4L60e no 3rd or 4th gear

Bad 3-4 clutch pack caused by inferior original 3-4 clutch piston

[@dannyharvey9886]

Thank you finlay a video that actually shows what the problem is doing and not just how to replace it. Its doing exactly what mine is doing.

[@MichelLinschoten]

You're dutch.... also pretty known problem the 3-4 clutches burn up. Mine even broke in half, my rebuilder never seen that before lol. But they are pretty straight forward to fix. Rebuild is the best option, if you don't you will get more shot to deal with on the long run . It makes little sense to "just" replace those packs. They all have to come out anyways.

[@CassondraScott]

Thank you. This video and your follow up video is $$ in my pocket. Much appreciated.

[@jaychristensen4600]

+Cassondra Scott Glad I could help.

[@myfinalcut]

where is the follow up video?

[@MarshallDalmatiain]

@@jaychristensen4600 cool

[@TheDasboot11]

From my experience if its a 4wd the Transfer case seal gets hard and develops hair cracks that allow transmission fluid to leak by therefore 3-4 clutch pack get burned up bc lack if fluid. So always replace the seal on it.

[@daniel.r9033]

Vice Enforcer yep just checked my transfer case last night & it was leaking transmission fluid. My 3-4 clutch packed is burnt up so I need to replace it sadly :/

[@sfh2050]

I have the exact same problem with my 04 Trailblazer. Is it a must to replace the solenoids along with the entire transmission?

[@TheDasboot11]

Had this issue. Took out transmission paid $250 get it repaired and $20 for the front transfer case seal(which normally causes 3/4 failure) and put it in and was good to go

[@bowtieoskar2726]

Hey man i have a 92 chevy c1500 that is leaking fluid from tailshaft seal on transmission could this be reason why i dont have 3rd or 4th gear?? Thanks ots a 4l60

[@FernandoRodriguez-ds5ri]

Vice::: how is it doing one year later? Did you go back and rebuild the transmission?

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

1st time I heard about the front transfer case seal causing the 3/4 failure - thanks!

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

You mean the front input seal obviously - from the transmission going into the transfer case...

[@christopherborawski9202]

I’m 16 and got a free 96 Silverado, it was sitting in a field for YEARS, my dad and I got it running and ran great for a weak and then suddenly this happened. My dad and I watched rebuilding videos, and for this trans it’s not that bad. We are going to rebuild and and add an improved 3-4 clutch pack kit. Fingers crossed we don’t fuck up.

[@tonexter]

How did it go?

[@christopherborawski9202]

@@tonexter We were about to do it, but ended up chickening out, and payed to get it rebuilt because rebuilding it is super complex

[@tonexter]

@@christopherborawski9202 about how much did that cost y’all? I just bought a 96 z71 and I want to know how money I need to dump in now

[@briantruck2284]

Good luck

[@DontarriousWilliams-do7ek]

@@tonexterhow much did it cost?

[@oldmanmtb1443]

Haha this guy makes it sound so easy but in reality most people can't even change their own engine oil.

[@danjim7056]

Sad truth :(

[@itchinforfishin8038]

Facts

[@alexpaula9265]

Could be internal or external wire harness or solenoid

[@normalizedaudio2481]

Happy happy, joy joy what a fun job to do.

[@istnichtwichtig4087]

I have the same problem. its the cluster pack from 3 and 4. cost 200 bucks . teh most dificult is to remove the transmission. but low cost is it... bye from Joe

[@mlkaos]

My 2007 is doing the same thing can I do that to ?

[@male1952]

Look up 4l60e transmission you will see about the sun shield and all about the replacement parts you need to fix the trans.aftermarket parts are great the bear sun shield.change out the two shift selonoids two.

[@TECHNOGEEK20000]

I had a 1996 Chevy Blazer that would not go past 2nd gear, so I probably suspect that was my issue, truck is now long gone. When I had it I just drove it in 2nd and had no issues.

[@bgongre24]

that's the boat I'm in with my 2000 chevy Silverado z71. been driving it in second gear for a few weeks. gonna be that way for a few more months unless I somehow inherit a windfall of $

[@MotoHill615]

Great video helped a lot thanks

[@randallstewart8487]

I would pull the pan and replace the junk from factory thats bad to wear and or break plastic 3-4 piston with a metal one first,that would save a lot of work if that is it!

[@corpsepenis]

Mine has a similar issue after having a trans line rot out. A line going to cooler developed a hole and pissed out its fluid on a drive. Replaced all trans lines, added an additional trans cooler, and replaced filter, seal, and fluid to discover it now does this. It had no issues on the drive that the hole developed. When it gets to third, it slips hard; some, but very little of the power is sent to the wheels. I can't test 4th, can't get it fast enough.

[@yourresignation7087]

Did you ever fix this? I had a 00 that just did it last month, I had THE SAME IDENTICAL thing happen to a T, unfortunately the lack of fluid even a few quarts low will foul 3rd gear. It’s very common on the 99-07 especially or similar GMC builds like sub/TB/Yukon whatever. I bought a $200 transmission and just swapped it out, rebuilt other on spare time. Let me know if you need any help.

[@Mr_Tench]

Hey there Jay - Is there a chance that you know of any good videos for dropping, installing, and servicing the transmission? There is a ton out there for rebuild-guides, but not a whole lot in the way of removal.

[@jaychristensen4600]

Erik, Havent seen one but I believe you may have a good point (start with the basics), I'm going to be pulling a 4L80E in the next few weeks and Ill capture a video of my method. I can have a 4X4 tranny out with standard shop tools and a floor jack in under an hour.

[@jaychristensen4600]

Erik, good point to start with the basics- I plan to pull a 4L80E in the next few weeks and Ill try and capture my work for youtubers, I am usually able to remove a 4X4 tranny in less than an hour or close to that with a floor jack/tranny jack and some basic tools, I do like to have a very long extension to get the top bell bolts from underneath and not crawl around under the hood. If you do it first, remember to disconnect the torque converter first so it comes out with the tranny.

[@mrobailey]

Jay Christensen did you ever make a video on 4x4 removal?

[@jordanparker8359]

Dang.. this is exactly what mine is going don’t feel like pulling the trans though 😭

[@youalreadyknow8019]

hi. I have a 2001 Chevy suburban with 4l60e and having problems but don't know what it might be. I put it in drive it drives but don't switch gears like it should and after a while it gets second gear but no 3rd or 4th and no reverse and rpm be at 4000 and still no change of gear. Any idea of what it might be would help out.

[@celayense10]

Did you fix it

[@KingStepside]

3-4 clutch packs or the sunshell is always the problem with the 4l60

[@JoseGonzalas]

Why tear it down without fixing the issue why it burns 3-4. The reason is because the piston that applies the 3-4 clutch passes fluid through its seals and it ends up slipping said clutch until it burns out. The pistons are not far to go once you go down that far

[@JoseGonzalas]

That is if everything else checked out into the tear down such as valve function

[@4321alireza]

Did anyone fixed their car, what was the problem? I have a 94 silverado, car didn’t work for 15 years, when I started to test the car, 1st and 2nd is smooth but I have to press the gas pedal few times to go 3rd and 4th

[@andrewbragg8636]

Changed out 4l60e 4x4 transmission now speedometer don't work want change gears to third or fourth has no power

[@chiefranson896]

Did u get it fix and was that really the problem

[@satsumagt5284]

What comes after second? Third? No, neutral!

[@geoff0brn]

What rebuild kit did you use?

[@jaychristensen4600]

Sorry about the late response (I think my notifications go to junk mail), It was an ALTO but Ive since been using ITW kits.

[@michaelo1492]

Where did you buy the parts? My truck JUST started doing this 3-24-19.

[@jaychristensen4600]

Ebay

[@georgec.6989]

@@jaychristensen4600 did you ever get your truck fixed?

