8 Cores & 32 GB of RAM? - You DON'T Need Them!

[@bluexeyedxpassion]

This is the reason why I upgraded from a i5 4th gen 16gb ddr3 with a 1030, trying to play gtav with discord up had constant stuttering. I now play on a i7 9th gen with 32gb ddr4 and a 2060 and It never felt better.

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

9th gen I7s are the last decent cpu from intel

[@intelceleroncpuinside9120]

@@raymondhachmishvili2483 Why?

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

@@intelceleroncpuinside9120 good temps,easy to cool, 212 hyper will be enough for 9700F/9900 non k, great gaming performance with Z370MB,good power consumption ( for intel) 11th gains 10% in performance with 50% increase in power draw

[@intelceleroncpuinside9120]

@@raymondhachmishvili2483 Power Consumption isnt everything. The lack of HT will probably last this CPU not for long.

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

@@intelceleroncpuinside9120 9900 has HT

[@barnesnplebian6462]

Yeah but nothing beats the feeling of opening up my task manager and looking at my 16 cores and 64 gb ram not doing anything

[@rdj0981]

Coming from an i5 6600k to a 3900x, I can confirm 😊😊

[@jonashediger182]

@@rdj0981 you cant confirm you don't have 16 cores ;)

[@rdj0981]

@@jonashediger182 I can*almost confirm 😊😊😊

[@samael1981]

[@schubidubap]

Call me a psycho... I sometimes have task manager and HWinfo on my 2nd screen, just to take a peak from time to time and enjoy the sight uf 24 Threads (3900X). As a tech freak, that gives me sooo much enjoyment.

[@andrewtyree9859]

The moment you mentioned, Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB of RAM, and an RX580, playing at 1080p on one monitor, I was laughing so hard. Cause that’s exactly what I have. It runs fine. I don’t do AAA games, I just play casual games and arcade games. This rig will last me for some time.

[@riddif]

THIS, except i have GTX1660S. Even play AAA fine, on Medium-High settings. But mostly with you, i'm not that into AAA games.

[@ThatKoukiZ31]

I have an rx580 in a decade old case but with a new 3800x and 16gb on a basic x570 that I got open box. I built it last year and was waiting for new video cards "coming soon". Now I'm on a budget and cards are not available. I play doom Eternal at 100-150fps and can CAD and multi task just fine. Its great! Id like a more balanced system but I don't need anything more than another stack of ram and more storage.

[@manuelmunguia616]

i do have similar specs, but i have r7 2700, gtx 1060 6gb and 16 gb ram using a 9 years old 1080p 60 hz monitor, i actually wonder if by 8 cores they mean something like r7 1700 is good enough

[@riddif]

@@manuelmunguia616 not the first gen i think. Ryzen+ and up. First gen is always a trial error product. So yours is good. But you should upgrade your gpu and monitor.

[@zanechristiansen]

I had exactly that im in the process of upgrading tho I have a 5800x on a x570 board now, still with rx580 lol

[@suhdud4646]

I just went from a i7 4790k 16 gig ram to a ryzen 7 5800x and vengeance Pro 32gig 3600. Its a need once you experience it.

[@mikeymaiku]

Lol 3770 non k to i9 10850k. Felt good lol

[@TheAcadianGuy]

I went from 4790k to 10900k as AMD wasn't available at the time. I have 32gb of 3200mhz ram. My system is butter smooth.

[@maziio646]

6 cores and 16 gb ram is the sweet spot for me , i just want to play minesweeper and some pinball machines

[@justinreschke3642]

Not me, I need 8 cores because I play solitaire in 8k@240hz

[@sahilrawat421]

@Fizzi 88 lol first ask him about 8k 240hz monitor

[@jonashediger182]

If this is true than 4core 4Th all dah every day

[@jonashediger182]

@Fizzi 88 more like what monitor? 😂

[@justinreschke3642]

@Fizzi 88 2 overclocked rtx 3090s in SLI mode with LN2. The new RTX lighting and reflections really make those cards pop. Solitaire just isn't playable with anything less.

[@FatalCharade]

Tech is telling the 100% honest to god's truth. I ran AC Valhalla and Cyberpunk 2077 on a Ryzen 5 2600X and a RX470 and those games ran like ass even on low settings. switched out the RX 470 for a RX 6800 and it ran like a dream even at 1440p (despite the cpu bottlenecking.)

[@heatfan785]

Think the Thumbnail is missing the word need? 👀

[@shlomomolokandov7270]

Oh, i was wondering, like what??

[@Forseti008]

It was supposed to draw your attention. ^^

[@heatfan785]

@@Forseti008 aha! Then mission accomplished :p

[@kingofthenerds4708]

literally only opened this to post this

[@xW3rder]

Just upgraded to 32gb and 8 cores, gonna enjoy that setup for a longer time with just a gpu upgrade in the way ;)

[@wayland7150]

Have you noticed that CPU upgrade feels like a GPU upgrade?

[@Ziggy405]

"For those of you with a 2600 16gb ram and a rx 580." How does he know my system like that. 🤣

[@tutata]

He's a pc doc, and docs know pain.

