9mm Carbine for Home Defense?

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@dreamingmusic3299
@dreamingmusic3299 7 жыл бұрын
I REALLY like the concept of the carbine/pistol pairing. You only need one caliber and matching magazines for both weapons. It's not only efficient but easy on your ammo cache.
@leon61427
@leon61427 7 жыл бұрын
I like this Seth Rogan better
@laneyhopkins8542
@laneyhopkins8542 6 жыл бұрын
His Weskerness not everyone can afford to have Seth Rogan defend their home though.
@nebakanezer47
@nebakanezer47 5 жыл бұрын
Creeper...
@leeward4777
@leeward4777 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@madhatter4195
@madhatter4195 Жыл бұрын
Seth Rogan went bat shit leftist.
@Snadzies
@Snadzies 7 жыл бұрын
I always figured if the police and the military thought a 9mm pistol was good enough for personal defence then a 9mm carbine should be more than enough for personal home defence.
@rbrtck
@rbrtck 6 жыл бұрын
+Snadzies More than enough? I doubt it. The reason a pistol is considered "enough" is that it is as much gun as cops can conveniently carry on their hips without scaring everyone and/or escalating a situation with a shotgun or rifle in their hands. And for soldiers, it's all they'd care to carry as a backup weapon--a second rifle would be too heavy and bulky. For fighting they'd all much rather use their long guns, but if a pistol is all they have (cops being separated from their vehicles, or soldiers running out of rifle ammo or having a rifle they've used hard malfunction), then they'll resort to using it. A home defense situation is different, unless you happen to carry a pistol on your hip all the time (some people do) and are caught outside your home. If in the more likely scenario you are alerted/awakened by the sound of a forced entry into your home, you should use as much gun as you can, just like the police and military would (given a choice), and for most people that would mean a shotgun or rifle/carbine (using centerfire rifle-caliber ammunition) with a reasonable barrel length for maneuverability. I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate reasons for preferring pistols (e.g. maximum maneuverability) or pistol-caliber carbines (maximum controllability and much less blast), but the trade-off is significantly less effectiveness per shot. It may be barely "enough" but it's not nearly as good as the other common options in this respect. Unless we're talking about howitzers or nukes, you can't have more than enough gun--there are just barely enough and full-fledged enough. ;) One center-of-mass hit from a 12-gauge shotgun loaded with #4 buckshot will put the target down, period. You can't say that about pistol-caliber weapons, which require more accurate (or lucky) shot placement and probably multiple shots per target. Choose whichever option suits you and your situation the best overall, but keep in mind the difference in power and per-shot effectiveness, for which pistol-caliber weapons are only barely enough, not more than enough.
@johnouellet4099
@johnouellet4099 6 жыл бұрын
Snadzies exactly, it is a very good choice
@lauriestlyon8773
@lauriestlyon8773 6 жыл бұрын
There are many reasons that 9mm was chosen as standard NATO pistol round. It was, as these things are, as much a political and cost/benefit analysis as effective tiveness! The 7.62 over 5.56, is a case in note. M14 v FN FAL is another. I used a 9mm SMG in service. Hated being outgunned by proper rifles! To use such weapons effectively each and every time needs training and continual practice!
@TXLionHeart
@TXLionHeart 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, many SWAT officers prefer using MP5s for a reason.
@diarrheadan8088
@diarrheadan8088 5 жыл бұрын
@@rbrtck If a 9mm carbine isn't working for you then you're likely getting raided by a swat team. You're saying a 30 round double stack mag in a 9mm carbine isnt going to be enough to take down someone in a home invasion? If you shoot that guy once with a 147 grain pdx1 hes going shit a fuckin brick. Idk why people try to be ready for the most ridiculous shit. Well ummmm what if 10 300 lbs guys in body armor run in my home with AKs duct taped to each hand and drum mags?
@wtfbrb
@wtfbrb 7 жыл бұрын
My favorite quote from this video:"Gettin' shot is gettin' shot."
@ciroc_lobster4052
@ciroc_lobster4052 4 жыл бұрын
“Ideal setup for home defense” Midrange scope mounted
@BChan1991
@BChan1991 4 жыл бұрын
Because tactical
@ciroc_lobster4052
@ciroc_lobster4052 4 жыл бұрын
Don Hate Long range ballistic bowie machete
@BChan1991
@BChan1991 4 жыл бұрын
@@ciroc_lobster4052 with an extended mag
@walkastray0078
@walkastray0078 4 жыл бұрын
He's a roof camper.
@Aliyah_666
@Aliyah_666 4 жыл бұрын
Bro what if you gotta take those long bombs lol
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas 7 жыл бұрын
I built a 9mm AR maybe 5-6 years ago on a Double Diamond lower, sbr with suppressor that takes glock mags. I love this gun and would not hesitate to roll out with it in a shtf situation.
@zx6rkilla196
@zx6rkilla196 7 жыл бұрын
Just sayin what kind of home requires a 4x zoom sight?
@MJScoutArchMar
@MJScoutArchMar 7 жыл бұрын
TheGofercat77 .... perhaps there is a hostage situation on the property.
