4x4 Test: Toyota Tundra / Diagonal and Auto LSD / A-Trac test!

[@evilamc1962]

I wanted to cry when they decided to turn right with 4x4 on. You can just hear the tires chirping

[@zoeyredmond5501]

Armando Sturzenegger he thinks the differentials are locked in 4x4 mode causing one tire to skid during a turn but I’m fairly certain the tundra has limited slip differentials preventing this but I could be wrong.

[@evilamc1962]

Zoey Redmond my last truck was a 2010 and it would lock right up if I trying turning on dry pavement while turning. Say I was turning right my rear right tire would start chirping

[@zoeyredmond5501]

Evil AMC ah ok, I thought there was a button you had to push to lock the diff even in 4x4, my mistake.

[@theinternets7516]

@@zoeyredmond5501, In 4x4 the center diff is locked. The front and rear are open. You should never drive on dry pavement with a true 4x4 system engaged. AWD is okay because the center diff isn't locked in AWD.

[@SamSam-ke9zy]

@@theinternets7516 By center diff I'm pretty sure you mean front and rear drive shafts. @Evil AMC The differentials are still open, the drive shafts are locked so the tire chirping is from a front wheel not moving the same speed as a rear wheel. Not form one front wheel moving faster than the other front wheel.

[@bernardhossmoto]

Impressive axle twist angles!

[@CarQuestion]

imagine a TRD PRO version :)

[@SgtRudySmith31bRet]

CarQuestion imagine a jk Rubicon

[@axsb]

we need a video for trd pro

[@aquaticterrafirma]

Imagine a Rubicon pulling 10,000 pounds.

[@GOD719]

Not really. My truck has the same. My brothers F150 is a little better. Here is a video of both kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXmnp3loe5eVjsU

[@wilhelmvo6399]

open differentials using the brake system to instead of clutches within the differentials. Easier maintenance instead of tearing apart your diffs every 30k to 40k miles and replacing clutch packs. I like it. I think they should have used torsen differentials and the brake system.

[@spencerali1659]

Dat solid axle articulation

[@marcosantoniosalgado8712]

in my opinion; it all depends on the driver experience!! I own a 2017 SR5 Tundra, and have been in some very squechy sitiuations!! but still alive,(both of us!), in my opinion; its the driver; type of tires; and most important; know your vehicle!!!

[@CarQuestion]

i own a tundra, and you know what you need for this test? A locker. not an Auto LSD. Never judge the driver :)

[@trysplendid56]

lol that last part of the vid i thought he was taking a run up to jump off the ramp. The jump test.

[@CarQuestion]

lol sorry, we wont go there LOL!

[@westernsharpie]

nice driving sir

[@MrMillwood500]

No sand test with the Tundra?? Enjoyed the tests you did conduct, more romping past the camera wouldn't make me mad either :)

[@CarQuestion]

+MrMillwood500 actually i found this footage on my iPhone so reused it! So for the future there will be sand test when the snow will melt ;) What's romping?

[@MrMillwood500]

CarQuestion Acceleration runs past camera

[@Highlander-ys2ei]

Can you do a diagonal test with the Toyota Venza? I’ve been waiting and looking but there is nothing anywhere Thanks

[@LowGearOfficialGroup]

Great content on ur channel, I like it

[@CarQuestion]

thanks!!!

[@bradystanga7688]

will it always be new vehicles or do you sometimes do older vehicles?

[@CarQuestion]

we can sometimes try used one if you have a request we could try to do it!

[@parkadiy1984]

надо тоже самое сделать,только зимой !

[@Роман-д8й6н]

Да уж на пробуксовку наверно времени не будет съедет

[@Whiskeybende]

I have a 2017 TRD Pro and nothing says "A-trac" on the dash. All I have is "Auto LSD" (which is a joke) and "Traction control off"

[@troyfoutz4807]

You have more than you know on your truck. I have a 2016 TRD PRO and you have to research it like i did. I love my truck and have done the same test just in a grass ditch. It does great.

