4c hair girls desperate to be picked by white man on TikTok?

A TikTok 4c hair discussion about a white man looking for a curly hair girl?
are 4c hair girls now turning into pick me's?

[@theeerarestjewel]

Black women need to come into terms that we have COILY HAIR, NOT ALWAYS CURLY

[@tintamanengu]

❤️💚

[@ohdamnman]

A coil is an extreme curl

[@tintamanengu]

@@ohdamnman ❤️💚

[@theeerarestjewel]

@@ohdamnman yeah extreme curl. But curly hair doesn't loc or coil. Or we wouldnt see coily hair women, copying curly hair routines and failing with keeping up their hair.

[@unfiltered8407]

THIS!

[@AFocusedLiving]

No more caring what men of any race find attractive and focus on our self-esteem.

[@tintamanengu]

@@AFocusedLiving Amen, amen and AMEN.

[@dohyun4787]

Preach , preach ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@noneofyourbusinesslolz6112]

When white men talk about curly hair they 100% mean type 3 hair or wavy hair! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that but if they’re looking for 4C hair, they will say “4C hair” or “coily hair” and that’s just straight facts💯😂

[@tintamanengu]

💚❤️

[@smelly1060]

They talking type 2🤣

[@parisortiz8731]

They would most likely say girls with afros

[@regalclan5202]

Lol , that's ridiculous, only black people know or care about that hair classification , you think a white guy would know what 4C is or coily hair is even some of your black brothers don't know that classification.

[@MaNoZu]

When the lady with locs said “you’re activating my eczema “😂😂😂 I couldnt stop laughing but I agree with her🤷🏾‍♀️ sometimes some of these women do sound desperate

[@tintamanengu]

Too desperate 😞

[@melaninmonroeeee]

Omg she was hilarious. I was screaming at her whole commentary 😂😂😂😂

[@oliviastar3812]

@@tintamanengu Cringeworthy

[@NHIOCAWILLIAMS]

Preach lady with Dred locks!!!!!!!

[@Babyluv_]

I honestly thought he was talking about looser curls. I assumed he meant type 2 or type 3 hair on non-black or maybe biracial women. I’m not sure why women were convinced he was talking about black women. We need to stop the madness. First we had the “lobster and pasta” nonsense and now this. We look SO DESPERATE online.

[@thegoldthatglitters]

Yeah, I knew we were at a (collective) loss when they were doing that disgusting, dehumanizing, degrading, "chilling with my massa" challenge 🤮

[@tintamanengu]

So embarrassing

[@NycBeauty]

@@thegoldthatglittersOh my goodness , I’m glad I don’t have TT. Because that seems like something that would be on that platform.

[@Butterfly-yk9bw]

@@tintamanenguright

[@ravenrebel3183]

Yes, it’s sad and embarrassing. He knows how to say he likes black women if he did, but he didn’t, so that’s not what he meant and they know it. Instead of taking that gracefully black women are jumping up to be clowns 🤡 , smh

[@oliviastar3812]

So if the first girl/woman KNOWS he's talking about others & not black women ... WHY then does she proceed to spend the next 3 mins talking and talking and talking?? I believe the correct term is 'thirsty'?? Get some self-respect and let the man go find whatever he's on about. He knows, he's just attention seeking too. Sad all round. Ok, I'm off the soap box now.

[@tintamanengu]

❤️💚

[@SusieSue242]

Embarrassing

[@tintamanengu]

So embarrassing 😞

[@preyn49]

I think it was misunderstood because he said "natural." I never heard white girls use the term natural. He actually meant naturally curly for his particular type not black women. I've heard white girls say their hair is naturally curly but they prefer it straight. Now that's the language he probably grew up around.

[@tintamanengu]

Could be

[@lalaland2107]

But he *did* say “NATURALLY curly” and even then it still sounds like he’s definitely not talking about type 4 hair.

[@ravenrebel3183]

Yes, because the black community doesn’t own the term “natural hair”-everyone has that. He was talking about curls like Shakira or something.

[@MsLotusBlooms]

I think black falls in that category because they have naturally curly hair.

[@GladToBeNatural]

I wish the black women that stitched didnt say "in the black community" no need to bring all of us into it. He meant beach waves, ringlets, and curls that stretch down. Most white ppl say fro when the mention or like our hair tbh.