@tseawell90
@tseawell90 7 жыл бұрын
TheGofercat77 Eric's home. He's got 100 yard hallways in his jewtube money mansion.
@N0MADS3V3N
@N0MADS3V3N 7 жыл бұрын
TheGofercat77 that and what he's show us on the box of Lehigh 65he crewmen defence is a 380auto not a 9mm pause the video
@TheFeralKid
@TheFeralKid 7 жыл бұрын
+Julio Noda yeah whats up with that?
@munkfish101
@munkfish101 7 жыл бұрын
a big one..... haha
@henrent
@henrent 2 жыл бұрын
To me a good reason to go with an integrally suppressed 9MM like this one is to keep your hearing. 5.56's tend to be very loud and shooting them indoors will likely result in permanent hearing damage without hearing protection.
@dr.doofenshmirtz9501
@dr.doofenshmirtz9501 2 жыл бұрын
Nah auditory exclusion and in that moment are you really going to be thinking about your hearing?i think a little tenitis aint gon hurt but you being dead is gonna hurt 1000x more
@geezerp1982
@geezerp1982 Жыл бұрын
load it up with liberty defence 50gr 9mm which goes at 2000 fps, it will go through soft body armour !
@homevalueglass3809
@homevalueglass3809 Жыл бұрын
​@dr.doofenshmirtz9501 Just me shooting an AR carbine under a tin roof overhang at my outdoor range with just foam plugs in ears in resulted in 3 days of hearing loss. I use muffs now but I can't even imagine discharging an AR in the house without hearing protection. I bought my 18 yr old son an AR pistol upper for Christmas this year and figured it could be a fun range toy for him but also double for home defense in a pinch. It has a flash can that supposedly sends the blast further downrange. I haven't shot a 9mm ar pistol yet but assume it would be leaps and bounds less detrimental to one's hearing indoors. So I'm one who actually does consider the sonic blast in the house factor, ha ha. As well as over-penetration into the neighbors' houses.
@nmr6988
@nmr6988 7 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this video. I have 9mm Glocks for home defense and a 9mm Micro Roni carbine with extended mags. Of course I have all of them loaded with defense rounds to avoid overpenetration. Thanks for this really great video. (Changing my Glock 42 .380 to LeHigh as well.)
@bldlightpainting
@bldlightpainting 7 жыл бұрын
Why was a .380 AUTO load shown? (video at 9:30)
@rhubarbpie2027
@rhubarbpie2027 5 жыл бұрын
I had an aneurysm when that showed up.
@MJScoutArchMar
@MJScoutArchMar 5 жыл бұрын
@@rhubarbpie2027 .. Lol
@kentucky8554
@kentucky8554 5 жыл бұрын
Good catch!
@zedfury887
@zedfury887 5 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else noticed
@teamperry757
@teamperry757 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask the same thing. That'd be interesting
@northshores7319
@northshores7319 7 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where a .25 ACP went completely through a coconut from 4 feet. Our heads are almost as hard as a coconut. I think it should be used in more ammo tests. Thanks to this video I will now be acquiring a 9mm Carbine for HD. Thanks for showing how good it is.
@nontimebomala2267
@nontimebomala2267 7 жыл бұрын
An optic for home defense... =) because you might need to zoom in so you can shoot him in the right dimple instead of the left one?
@RIPtide2323
@RIPtide2323 5 жыл бұрын
yourleftnut1 r/woosh
@rbrtck
@rbrtck 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I need a magnifying optic on my gold rifle because I'm fabulously wealthy and live in a huge mansion, and have to carefully aim around all of the gorgeous, sexy women in bikinis sauntering about. For the rest of you peons, I guess it would be overkill, but you just have no idea how hard I have it when it comes to protecting what's mine. What? It could be true. How would you know? ;)
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie 5 жыл бұрын
Eight Ball Talkin' depends on how big your property is I guess. I personally have vortex spark ARs
@rogermurph101
@rogermurph101 5 жыл бұрын
yourleftnut1 I don’t think he’s a dumbass. I think they put the optic on there because it looks cool for the thumbnail.
@miloren8547
@miloren8547 6 жыл бұрын
More than 10 rounds in a magazine.. must be nice :(
@davidflyboy9902
@davidflyboy9902 6 жыл бұрын
Myles Hopkins Must be stuck in Commifornia like me?
@miloren8547
@miloren8547 6 жыл бұрын
David Eddy Maryland, so not as bad. We can buy magazines with more than 10 rounds out of state and have them. Just can’t purchase or manufacture within state
@davidflyboy9902
@davidflyboy9902 6 жыл бұрын
Myles Hopkins fight it. This California cancer spreads way too easily!
@Christopher_R
@Christopher_R 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need a vacation and a big suitcase.