[@DJ-du4tq]

I don't understand... What is the difference between auto lsd and traction control?

[@John-uj9zy]

@@DJ-du4tq Auto LSD is at its core just another form of traction control. The brakes are used to stop the wheel that's spinning in order to send power to the stationary wheel. It's not at strong as traditional LSD. Unlike mechanical LSD the Auto LSD has to loose traction in order for power transfer to occur. That is why the wheel spins for a second or so before power is transferred. Someone chime in if I got that wrong. A regular LSD need major maintenance every 75k-150K miles. This traction controlled open diff system could easily last for 200k.

[@Terminxman]

it always turned me off that the Tundra TRD OR/Pro do not have locking diffs, but it seems like the auto "LSD" works pretty well.

[@kojpim271]

Terminxman it works but it takes awhile for it to activate

[@markwinham8672]

Panel-Az

[@fuzzy176]

This is bullshit just like my tacoma thers no LSD diff its just the ecu and sensor, when the ecu detect a wheel spin then he aply the break on this wheel so it transfer the energy to the other wheel

[@Anything_Goes1975]

My TRD Off Road Taco has the auto LSD, locking diff, and atrac.... The more expensive Tundra should really come with s locking diff

[@juangil6252]

0:36 that doesn't sound too happy.

[@CarQuestion]

yep but can't figure out where this was coming from ;(

[@thaneonyou]

there is no center diff for 4x4 all Toyotas will chirp the tires on pavement when in 4 wheel drive except the high end 4 runner and the land cruiser.

[@juangil6252]

Adam Harr So it won't bend itself ?

[@juangil6252]

Adam Harr BTW i'm talking about the whine 0:36 not the tires chirping..

[@thaneonyou]

Juan Gil sorry I didn't pay attention to the time stamp. it sounds like the diff whineing . normally the tires give up a long time before the drivetrain will brake

[@mrvoyagerm]

Thanks, I needed that!

[@steveaustin9386]

Is there a vid on the Toyota Highlander doing this? From what I've seen of it off road the traction control is shite!

[@highplainsdrifter9849]

Domestic fan boys always crying we need lockers. Who the hell needs lockers. LSD/ Atrac is just fine.

[@thomasgriffin3474]

What you didn’t show is with VSC off

[@enigmaticfoo]

On pavement is a different story. On graval sand or dirt it WILL struggle. And it depends on tires too! Coming from a taco owner

[@v1antbo]

Nope, never struggled

[@rodriguezdelbydr]

Something was deff binding under that truck

[@John-uj9zy]

Does the auto lsd system apply to the front diff? To my understanding the front is a regular open differential.

[@CarQuestion]

only rear wheels

[@bestcarreview5021]

Cool video

[@chrisfisher3900]

So if traction control is off and your in 4x4 atrac is automatic

[@williamcrews1525]

Yes, LSD is for 2WD and atrac works in 4WD. But, in 2WD, you have to choose atrac (no action req'd, atrac w/Auto LSD push atrac button once or no atrac w/auto LSD engaged push and hold atrac button for 3 seconds or more). In 4WD atrac takes over and this allows the computer to monitor all 4 wheels and apply more/less power or more/less brake to the appropriate wheel. It's really not a bad system. People who don't like it usually prefer lockers or mechanical LSD systems for their peace of mind or just because that's what they know. If a stock Tundra Pro with the exact same system shown in the video, just upgraded suspension, can do Hell's Revenge with this system, I'm gonna say it's a fairly capable system. I've had two Tundras now and the system works as advertised. I may put an air locker in my rear differential but, just because I do occasional off-roading where the hesitation of atrac can be the difference between making a really tough/technical trail or not.

[@Toni-pt6md]

Love it

[@swinn5888]

it would seem to me with the research that I have done the axel is truly locked in 4x4 and there are at 2 wires going to the diff so I think that its an e-locker, if anybody who has actual knowledge of the diff and possibly has taken apart the Diff could you confirm that. please for the love of christ do not just say that it is a auto lsd and and an open diff without somehow explaining how that works with the wheels not spinning in 4x4 and they do in 2x4 even with the A-LSD turned on. if it is an e-locker is it possible to rig up a button to 24v or 12v to actuate it in 2x4 for better dirt drifting or other offroad/burnout uses?

[@jbw5485]

S Winn I’m pretty positive the tundra does NOT have locking differentials. Tacomas do

[@catdieselpower193]

best of the best rite here!! my 2015 tacoma TRD OFF ROAD will shame anny truck in this test! GOOO TOYOTA! But I wish they would make A-TRAC Easyer to figgure out!!! I hate that part is the only bad thing I have to say u gotta be a dammed computer whiz to figgure it out! And mine is a 6spd manual! as well ;-)

[@CarQuestion]

same thing also here! The system is more easy to understand in the LX570 :P

[@athaothao2880]

nice year 2018 tundra atrac auto lsd

[@twinturboranch454]

Number 1 reason why i didn't buy a tundra. no rear locker. My electronic rear locker is a beast.

[@magnetk9937]

A lot of y’all sound like babies honestly complaining about what your truck doesn’t have joke this and that you knew damn well what you were buying when you signed I race mine and that lsd kicks in good

[@rkan665]

Is that a Multi-Link rear suspension?

[@CarQuestion]

Heavy Duty Multi Leaf Springs

[@CarQuestion]

with Bias Mounted Gas Shock Absorbers

[@deng3028]

Toyota highlinder platinum 3.5 2021 pkease

[@roberthillsjr.3729]

The 2 wheel drive did it better than the 4X4

[@etiennescarbinski7890]

Need some ko2s on that bad boy

[@JW-lo1ts]

Toyota still has the design flaw in the HVAC system which allows Mold and Bacteria to grow, in the evaporator, call Toyota to document the problem, Still using Soy based insulation on wiring, still the mice problem Toyota : 800-331-4331

[@Anything_Goes1975]

J W my 2012 Taco a.c. is ok but my wife's 14 Venza has the mildew stench as well

[@tupapisoyyo676]

What model years?

[@cleavanthomas3547]

Can you guys test 2011 to 2018 dodge durango?

[@zacharymartin4861]

It physically hurts me to see you take a turn in 4wd. If you are on dry pavement and need to turn, PUT IT IN 2WD. You're damaging the truck.

[@bobbybrown614]

its bad to drive in 4x4 on dry pavement?

[@hijodepuuu]

@@bobbybrown614 I think its the turning.

[@stratolestele7611]

@@bobbybrown614 yes

[@blakeadkins138]

How do you activate atrac in 4wd? Same as activating auto lsd just in 4wd instead of 2wd or is it automatic in 4hi and 4lo

[@killerjumbotony]

Blake Adkins Atrac only activates in 4lo at low rpms 1800-2200 is the sweet spot.

[@mr.mg428mm2]

Toyota i feel you could have done a better job with that rear axle. Why not design a nice locker for that beefy axle, rather than the electronic brake applied joke of a “locker”.

[@beauhawk1146]

Because

[@kojpim271]

How do you active 4lo

[@CarQuestion]

You have to put the truck into Neutral, then turn the rotary dial to 4low.

[@kojpim271]

CarQuestion can you test toyotas awd systems

[@rotaxrider]

I was actually surprised how well it did in 2WD LSD and nothing surprising in 4WD. You gotta get a new F150 to try and one with E Lock :)

[@kzb1414]

سيارة جميله وقويه جداً.