[@tintamanengu]

No need to bring us all in it really 😀

[@ravenrebel3183]

Exactly

[@Justcanary8888]

I think he meant women who have type 2-3c hair. Why are bw who have type 4 hair are inserting themselves into this conversation? Decenter wm

[@tintamanengu]

🤷🏾‍♀️makes no sense to me neither

[@ravenrebel3183]

Desperation for wm and hair texture envy-that’s why.

[@TextureTalk1]

I love how they interjected themselves into the conversation. 😂Hilarious

[@emmm_4465]

My first reaction was honestly why are we falling over to present ourselves to ONE WHITE MAN who just said “I lyk curlz”. We need to decenter desperately rather than do the most to be picked especially by YT men, 4CPride ✊

[@ketura_v_art]

All sandals are a type of shoe but not all shoes are a type of sandal; ergo, kinky hair is a type of curly, but not all curls are kinky (that's why being specific matters, and he was quite specific).

[@tintamanengu]

💚❤️ I thought so too

[@honorables9485]

I also think that most black people have coily hair and not curly hair. I grew up in a place where my type of hair was described as wooly so I never thought of my hair as curly.

[@J.A.G.618]

​​@@honorables9485 🙎🏿‍♀️ Wrong! Out curly hair from 3 c to coily which is extreme curly because we are the race of curly hair! We have different textures of curly, different dryness of curly but yes sisters Coily is curly!! I will tell any black sister that. For people to get curly hair in their genetic makeup it's because you have parents that mated with someone with flaxen hair lay down with a curly or coily hair hair person and their children would come out with anything from loose ringlets to coyly curled hair. We are the queens of curls know it!! I love it! From a 65-year-old queen.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@honorables9485]

@J.A.G.618 What applies to you doesn't apply to every black person(Black as in fully black persons, not according to one drop rulers) and likewise with me🙂. I grew up next to black people who had hair that I described, and curly hair is mostly for mixed race people.

[@J.A.G.618]

​​​@@honorables9485 🙎🏾‍♀️ What you think doesn't apply to all black people thinking either! That's the way you think! Your next door experience doesn't apply to all black people experience!!🙅🏾‍♀️ When I was coming up 65 years ago our hair from mildly curly to tightly curl or extreme curly or kinky was all call curly hair! We was taught that we came from the race of people that had curly hair because our ancestors came from a place that was very close to the Sun that's why we are called the sun people! Our hair curled based on the environment as a way it reacted to protect our scalp and our faces and neck from the sun. Our hair that curl and frizzy cover more space across our scalp than a straight strand of hair and the curls also help lift off the scalp which allow air to blow through our hair which was like a coolant instead of having straight hair plastic down on our ancestors's head in the sun. You want to use the word coily cuz it's a trend that you heard some young people that fall for any word that they come up with on the internet then take off as a trends! All the sudden you are expert! All black people have curly hair from springy to tightly kinky curly! Our hair is part of the human race and we are the ones that have the most tightly curled in different ranges of curls in our heads that we already had words for before your trend coily word came along. like we some kind of metalhead head full of metal coils! If you don't know what tightly curled is then 😮you are stupid if you don't know what kinky is then you are stupid because that was the words that we use when I was coming up. 🙎🏾‍♀️ We are the sun people We Are The descendants from our ancestors that were in the land of the sun which was in the African desert and hot areas of Africa !

[@Stoudem]

Curly, coily and kinky are 3 different hair types

[@tintamanengu]

Are they? I always thought they could be used interchangeably but with the last two being more specific.

[@Stoudem]

@@tintamanengu personally I’d say yes. To me kinky hair is hair that doesnt have an obvious pattern unless highly manipulated. Tend to look pretty with Afros. Coily is hair that has a visible coil pattern and easy to define. I’d say my hair is coily, perfection combination of kinks and curls so in the middle. And curly hair is very easy to define. Like the ones in this video that guy was referring too.

[@noneofyourbusinesslolz6112]

@@StoudemTHIS RIGHT HERE! Best explanation I’ve seen BY FAR!💕

[@LethalLemonLime]

​@@Stoudem kinky is a torque in the strand. silky coily hair isn't kinky which makes the coils more visible without product. But the more kinky the hair is the harder it is to see the coils.

[@ravenrebel3183]

Thank you. The delusional black women are kill!ng me.