[@KinzQuest]

4 months ago I went from 2600/RX570/16gb to 3800xt/2060S/32gb. Much smoother experiance, but it was a decent amount more money. Still worth it.

[@DeTixXs]

Same specs but with a 1650 super v:

[@tevildo9383]

Same specs. And I play at 1080p as well, ultrawide though (2560x1080). I can play most games at high detail, but I also don’t play a lot of AAA games. The newest AAA game I own is BFV, and the newest game in general I own is Bannerlord. But a lot of my favorite games are older (Halo 3, Skyrim, Dark Souls trilogy, BF4). I plan on upgrading my pc this year to play new games and hopefully future proof it for the next few years. I’m looking at getting a 4K-60hz monitor to use for games where I care more about graphics than performance and keep the 1080p 200hz for the opposite situation. And then I’ll probably get an RX 6800 with either a 5800x or 5900x depending on what prices are like in couple months.

[@mihapeterca7940]

Had that .... Then upgraded the ram to 32 and gpu to Rx5700 and flashed the gpu to.XT And went from single monitor of 1080p to two monitors each 1440p/60hz 😅 When i had that earlier combo i used to play games ....but when i got these newer components ... i really dont .. lulz But still wish to replace that 2600 with 5800 or something 😅

[@hoffyc.h393]

I was gonna upgrade next paycheck to 32gb Ram, and do it as safe as possible, buy the exact same kit but 2x16gb and just swop them at 3600mhz speeed. But this night some idiots had smash a few cars back windows and tried to find something to steal, and ofc my got smashed, so instead of new Ram my money must go to pay for a new window instead!! Sweden starting to be the Paradise for Criminals, this shit happends everyday around the Country or they straight up burn the cars!

[@Snafu2346]

Wait.... I was expecting for you to say. "Like always. IT DEPEEEEEEENDS!"

[@YTSZAZU]

That might be a good tech T-shirt logo merchandise.

[@morganbruno3252]

My 12 core 64 gb ram is so overkill that I can’t tell the difference from 8 core 32 gb. The point is to grow into it over the years which Tech has shown numerous times is cheaper than upgrading frequently.

[@ballin1234]

How is it cheaper? You're still spending money unless you work from home

[@morganbruno3252]

@@ballin1234 tech deals discusses total cost of ownership in a few videos, it’s worth watching for a detailed explanation on it but I agree with the mentality. There’s more to cost than the upfront payment.

[@wayland7150]

I like to chop and change all the time which AM4 is excellent for. However if I'm going to stick with a config then I make it decent. There is a difference in feel from a RYZEN 5800X to a RYZEN 5900X. However there is no difference between 32GB and 64GB unless you are running something that specifically wants the RAM like large VMs. Typically a PC runs fine with 16GB RAM even though it would make use of a bit more, say 24GB (which you don't want to do). 32GB it runs perfect and 64GB is only half used.

[@sujimayne]

More and more games are starting to use over 10GB RAM because they can. OS itself can use over 4GB RAM, then add background proccesses to that and 16GB is already just barely enough. In a few years 16GB will be the 'budget' option and the sweetspot will be 32GB. If you're building a PC today might as well spend a little extra on 32GB of RAM.

[@fruitenantcolonel9207]

Can we have a live comparison of 6 vs 8 cores(3600 vs 3700x vs 5600x maybe?) and explain the experience as you did with the SSD comparison on Techdeals? Arguably my favourite video that was!

[@3ericw]

You'd be hard pressed to feel the difference other than how long certain productivity apps take to render. Maybe unzipping files too. All of these just feel like how long you take to wait on the load so a benchmark graph does pretty much the same thing. I recommend gamersnexus cpu reviews for these benchmarks

[@wayland7150]

Contra to what Eric said you'd be hard pushed to benchmark the difference between a 6 core 5600X and an 8 core 5700X but you'd be able to feel it. Much smoother.

[@ArthurM1863]

I went from 4c8t to 8c16t and the difference was night and day. I dont do much multitasking, and in Windows it didnt fell a whole lot different, but in games it did. Cyberpunk went from a stutter fest when driving to a smooth 60+ fps delight.

[@joe_ferreira]

I am sure there were ipc and clock improvements also.

[@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep]

The biggest bottleneck on your PC isn't your number of cores, your whatever Videocard, how much RAM you have. The biggest bottleneck is your eyes. Can you SEE 32 GB of RAM? no Can you see more than 4 cores? Nope Can you even see more than 24fps? Most can't, not even DevduttChode can. What you really need is a Table. 24GB's of table at least.

[@DeadpoolPlayz]

Aw man recently upgraded to 12gb of table. I dont have any more table slots. I just wasted so much money

[@ms1595]

See .. no but feel, yes.

[@bradbeyers9028]

From a 10400 to 10700k the nicest thing is not worrying about having a tab open or programs running and gaming and forgetting u have stuff open or running.

[@batkinson001]

still running my ryzen 5 1600, could upgrade to a 3600 for around the price I paid for it in 2018, the 3700x is still $200 Canadian more even with the newer Ryzens out. 2 extra cores and 4 threads are not worth an extra $200 IMO.