@johnouellet4099
@johnouellet4099 6 жыл бұрын
Myles Hopkins it is, move to AZ, where you and your beliefs are always welcome
@wb1861
@wb1861 5 жыл бұрын
Just in my opinion, a 9mm carbine at home defense distance is pretty ideal. A lot more accurate then a handgun, especially with adrenaline going, and more rounds on tap. We all own ARs... We all know shooting that thing off in the middle of the night half awake indoors is going to disorient you. Between the noise and the flash, it's not going to be as easy to get clean follow up shots. Being deaf and half blind with ghost images in a tactical situation isn't exactly ideal, especially in the likely situation there's more then one threat. A 9mm carbine you can pretty much shoot without ear protection and not blow your eardrums, there's next to no flash, and it's easier to control. And let's be honest at these distances, with decent ammo, something like +p 147gr HST out of a carbine will ruin someone's day just as quick as .223. Even more so since you probably can place it more accurately. Just my opinion. 9mm carbine is a good balance of power and control, both are important in that situation. Bonus, ammo is dirt cheap to practice with.
@kwmulligan
@kwmulligan 5 жыл бұрын
I would have to concur, was all set to buy a 300blackout ar pistol, but man the ammo is super expensive to shoot. The AR9 is a great alternative
@frankgrillo8094
@frankgrillo8094 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see results of buffalo bore 9mm 147 +p hardcast -- from 16in carbine-- velocity & gel results. I load out 124 +p gold dot at present.
@kevins1114
@kevins1114 6 жыл бұрын
I keep a non-supressed 9 mm AR for home defense. I keep it loaded with 30 rounds of Glasers. I tried them first, and they function flawlessly.
@Gmar69
@Gmar69 2 жыл бұрын
When ball ammo was developed, it was purposely made to penetrate minor barriers and thick clothing. You're a Marine like me, being that I would rather shoot through the "target" than fall short because the purpose build ammo failed to disable the target. Don't get me wrong, I still has the right ammo for the right job on hand. Great video!!!
@sooperphattman
@sooperphattman 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a purpose for having magnification for HD? I just don't see it
@lonewanderer3603
@lonewanderer3603 7 жыл бұрын
sooperphattman If anything, a simple red dot is better. I don't understand magnification at hallway distances.
@ibeam06
@ibeam06 7 жыл бұрын
sooperphattman hahah I commented the same before I read yours. iron sights and a mounted light would suffice and is kind to the wallet.
@x0xCRUSHERx0x
@x0xCRUSHERx0x 7 жыл бұрын
LoneWanderer360 so you can see the flight path of the bullet through the body and light on the other side through the exit wound when you hit the target, duh!
@calholli
@calholli 7 жыл бұрын
your house just isn't big enough.. its for those long hallways down to the west wing.. and catching them peeking in those 5th story skylights in the great room..lol. For sure just go with irons.
@JainZar1
@JainZar1 7 жыл бұрын
Even if it's 1x you still might have issues with eye-relief. For HD I would definitely go with a red-dot. Irons aren't that optimal in a dark enviroment, even night sights have a longer acquisition time than a red-dot and in CQC reaction-time is one of the essentials.
@heatto162
@heatto162 Жыл бұрын
I have a ruger pc9, and I love it! It's one of my favorites out of all my guns. It comes with the glock mag well, so you can switch it out and run the 33 fun sticks.
@Marz-px6vx
@Marz-px6vx 3 жыл бұрын
My wife just bought the Ruger PC charger 9mm for my birthday. It's actually an awesome gun now im waiting on the attachments I just ordered a folding pistol brace, and a compensator I already have the 50 round drum mag and red dot and light with Lazer.
@otte940
@otte940 7 жыл бұрын
"Now lets go science" -Eric 2017
@BosleyBeats
@BosleyBeats 7 жыл бұрын
Cali Cowboy needs to be on a t shirt with an American flag and some damn explosions 🤘🏾🇺🇸
@jaimeavasquezjr6843
@jaimeavasquezjr6843 7 жыл бұрын
Cali Cowboy All we have is Eric now since Bill Nye fell of the science wagon and went for the whole spectrum thing.
@damiangrouse4564
@damiangrouse4564 7 жыл бұрын
Jaime A Vasquez Jr Nuevo didn't just fall of the science wagon. He fell off the planet. I always thought he was a little too tightly wound for his own good.
@fishrrelaxing9361
@fishrrelaxing9361 7 жыл бұрын
Jaime A Vasquez Jr fell off the wagon then got ran over by it lol. That guy went total looney. Oh I should add... if you actually look at his studies the guy was far reach from a science major 🤔. Calling him a scientist is like calling me a professional race car driver cause I have a drivers license lol.
@jaimeavasquezjr6843
@jaimeavasquezjr6843 7 жыл бұрын
john smith I don't think he went loony so much as he saw a chance to be relevant again even if it was through controversy, and the paycheck from Netflix wasn't bad either. Shame really.
@gryphon441
@gryphon441 7 жыл бұрын
Pass 50 state ccw
@darkhorse0687
@darkhorse0687 7 жыл бұрын
Gunner Griffin We already have the 2nd Amendment we don't need anything else.
@norinco8724
@norinco8724 7 жыл бұрын
fudds out reeeee
@tseawell90
@tseawell90 7 жыл бұрын
Yes but the 2nd is not respected in many states. We need something to force state governments to respect the law of the land. Perhaps a federal mandate is necessary.
@darkhorse0687
@darkhorse0687 7 жыл бұрын
We do, it's called the Constitution. It's been around awhile. