" I never seen anything going on to convince me that there was anything like that happening". You really think that you're going to go over to somebody's house that's accused of the above mentioned and they're going to just do it right out in front of you!??! because you know it's just normal behavior?? no really that's the most ignorant response to me ever.

[@terrenceolivido741]

i have to say a high powered defence would make your point 100%. so the defence should convince the jury to have a neutral eye to the evidence and not pre-judge it. in fact, one argument is " What sane person(s) would even do what they did? "

[@peggyhelton1499]

Amen

[@ariesfairie11]

Some of you have never been SA'd by someone who was supposed to protect you and it shows.

[@toddsmith1969]

You just don't know how to tell a liar. It shows

[@narmel8165]

People don't know anything about SA but still talking about the thing they didn't even endure. That pisses me of

[@narmel8165]

@@toddsmith1969 how can you be so sure about that, how? What if it's true and they didn't lie? You are accusing them without the knowledge.

[@toddsmith1969]

@@narmel8165 if they hated him so much, why take his money? I want nothing to do with my abuser.

[@narmel8165]

@@toddsmith1969 I don't know about the money part, but I can never say they are liars. I always think what if..

[@dianamcgurk3890]

I was very young when Menudo was popular. There were always rumors regarding the band members being molested but they were all shut down. I remember the Spanish media reporting on it.

[@azgal663]

I don’t care what that woman says. Let those brothers out ASAP.

[@lornarettig3215]

Surely the Menendez brothers have paid their debt to society, and are no threat to their community. It’s time they lived out the rest of their lives in peace.

[@user-fq4jo7tw5k]

In a PEACEFUL PRISON CELL!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@keithabney4665]

@@user-fq4jo7tw5k bet you were the smartest in your class

[@kellio8087]

But once you're put behind bars, they don't care. The system is too far behind. Needs to catch up with reality

[@judithwilliams3147]

This reminds me of Betty Broderick. She's not a danger anymore. But she shouldn't have killed Dan's wife. She was young and Dan's victim too. I think these guys have probably done their time. They aren't sorry either though. I don't think they should have killed their mother. She was an addict. A victim too.

[@keithabney4665]

@@judithwilliams3147 the mother was also sexually abusive to the boys, fortunately she was too zonked on Xanax to do any damage, the same can not be said about their father's attacks. Betty Broderick will die in prison before she expresses authentic remorse over killing Dan and Linda Broderick. Betty also dished out verbal abuse years before Linda showed up. as far as the Menendez brothers, if they were girls being sexually abused by their father they would've been released from prison years ago.

[@2KMMC2]

Them being removed from the will and the dad saying we all make choices (brothers names) and you made yours to me proves that the dad was showing his retaliation.

[@danielleschiazza6172]

Or he was teaching them a lesson! The robbed their parents house! Tf?! They seemed to be spoiled and entitled!

[@cyndivancil402]

People that have never gone through sexual abuse have no clue at all where your mind goes & the impact it has on a person, especially from the time if said person was being abused since a child..

[@moniquenickybasson6903]

As someone who's most worst experience with feeling pain and shame was a black man who purposely walked into my bathroom. I think of everyone who has experienced worse every single day and cry for you all, if i felt like dying and the worst shame for that small experience that still bothers me i cannnot fathom what sa children have to go through ❤

[@tamra9867]

100% Unless you’ve been through it you don’t know. Also, it comes out at different times in different ways.

[@CaToRi-]

In the ‘80, sexual abuse was a big taboo specially for male victims. People would bully them.

[@amandalafond4377]

Kitty's brother talks about protecting her....CLEARLY! He probly knew everything. No one protected those boys

[@F-TYPEMAL]

😂😂 sure

[@kamhyde40]

Good point--I translated his words to mean he was mostly interested in protecting her image rather than seeing the hideous truth of her family. Probably unconsciously thinks it will somehow tarnish him , as well but these events and their consequence aren't about him, are they?

[@terrenceolivido741]

" no one protected the children "

[@macolga100]

"the molestation wasnt happening then" is such a sick thing to say

[@mdoyleproductions9358]

Yeah, she acts like the abuse was just like a headache that comes and goes. If you don't have a headache at the moment, you have no reason the complain. So weird to say that.

[@kimmyfreak200]

that bothered me immensely

[@relindisgola2869]

My heart was broken when she said that

[@melaniewallace6912]

My mom didn't speak of her abuse from her father until I was in my late 30's. No one should be critized for not speaking up. It is something so personal and every one processes and deals with it differently. I think they should at the very least get a new trial. The Uncle is upset because no one wants to believe that their family member could do such a thing. I get that but when there are so many people stating they were how can you still be 100% sure they are lying? The letter can be authenticated through hand writing samples also.

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Call authentication isn’t about whether or not the son wrote it… The question is whether he wrote it after the murders, or before them (trying to make it look like he wrote it before the murders).