[@mikeramos91]

Every cpu upgrade should be a bump in cores unless you upgrade often

[@MustafaAli-ri3bx]

My system has a 1600af that I got for 85$, waiting for the right opportunity to buy a 3900x or maybe wait for the 5900x. The problem is tho that the 5900x is pretty expensive meanwhile I can get a 3900x barely used for under half the price

[@CraigLillie]

Oh NOW you tell me, after I buy that R7 3700X & 32 gigs of GSkill Trident Z Neo. 😇

[@shashanksuman4755]

haha

[@Michael-xc2qr]

Don't worry bro you're good😁😁😁👍👍

[@aZryggs]

same bro i just bought it

[@kevinfromsales6842]

I have the same and I'm glad I have it lol

[@donatello956]

Same thing i have!! lol

[@SandWitch555]

why would you want to run cyberpunk? This is horrific example, everything we are getting for a decade is a half finished products and in game shop, possible even a slotmachine and if its still not enogh they will slap some advertisments in game which will never be finished, and we are not talking indie, these are fucking triple a games. Meanwhile there is no new consoles and gpus on the market. Fuck it, we can play super mario on a rasberry pi

[@cholohd32]

That would be sweet to hear about. Probably a lot of people currently "on hold" on upgrading but perhaps also cant really tell if the "need" is strong enough to take the jump.

[@oskarimakila8085]

I'm in a lucky position at the moment because I have a 7600K along a 1070 at 1440p (after watching your recommendations back in the day) and at the moment I prefer games that are at LEAST 10 years old. I have no need to upgrade my hardware now because they aren't limiting my gaming experience. When I look at new gpus or cpus I always think about what I could do with them that I CURRENTLY couldn't and that should be a common tip for people when planning an upgrade. And now I'm thinking of waiting this gpu shortage out and jump straight to ddr5 platforms etc.

[@tristan2668]

Currently have an i5-4670k. Have my new i7-10700KF sitting in the box, just waiting on my RAM to upgrade my system. Can't wait!

[@rockytech3658]

That's one heck of an upgrade! How's it doing right now?

[@tristan2668]

@@rockytech3658 it's great! No games currently max it out. It's always my GPU sitting at 99% usage. Big open world games run a lot better and games with lots of ai as well.

[@rockytech3658]

@@tristan2668 Great!

[@John.Fielding]

Currently using a 3400g paired with an old GTX 1070 and 32GBs of RAM on an x570 motherboard. That 3400g was strictly meant to be a ~2 year placeholder, something good enough to get by on for a couple of years while waiting for Zen3 to come along as an optimal drop-in replacement. I haven't had a chance to do that upgrade just yet due to all of the ongoing stock shortages, but since I'm typically a bit behind the curve in trying to run the latest and greatest titles anyway the limitations of 4-core 8-thread Zen+ still haven't really held me back enough to make it a priority.

[@wayland7150]

Upgrade that CPU with practically any more modern or more core RYZEN and you will wonder why you waited so long.

[@gabrielrivera1246]

Between a 5600x, 3700x and 10700k cpu which one you would choose for gaming?

[@ryzenenjoyer2824]

Me personally? I7... but Not 10700k, but 10700kf. Why? Its cheaper, And its the same cpu but without integrated graphics, which you propably dont need.

[@gabrielrivera1246]

@@ryzenenjoyer2824 thank you!

[@konradadenauer9959]

@@ryzenenjoyer282410700K includes Intel Quick Sync, which the 10700Kf doesn’t have. Can be useful for livestreaming

[@Greez1337]

I snagged 32GB of Ram when I saw a 3200 Pair of 16GB for $130 CAD last year. That then led me to having 2 monitors...then snagging an 8 core. It was a self fulfilling prophecy.

[@Macanan1]

This year im upgrading from an AMD FX quad core 3100, 8gigs of ram running on windows 7 64bit I have been playing Battlefield 4 with this old PC, to the MSI MPG x570 gaming pro carbon with 64 gigs of DDR4 Corsair Dominator 4X16 3600 with a samsung 980 pro 1T Pcie 4.0 SSD card, and the AMD RyZen 9 3950X, I be using the EVGA GTX GeForce 1660 XC Black gaming GPU, can't wait till I get this thing built.

[@XpIut]

Hey just a question. Do i need to buy really mid to high end parts for 1080p high to ultra around 120+ fps for the next 5 years+.I come from console and i play newish to old games (2-5+ year old games) but i do give a shot on new triple A games (like new Assassin’s Creeds, MMOs, open world survival, new Halos, new BRoyales, etc). I do some content creation but nothing crazy, stream here and there. And i do have the tendency of having multiple tabs open. I just care about maintaining a smooth 1080p high to ultra experience throughout the years no matter if my frames drop overtime (but of course i don’t want it to drop too low to where it’s not enjoyable) Thank you u or anyone that can help me with my question.

