8:23 It wasn't an orphanage. It was her house. With her family inside. That was the cause for Alice going "insane." Her survivor's guilt is 100% his fault alone. He tricked her into believing it was her own fault for varying reasons, but wonderland, Alice's own psyche, tore apart his hypnosis, years of brainwashing, and gaslighting simply by the sheer absurdity of it.
@davidpumpkinsjr.51082 жыл бұрын
The twist in Alice Madness Returns did not come out of nowhere. The truth about Dr. Bumby is foreshadowed as early as the opening cutscene and is driven home to the player with less subtly in every chapter. NPC dialogue in the first two chapters alone pretty much spell it out. While the overall symbolism of the Infernal Train doesn't add much to the story, it becomes a symbolic Chekhov's Gun when Bumby meets his end.
@bsgfan12 жыл бұрын
No, it’s spelled out in the first chapter. If you look closely, there’s a picture in the orphanage living room with all the kids wearing numbers.
@arcaderat16132 жыл бұрын
I'm also pretty sure that Bumby didn't burn down an orphanage, it was Alice's home. Soma's is pretty well hinted at too. It's made really clear throughout the playthrough that the scan is just a copy of the mind and not a transfer. Spoiler below: It's the reason why there was an issue with people committing suicide after being scanned. They didn't just want to scan a copy of themselves and wanted to actually live on in the simulation so they were killing themselves immediately following the scan.
@Freeman48152 жыл бұрын
@@arcaderat1613 You're right, Bumby burned down her house, which was the main thing in first game
@donrightgaming14552 жыл бұрын
It’s still an awesome twist i loved the story
@LionmaneElsie082 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s very obvious on your first playthrough, I for one did not see it coming that he was selling children into the sex trade, but the story does reveal that he did things to Lizzie and caused the fire, but the end reveal did catch me by total surprise tbh
@edi98922 жыл бұрын
The ending of _Alice, Madness returns_ is actually even worse than you made it out to be: 1) he pinned the blame for the fire on Alice, and made her even believe that it was her! 2) it is implied that he doesn't even shy away from lobotomy to create his dolls! 3) Alice realizes the truth and murders him in broad daylight and relapses into madness. PS: 1) it wasn't the orphanage but Alice's home and he killed them all, except her. 2) There was an orphanage like this in the real world in post-war Vienna (officially a catholic orphanage!)
@raekaskie15212 жыл бұрын
Also that he made advanced on her sister who was a minor, he had access because he worked with her dad. and on the night of the fire he raped her, killed her in the process and set up the fire to cover up his tracts. Since then he has been selling kid prostitution and then making them forget it. He probably did it to Alice too or was going to
@savagetabby49312 жыл бұрын
...it's crazy how real this game is.
@andresf9072 Жыл бұрын
sure its terrible... but it DOESNT come out of nowhere, I mean.... its telegraphed AF
@DR_L3G0Ай бұрын
So no matter what, he won. If Alice tried to get the police, no one would believe her because she was an asylum mate. If she just left him alone, he can continue his crazy scheme unfazed. And with her canon ending, she's driven mad and is likely now wanted for murder. BRO'S PLAN WAS FULLPROOF, I HATE HIM
@briansmith12882 жыл бұрын
The twist in Soma was out on the open since we see the transfer happen once before. And it's discussed in game. The only one holding on to the idea that it's a transfer is Simon, who loses it at the end. And it's his screaming that causes the unit holding Catherine to short circuit after she finally loses her patience with him.
@dystopiawanderer2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's a great game but the "twist" was frustratingly obvious long before the end. The only way it can be justified is that, in the middle of all the horror, Simon just didn't want to see it.
@michaelludlow6262 жыл бұрын
also Jules stated that Simon was alone at the end of the game when in fact the original clone Simon you play as at the start of the game is still in the facility in a unconscious like state
@AD00Q2 жыл бұрын
In the first place, the simon we play as is nothing more than a scan of the original. The original simon dies a couple of years after the scan and like decades before the game.
@zzmej19872 жыл бұрын
@@michaelludlow626Unless you've decided to kill him.