[@dylanrose5877]

mine is doing the exact same thing what is the rpms you can run in second gear without blowing the trans case

[@johnwillis2719]

I wouldn't Drive it far distance or pass 45 MPH by much. About 3500 Rpms is pretty hard on your engine when drving long distance

[@jaychristensen4600]

Repair complete, It was the 3-4 clutch pack but I went ahead and did a complete rebuild. Follow up with link to the instructions I followed are at kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3WtoImflK5gesk cost of $175 plus fluid/filter.

[@WallaceRoseVincent]

Jay Christensen

[@tommywilliams1131]

Jay Christensen i have a 2003 with the same problem mine aint all the way out yet. but im gonna do a complete rebuild.

[@FernandoRodriguez-ds5ri]

Jay:: so would you recommend only replacing the clutch pack or would it be better to just rebuild the transmission the first time around? I’m kinda in the issue with my 2009 Silverado but I’m thinking of just rebuilding instead of putting a bandage on an open wound. What’s your thoughts on this.

[@garymerseal6128]

I know this is a couple years old but hoping to get a little more info. Mine was taking off in 2nd and that was the only gear I had. And it now shifts hard into reverse. It never did that before. I shut off truck and restarted and now I have 1st and 2nd but no 3/4. Was thinking the power train control unit wasn’t sending signal to 3/4 clutch packs. Would I be able to test this before start to go thru this transmission.

[@jaychristensen4600]

@@garymerseal6128 personally I feel you have the same problem but the TCM is probably exasperating the issues by attempting to interfere with the problem. Another issue is the reverse, one of the first indications your tranny is spent. Sorry I don’t have better news for you and of course I could be wrong, that would be my best guess. I can say if you ever wanted to try you’re hand at a rebuild, this is a good one to start with and fairly inexpensive parts for it.

[@javierpadilla4129]

I have a 1994 GMC sierra 1500. My truck starts just fine. It will switch from 1st to 2nd but as soon as i hit about 25mph the rpms jump to redline and doesnt go any faster. Does this in OD and D. And now I'm hearing a loud whining noise at about 1200rpm when pressing gas pedal in park AND in drive. Please let me know if you have a solution.

[@chasecrigger1936]

Did you ever find out what the problem was mine is doing the exact same thing, I replaced the TV cable and the fluid is good.

[@usmcdoc9383]

Did you find the problem, my 94 is doing the same thing

[@larrymoulton4302]

I have a 93 4l60e 2wheel Dr tranny won't shift into 2 3 4 good 1st and reverse any suggestions

[@rodjone4368]

Mines doing that now

[@jaybrown5493]

I have a 00 Camaro SS I can shift from 1st gear to second but when I try to shift to 3rd gear the Rev meter revved upl very high and won't go into 3rd gear do you think it's the same issue ?

[@jaychristensen4600]

That would be my best guess, fairly common issue

[@charliecuster2034]

So i have a 98 gmc suburban 5.7l im having shifting issues i go in 1 gear for about 35mph n about 4000 rpm then shifts into another gear and sticks go about 45 mph 50 mph will not shift into another gear only have 2 gears like

[@jaychristensen4600]

Charlie, sounds as if this is the same issue, very common.

[@jaychristensen4600]

Charlie-it sounds as if your tranny has a different issue, passage blocked, something is sticking. I would suspect valvebody to start with. At least that is low hanging fruit, pull one (Valve body) from a pick-a parts and swap out with new fluid. If that doesn't fix the issue your only out 60ish and a few hours labor.

[@jameswallace7646]

Whenever you say goes to neutral is it like nothing there because mine will still pull just won’t swap out?

[@jaychristensen4600]

Just as if you moved the shifter to neutral

[@alfredbarrozo2542]

I have a 2002 Chevy trailblazer LT 4wd.. the code I pull up is P1484.. I seem to be having the same problem. Won't shift into 3rd and 4th gear. Plus my service engine light and reduced engine power light is on. I really need help.

[@adanaleman3804]

Alfred Barrozo it's probably your TCC control valve

[@gustavouribe518]

My truck acts weird after 30 mph same as this is it the transmission

[@daniel.r9033]

Gustavo Uribe if it doesn’t shift over to 3rd & 4th year then yes it is a transmission issue

[@u1richh]

I'm looking at a 2000 Camaro Z28 with an issue like this (same trans, won't go over 40).

[@amonntyler1364]

Did you ever figure out the problem same here

[@YEARS_OF_TEARS_BLUES]

It's one of three things it's either the fuse the three four clutch packs have gone bad or it's your B shift solenoid my thought would be hopefully it's the shift solenoid but more than likely it's your 3-4 clutch pack

[@abe6517]

Yeah? I'm having this with a 94 k1500 sub. I replaced both a and b solenoids. They looked a little different on the screen end but popped in the same. New fluid and filter oil change. Haven't checked fuses tho lol. It couldn't be that simple. It was fine before tune up and after it started slipping out of 2nd. I thought I kicked a wire or vacuum hose off. No luck in finding anything yet, it was shifting great before tune up and oil change.

[@charlesr.miedingiii7651]

@abe6517 what was your issue? Is it fixed?

[@charlesr.miedingiii7651]

@@abe6517what was it? Did ya get it fixed??

[@juicyfru2174]

I've got 2001 tahoe and i can only get low gear. it won't shift into high gear. Top speed is 30mph. anyone know what the prob could be please? forgot to add that it has 5.3L vortec

[@juicyfru2174]

I've got a 2001 5.3l tahoe that won't shift into high gear. Top speed is 30 mph in low gear. anyone know where I should look or which tranny solenoid I should change if that the prob. need a little help please

[@marshawnstewart5420]

@@juicyfru2174 same

[@satsumagt5284]

PNNNNL, Nice

[@scottocallaghan2496]

does anyone know witch coulor wires to cut from your btsk pcm 16210672 to make your 4l60e gearbox hold first and second it's for my first skid car I only do it legally on a pad any help would be appreciated thanks?!

[@michaelsherman2767]

I put a 2000 4l60e behind a 96 v6. Hooked everything up. Wont move. Any ideas?

[@robertscheck7204]

Torque converter

[@juanj6116]

My 98 just started doing this on 2nd transmission damm!

[@randy1ization]

because morons just fix the symptom not the real problem..

[@DarkLinkAD]

@@randy1ization Old post but whats the real problem?

[@randy1ization]

@@DarkLinkAD his 3 4 drum seal is leaking. special tool needed to replace it, and many neglect to replace it.

[@randy1ization]

there are several weak points in the 4l60 that can be addressed with a real rebuild. a real rebuild is not cheap, but once done with correct updates, very dependable.

[@kendallmagee5653]

I have a 99z28 camaro. Car drives good as long as your just riding. When I try to get performance out of it, It goes from 1st to 2nd fine, but 2nd to 3rd it goes to rev limiter... Any suggestions?

[@jaychristensen4600]

Just a guess, but I would say your 3-4 piston is failing at higher pressure and clutches are soon to follow, other guess would be a pressure issue with pump. In any case, there is pressure loss under WOT.

[@ogheneyomaedafitohwo3519]

Hello, my old automatic transmission moved on only one gear (like a reverse gear). I changed it, but the new one is same thing. I've tried new brain box, I've scanned the car, it shows no problem. I've had an electrician check the car and he said the fuse is good. Is it possible that the fuses are good but not receiving enough current or have some other issue?

[@jaychristensen4600]

My guess would be the new transmission has the same issue (Im guessing you put a used one in), If it only goes in reverse I would guess its a hard part issue.

[@ogheneyomaedafitohwo3519]

@@jaychristensen4600 No, I mean driving forward, it only moves on one gear, just like reversing only has one gear. The old gear box was a new one too. It worked fine until we noticed it leaked oil. We tried stopping the leakage and couldn't, so the supplier decided to exchange it for another one for me. But when picking it from the mechanic trying to stop the leakage, I noticed the problem of forward driving on just one gear. I didn't complain at that point because I thought since I was getting a new one, the problem will stop. I've gone back to the mechanic though, he scanned the car and said it is MAP sensor. I asked how likely it is that MAP sensor will cause such an issue, and he said it's a possibility, although I take that with a pinch of salt.

[@jaychristensen4600]

@@ogheneyomaedafitohwo3519 If it is the same issue with both new transmissions then you have likely ruled out several possibilities, The Map sensor likely has nothing to do with it, but I would first start there anyway in order to see if you can operate it without any new codes coming up. The computer will not always tell on itself for the true problem so if you can get it code free, that would likely eliminate that issue as well. Meaning it may not be the problem but may be a clue, Look for any areas that electrical operates that may have been saturated with oil or has been chewed by mice or rubbed on something, check the electrical connections at the tranny and the TCM (transmission control module). I should also say that I have had a bad transmission control module on another vehicle that was bad but was not throwing a code. On this particular vehicle, oil passed through the wiring into the TCM and I noticed a stain in the carpet by the TCM (it was a Mercedes) What type vehicle is it?

[@ogheneyomaedafitohwo3519]

@@jaychristensen4600 It's a Kia Rio 2009, the electricians (cause I've been to several) have all said the electrical components are perfect: current is running through all of them. But, is there a possibility that the right voltage is not running through them?

[@ogheneyomaedafitohwo3519]

@@jaychristensen4600 Can the ECU and TCM for a Kia Rio 2009 be different?

[@user-tl1no9bi4r]

My 97 is the same darn way.

[@karma2227x1]

Omg ty ty ty lol yes! But shit!! I dont wanna. I need to drive 3 hrs away and dont have time for this. But Finally exactly what I'm dealing with then have issues with gauges ECT.

[@ryanaldrich8721]

Mine drives in 3 only i can increase speed but of course rams are high at that moment due to no shifting any idea before I tear it apart

[@dmo5887]

You figured out the problem

[@donaldsweeney6111]

Fuse

[@mvilla1423]

Hello Jay I have a 95 chevy Suburban 5.7 automatic.1&2 gear but when 3 or 4th shift wants to go it doesn't shift it's like on neutral.What do you think it might be ?

[@jaychristensen4600]

Maria Your having the same problem, I would bet on it. Symptom is pretty consistent.

[@garygushue4273]

Did you ever check the throttle position sensor?

[@rodjone4368]

My car got first and reverse tranz good tho u think that whT it is

[@yourresignation7087]

Rod Jone436 did you ever get any help bud?

[@tylerparker3024]

I feel like mine is skipping a gear it seems like it shifts too low too fast idk what the deal is.

[@garygushue4273]

Sounds like throttle position sensor. That's what mine was. I bought a 96 chevy with a 5.7 for $500 transmission issue guy didn't want to put $1,000 for trans so i took it home & bought the throttle position sensor $20 from dealer. Put it in just like a brand new truck! Spent $620 total price with the trans flush. Were in 2020 & that bitch is still going with no issues. I guess i waz just lucky this day

[@aavaz3043]

Before you star spending money check your transmission oil. If you good look at the oil the color and smell. If look good check your fuses and tcm connection. If is all good get down your truck or suv follow the cables all the way to your transmission look for any damage or lose connection. Look at the ground cables if they lose or need it to be clean. If you add any Lucas or any product to your transmission put it on all the gear wait 10 minutes before you select the next rear. For those products to work if you overheated your transmission is a valve the open to help your transmission if this happen to you on a raining day probably water got inside your transmission. Before you star taking a part or change anything from your transmission I recommend to have it scanned to see if something what is not working on your transmission. If your truck or suv is reading the speed don’t change your speed sensor do it if you think you going over 20 miles per hour and show the you going 2 miles. But most of this cases they did over heat they transmission why because your transmission oil was low or something it blocking your oil. If you need to replace your transmission or rebuild it look for a better one lol but if this transmission is really bad it will have a recall and I don’t think is one. But this truck and suv do have a lot electrical problems. Good luck 👍

[@aavaz3043]

And 2007 tahoe has 2 recalls for electrical problems. This way I recommend to take a look to your fuses wires and connections.