[@plhilmar1]

I was using a core i7 6850k on an msi x99a raider with 16 gigs of ram. It ran fine, no comlaints, I picked up 64 gigs of ram as an upgrade, scored a 64 gig ddr4-3000 kit for 190. I was looking to get an i7 6950x at the time and didn't want to drop 800 for a used chip on ebay, than by dumb luck I scored a core i9 7940x for about 520 for an oem processor. I picked up an evga x299ftw k motherboard for 150, wound up getting a higher core count than what was looking at for cheaper. After stress testing, a delid, and another round of stress tests for about a week. I can totally understand tech deals points about user experience, with lots of ram and lots of cores. It is such a difference for my old build, it feels smoother and much more responsive. For my next upgrade in about 4-5 years, I'll probably grab another hedt part assuming those are still aaround. I cannot go back to using smaller core counts and small amounts of ram.

[@Markinpuff]

My Ryzen 2700x 16gb and 1080 ti seems to run just about anything I throw at it.

[@mqcapps]

Ahhh...yes...you shouldn't have to fight with the rig..32gb ram does make a difference, but you don't need to go to Sam's club in a starship when a Camry will do just fine.

[@Chrisspru]

me, having upgraded from a rx590/2700x/16gb ram to 2060s/3700x/32gb ram (for 425€ total), can totaly agree with the mindblow visualization. as can my father who basicly got my old parts as a gift (while buying a motherboard, storage and power supply) after his old gtx950/i5-650/12gb ram ddr3 computer finaly kicked the bucket (after a user error shorting the motherboard. his harddrive and decent soundcard thankfully survived unharmed). i still have to get him used to not having to close everything to start the browser and that he can have more than one tab open :'D

[@alexgottmituns7049]

Both my kids have i7-4790k (4 cores) paired with 2070 super cards @ 1080p ultra settings on their 27" 1080 165hz monitors. They don't miss a beat!

[@tongyinwang215]

When I run 2 simulators in Android Studio with my 7700HQ 4 cores, CPU usage reach 99% sometimes. But 10700K with 8 cores can run 4-5 simulators without any problem.

[@Heliocentric]

Whatever I play Cyberpunk at ultrawide 1440p on a GTX 1650 and I have no issues getting 40 FPS ... with 50% scaling and low settings.

[@joniqst]

Went from 2700x to 5600x and it's so much smoother in video games and got a decent boost in fps as well, even at 1440p. Even windows feels snappier with two less cores, faster cores though. Currently have 32 gb of ram, warzone for ex. used to freeze up on me when I had 16gb.

[@TheAvenger1171]

2:11 Graphical settings should be independent from the CPU because those settings are for rendering on the GPU. That means the higher the settings, the less likely the CPU will be the bottleneck.

[@2011jaydog]

had a quad core phenom i swapped to a ryzen 7 1700x and was tickled with the performance...that was 5 years ago or more and have since upgraded to a ryzen 7 2700x and have a 3800x rig too...2060super and a aorus 3070....i love em...32 gigs in both systems...built my son a r7 1700x 2060 system and my gf has a r7 2700 and 2060 system and bought my 1700x and 1070 system ...we love gaming!!

[@madmardigan3321]

Is it worthwhile upgrading my ASUS gaming laptop from 16GB to 32GB ram? Its a 6 core 12 thread RTX2070. I dont do a great deal of multitasking. The current ram in there is SK Hynix. Was thinking of getting Ballistix 3200MHz with 16 CL. Am I wasting my money?

[@alexalexalex89]

Benefit of a 5800X over 5600X with a 6900XT? Playing mostly in UWQHD- Just bought the 5600X over a month ago so upgrading is kind of costly atm. Would like to hear your suggestions 🙏

[@anthonysmith6413]

Latest game I played on 4C/8T 1440p before upgrading was AC Valhalla. I see people playing and enjoying it that way. But atleast for me it wasn't smooth enough. FPS were pretty allover the place but it was play and enjoyable.

[@samael1981]

I have an i9 9900k @3.6 ghz. 64 gigs of DDR4 3600 Ram. Two 1tb NVME M.2 SSD's and a 500 GB SATA SSD. RTX 3070 which will soon be swapped for a 3080. I game at 1440p on a monitor that has a 170 hertz refresh rate. Will I get any noticeable benefit from overclocking the i9 9900k to 5 ghz on all cores for either highly optimized free to play games OR triple A games?

[@SambabaL]

I've been playing Valheim on a 6600K, 32gb of ram and a gtx1060 on a 1080p ultra wide and i've been able to enjoy myself just fine. BUT, I'd rather enjoy it on high settings instead of medium settings and a steady 60+ framerate instead of 40 to 50-ish.

[@minhnguyennhat9556]

Just a short question: anyway I will still probably build a whole new PC in near future when I have money BUT is it necessary to “refurbish” my current old rig - i want to light-upgrade from current 8400+rx580+16gb to 8700+rx580+32gb (keep the card still), just to make it more perfectly and/or even a good perfect gift for my relatives when I’m on new rig? Plz I need your LIFE Advices rather than just tech advices.

[@Obie327]

Byte Size Tech... I actually have a Ryzen 5 2600X/ASUS X470-i with GTX 1650 super. I used to have 16 gigs of ram/1050 ti, And a 850 EVO SSD boot drive when it was new. upgraded to 970 EVO Plus NVME M.2 and 32 gigs of 3200mhz ram. (When ram and storage was super cheap) The platform is far from dead and a CPU/GPU upgrades are very possible going forward. Adding the extra ram a few months ago affords me plenty of space and future proofing going forward when needed. Building the latest and greatest is too expensive atm. (imho) I usually upgrade my systems later when the timing or prices are good. Thanks guys for the video!