[@maliroa6113]

I hate when people ask "Why didn't you say something before?🙄 They've clearly, and fortunately, have never been in a similar traumatizing situation. It's never easy to speak up about these things 😢

[@OLALALA1019]

@@maliroa6113Exactly not to mention half the time the victim is being threatened often by people who can definitely make good on those threats! It irks me so bad when people don’t get it as if they would do anything differently especially if they were threatened!

[@ynow9722]

It's not about not speaking up. But the thing is people lie. Not saying they are but it's convenient timing. Also if they threaten to tell on the father. That's a whole lot easier than murdering someone. Meaning they well aware that they can and should speak up if the allegations are true. You can't just take thier word for it after a brutal killing like that.

[@scapeGOATED24]

Sounds like the father was also emotionally and financially abusive as well. They probably felt like they had no power over their own lives and didn't know who to turn to. They also probably were rich, spoiled kids that didn't know how to support that lifestyle without their parents. Their behavior was more than likely exacerbated by the abuse.

[@deealex1402]

what ive seen child abuse cases, no one in the family knew it was going on. what goes on behind closed doors its not visible to puplic, abusers has a way to hide everything and they are good at it.

[@oliwia2104]

the fact the brother of the mother is even included in this is insane to me, obviously his sister isn’t going to say hey ! me and my husband abuse our kids sexually and physically ! do u want to watch ? likeee obviously they’re not going to abuse the children in front of the family members ect to see ??

[@pinkpugginz]

kitty knew everything

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

Yes, I'm dealing with an abuser now. And it's like he's the author of a play that has become our lives. He gaslights the Police, the Court, soon it will be the turn of the Prosecuting Attorney, and they are all characters in his play. They accept the gaslighting, which generates the story, the play being written (as our lives). I'm still reeeling because I realized that truth is impossible. Only the story, the narrative, the play is possible. And if you now speak the truth, it will be called a lie. Even direct evidence is dismissed before it is properly considered because it contradicts the play's narrative. It's all about the dominant discourse.

[@juliesamples8469]

100% agree!! No one knew what was happening to me and I was taught to believe that it was my fault so I never told anyone except many years later I told my husband. Then in my late 30s I finally confronted my abuser and took my life back!!

[@Prometheuspredator]

​@@nicolasdelaforge7420I appreciate the way you described the summation as this is how true it is.

[@laraoneal7284]

Children are never believed same with adult survivors of childhood trauma. It’s disgusting.

[@cherelled6419]

Agreed! And however they respond is always wrong: they didnt talk, or didn't talk early enough, or didn't tell the right person or didnt say it the 'correct' way or behaved irrationality or not irrational enough. And people wonder why folks just keep these things locked up inside.

[@OLALALA1019]

@@cherelled6419exactly

[@harrymccallum1226]

It's amazing how wealthy people are never held accountable because they're well-known people with money. These brothers should be out and free

[@goo1358]

This was the 90s. Family cohesion was still very important. Parents were considered protectors Killing your parents in 1990 automatically made you guilty, unfortunately

[@MyCold1]

Rubbish. 100% guilty

[@LuisAlvarez-zk1go]

What a stupid comment. What wealth has to do with anything here? How can be held more accountable that being shot many times? And the brothers were obviously as wealthy as the parents and hired expensive lawyers with their parent’s money.

[@dixiefleming518]

Why all the new evidence and now? After all the time that has passed. They still slaughtered their parents. Then went out and spent lots of money on expensive toys. They didn't wait.

[@Alabanzas159]

the uncle is so sure .., Jesus. Im 57 I believed then.. I know Rene Rosello .

[@edengilad4930]

They are such an evil manipulating kids. They were not in danger of being killed. It was not a self-defense. They should stop with this line. They just want to buy the empathy and sympathy from whoever.

[@Hayley2002]

Exactly right!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@genesisesaiah]

If they are lying why would these others say they were molested?

[@nbaoldgirl]

Exactly

[@RockingChairRebel]

A wealthy married lady here in California killed 2 little boys in a crosswalk with her Mercedes. Her car badly damaged from the accident where she had just come from the bar with her lover. Her daughter and husband denied she killed them! 😂🤯 Relatives defend their guilty relatives all the time. The world is filled with liars.

[@Fatimaahmed-lw8tn]

Because they think they want to save them since the parents are already dead. Some family would do that thinking they will save their lives. If dad abuse them why they didn’t say that right away

[@TheRetroWoman80]

​@@RockingChairRebelYou are right. That's just sick.

[@CroMagnon1970]

​@@RockingChairRebelinteresting case, do you happen to remember her name to search for more info on that case?

[@Gravage]

The one thing I have learned from watching these videos is that everyone is a 48 hours consultant.

[@kendallevans4079]

Actually, you see a lot of the same "hired guns". Professional witnesses is what they are. Will swear to anything if the price is right.

[@Bakoska]

and most of the time the murders happens in great places, where everyone knows everyone, they do not lock the doors and victim is almost always the nicest person ever...

[@fokthewef]

Except me.. I'm a critique 😂😂

[@kendallevans4079]

@@fokthewef"critic"!......smh

[@ChewyThomson]

What a coincidence, I'm also a 48 Hours consultant.

