5057 Orbit: How Does It Sound?

Hear the difference the 5057 Orbit makes on a mix: ITB vs. analog summing, Silk Red vs. Silk Blue, and pushing the levels into the output via the Trim control.
We highly recommend listening on high-quality headphones or studio monitors.
It's worth noting that to REALLY understand the benefits of analog summing, we encourage you to demo a 5057 Orbit in your own setup. The differences in workflow, gain staging, and balancing a final mix when you're summing through a mixer like the Orbit can make a huge difference to your mix's overall level, width, and tonality, and a single video could never do it justice - so call your local RND dealer and try one yourself!
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[@Ronniebj81]

The Orbit is always in my mix chain! Best buy in a very long time

[@mickeysol2107]

I purchased my Orbit, I didn't realize there was a learning curve in setting it up with my Apollo x8 and running it through pro tools. Any advice?

[@MELOPSMUSIC]

@@mickeysol2107 Hi, I also purchased an Orbit recently, and well i didn t notice a clear improvement in sound, in depth, ...perhaps i m missing something ? I was hesitating buying a less expensive one, because the aim was to insert hardware before an after; but well i was wondering if like they say you can have "the sound" of console. Nothing special to my hears. Could tell me your feeling, if you use it and how ? Thx a lot.

[@mickeysol2107]

I haven't been able to use it at all. I'm new to the analog world, I come from the digital world, using plugins. So i'm tryna to get some guidance in how to properly connect and route the analog gear. @@MELOPSMUSIC

[@savanaviolenta]

Definitely getting this one,MBP,MBC and 2 Shelford channels.

[@tytansoundlab]

I love the 5057. I have a Burl B32 also. But since I got Orbit the 32 is collecting dust.

[@shevyjohn9308]

Man I got the b32 I do mainly electronic music I'm thinking about switching to the orbit what you think ?

[@tytansoundlab]

@@shevyjohn9308 B32 gone 5057 stayed 😂

[@shevyjohn9308]

@@tytansoundlab hows the bass mids and high when compared

[@tytansoundlab]

@@shevyjohn9308 the 5057 is better to me plus the silk red/blue you can dial in flavor vs the B32. Your basically to locked in to that sound

[@tytansoundlab]

@@Charles13Xsaid me. 🤷🏾‍♂️ And Orbit still here😎

[@johnjhonny646]

People who don't hear the difference always talk about gain matching. It's really ignorant.

[@theredfaceofficial]

This is exactly my point in my comment. It’s always those ITB guys who don’t want to invest, they get sucked into level matching and null tests etc etc. The bottom line is, any audio going through Op Amps, Transformers, Tubes, etc, will get level bumps due to extra harmonics being added to the signal. If you take the level discrepancy out of the discussion, the box has a sound and it’s a very very nice sound indeed. Tonally it’s beautiful.

[@johnjhonny646]

@@theredfaceofficial They are mistaken for the same volume when the peak levels match. That sounds downright dumb. They have no knowledge of dynamics

[@masterastakhovsound]

Yes ! It’s work ❤

[@theredfaceofficial]

The tonal difference is massive, and the Orbit makes it ‘sound like a record’….end of. There’s glue, width and that beautiful transformer haze and sheen. I don’t see the obsession with level matching. If you can’t hear those transformers, I have nothing to say. Listen to those lower mids thicken up, it’s got nothing to do with levels. If analog adds volume, I would take it and utilize it into my overall gain structure, with less compression and limiting required. The orbit makes weak snares sound so much thicker, adds vibrancy to Instruments and vocals, and the bass end becomes more prominent with Blue silk. There’s a sense of more liveliness going through the summing.

[@palitoonthebeat]

I Have it for one and a half year now, and i really love this box. But one thing I'm not sure about till this day is, if the trim is just an output attenuator or if it influences the saturation by hiiting the 2bus more/less. Here in the video it was turned up for the "pushed" version but I really need to know this now. Till now I cranked up the DAC's to push it harder. Speaking of them, which output level (per channel) would you recommend? Thanks

[@jamesrobinson3rdCoast]

It's more of an output trim, leaving the unit and hitting your interface A/D returns.. that way you don't clip your preamps while pushing your stems INTO the Orbit from your DAW busses.

[@NRVE8]

nice trick with making the signal louder after passing through the orbit to trick people into thinking it sounds better.... summing mixers dont have me sold...

[@teolandon225]

Everyone talking about the level matching, and that's fine, you can just rip the video and adjust the levels yourself, then do the test. The real problem is this is a KZbin video. Give us a wav file!

[@magick1969]

Exactly. KZbin videos are garbage to discern the quality. I know the difference is much greater than what this is showing and Rupert should just link to the different source files to let the audience listen, preferred in 24 bit/48kHz final bounce or 24 bit/96kHz audio. Once I put a RPN MBC after my Avalon in my U87ai chain before going into my Apogee Digital Ensemble it became clear to me that both the Neumann and the Avalon were being wasted w/o such hardware to convert their analog to high end 96kHz digital audio. Bounce my vocals down to 48kHz and it just night and day. Adding the Orbit for Summing very shortly.

[@yorfavmike]

Do you need a AD/DA converter as well as an audio interface if you're working in the box?

[@vigneshkarthikeyan8174]

You do

[@wyrlismike]

is the silk applied at the bus or to individual channels?

[@kevinbatchelor9566]

Sound characteristics are definitely improved by the summing box here. How much louder is it when pushed?

[@glitchunicorn]

looks like as soon as it goes through the Orbit its at least 3 dB louder and it when its pushed its about 6 dB louder.

[@kevinbatchelor9566]

@@glitchunicorn thanks for that. Hard to really get a sense of what’s what with that level difference.

[@aidanknight]

@@kevinbatchelor9566 Yeah we definitely need a level matched demo here.

[@serenjacob]

i need the name of this song it’s so good

[@Rareos]

Another product demo with no level matching whatsoever.

[@dumdubbs2427]

That's what I was gonna say too, the original sample is quieter hahha

[@BlackthorneSoundandCinema]

That's the case almost every time with marketing material.

[@entity9588]

The Original and No Silk are actually level matched though. They are hitting around the same on peak, rms, and lufs and sound about the same in volume to me. The Orbit definitely sounds better

[@NURREDIN]

WHY Doesn't anyone make a summing mixer that accepts 1/4 inch instrument inputs? I have to buy adapters for my keyboards and electronic instruments to use one.

[@stewartgc09]

Intention of a summing mixer is to take input from a digital interface generally. I guess you basically just want a line mixer?

[@NURREDIN]

@@stewartgc09 How many digital interfaces come with 16-24 inputs and DB25 outputs?

[@magoostus]

Midas MR18

[@no.mids.brando6458]

@@NURREDINJust get a DB25 to balanced adapter man

[@ndavies8]

Color, cut, clarity

[@MyonMuzik]

come on guys... No level match? lol this is a joke

[@mashoy78]

Cheap tricks....There is no fair comparison without matched levels.

[@johnbeckett8367]

Hello Dear Rupert Neve Designs Development Team. Please make something like the Elektron ANALOG HEAT mk ii with your fantastic Neve Sound and build quality.