[@cryfatal]

The only problem with having a super powerful machine is when you get used to it's standard of working and class it as the norm. But then have to go into the office and work with the unbearable office machines that have 2 cores and 4GB Ram (8GB if lucky) and tiny 1080p monitors

[@coleymoley]

I have a 2600 16gb of ram and a 1660 super what would you upgrade 1st?

[@mintavious]

People don't want to feel as if their i7 from 3-5 years ago is crap. (which it isn't crap its just not premium anymore) people need to be realistic while of course it was amazing in its time and even now ain't too bad for an old chip, but its age is showing.

[@Kidd-nt3jo]

Um, I just upgrade my i5-2500 (unlocked to a k variant via the motherboard), 12GB DDR3-1600, GTX 970sc to a R5 2600, 16GB DDR4-3200, GTX 1660 Super and I see a big improvement. I know it could be better but it works just fine and fit my budget. Oh, and I got a 500GB NVMe for a boot drive. I kept my 2TB HD and 256GB SSD though as they are fine.

[@ScotishTuga]

I tested cyberpunk on my i7 4th gen, 16gb ram with a gtx 860M (not even supported I think) on a 42" tv at 1080p medium settings, some low, like shadows and reflections, and actually runs ok, do have a ssd so that may make a bit of difference and try to keep winds as clean as possible. Of course when compared to my other system ryzen 5 3600, 32gb ram, rtx 2080 super... well... you can tell the difference easy, but still its doable and was really ok

[@jvar.]

Recently went from a 4c/8t 4690k (8gb DDR3) to the 8c/16t 3800X found locally for $260 USD on FB (but used the savings to ball out on 32gb DDR4 and a dece MSI mobo). I'm STILL rocking out on an old R9 390 that's def showing its age and then some, but DAMN it was a breath of fresh air not absolutely KILLING my cpu and maxing out my ram on gaming. The setup def work perfect for my needs back in 2015 to kill BF4 at 1080p but now I got a 144hz 1440p 'main' panel and a 2560x1080 (60hz) to the side and trying to play CoD MW (mostly warzone) just ruined it. Was sick of waiting so I jumped on that fb deal and overhauled the windows install, freshened it up, and figured I'll get another year outta the 390 for now before GPUs are in stock roughly 18 months from now lmao

[@mauriciothomas23]

I have 16g of 3200 ballistix ram. Is it worth it to oc the ram for better performance? Rookie to the cpu world. Thanks

[@Ruby_Mochii]

8 Cores, 16GB Ram, 8GB VRAM isn't enough for me. It's like running an old pc, well it is a few years old. Is 32GB is even enough for 5900X and 3090/3080ti? If only the 3080 had a bit more VRAM. In my use case I can use them all up and my performance diminishes. I don't want AMD GPU just yet because I want the Nvidia features. Upgrading from 32 to 64 isn't much but I'm sure that it will be enough for a few years and give the pc some room to breathe.

[@alexsiniov]

Even on 780TI switching from 4790k overclocked and water cooled to 3900x was a huge difference in gaming performance considering that 4790k was getting utilized max 40% and 3900x got only to 10% load. Framerate was the same, but much smoother, 70 fps felt like 140 on 4790k. And when I changed videocard to 1080ti, every mhz of overclocking gpu made a difference, since platform computational power had so much free resources left, video card was the bottleneck even on 720p.

[@minhnguyennhat9556]

What u mean with “every mhz of oc gpu made a difference”?

[@minhnguyennhat9556]

Is it that more mhz OCed now gives more fps than before?

[@alexsiniov]

@@minhnguyennhat9556 when you are overclocking 1080 card with 4 core CPU you don't see much difference in GPU overclock. I got 20% fps boost from upgrading 4790K to 3900x with 32GB ram in both configurations, but different speed 2133 CL9 vs 3600 CL15. My video card could be more stable at higher overclock, and frame increase was also bigger from it.

[@Svylas]

Thumbnail is missing the word "need". Just an fyi, not trying to be THAT guy 🤣. Got 64gb of ram with my 9900k, havent looked back!

[@jakobe_bryantgaming5580]

yea im on an i3 10100 with 16 Gb of 2666, and it runs it handles call of duty modern warfare just fine with a 5500xt 8GB at 900p very high settings (low shadows) like 120-144fps

[@DailyCorvid]

RX5500XT is a mf beast of a card dude, I have one too and it replaced a 1660ti. On lower CPU machines, Nvid puts too much strain on 4 cores, he should say if you want to use a modern Nvid card you DO need 8 cores and 32GB RAM lol however... With an AMD card it handles almost ALL the compute on board plus the scheduler in hardware too, meaning older machines still whack out decent FPS on AMD.

[@minhnguyennhat9556]

@@DailyCorvid What? Is that true? I've not heard of this before that nvidia gpu gives more strain on old hardware but Amd can be all compatible with most without issue? Can u explain more?

