$55K Shootout: Jeep Gladiator Rubicon or Ram Rebel!

[@schneelutz]

The dog is a great feature to the show please keep him in :D

[@stevejones5999]

Blaze is a Star, I hope he has joined the Screen Actors Guild:)

[@stevesmith2770]

"The cool thing about the E-torque is that it does absolutely nothing at all." 😃😃 Thanks for being honest, Tommy!!

[@mikefoehr235]

Why is it there if it does nothing...only FCA I guess.

[@bendino9016]

@@mikefoehr235 i promise you, etorque will total all these trucks in 10-15 years lol.

[@jghall00]

They did an interview with one of the engineers and he explained the benefits. The biggest thing to me was smoothing out engine stop/start.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@jghall00 start stop sucks, you just turn it off.

[@jghall00]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 I like tech, especially when it works.

[@offroadhub.official]

The Rebel is a vastly "nicer" truck to daily drive. If you've driven both, that's obvious. The Gladiator is more off road worthy, but not many people are going to go far enough off road to need more than the Rebel.

[@knutkverneland9786]

Adding a $55k power wagon would have made this even more interesting

[@edkruzel]

Own both, prefer my rebel on the highway, but have been much deeper in the mud with our gladiator.

[@Kevin-sr8yx]

+1 for doing this video in one continuous shot.

[@ViniciusLBueno]

Nobody will change my opinion: Ram has the best trucks

[@jonathandowney7291]

Build to serve!

[@Ww8.3]

You can go thru 10 Rams in the lifetime of 1 Tundra

[@motorcyclemichael2182]

I’m waiting to see how Toyota improves the Tundra before I pull the trigger on a $55k truck

[@Ww8.3]

@@motorcyclemichael2182 me too. I’m hoping for something fresh like what they have done with the Rav4 prime. A Tundra Prime with 500hp and 800tq would hit a sweet spot in the market while being fuel efficient

[@lifeoutdoors3953]

@@Ww8.3 tundra is butt ugly but I agree

[@brayoungful]

Guys, let's talk eTorque. 1. Download an accelerometer app on your cell phone (e.g., Sensor Sense) 2. Find a smooth stretch of road. 3. Get two RAMs with identical power trains side-by-side, one with eTorque and one without, and drive them down that road while recording the acceleration on your phone. Make sure you place the phone at the same spot in each truck so it's an apples-to-apples comparison. 4. Objectively compare the accelerations from each gear shift between the eTorque and non-eTorque transmissions.

[@davidtaylor5811]

What would it tell you?

[@epicgaming8451]

E torque has very slightly better gas economy on acceleration, cuz the engine needs to work less to get the same amount of acceleration

[@davidhillbrand2302]

You can option a 2500 Tradesman with the Power Wagon Package along with a few other options and stay under $55K MSRP. This is just one more choice available - each of the the trucks has Pro's and Cons. Maybe FCA should offer a Blender option instead of the E Torque that does nothing!

[@fmrscout33]

to get a Tradesman to the level of a rebel, you're looking at a shit-ton of upgrades. A shit-ton.

[@paulogar84]

I like the parking lot review but would be much nicer to have an actual off-road test to see which one is more capable. Thanks for the videos! Love your perspectives.

[@stumptownwoodworks]

If you off-road for real 3 weekend a month over 5+ months...jeep. if you commute, haul anything for diy or home use, and want to overland and camp like most actually do without any 'hardcore' off road...the Ram, or any 1500 size truck. My F150 was 33k out the door, missing a lot of bells and whistles like heated seats, but the STX had almost everything I actually needed, very suited for what we needed.

[@nategleaves]

Where’s the Power Wagon? It’s the same price too!

[@MrMottentanz]

"You're carrying a dog..." Haha, awesome video guys, truely awesome... Edit: just finished the whole thing and what came to my mind... I've been watching your guys' videos since the reveal of the Gladiator two years ago and ever since then I've been eagerly awaited the release of the vehicle in Germany. It's awesome though to be able to watch your videos on a daily basis and the fact that Tommy has gone the whole nine yards on his way to adulthood in the meantime just made the ridiculously long waiting time apparent to me. Keep up the great work, guys!

[@mcwendel8066]

Wow you mean to tell me a full size truck has a bigger interior, bed and can tow more?? No way! I had a 17 Power Wagon and i loved it but for what my needs are i like my gladiator more overall. And it’s crazy that with 37s on my gladiator i get around 16.8mpgs compared to in the 11s with 35s on the Ram

[@Menabotros20]

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[@fmrscout33]

11 with the ram??? Were you constantly putting your foot in it? I do dramatically better than that on fuel consumption.