[@Texasbroski512]

Cmon toyota give is a damn locker the f150s have one

[@eddsramm1]

I love Tundras but I can't trade my 2009 for a new one. the new grille reminds me of my grampas old 60s truck. I'll wait till Toyota gets their shit strait. it's just one horrible front end design. 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

[@LinusScrubTips]

It doesn't look anything like a 60s truck to me, but wouldn't that be a good thing? Trucks in general have been getting uglier and uglier.

[@areeskinwar7274]

Get rid of that stupid brake fake lsd and put a real LSD in the rear and Locker in the front and this truck is the best out there. Great power, handling, MPG but shitty traction

[@kenstirling5348]

Truther 416 exactly!!!

[@williamcrews1525]

Locker in the front? On anything but a dedicated off-road vehicle is stupid. If it's selectable it's still going to put a lot of additional stress on that IFS diff. Only in the rear do you really need one 99.9% of the time.

[@666dynomax]

Truther 416 I agree

[@YouTube4animal]

قويه جدا

[@TJNightTrain]

LoL all these losers who voted -82.... bought a Ford Ranger.

[@briangudino726]

i have a 2016 tundra 4x4 and when im offroading a hear a crunching noice coming from under my shifting area. does anyone know why this is happening??????

[@CarQuestion]

do you have a video of that sound?

[@briangudino726]

CarQuestion . no unfortunately i dont.. but it sounds like clicking plastic.. and when the crunchy noice goes i can feel it also in the gas pedal.. the truck only has 7500 miles its still new. i took it in to dealer and they said its normal but it doesn't sound and feel normal.. it only happens when it looses traction when i get stuck on sand and stuff...

[@CarQuestion]

That's strange, we have a tundra as our production car and there is no such noise. You have noise coming from the traction control or auto lsd feature wich is similar to abs brakes. Can you try to do a video and send it to us?

[@briangudino726]

CarQuestion ofcourse.. i will send it as soon as i am home from work tonight.. thanks for the help

[@TFJ4runner]

That noise you hear is the brake system pulsing. It's the sound of ATRAC working

[@rotaxrider]

I think I’m going to unsubscribe:(

[@666dynomax]

That ain't no locking diff

[@CarQuestion]

Auto LSD

[@chadsteele1]

After viewing one of these and the Titan, the titan wins hand down. Tundra is long in the tooth and I really dislike their snub nose front end. Does nothing for me.

[@trevorc5477]

C Steele but Toyota still outsells the titan 10:1 with a 12 year old engine lol

[@kojpim271]

Trevor C the titan just came out sooo..

[@alextran8188]

Kongmeng Vang the Titan has been on the market for years soo...

[@kojpim271]

Alex Tran the titan just got redesigned sooo..

[@HDuBon-ds1tx]

Do you want to go read up in a TITAN forum, and then a TUNDRA forum... if you want a giant piece of garbage and zero responsibility from manufacturer , buy a TITAN. You want a truck that can go 1M miles, keep 70% resale value, almost zero maintenance, and a 1/2 ton rhat out performs a 3/4 ton? TUNDRA.

[@DavidStanleymusic]

The only thing I see is the 3.2 billion Toyota just paid out in another round of prematurely rusted out frames.

[@flight2k5]

David Stanley all manufacturers have rust issues. If you don't see that, you're just a blind fan boy

[@DavidStanleymusic]

flight2k5 But Only Toyota is paying out 3.2 billion dollars to replace frames. the other companies use High strength steel which is stronger and lasts longer.

[@flight2k5]

David Stanley yea thats not true. Domestic trucks have just as bad rust issues. If you deny this, youre either ignorant or lying.

[@DavidStanleymusic]

flight2k5 none have rust issues as bad as Toyota It would behoove you to google "Toyota rust frame" Before you make such claims. Toyota still uses scrap metal for building their vehicles.. I dare you to google it and come back here and be a man about it and admit you are wrong.is that may be too much to ask of you.

[@flight2k5]

David Stanley ok youre obviously a fuck head and refuse to acknowledge that domestic have just issues just as bad.