@Araneus212 жыл бұрын
the twist gets fridge-horror scary when you take into consideration the amount of diving suits missing, the headless diving-suits in Upsilon and the likeliness of there being more Simons before the player character who failed at some point, maybe even some enemies you encounter actually being Simon but in another mechanical body, unaware it's trying to kill it's own another self.
@Freeman48152 жыл бұрын
8:07 he didn't burned orphanage, he burned her house, which is main thing in first game, where, if I remeber correctly, Alice try to convince herself that fire wasn't happened because of her.
@amandadaley41822 жыл бұрын
I loved playing Alice Madness Returns. It's one of those games in my opinion that I'll always go back to for the uniqueness of the game. Also love playing Okami another gem of a game in my opinion as well.
@gman990012 жыл бұрын
I got it on game pass, I played through it in one day over 16 hours. Do not regret it. It was fuckin amazin
@ShadowedDemonSpawn2 жыл бұрын
Same. Both those games r on my replay list. Add Legend of Dragon and Primal to that. (Primal is Devil May Cry esque hack n slash with a very unique fighting system. Recommend it. Its on PS store for ps4
@elissalesse83202 жыл бұрын
Finally someone mentions OKAMI!!!! I loved that game it was the ONLY one i ever bought for the $60 price when it was new!! i loved zelda before too so it was awesome noticing the inspiration from it!
@amandadaley41822 жыл бұрын
@@elissalesse8320 I love the art style in Okami. It was so unique when it first came out and I'm not sure if any other games went in the Japanese water paint style since.
@maikjungenblut87872 жыл бұрын
Alice Madness Returns is one of my Personal favourite Games of all time , i Love how corrupted the Wonderland Looks, the story, the Message and the gameplay . I still Hope for a HD Remake or a continuation
@sevenlexar2 жыл бұрын
Bumby didn't burn down an orphanage, he burned down Alice's home. He RAN an orphanage, or at least played it up like he was.
@edi98922 жыл бұрын
Indeed. BTW, there was one Orphanage in the UK that had its own cemetery due to its absurdly high death rate amongst children. They starved them to redirect money from food to their own pockets! In Vienna, Austria, they actually pulled a Bumby for real. After WWII, they abused the orphanage to sell out the pretty girls for the high society and use the ugly ones for medical experiments!
@TyingSaturn2 жыл бұрын
"Typhoon" and "Mason" The main character is named Morgan, and the enemies are the Typhon. Pronounced TIE-fawn. Other than that you're absolutely right Prey is fantastic.
@scantopup22262 жыл бұрын
they could've done that to avoid copyright
@jake.klusewitz2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too 🤣
@Crisjola2 жыл бұрын
@@scantopup2226 why would a news outlet (which, large or small, or with an online presence only, WhatCulture is a news outlet) need to avoid copyright issues with _names_ of characters or species within a game?
@TyingSaturn2 жыл бұрын
@@scantopup2226 that's a ridiculously ill thought out rationale. If they had to change names to avoid copyright or trademark infringement then every proper noun in the video would've been different.
@FeiFongWang2 жыл бұрын
I was seriously disappointed to hear my man Jules make that mistake over and over again lol. I didn't even pick up on the Mason Morgan thing though, good catch
@chikish2 жыл бұрын
Watching the footage from True Crime: Streets Of LA makes me want to play Sleeping Dogs all over again.
@matttran71612 жыл бұрын
Do it! I haven't been able to get that game out of my mind. You get all the joy of traveling back to a simpler time, but all the dread of know the future is bleak.
@stevenlouton63812 жыл бұрын
Wow, true crime, that was a pretty fun game. GTA with a badge and martial arts.
@sailorvenus20182 жыл бұрын
True crime is one of my top games to play when I was to laugh
@rayzeusmusic2 жыл бұрын
True crime was a gem of a game that came way before it’s time. That map was pretty big too. They need to bring it back for next gen. It would do numbers I bet.
@rdavis7872 жыл бұрын
Tell me you've never played Prey without telling me you've never played Prey. "Typhoon" "Mason" "Old Prey and new Prey are alike".