[@davejohnson4472]

How about the 3rd the 4th shift solenoid

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

that would throw a service engine code light

[@kaguscon]

When I start it and start driving, everything is good. However, after driving a bit, it won't shift into 3rd. If I stop and turn off and let it sit for a bit, it drives fine again. Already did the solenoids A and B and fluid change. Is this an electrical issue elsewhere? If it's the clutches, why does it work after a turn off?

[@chasehicks5621]

Conatus you have stuff in your transmission clogging the pump. When you turn it off, no fluid is moving and all the junk falls to the bottom of the pan. Once you start it and start driving, all the junk gets sucked up in the pump and clogs it.

[@DO-sq2oo]

Did you solve this? I have the same problem but it’s getting worse

[@danekilpatrick6215]

Im having a similar issue with a 1995 GMC Sonoma 4.3 the trans was replaced a while back with about 30k on it. The truck will crank and run great, shift just like its supposed to then once on a bumpy road the speed odometer will start acting crazy (jumping up and down) then eventually fail to zero and the trans acts like its in neutral. It will take 1st and 2nd but acts in neutral when in OD and D. I have replaced the VSS (no different). Also changed the filter and fluid. Any advice would be appreciated.

[@stevestroisch1111]

Mine did this wouldn't shift past 2nd gear replaced speed sensor on the transfer case and it fixed it

[@gala83filmstaylorg7]

Steve Stroisch what kind of truck?

[@stevestroisch1111]

Galaracingfilms GR 95 gmc 4l60e

[@gala83filmstaylorg7]

Steve Stroisch buying an 06 f150 with the same problem..

[@TV-nd4ul]

Mines does same thing but it grabs 3rd at 5k rpm. Do you know What does that mean?

[@DYLAN102001]

It doesn't grab 3rd gear it just downshifts to 2nd. Rebuilding the transmission in my dad's corvette same basic tranny.

[@davidaubin592]

Shifting sensors

[@stihlguessin210]

Mass air flow sensor ? Computer ground issue? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@codycarrigan6287]

Lmfao just leave 3rd and 4th out and call it a powerglide XDDD

[@kristopherhasenbuhler5393]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT MINE DOES😂😂😂😂

[@tmurph247]

I just got mine back from the shop today for this same issue, complete trans year down and rebuild, 15 miles down the road... no 3rd or OD... shop is not happy.

[@kristopherhasenbuhler5393]

@@tmurph247 yup, It's usually electrical and very fee transmission shops realize it before the tear down a perfectly good transmission for the 2nd time.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@kristopherhasenbuhler5393 that's what the mechanic said - it might be electrical. He will check for electrical - and if not then order a new transmission rebuilt.

[@davidaubin592]

Shifting sensor

[@ryanwerrell7484]

No. It’s the 3-4 clutch pack. The piston inside has allowed fluid to leak through due from heat and age. You need a new piston and a 3-4 clutch pack

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@ryanwerrell7484 that's what I told the mechanic - I presented him with a new piston and a 3-4 clutch pack. He said - he'd rather just get a warranty rebuild transmission. hahaha.

[@robertcampos4204]

If you just replaced the 3-4 clutch pack other parts will start to break and won't correspond well Its always recommended to do a rebuilt with great quality parts, I got mine fixed for $1700

[@WE-The-People-July-4]

👍👍👍🇺🇸🟥🌊

[@randy1ization]

your full of shit and dont know what your talking about ,, the 3/4 clutch pack fails due to incorrect pressure rise.... the pressure rise malfunction is due to a leaky valve body.. the clutches can only apply and hold, as firm as the hydraulic pressure forces it to.. tghis is why transmission repair is so failure prone, you dont look at the real problem, u look at the symptom.,. the valve body gets upgraded so that the 3/4 gets more apply pressure.. a properly updated and rebuilt 4l60e will last a very long time..

[@brenninknudson6017]

Weird my 4l60e in my 01 silverado LS 4.8 1500 has 4 gears 1,2,3 and Drive which is 4th gear of I had over drive there would be the letter O over the D. So no there not over drive my took a crap I only can go 30 mph do t have 3rd or 4th gear