[@minhnguyennhat9556]

@@DailyCorvid so does the Rx580 gpu right? But my i5 8400+rx580+16gb rig still give me much major stutters in Cyerpunk2077, not sure if it's due to the Cpu because its not 6c12t like Amd’s one.

[@DailyCorvid]

@@minhnguyennhat9556 All AMD cards support hardware scheduling, some Nvid cards have in the past but none of the current lot do it. I can try to explain but I am crap at this so fact check me for sure! The software you run shedules tasks in different ways to give you your game - and when you have a GPU you have access to hardware scheduling, which takes the strain off of the CPU when it does that. So where you have a GPU capable of hardware scheduling (current AMD but unfortunately not current Nvid), this means the scheduling is done there instead of relying on less powerful slower software scheduling. I think Hardware Unboxed did a great video on this you might have a look there :) They demonstrated that if you have less than 6 cores then you will basically need AMD for your graphics unless you want to deal with software schedule bottlenecking issues. See AMD cards have dedicated hardware for that whereas Nvidia don't...

[@DailyCorvid]

@@minhnguyennhat9556 Cyberpunk is just a shitty badly programmed game. I doubt there is much you will be able to do without a major overhaul. CPU is too low that will cause stuttering GPU is basically bare minimum for 1080p low MEM could do with more and faster Personally I don't think that game is worth all that upgrading trouble, it's so predictable and dull! And those police lol.

[@Harklein]

I am on a Ryzen 5 2600, A320 Chipset, RTX 2080 and x4 sticks of 8GB RAM and I can play Cyberpunk 2077 on 1080p, RT high w/ DLSS off, and 58-69 FPS depending on the scene. It's playable and I don't complain since I don't dip down to the 30-40FPS range where the slowness is noticeable. As for other games, I just set the graphics on Max or the Highest settings and just enjoy the game. I would've bought a 3700X but I opted instead to a Gigabyte B450 Pro Wifi motherboard so I can overclock the 2600 to push it further in case I needed the extra juice but for the most part, until supplies and prices go back I can't upgrade just yet.

[@ciccio.]

I honestly would prefer having a 5600x to pair with a 2070 super in 1080p. You can definitely push higher framerates than a 3700x and probably overclock your cpu a bit (or at least stabilize a decent all core 4.6). I definitely agree on the 8 core thing if your target is getting a 2080 or more/3060 ti or more, yet i would never pair a zen 2 with such a card for the same reason as before.

[@wayland7150]

ZEN 3 is a huge FPS improvement over ZEN 2 even if the fewer cores lowers your Cinebench score.

[@TheMarineDoctor]

I think we get caught up on the higher fps/settings...the better. Years ago the "in" thing was the hunt for 30 fps on max settings. Most of the older games played great at 30...as they were written for it. Now...given the better hardware...the expectation of performance vs visuals has increased. But let's look at it this way. A 4 core 8 thread cpu will play it...as a 4 core 8 thread cpu can.

[@MiguelAbrantesBotelho]

I just upgraded from a 7700k with a 1070 to a 10700k with a 3070 and I saw some major improvements in terms of gaming/streaming. However I did not upgrade my 32GB 2400mhz RAM. My question is, will I see a major improvement in terms of stability upgrading to a 3200/3600 mhz CL16 RAM kit. In my country I see a lot of good deals and I feel like I can upgrade, but if there's not gonna be something substancial I'll maybe stick to my 2400mhz sticks for a few more months. Nice videos, helped me a lot to make some "hard" decisions.

[@maximgirod5721]

Depends on your ram kit, maybe you can over lock it to like 2666 or 2933 and than it’s fine, the 10700K only does supports 2933 anyways

[@DxCKnew]

I play Cyberpunk on an overclocked 7700K @ 1080p (64GB of RAM) and it runs just fine, my 1080ti is the limiting factor.

[@renzcaballero2706]

Nothing beats having a boot time of less than 10 sec and having 2 monitor setup and making your computer do whatever you want it to!

[@vgames1543]

I have both... Atleast 32 gigs of RAM were recommended for my GPU on the store's Website and my I9-9900K CPU negates any bottleneck.

[@iRevGrip]

I literally played CP2077 with a i72600K paired with a 2070 Super, 32 GB memory when it was released. 1440P resolution on everything on high, RTX off, DLSS Balanced, with an avg. fps of 54fps. No problemo. There literally isn't a single game, I've thrown on that machine that it couldn't run with a smooth experience. With my Ryzen 5900X and same hardware I ofc get better performance, with a higher fidelity, but the experience is still no game changer or majorly different. I put a 3080 in the same machine and the experience was still not a game changer, sure better performance and smoother experience. What I'm saying; it is all perception in addition to how critical you are with your overall experience - all personal preferences.

[@meltedmarshdaddy]

Is 6 cores 12 threads and a rog strix 3070 enough to play all games? I jist got a 5600x and Rtx 3070 from microcenter and now I dont know if I should get 5800x

[@SuperKaBlooey]

If I turn the crowd density down to medium, Cyberpunk 2077 maintains a 60 fps minimum, for the most part, on my I7-4770.

[@ragtop70]

8 cores @ 3.3 GHz (dual quad core chips from 2012) and 64 GB (with room for another 64 GB) of DDR3 ECC RAM in my gaming system - it'll run anything I care to throw at it. I figure the Fury Nano video card is the weakest part of that system at this point. Figure I'm doing alright for about $450 invested.

[@DailyCorvid]

You might be surprised to find your R9 is actually the reason you are not seeing CPU based game glitching. Switch your GPU to Nvid 20 or 30 series and watch the FPS drop like a rock... Assuming your on 1080p/60 ish territory it will anyway, 20 and 30 series Nvid cards require better CPU's or they laggg like f**k :/

[@t.n.9508]

Im waiting for ddr5 and zen 4 to upgrade everythin. Im good with my 3600x, 16gb ram & gtx 1070 til all this pc market price madness settles.

[@hamishthecat4370]

Tim Tams, here's a treat. One cup of coffee and nibble off two diagonally opposed corners of Tim Tam. Now draw the coffee through the Tim Tam ( don't dwell on it though). Yum.

[@davepianist84]

I've a question tho, at least regarding benchmarks (not leaving aside user experience, it's just that I don't have enough info), if you have let's say a ryzen 2700x, and you'd let's say aim for a 5600x, sure it has 2 cores less, but according to all the benchmarks I've seen, the 5600x is faster in multi core performance than the 2700x (4400score on cinebench 20 vs 4000 for example), so my question is, if the rig is basically for gaming and office, it would still be an upgrade right? 😜

[@Shmey]

Uh, actually... That Rezen 5 2600, 16GB RAM and RX 580 would probably blow my mind. I'm running a Phenom II 960T, 8GB of RAM and a HD 6450. Granted, I have a Ryzen 1600AF, 16GB of RAM and a GTX 970 sitting in the closet waiting for a case and a SSD to get built. I'm pretty sure I'll be quite happy with that. The newest game I currently own is Doom (2016). I bought it on sale in anticipation of finishing this computer.

[@antoniocepaj7544]

Assuming we live in perfect world except gpu shortage + price spike. And we wanna play games (SCUM(still getting a lot of updates), Battlefield 5, Gta 5...)), and casually do 3D modeling in Fusion 360 on 1080p 144-165Hz monitor so that games, and programs don't stutter. Is it worth buying Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G for 500$(US), and then get gpu when things setttles ? If not what should I get ( Assuming we live in perfect world ) ?

[@PhillipLemmon]

You'll NEED 16 cores and 128gb of ram to play Star Citizen!

[@roqeyt3566]

There's only one reason I swapped out my 16gb RAM, i7-7700hq, gtx 1060max q laptop with a mix of ssd and HDD storage It's because i donated it. That laptop is perfectly serviceable for almost every game. I didn't feel the need to have a desktop for years now, and especially in these times I really don't want to go out and buy a PC. The new laptop is a locally bought (support a local shop), custom made laptop with an 80w 3060, 24gb of ddr4 2933mhz ram, i7-10750h, a wd blue 500gb and 1tb ssd. Slap a cooler on there and almost everything runs on ultra on 1080p, and it feels like too much luxury. I can live with this for years!

[@beastie244]

I’m building my new gaming/music production computer right now! I’m upgrading from an I4790k not overclocking with 16gb of ram. I’m going for an 11900k with 64gb of ram but I’ll keep my Evga 1080 sc running until GPUs come back in stock at reasonable price. Let’s just say that cyberpunk was playable just barely... it felt like the same case with the og xbox 1 and ps4.... I went all out for my new system and I’m very excited to build it.

[@marcello1601]

what about a RTX2080 Ti with a ryzen 5 2600 playing cyberpunk 2077 will it still stutter

[@Metalhead-4life]

That being said you wanna buy my 4 core 7700k & Maximus 9 Formula this week when I upgrade from kaby lake to rocket lake? Will give a Good deal

[@Mulisak]

I'm still rocking i7 4790K with 2x8GB DDR3 1600 RAMs and I can play even the newest games at 60fps high and ultra, so you're correct :) . Of course my RTX 2070 is carrying my system heavily, but still. I have these RAMs for 10 years btw :D. FullHD does not need more than 16GB of RAM in my opinion.

[@jermainemorales7875]

I’m running my system with a Ryzen 7 3700X, 32GB of 3600MHz ram, and a RTX 2070. I couldn’t find a decent priced GPU so I ended up using my stimulus and tax return to order a custom PC (for the price of just a GPU on eBay these days). Now my current one will be my streaming PC and that will be my gaming one.

[@herdlever]

I need i9 10900k and RTX 3080 and 64 gb ram

[@AngryMbunaMan22]

True, I'm running 8 core 32gb ram with a 5600xt gpu, just looking to get a 6700xt and I should be good for 6 yrs.i ended up with 5800x cpu but I wouldn't be mad I was running 5600x cpu...

[@ninja36inc]

What's your temps like under load on the 5800x?

[@CC-uc6jy]

"You don't need 8 cores 32Gb... unless you do"

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

this aged well i have to say ^.^ 100% agreed :)

[@vato2030]

So my ryzen 5 3600x is obselete if i play on 1440p with an rtx 3070?