@rakukya12522 жыл бұрын
"convince thypoon to coesist whit human" yeah he clearly don't know what he's talking about
@nyperold75302 жыл бұрын
That reveal in Alice: Madness Returns sure casts a couple of cross-stitch messages you can notice near the beginning of the game in a new light, huh? For those who will never play it, they say: HOME SAFE HOME and EARN YOUR KEEP
@Crisjola2 жыл бұрын
Whelp, that's my day ruined. :/
@stevenbarten17552 жыл бұрын
Would you mind explaining the relevance. Played it a long time ago and don't remember it.
@ladyabaxa2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenbarten1755 The EARN YOUR KEEP part refers to how the kids are being made to forget where they've come from so they don't resist Dr. Bumby pimping them out to the highest bidder. I guess the HOME SAFE HOME refers to how they're not "on the job" when they're in the orphanage. All the kids in that prologue section are on edge, talking about how uncomfortable they are with what they're being forced to do so their home isn't actually all that safe. It's just kinda, sort relatively safe in comparison to being on the streets.
@stevenbarten17552 жыл бұрын
@@ladyabaxa thanks for explaining been awhile so I didn't remember the story
@ThePhantomStinker2 жыл бұрын
The Soma twist hardly comes out of nowhere. It happens much earlier and is spelled out in plain English to you. You even get to hear your former self bitching that nothing happened and then decide whether to kill him or just leave him be. The twist is instead on you, the player: That you are NOT playing the copy of yourself that made it to the end, but are instead playing one of the two versions that "lost the toss".
@ZBilbs2 жыл бұрын
Darkwood is a really good pick for a list like this since it’s true ending is one final gut-punch in what is overall an incredibly dark and oppressive game from start to finish
@coreycasciano32552 жыл бұрын
True Crime was such an underrated series of games, I really wish it could be brought back 😔
@kingscomedown62072 жыл бұрын
Agreed! true crime: streets of NY was the game that started it all for me!
@chriskuczynskimusic342 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVED Streets of LA.....one of those games i played over and over lol
@SanmiAtleti962 жыл бұрын
Your companion's name in Soma is Catherine, not Sarah.
@metazoxan22 жыл бұрын
They must have rushed this thing in one take because there were NUMEROUS mistakes made with Jules pronouncing stuff wrong or just outright saying the wrong name.
@WaddleDee452 жыл бұрын
Wait, I remember one of Alice's memory things you collect basically giving away who the Dollmaker was.
@Anurepa2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lizzie mentioned the “creepy sod” that keeps “touching her” and names him as Bumby in a couple memories.
@lemoncoughdrop7072 жыл бұрын
Jule's message at the end really got to me. I just lost someone I loved earlier today actually and woah I can't stop crying now because his words just got to me so much. Thank you Jules.
@rezonshinde79482 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wanted Little Nightmares 2 to be in this list? That twist was something else.
@iziwi29102 жыл бұрын
The fact that he said “Mason” and “Typhoon” hurt my soul
@TJ-js7uf2 жыл бұрын
That's what culture for ya
@ZLunare2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping it wasn't just me suffering
@c00mgoblin2 жыл бұрын
Alice Madness Returns is amazing! Truly my favorite hack-and-slash of all. It wasn’t an orphanage that Dr. Bumby burned, but Alice’s home with her mother and father as well. Everyone died (with Lizzie being murdered after she was raped by him) except Alice as Bumby tried to cover up his crime.
@B1g_B0sssss2 жыл бұрын
I recommend the first game, has bosses, and a bit more deep combat.
@darklord8842 жыл бұрын
"...you're not actually Mason..." Me, a smartass: "Good thing because I distinctly remember my character being named Morgan."
@werewolfgirl19952 жыл бұрын
I remember being the most shocked I've ever been in a video game at the ending of Soma. Such a good, underrated game
@emapple82982 жыл бұрын
Did y'all not play Alice for this?? He burns down her house after assaulting and killing her sister, killing the whole family and then places the blame on Alice and makes her think she did it while trying to hypnotize her into becoming one of his dolls and might've abused her in that way too, and it didn't come out of nowhere because it's heavily foreshadowed in several places before you get to that point
@Roguex1979x2 жыл бұрын
Okay, how many wrong things did this guy get? It's Typhon, not typhoon, it's Morgan, not Mason, it was Catharine, not Sarah, he burned the house, not the orphanage. Geez, hard to take WhatCulture serious with this many issues in one video!