[@My.HumbleOpinion]

That girl with the red bandana was butthurt. I appreciate you giving them the benefit of the doubt, but idk why everyone just assumed he's not talking about black women too. The third girl in the car had the most realistic take tho. Either way, I bet he wasn't even thinking about it that deep lol

[@disneytoysr4fun975]

Facts, she was the most cringe and you can tell her “jokes” were not her taking it lightly but her trying to make fun of him by being sarcastic.

[@ami-el7dg]

She was so unnecessary. Like she's perfectly aware who that guy was talking about but then she just came in with useless commentary.

[@ahyashah3845]

She wasn't tho 😂😂😂 gtfoh

[@oliviastar3812]

Mum says 'every pot has its lid' and she's 100% right.

[@tintamanengu]

Mum knows best

[@LethalLemonLime]

Some of these stitches and some of these comments under this video are so cringe. They don't see them in the wild because the majority of curly haired girls straighten their hair. And in the wild most black people wear weaves, wigs, and braids so... Anyway, I don't identify with the word curly. My hair is coily or kinky coily if you prefer.

[@msladytmsladyt]

and he said stop straightening the curly hair some black women do have naturally curly hair but he wasn’t talking about those women in this video 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@tintamanengu]

Glad we can agree as a collective.

[@Mini-ge9sm]

And there is nothing wrong with that!! He has a right to liking what he likes. Actually the type he is looking for is maybe biracial or Latina!! The ones in the so called black community he is referring to is maybe mixed!! Stop fighting for someone who does not want you!! Smh😅

[@ambersummer2685]

I think it’s all to feel validated. Trust me no matter what race, if you end up with the wrong guy, validation should be the last of your concerns. Being with someone you mutually love beyond what race you are is important. I mean if you’re into white guys, that’s fine but stop treating attracting them as a flex on how pretty you are. If you’re pretty, you’ll attract anyone. Like can we stop using white guy’s attention as proof of our beauty?

[@emmm_4465]

THANK YOU, It’s energetically tiring always wanting to be picked

[@tintamanengu]

THIS ❤️💚

[@gertrudesatekge2635]

Can we diffrenciate curly from coily? Black people do not have curly hair like 3B/3C at least not a lot of them do. It's not you sis, but it will be one day!

[@tintamanengu]

❤💚

[@melaninmonroeeee]

This is false . I have 3b hair and im blk and the majority of my friends have 3c hair . The are alot of blk ppl with type 3 curls

[@onwardtolanguagelearning7076]

@@melaninmonroeeeebut majority has 4b/4c

[@doll.ov.poetrii4682]

​@@melaninmonroeeee Type 3 black people are the minority. Most type 3 girls have recent admixture even if they claim to be fully black for 5+ generations. The collective of black people throughout the black diaspora have type 4 hair.

[@jerseyreddjc3569]

Black Americans have completely different types of hair from other countries. Many black Americans do in fact have curly hair. The coily people are the ones having an identity crisis.

[@docfabz]

He definitely was talking about loose curls/wavy haired folks. To be honest his video seemed kinda corny or disingenuous and maybe pandering? He sounds like he's from America. Where is he located that curly haired ppl are no where to be found. I could be wrong idk

[@thediscustedkitty6348]

White women and latinas with curly and wavy hair will flat iron their hair every single day. He may very well never see women with curly hair.

[@ravenrebel3183]

@@thediscustedkitty6348I used to do that and now embrace my curls. It’s sad to see and I try to convince others to ditch the flat iron-and with some success!

[@RoyaltyAC]

It kinda reminds me of the guy that decided to go out on a date with women in every state and bw started making videos angry because he didn’t go out with any black women. It’s cringy. Bw please stop begging the approval of men no matter what the race.

[@tintamanengu]

This actually happened? 😀

[@RoyaltyAC]

@@tintamanengu yesss it was maybe about 2 years ago and bw had to gather up those who were acting desperate.

[@leoskiss3390]

I find it odd that people expected a white male to be talking about black women….he’s white I would by default assume he’s looking for non people of color who have slightly curlier hair. I don’t think it’s anything wrong with it

[@tintamanengu]

Exactly what I thought.

[@MsLotusBlooms]

No, I would assume he meant all women who have various types of curly hair.

[@smelly1060]

They just threw the 'joke' in there to seem self aware but they were dead serious.