[@Lachlan_McDougall]

I’m on a i7-7700 and it runs everything perfectly still

[@ILoveJLHsomuch1983]

I'm on the i7-7700k and it runs all my games and programs great still, with two RX 580's in crossfire. Not planning on upgrading for a while!

[@Lt.Shineysides89]

welp i just upgraded to a 10700k from a 7700 non k and up to 32gb 3600mhz ram from 16gb 3000mhz! I know the difference aint gonna be huge infact the biggest difference has been the nvme drive compared to my ssd but i like to feel that my pc is prepared for what's coming in the next 2-3 years and i feel comfortable enough to spend my money on it! The same way i'll be fine buying a 3090 if i can't beat the bots and get a 3080ti

[@StgVirus1]

It's true, 6 cores is really all you need on a lower budget PC. However, I've seen people spend over $3K on a PC build with high end parts and only put a 6 core CPU. Now that's insane.

[@mystery5324]

The most underrated duo! 🔥

[@briandorsey5728]

rocking my build with a Ryzen 7 2700x and 64GB RAM. lol

[@BrewsandBeards]

There's a reason I have a 12 core, 24 thread cpu and 32 (upgraded from 16 and going more was more than I wanted to spend) gigs of RAM. I don't NEED it, but it sure is nice to have. Now I just need a 3080 or 3090...

[@redstonerti9918]

I have 32GB of RAM but i run a lot of things from my pc all the time so i've basically never seen usage under 16GB it's always around 20GB and sometimes even goes to 30GB. Granted, i only have 2400Mhz Cl 16 but still. Even if it was twice as fast, i would still be using about that much.

[@MissCloud9]

32 gb is comfy though I had also tested with 16, would have been fine. Best thing about having enough ram is not having to worry about usage, game ram leaks etc. 6C is fine for now, 4C is showing age (maybe without Discord running while gaming, it's fine for some still). 8 gb ram seems too little for Win10 gaming. Getting off of 4C last year/upgrade felt great.

[@stevea2639]

I recently upgraded from 4790k to 10700K. Did I need it? - not really. Is it great and do I love it?- Yup!

[@Chibibowa]

Sure, you don't "NEED" 8/16 & 32 to play the games, but when you have 1 game open with lots of apps in the background, mods, etc... You will certainly feel the difference. Also, please bear in mind that even if you don't need that kind of processor, it is better to have one because a big game (even if it runs) will put a lot of pressure on 4C/8T (looking at you assassin's creed) And the "need" is also very very subjective because I cannot stand playing at 60 hz. I want more (90 minimum for very nice gp, 144hz being ideal). And lastly, the more fps you have, the less INPUT LAG you will suffer. So, big processors (high clocks) will help tremendously in that regard, because games like CSGO & Overwatch (others too) are CPU dependent to output a lot of frames. So, to conclude, the general public doesn't "need" a big processor. But enthusiast do and they know why. (For info, uncapped FPS will reduce input lag regardless of your screen. Which means, 60 hz screens will benefit from less input lag, but won't obviously see the smoothness improvement). -- However, about the RAM. It is true, you don't need 32 GB of RAM at this time, 16 is perfectly fine (which I have). Unless you do big projects or big streams with a lot of addons. For RAM, 8 GB is the absolute minimum, 16 is the sweet spot for gamers and some video rendering (among others), 32 is needed for streams (especially if you stream big games), 64 is for huge after effects projects and 128 and beyond is either for servers (that do a lot of rendering for example) or mainframes (lol).

[@smarthousetech8593]

oooh it hurts when he says I don't need a Gaming PC, but soo true 🤣

[@askloglog]

Holding off as long as I can to upgrade due to upgrading to a 2.5x bigger house. But, my i7-4770k @ 4.5Ghz 16GB RAM and an FTW3 3080 can runs Vahalla and RDR2 on 1440p ultra wide at 60-90+ on ultra/high for now.

[@yeager4298]

8c/16t and 16gb over here

[@jakeonly]

I bet a lot of people die to microstuttering in FPS games and have no idea.

[@lionelsioco123]

im running right now a r5 2600 and 2 x 8gb 3000mhz ram with gtx 1080, its still okay on ,y 2 monitors (one 34" Xiaomi Ultrawide monitor and one 27" 1440p monitor). Last feb 2021, was planning to upgrade last time to 3070 or 3060ti but since this pandemic and price increase i just went to bought (as you see now) an ultrawide, and planning to buy by the next, i dont care if they release a new RTX series, since it will be expensive as always, and after that, i dnt know, might take a year to save for a r7 3700x i think, or a new one, it depends how much (not to mention i hate when i see that r5 5600x is almost near price as a 3700x).

[@MrZodiac011]

16gb would be the minimum you should be playing games on these days, unless it's older games or lighter ones. The CPU, you could get away with a 6 core 12 thread on pretty much anything and get 60fps, maybe some stutters in the heavier ones. You should always try and get an SSD for the boot drive, and the GPU is dependent on the games you play and what you can get, for modern games anything less than a 1080 will struggle

[@MrRoxBrown]

I went from a 4 core 4 thread 16 gigs to a 8 core 16 threads 32gigs and never going back