[@mcwendel8066]

@@fmrscout33 what year is your power wagon? Do you have 35s? My current commute is 13 miles on country backroads with very few stops and I’m averaging 19mpg.

[@chris1293]

I just got back from a road trip from California to Telluride, Co. i sacrificed on road driveability for off road capability by taking the Wrangler JKUR over my Rebel. Taking the Wrangler actually worked out really well and now might consider selling both for a Gladiator.

[@jalmonte91]

It’s great to see how far Tommy has come, he looks so comfortable now in front of the camera

[@MrBillsfishin]

Tough call on picking one of those two. The Ram has so much more room and towing capability but the Jeep is so much better offroad. Ok neither. Keep building my 1973 Chevy K20. Lol

[@shockracer]

Ram does come with a bed extender if you get rambox, there is a divider the unfolds to a u shape that incorporates the tailgate for bed size.

[@the_jarmel]

2:20 am cali time .. that's TFL love 🥰

[@abqcrutch]

Andre, in the mid 90s, I briefly worked at a Lincoln/Merc dealership as a service writer. ALL of the techs in the back called them, BLISSTEN shocks, lol.

[@thealphaomega1]

If you can’t Jeep it, Ram it!

[@SeanOzz]

I just bought a 2024 rebel and they told me it towed 12000 but after I bought it going through all the paper work it can only tow 7200. It’s the air shock version. I traded in my Mojave gladiator for it that can only tow 4500. I thought I was grabbing the model with front and top 360 camera but I didn’t. How hard is it to add those extra cameras ?

[@turbojunki]

How about the tow rating on the 6spd manual Gladiator?

[@Intentsrig]

I’m seriously skeptical about the etorque system. Is it reliable? I hate the idea of the 48v system combined with the 12v battery. It just seems so unnecessary. Just another system to go wrong and expensive to replace down the road. Sucks all 2021 AT JL’s have it with the 3.6.

[@jcmjcm2412]

I used to have a Ram until I bought my gladiator. When you buy a jeep, you are buying an adventure. I can’t wait for the weekends to come around just so I can go up the mountains and explore.

[@MarkRVillano]

I think that the Rebel offers a lot more for the money, and is the more complete, utilitarian package. When it comes down to everyday comfort & drivability, payload & towing capacity, and power, unless you're planning on spending most of your time trying to crawl up to the top of El Capitan, I can't see purchasing a Gladiator, especially if it was going to be your sole mode of transportation.

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

Great comparison you guys"!!and they have decent news I found another Chevrolet Astro van all-wheel drive then I am going to convert and turn back into my beast mobile, I'm going to switch everything over from my older van if I can get to it before it gets towed so pray for us on keeping up with the wofford's on Facebook

[@WW-wf8tu]

Rebel for everything except extreme off road. Tommy, Blaze curls and Blaze press and you will be able to keep picking him up as he grows. :)

[@adampeterson8359]

I have e-torque on my 2020 Rebel. It doesn’t bother me one bit. Saves fuel at stop lights and keeps the engine hours low.

[@oscarvargas691]

Can’t compare these 2 because they are too different. I got the gladiator rubicon and couldn’t be any happier.

[@kylem3987]

Honestly, I like the look of the TRX grill better than the Rebel grill. The "mustache" staying below the RAM badge looks a lot better than swooping above the badge. It would be nice if they modify the Rebel grill as such.

[@krazyk57]

And ... Don’t forget... You get to get out of Jeep every couple miles to clean the windshield when it snows... Thanks to its terrible defrost system...😳😳😳... Thanks to Tommy and his Pop for pointing that out...👍... I’m with Andre...You seem to get a whole lot more with the Rebel ...🤙🤙🤙

[@weirdshibainu]

I'd buy the Rebel for my daily driving and occasional light off road. I'd buy a 3 year old gladiator for more adventurous off roading/camping and wouldn't mind if it picked up scratches or dents. The gladiator is too crude to drive everyday and the Rebel is too nice to beat in the hills.

[@MrChrissercamaro]

You should strap on a Magnuson supercharger on the gladiator. And tell us how much better it is. Review.

[@theejoeylee]

YES

[@terrencejones9817]

Haha good on Tommy for calling the the Etorque , as being nothing but a start stop system. That I'll ad is going to he insanely expensive to fix. Better hope that belt never Flys off too.