[@blue8710]

The silence of a mother who knows about her children's sexual abuse at the hands of the father is nothing less than dramatic.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Marilyn Van Derber's mother was one of the worst yet.

[@Erica-qb6tk]

If she knew and did nothing like it appears she’s just as bad as her husband

[@sheridan1887]

She was evil and diabolical. She will be in torments forever.

[@herokillerinc]

It is absolutely less than dramatic..... it is foul and disgusting

[@VioletJoy]

It's way past time that the spouses are held accountable for their part.

[@ezzb]

The prosecutor literally said that Jose's death was a gift to humanity. How she couldn't find one character witness and people only had horrible stories about him. The brothers had 30+ witnesses on their side. There's a reason they only got a conviction on the second trial after they removed most witnesses, evidence and testimonies of the abuse. Even though their family confirmed.

[@MiracleFound]

There were other young men who also reported that he had molested them. I believe the boys. Their responses are so typical of having been molested. The shame and embarrassment will do it every time. They didn't want anyone to know. That is also why they didn't mention it immediately. I would be suspicious if they had been talking about it to everyone, that would be atypical behavior.

[@terrenceolivido741]

sigh, the labyrinthian layers of psychology, true psychology.

[@skyp9359]

Exactly. The shame and embarrassment makes them what to not even acknowledge what happened. They are brave for coming forward.

[@TheFacelessTraveller]

The family members evidence was enough to know what was happening behind the scenes. Also the band members testimony should have been considered. Seeing that man tear up was heartbreaking. No child deserves any form of abuse and given that it started at an early age, I can imagine how much they had bottled in. I hope they find the justice they deserve.

[@olorin1710]

Unfortunately back then law enforcement and courts were more openly corrupt.

[@jasminemmarsden]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to shed a tear at my father's funeral too.

[@mommybear2]

I have a friend who was raped repeatedly by her father. She shed no tears at his passing. I get it. I wish for you a happy life moving forward.

[@nbaoldgirl]

I wish you the best. I wouldn’t even grace his de-d body with your amazing presence ❤

[@UNKNOWNN713]

❤❤

[@terryellis7692]

I'm not even going to my parents funerals.

[@itzflowers4me]

@@terryellis7692 Same.

[@ashleygrimon1922]

It's so insane to me that all of these people say, "I never saw anything bad happen in that home." First of all, you didn't live in the home. Second of all, do you think Jose was going to just expose himself and tell everyone he was abusing his sons? Those boys were probably scared to tell people. It's so sad.

[@MP-gm5gg]

The letter is legit. They've served their time. Release them

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

NO

[@americancrimejournal]

Only if they can stay at your house with your kids.

[@rhodacruz201]

Legit letter? A joke.

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

@@rhodacruz201 BS LETTER MORE LIKE IT

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

@@rhodacruz201 BS LETTER MORE LIKE IT

[@chenoweezi]

Reading these comments about so many cases is so sad. How can a parent do such to their own kids, the hurt and devastation that trails behind completely annihilates and changes that persons trajectory for life. You are all so strong! God be with you all, I pray for your healing and for a life filled with the peace and joy that you so deserve. Nobody should ever be exposed to such, you are all warriors!

[@soxpeewee]

It's sad to be sure. Kinda crazy though how many people in the comments killed their parents in cold blood and went on spending sprees after being abused

[@jlovelyy]

I’m so genuinely happy that Roy from Menudo spoke up, Ricky Martin is the most famous of them and brutally abused by these men but he never spoke up, to think he could’ve helped save these brothers also atleast Roy was brave enough too!

[@travelingpatti2834]

Unless you are a victim of abuse you have no idea how hard it is for a victim to speak up. No matter what it costs to others.

[@cjking4511]

Hold up. Just because Ricky did not speak up does not mean he was abused by Jose Menendez. There is a timeline difference of when Jose was managing that group and when Ricky joined the music group act. Sometimes predators do not go after the main star because they are too famous or the main star is being abused by someone above Jose's level so Jose might have backed off if Ricky's abuser was Jose's boss, etc. Also, it is Ricky's story to tell when Ricky is ready to since Ricky would have been an abuse victim. Jose was a salaried employee so perhaps they need to investigate Jose's bosses when it comes to Ricky.

[@jlovelyy]

@@travelingpatti2834 first off don't ever assume a person isn't a victim of abuse, and I'm all to familiar with the costs, I get what your saying but stop assuming you know someone from an internet post

[@jlovelyy]

@@cjking4511 I never said he was abused by Jose Menedez but he was definitely abused when he was in Menudo just like Roy was, which was my point, he was seen dressed up as a girl alone in the managers hotel room when he was a little boy, there are plenty of documentaries and reputable sources that you can look into it you wish to, it is his story to tell, just like its my opinion that I wish he would speak up about what happened to him by grown men that ran in the same circles such as his manager and Jose Menendez!

[@joanna7350]

I wish he would have spoken up when this was going on. the brothers lost over 30 years of their life.