@Ji99i32 жыл бұрын
Small little correction in Soma: Catherine is the character that peace's out
@idfk5332 жыл бұрын
What is this guy talking about he called Morgan "Mason" and the Typhon "the Typhoon"
@Reiner_Miller2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes they do it on purpose to provoke more comments)
@idfk5332 жыл бұрын
@@Reiner_Miller Smart but really annoying
@johnwrath36122 жыл бұрын
The Typhoon? Prey? What? Does nobody edit these voiceovers?
@dnprime17372 жыл бұрын
i'd put scarlet nexus on here, as that game has so many twists and turns in the plot that m. nigh shyamalan asks it to calm down on the twists. my personal wtf outtanowhere twist is the reveal about the moon, and the nature of the creatures, the others as the game calls them, that you've been fighting. A SPACE STATION!? REALLY!?
@dnprime17372 жыл бұрын
@D Adams I'd say it is, yea. Some enemies are annoying due to a specific way to kill them, but the story is quite the ride, and the characters are fun. I played through 1 side of the story in 35 hours, and am busy with the other side rn, I do recommend the game if it seems like something you'd like
@LadySeraphineCC2 жыл бұрын
Elder Scrolls is life! Thanks for mentioning Oblivion 🥰
@jamesburrell82572 жыл бұрын
No Spec Ops the Line? That game made me had an existential crisis when the plot twist hit at the end. One of the best plot twists I've ever seen in a game
@stormwolf58482 жыл бұрын
TRUE.
@jonascastello15142 жыл бұрын
Really needed to hear the message at the end. Been going through a lot recently and I've been watching these videos for comfort for a long time. Thank you for making this content.
@stickman40872 жыл бұрын
The Alice games were a lot of fun, I would love to see them remastered one day
@shadowbladegmg2 жыл бұрын
There's mistakes in Prey's description, it's Morgan not Mason, and its Typhon not Typhoon
@Nathan-oo2ik2 жыл бұрын
Soma is one of the all time best narratives in games.
@jackhalus61372 жыл бұрын
In true crime's defense. It has multiple paths and endings. The demon one is simply one ending of many. And I guess they decided to have some crazy fun with that one lol
@donrightgaming14552 жыл бұрын
The Alice video games are amazing I think I’m going to replay them again i love them
@Fomortiis2 жыл бұрын
It's Typhon, NOT Typhoon. Typhon are the aliens; a Typhoon is a tropical storm. It's Morgan, NOT Mason. Morgan is the main character of Prey; Mason is the main character of CoD Black Ops. It's H. R. Giger, NOT H. R. Geiger. Giger was the Artist; Geiger was the Physicist.
@sharkworm20152 жыл бұрын
SOMA has to be the most depressing and disturbing game I've ever played. It wasn't exactly scary. I've played scarier but the themes of isolation and existential dread is felt throughout and it stayed with me for a very long time after I finished it.
@jakedeschain29772 жыл бұрын
Did whoever write this actually play Prey or did they hastily scroll through the wiki page?
@ananaithnid74952 жыл бұрын
I can't praise Madness Returns enough, I love that game. Though the twist isn't out of left field, either. Plenty of foreshadowing. But mostly I want to comment on the fact that TRUE CRIME made the top of this list. Like, I don't know anyone who even remembers this game and it makes the TOP of this list.
@Anurepa2 жыл бұрын
AMR’s twist only comes out of nowhere if you didn’t get any of the memories or pay attention to the subtext. The dated vernacular hides some SUPER dark meanings, and the memories of Lizzie even mention Bumby by name.
@Jolfgard2 жыл бұрын
H.R. Giger "inspired" monstrosities? You gotta look up again who provided the art for Dark Seed 1.
@thecowwarrior32 жыл бұрын
That take on Soma was incorrect in several ways. Maybe actually play the games, guys.