[@tintamanengu]

😄 maybe they are maybe they're not 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@atthismoment3006]

omg~ this is shameful- he is talking about WHITE women with curly hair!~

[@Christine-hr8in]

Desperation. There's a Big Difference Between Nappy hair and Curly hair. You CAN Get Curly hair at the Beauty Supply store In the Black Community. Truth, you DON'T Have to Prove to Anybody. You're good the way you were made! You can create Versate styles WITH Or WITHOUT Fake hair!

[@tintamanengu]

😄

[@MsLotusBlooms]

"Nappy" hair is the type babies have that is smashed in from taking a nap. Coily hair is tightly curled hair, which is what afro hair falls under.

[@sweetsuite498]

I wish black people would realize one thing above all other things hair: we have every hair type. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. 1-2-3-4- and beyond. Stop thinking a woman has to be mixed race or light skin to have 'CURLY' hair. Contrary to most arrogant beliefs, the USA does NOT have the most diverse group of Africans. Not even close.

[@tbabyyy333]

really?? Who does??

[@JustMeandGod_]

@@tbabyyy333Africa

[@Ashley-tk5we]

I know you're not trying to include North Africa.

[@MsLotusBlooms]

I agree

[@user-tu4rb3ue2h]

IN THE WILD? Where does this man live at? IN THE WILD! When he says wild, I think of the jungle 🤔 😆 Wait! If you know that this guy isn't talking about you, why are you answering 🤔 Some people are desperately thirsty 💦 That's what you are letting people know, not that you're cute 🥺

[@tintamanengu]

It's unfortunate.

[@lalaland2107]

Because a lot of white people have curly hair too it’s just that they straighten it because they’re following the status quo/standards.

[@Allegra7545]

The first woman is goody af! Maaam! Your hair is not curly! 😂

[@2okaycola]

Girls answering his question is helpful to most white peoples who have limited experiences w other races. I think he was referring to 3c too but telling him what’s up w good hair is divine work

[@halroxdynasty8683]

6:16 she's so pretty fr

[@Aniexo_]

“3 going this way” 😂😂

[@tintamanengu]

😀 And I know we collectively understand which way it is.

[@bee6684]

I love my coily hair for me, my daughter and the little ones out there!!!

[@chanellaDaboss]

For me coily hair and curly hair is very different to me. I differentiate them. I feel disrespected by the fact that he said you can put curly hair on anything and it makes it look beautiful. On anything ?! 😅That comment was wild to me.

[@Munixx_]

ah....you know ngl I feel so uncomfortable watching some of my people just throwing their selves at this guy...even if they are only stitching the video. What is with this need for validation from different ethnicities other than our own...I feel saddened like please tell me this is not where we are now... I am aware it's not all of us but I'm hard pressed to believe I am the only one who is uncomfortable with this...

[@jejelaurent9495]

Black women have kinky hair not curly.

[@tintamanengu]

❤️💚

[@doll.ov.poetrii4682]

Some kinky hair is curly. I have 4A/4B afro textured hair that is also curly.

[@tintamanengu]

@@doll.ov.poetrii4682 💚❤️

[@OliviaFranks219]

It is curly, just tighter curls.

[@melaninmonroeeee]

Stop , im black and I have type 3 curls . Do not speak for all blk women smh

[@jerseyreddjc3569]

If you’re a black woman with curly hair, he was addressing you too. That’s why people need to stop calling coils curls. There’s a clear difference. People with coils have been trying to force people to accept their hair as curly and then they get mad when it’s not the preference for curly hair. People with coils don’t like their own hair unless it’s being referred to as curls.

[@J.A.G.618]

🙎🏿‍♀️ wrong! We are the race of curly hair! You just found a new way to say extreme curly hair! Some of y'all young people want to call it coily because it's a trend for right now for you! For proud me We are the race oh people of the Sun. Our ancestors in Africa hair reacted to the environment that we lived in which was extremely hot and closer to the Sun. I hair curled more and more where when it curled it spreaded and covered more scalp areas on the head and creating a natural shade to protect our heads in neck from exposure to the Sun and skin cancer. We wore afros when I was a young woman I'm proud of it and everybody call our hair that was black, each other hair curly because that's what it was. Your curls reflected your skin type that could be dry or even flaxen like a fair-skinned person with straight flaxen hair. You can have extremely coiled curly hair that is flaxen! 🙎🏿‍♀️ We are recognized by the fact that our hair dominates different patterns by curling whatever your genetic hair texture, everybody has their own unique curl pattern that is of the African Sun people, just like fingerprints! Know it, accept it and love it!🙅🏾‍♀️ This is coming from a 65-year-old extreme curly hair Queen.🙎🏾‍♀️

[@jerseyreddjc3569]

@@J.A.G.618 no ma’am. There’s a difference between coily and curly. The problem is that coily haired people don’t like their hair being referred to as coily or kinky UNLESS curly hair is thrown into that mix.

[@J.A.G.618]

@@jerseyreddjc3569 🙎🏾‍♀️ Young lady we didn't have the word coyly when I was a young woman with all of the different curly hair patterns we are known to have! I don't care how tightly curled or loose ringlets your hair be it springy or spiraled we called it curly hair! Our hair is not made of coils! that's a metal! Only metal are called coils! It's just a trend for some of you that heard somebody else use the word coily which is foolishness! We are a curly hair race of people we have different tightness of curls among Us a various ranges we are human beings that have curly hair that's what it was called when I was a young woman and not some word that was referred to as curl metal! Now if you want to be referred to as a metalhead you go right on! That word does not represent the curly hair race which is African and African related people! As if black people aren't part of the human race of human hair! You have humans that have extremely straight hair and then you have hair going into wavy then looser curls we called ringlets then tight curly to extremely curly or kinky and tightly curled spiraled hair! 🙎🏾‍♀️ We are the queens of curls of the sun people that are from Africa and nobody was a shame that was talking about it when I was young!! We black people refered to our hair as tightly curled hair!! And was proud of it!

[@ravenrebel3183]

@@jerseyreddjc3569This-it’s classic self-hate and hair texture envy. And this older woman you’re replying to is just proof that the older ones were even more brainwashed by this propaganda after being exposed their whole lives to it.

[@jerseyreddjc3569]

@@J.A.G.618 y’all had the word kinky or “tightly coiled”as per my elders. I know your feelings are hurt, but facts are facts. I guess you’re part of the crowd that believes anyone with curly hair must be black huh?

[@disneytoysr4fun975]

Does anyone have the last ladies tik tok?

[@tintamanengu]

It's @Anyahwater

[@GladToBeNatural]

Its the blonde braids full video. She was joking but why make a video.

[@preciliabuya5456]

My point is why are you assuming he didn't mean black women too? Stay in my line? What do you mean?

[@ahyashah3845]

They are all still curls do ur reseach ladies

[@miguelaashoo7943]

4:30 a BM could say the SAME thing too! Would it be then ok?

[@tintamanengu]

It wouldn't offend me, but it's not out of this world to think s/o that looks like us might be referring to us. But if that's not it, you keep it pushing.

[@mariepearl-harbour2335]

Coily, Curly and Kinky hair types are found predominantly in Afro-ethnic and Afro-ethnic/mixed/MGM Admixtures communities. Most European women don't have curly hair, only a small few do...

[@LethalLemonLime]

This is not true lol. Coily hair (kinky isn't a curl pattern but a lot of coily hair is kinky) is exclusive to us, but curly hair is not exclusive to us. Like where are you even getting this from. I'm assuming your source is you made it tf up.

[@mariepearl-harbour2335]

@@LethalLemonLime Go get a dictionary and read the definition of a coil . That should answer your question.

[@GladToBeNatural]

​@@LethalLemonLime I'm not gonna lie I have seen white ppl with natural fros but it's rare it's 4a usually in type 3. But I do agree black people have type 3 and type 4 hair

[@ravenrebel3183]

Europeans are predominately in the type 2-3 range, with type 1 being outliers. They straighten their hair.

[@ravenrebel3183]

@@GladToBeNaturalvery few black people have type 3 hair without admixture. Just check out most of Sub-Saharan (black) Africans…hair don’t hang down unless covered in that mud mix. Curls hang down naturally.

[@NHIOCAWILLIAMS]

Curly hair is not nappy hair !!! Two different types!!!! No body in THIER right mind is looking for NAPPY HAIR FACE IT !!!!!!! Why talk about it!!!!!!

[@TextureTalk1]

2:11 she's right though