[@jonathanalea]

I saw a 4WD Auto button on the Rebel... did they change the transfer case? This didn’t used to be on the Rebel.

[@daviddowling9830]

Significance of the 7 slot grille? I know just curious if these Jeep guys know.

[@daviddowling9830]

@@Zachy93 give the man a cigar 👍

[@rodneyward8357]

My daughter has a ram with pentastar. My brother has a hemi. 19 and 19. 1\4 mile pentastar rules in Oklahoma. Watched it 3 times. I now have a 2021 JL sport s unlimited Aisin 6 speed manual.

[@brandonlaswiss1037]

Good Test I wonder what a full test would be like with both of them but both wit 3.0 Ecodiesel in a towing test off road MPG test some motor one midsize one full size

[@craigchadwick2504]

On the 2021 Rebel you can in fact get the surround view camera system. It’s part of the advanced safety group.

[@tmajek]

Have had a 1500 EcoDiesel ram1500 slt, now have 21 gladiator Rubicon diesel.. and I LOVE it I truly do... But going back to a 22 ram rebel diesel - with 2 kids, a 6000lb trailer and long highway drives, as much as I'm an enthusiast the rebel does 95% of the offroad I will reasonably do and is far far far better at towing and on long highway drives.

[@GP9railfan]

Six one, half dozen the other. Each has its pros and cons.

[@mblake0420]

Ram has a mini van shifter, i didn't buy it bc of it. Give me a lever on the column or on the center console.

[@bobkat-john1468]

My 2 favorite trucks! I would take both & be thrilled. I have owned several Jeep’s & Rams. I just purchased a 2022 Gladiator. Great video.

[@4fastdrs]

15,000 miles on the clock of my 2019 ram 1500 Limited. I got it as fully loaded as I could possibly find for the time $72000 MSRP. I can Unequivocally say.... the Etorque system does not benefit the truck in any conceivable way. It doesn't get better gas mileage I average 15 mpg, ( I did replace the stock tires www.customwheeloffset.com/wheel-offset-gallery/911106/2019-ram-1500-xd-badlands-stock ) It isn't any faster. Do not buy etorque, if you're going to get a ram 1500 hemi.

[@rossgreenzweig]

I had the same problem with my 2020 Ram Rebel couldn't do better that 15mpg highway! ...traded it for a Trail Boss LT and its awesome, also 23.4 mpg best with it.

[@4fastdrs]

@@MeliorIlle lol, lucky for you I've got plenty of money. But thanks for your concern.

[@4fastdrs]

@@rossgreenzweig 👌 nice, I find the Ram to be a more complete package for what I do. I like the look of the trail boss, but My truck has to be a little more on the professional side for realestate. I definitely thought long and hard about getting one that was blacked out and throwing 35"s and a lift kit on it. But that would be more play than work. Which is definitely not the case for me. I do however have plans on getting a 2021 escalate which will free the truck up for more fun stuff.

[@4fastdrs]

@@MeliorIlle 😆, Sure that's me the idiot who can afford to waste $72,000... According to you, The rogue genius whom spends his time doling out unsolicited financial advice in the comment section of KZbin. Well thanks for clearing up who's the idiot and who's the genius. Really don't know what I would have done without you!

[@4fastdrs]

@@MeliorIlle You're 100% correct; If, I had wasted $72k, I would be an idiot... I would also be a gigantic mental pygmy! If I wasted my time trying to manage someone else's finances through the comment section on KZbin. 😉

[@mvarner46540]

Ordered my 2020 Rebel and hand-picked the build and options, 4WD-Auto wasn't an option. Is this a 2021?

[@poppyneese1811]

Absolutely love the Gladiator, but would without a question buy the Rebel!!!

[@Offshore1977]

Love the fact the Gladiator looks like the Wrangler. Wish they called it scrambler and put the roll bar in the bed and wooden side bars.

[@krashnpa]

Both nice trucks. I couldn't decide between the two, so bought both. The Rebel is definitely the dog hauler. 🐕

[@edkruzel]

Another Ed, bought both as well.

[@mdragon99]

You gotta train him to "Back Seat Test" on command. I was about to correct myself, but it applies to Blaze as well.

[@tyhub7455]

I lost it when Tommy got stuck in the back seat😂😂

[@kennethmetzger4944]

Is it safe to power wash a engine?

[@amolinari9]

The reason I still have my 06 ram 1500 is because it has the 6 speed manual! I’m turning it into a rebel or half ton PW (it’s a long and expensive process but I’m making it happen).

[@bobvedder2451]

I am thinking of doing a muffler delete, leaving the resonator on though.

[@shawnpierce9748]

Have a question, with all the videos that yall put out, and are all great btw. Haven't heard mention the troubles with the Check engine light, or codes or the start stop system that seems like EVERYONE is having issues with. Are yall not allowed to tell the negative real world stuff for fear if losing sponsorship?

[@zachtaylor5638]

I had a 2019 wrangler sahara with all the options, no problems. I currently have a 2021 Rebel, that i've owned for a little more than a year. Also zero issues. The wrangler was a 2.0 turbo and the rebel is the 5.7. I also have friends with Jls and no issues reported. So "Almost everyone" is a tad steep

[@bacawaka2813]

Me and the wife both looked at the Ram Rebel and the Gladiator. We both went for the Rebel. I mean comfort, the 12 inch screen, and off-road capabilities are good enough for the outdoor, camping, hiking light wheeling, stuff we do.

[@jjames2162]

I walked in to buy a Rubi Gladiator and bought a loaded Laramie with off road group and never looked back. Ten times the truck outside of going to Moab

[@LaylaGW]

The Rebel is the clear winner. It has a working windshield defrost function.

[@resistthesystem6145]

I recently struggled with the same decision... Ram vs. Wrangler. I ended up with a Mojave Gladiator with 6 speed manual and cloth top. I landed a killer deal on the Mojave and couldn’t pass it up!

[@javilink7]

What kind of deal did you get?

[@darthbane2669]

Ram all the way, but not paying 55k for either. I dont go off roading and if I did, I feel I'd likely get the zr2 colorado for pricing and comfort.

[@donpedritomarin7901]

For 55000 I would choose the rebel, but I already did in 2017 because of this channel

[@wushock92]

Rebel, hands down. More capable, more practical, more power and more efficient. The Ram I rented this summer averaged over 22 mpg over 3500 miles. Granted, it was a Big Horn and not a Rebel, but that 5.7 Hemi a beast.

[@jrlbegay]

Gladiator for me, I'd rip out the back seats and throw it in the garage for extra gear.

[@badgerpa9]

Keep carrying him everyday Tommy and you will get stronger, since the rebel will defrost the windshield I would go that way.

[@philtripe]

How would we know what the E torque system will do when you guys have never done a city mpg test with one... compare it to the Jeep since they are similar

[@joshcatt4485]

Seems like apples to oranges to me. Mid-size vs Full size.

[@JoseAlvarez-kb2io]

This is great good job ! You should do this more often because we want to know what we get for our money when deciding what to buy. Thanks

[@JeffHenshaw]

Came for the trucks. Stayed for the dog.

[@HeathStallcup]

My question is, what breed is Blaze? I've seen them before but never found out. Also, consider comparing the Gladiator to the Power Wagon. At least in my area I can find them both for about the same money.

[@TFLoffroad]

Bernese Mountain Dog

[@jonathandowney7291]

I own a 19 Rebel and I love it! 5.7 Hemi of course. The inside of the truck I love. That big screen is a must!! I Have the red interior as well. Just an amazing truck!! Love it on the snow,mud,sand,rain. Love the Rebel. Just keep in mind MPG haha sucks lol.

[@downsf]

Thinking of buying the 19 myself. It holds it's own off road?? How many miles do you have on it?

[@jonathandowney7291]

@@downsf I believe the new year like a 20/21 Rebel have an option now to drive awd. So mine have 2wd, 4 high and 4 low. But anyways.. yes love my 19 Rebel just came back back from the snow no probs. Still get lot head turns ppl love the truck. Have about 15k miles.

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

I have a rebel but debating on trading it for a gladiator with a manual. I love manual vehicles

[@johnhallmarkiii5585]

I have an honest to God question that isn’t sarcastic - especially as a former hemi owner: do the lifters still go out about 50k miles?

[@motorcyclemichael2182]

REBEL for me 😁 4 Towing n hauling.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Ask Roman how the front driveshaft works in the Ram Rebel...

[@bradpittiful7288]

55k keeps me from buying...well 20k keeps me from buying...tough being poor! haha

[@irishuwould5185]

I was wondering why a V6 truck is 55k? I couldn’t justify paying that much for a Chrysler V6

[@MrPAULONEAL]

Just wait until they hit the used market...

[@kiduse4458]

the lc500 in the back looking good

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Says no one ever about any Japanese vehicle made in the last decade

[@HarryKuloh]

@@Welcometofacsistube incorrect. 2018-20 accord sport.

[@rodneyward8357]

Ford ran a ranger ad before the video. Not your fault. Touting it it a 10 speed juice box. Maybe they need to get of their band wagon and admit Jeep has a manual still available

[@ryxsondixon915]

Cool video. Even before I saw this video I went to Chrysler to buy a rebel and left with a gladiator for various reasons.

[@s_alobaid_]

Story time

[@rickyloganjr.2362]

Absolutely never a dull moment with Tommy❤️🙂. College in the 1980s reference and reaction to the hand brake in the Gobeglad 😂.

[@JonBecker81]

This is what happens when Tommy, Andre and Alex are bored and don’t have anything to do so they decide to just go talk about the 2 trucks in the parking lot. I like the less scripted videos.

[@carlosmoreno45]

What’s the ground clearance on the rebel?

[@jakeesayian2687]

How about a drag race etorque vs no etorque?

[@MarkPdot]

I would choose....to keep my current truck. $55k to replace my current truck is just not an option. It has over 436k miles and it's paid off. It tows, hauls and can do any off roading that I care to do. Would it be nice to have brand new again...yes. I'll just keep mine until it dies completely.

[@lukechernesky]

what happened to tommy’s 2door JK?!?

[@sdlager22]

I like to go where others can’t so Gladiator is my choice

[@mikefoehr235]

Just dont drive it when it snows....the defroster is next to useless.

[@ckddckdd]

You can get pretty deep out there in a Rebel too

[@bretz71]

Jeep Gladiator MOAB is the best. Dang near as capable as the Rubicon in rock crawling, and way more comfortable overlanding and desert running at faster speeds.

[@itsshadowuser9536]

2022 eco diesel rebel or 22 Mojave gladiator someone help

[@09blackcobaltss]

Great Video i like the Rebel more than the Jeep by mostly everything unless your doing mostly off road, Rebel will always be the better choice. Also Tommy needs to hit the gym for that upper body strength gain. Id also wait a year or two and wait till the depreciation hit and buy the Rebel for 30ish.

[@tsslaporte]

MSRP 55k, sell price 45k, 2 year "used" sell price 42k :D

[@kidamere2408]

yeah trucks are holding value much more so then they did will be awhile for that price

[@tsslaporte]

@@kidamere2408 especially with covid prices, a bunch of 19 rebels will be coming off lease in 2021 so the price might come down but who knows.

[@BYLRPhil]

For a little over $45k you can get a Ram 2500 Tradesman. That’s got my interest...

[@Austin152-S]

I wish this was comparing the diesel version of both vehi8cels!

[@rodneyward8357]

Had a 12 sport s manual. Both pentasars run. Some of us finance these machines.and they work real world much better than your tests show. I have a travel trailer. I don't tow it with my wife's jeep I tow it with my 05 gmc k3500 regular cab 6.0 nv4500.

[@burkefox3208]

Have you guys ever thought about doing a bare bones truck review ? like who make the best every mans truck. Take the stock F150 vs Silverado and so forth and see who makes a cheap good truck

[@mikeh2772]

How does that Gladiator handle at 90 MPH with the roof top tent? :)

[@collingodbey3737]

The blaze cameo was awesome! If I was gonna buy a gladiator I would be in the 1 percent opting to row my own.

[@Tully3674]

Sheesh! The only thing ya'll haven't shown/discussed about these two vehicles the past many months is how to cook an egg on the engine block.

[@StraightOtohGunga]

I wanted to see a driving off-road comparison

[@OutdoorCO75]

'21 Rebels do offer front facing camera with off-road pages

[@eddyneedsahobby]

Both great, prefer the rebel if I could only have one vehicle

[@joshkiej6601]

i rarely like video's, but blaze is the best host i've ever seen

[@paulgalli6433]

I own a 2020 Jeep Sport Wrangler 6Speed 3.6L and a RAM 1500 5.7L V8 Hemi for my company work truck and RAM is a drunk Pig on gas in town city driving. Highway is better, probably 19MPG. One of my workers has the Rebal Edition and same complaint on MPG city daily driver.

[@RCWildvideos]

That is what you get with a V8. I best friend has a 5.7 Tundra. It gets about 14mpg average.