@midnightsushi47692 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought I have no mouth and I must scream would be number 1 nows that's a disturbing and torturing ending
@DamonDemolition2 жыл бұрын
To this day i contemplate the story of Soma. The implications are so heavy and go so deep regarding our near future...
@dragonobsessive2 жыл бұрын
So glad you put the arrow pointing at the eldritch abomination in the thumbnail. I wouldn't have noticed it!
@acidreighn2 жыл бұрын
Dark Seed, that's not inspired.. pretty sure that IS Giger.
@TheHinner2 жыл бұрын
3:00 SARAH??!?!?!?!
@thecynicalone63912 жыл бұрын
Omfg Jules its TYPHON 'Tiefon' not Typhoon.
@petergray31512 жыл бұрын
Prey’s main character is Morgan not Mason
@bearhugzfam6492 жыл бұрын
Lol tell me you haven't played Soma without telling me you haven't played Soma
@hirammcdaniels71872 жыл бұрын
I’m continuing the lobby for what culture to post a bloody spoilers list at the beginning of the video and in the description for videos like this that are literally all spoilers. I hate debating whether I want to watch it because I like what culture, but constantly being wary of having to hit the pause or skip button before a spoiler I don’t want to see. It’s easy enough to put a spoilers list at the beginning rather than diving headlong into them.
@guillepankeke28442 жыл бұрын
No spoiler warning, and before some idiot comes to tell me "its in the title" the games titles are NOT in the videos title.
@iveyyewitt16212 жыл бұрын
The big reveal in Star Ocean Til the End of Time has stood for years as the worst story twist I've ever seen in any game.
@tylerhill61722 жыл бұрын
I loved True Crime: Streets of L.A. sooo much when I was a kid. The sequel was great too. Really wish they'd reboot the franchise. I'd love to play as Nick Kang again and have ryan reynolds voice him.
@RU46N22 жыл бұрын
First of all I loelve the channel. 2nd PREY is not a reboot please stop saying this if you watch the no clip documentary Bethesda made Arkane use the name and they created a kick ass game. Please yall watch the no clip docs on PREY and Arkane studios.
@VarienGaming2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help but notice during the Soma video...Jules accidentally said "your friend Sarah". The friend is "Catherine Chun" 🙂
@jacobdrolet42622 жыл бұрын
Totally amazing video,Jules from what culture gaming, fantastic job.
@vision44162 жыл бұрын
Spoiler for Death Stranding ahead. You should have included the twist that shows us that Amelie, Sam's sister, was actually some sort of spirit and the real Amelie is trapped on the beach.
@lauralasco43222 жыл бұрын
I was kinda sad not to see the plot twist from Death Mark make it onto here... At the start you meet this living doll named Mary who tries to help you with the curse/mark thing. Halfway through the game you find her shattered across the floor. At the end its revealed that she's the source of the marks and in the bad ending has one of the creepiest moments with "Mary is right behind you."
@DeerDreamStudios2 жыл бұрын
Missed one 😉
@snowball93922 жыл бұрын
I remember True Crime back on GameCube. It needed more attention. Great game
@danshee50022 жыл бұрын
Wasn't earth already gone in soma too? Like prey? Forgot from what
@ambriacassidy31362 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what prompted Jules to start putting in this sweet little messages at the end, but I always eventually forget and it's a very nice surprise when I find myself watching another video.
@francisA932 жыл бұрын
This video is seriously full of errors and clearly wasn't read over carefully
@cynicald3802 жыл бұрын
I'm 03:28 in and wondering when I can see what the source of the yucky thumbnail is.. Edit FOUND IT!!
@AngryKittens2 жыл бұрын
The end of Soma genuinely blindsided me.
@bellarmire2 жыл бұрын
Monster Prom is mostly very cheerful and tongue in cheek, with bucketfuls of black comedy. Sure, some routes are more serious than others, but it's mainly just funny. Then the second term DLC has bundles of depressing endings. I'd say the craziest twist is that Hope, a minor side character from a witch coven, is actually just one of several Hopes who are endlessly killed and then replaced with no memory of her own death. It's just so out there.
@scar75452 жыл бұрын
Big love Jules, I've been struggling recently and your mental health speeches are one of the few things that are keeping me going
@Dwainecurtis20012 жыл бұрын
I finished true crime streets of la years ago it’s was a crazy plot twist with the dragon it went from action game in a fantasy
@TheFrugalVideoGamer2 жыл бұрын
I've a feeling #1 pulled some inspiration from "Big Trouble in Little China" with that plot twist.
@Onimusashi852 жыл бұрын
God I wish Vanquish got a sequel.
@stormwolf58482 жыл бұрын
Same. One of my favorite games of all time!
@cppblank2 жыл бұрын
Very few of those were disturbing.
@-0rbital-2 жыл бұрын
I still remember that Hist mission from Oblivion. That was an awesome plot twist!
@brandontaylor66772 жыл бұрын
As the fighters guild quests were not as enjoyable, I did feel some impact of emotion as the reality sets in that I helped murder an entire village
@CrankyMoogle2 жыл бұрын
Bumby burned down Alice's home not an orphanage. Good Job on either not paying attention playing or doing proper research.
@blackpawbellic53702 жыл бұрын
it isn't typhoon it's typhon
@patrickwilson67672 жыл бұрын
In soma the girls name is Catherine not sarah
@onetwo-in4mh4 ай бұрын
SOMA is a work of art. Glad I completed it before everyone spoiled the twist.
@Evs781012 жыл бұрын
Damn. Lookin back True Crime was a pretty great game. Layed the groundwork for Saints Row
@jackwilliam44362 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos, but, somehow, it felt SO SATISFYING to hear you say 'Alice's sister', instead of 'Alice's-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s sister'.
@MildTomfoolery1232 жыл бұрын
Did not expect that pep talk at the end
@TCHNPT2 жыл бұрын
Does this guy mispronounced words on purpose? It's Typhon (ty-fon) not typhoon
@Soojene2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what song is playing in the video. It's absolutely banging 👌🏽
@stevegerber19442 жыл бұрын
"The train is coming with it's shiny cars, with comfy seats, and wheels of stars. So hush, my little ones, have no fear. The man in the Moon is the engineer."
@GabePuratekuta2 жыл бұрын
That drunk!?
@Thrythlind Жыл бұрын
Heat Signature is a similar design to Hotline Miami while also having a similar downer ending.
@pandanarkystudios51982 жыл бұрын
True crime was so great at the time. The ability to take out Cars at the tires and shoot from your vehicle were what separated it from GTA. Well that, and the whole ending
@rakukya12522 жыл бұрын
Say that you didn't understand prey whitout saying it, if you think the whole ending is "get a thypoon to convince other thypoon to stop the war and all be friends" you didn't understand the ending, they "created" to fight other thypoon, it would be pretty stupid otherwise
@robbiewild12752 жыл бұрын
The writing in this video is actually brilliant
@TwojaStaraIFrytki2 жыл бұрын
Alice: Madness Returns at the end turned so fcking dark....even in comparison with the rest of the game...
@kiddo76272 жыл бұрын
You know McGee knows how to use the Alice ip when he makes a twist more disturbing than the game it’s in, and have fit the theme of the game.
@davidpumpkinsjr.51082 жыл бұрын
It's because the monsters in real life are far worse than any that live in our minds.
@mreboric84062 жыл бұрын
The best part about Prey was chilling in space and basically becoming Thor with a 🔧
@gillasagna20612 жыл бұрын
these are great twists but I do wish DDLC was on here too... I mean, Yuri's death came out of absolutely nowhere and was awful (not to mention the absolute shock/trauma of seeing Sayori's body omg)
@theystolemypancake2 жыл бұрын
Uugh, you forgot Kunikazu Okumura in persona 5-
@WomenRespecter90002 жыл бұрын
The end of SOMA didn't come of out nowhere. What happened literally happened several times through the events of the game.
@Sharktankgaming2 жыл бұрын
Does Jules carry the WhatCulture channel on his back? 🤣 Hey, I'm not complaining lol
@gmr97012 жыл бұрын
We need a True Crime remake asap
@Ec1ecticStyle2 жыл бұрын
honestly kinda surprised none of the fear effect stuff is on here
@plumber13372 жыл бұрын
Wait, no mention of Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Jack?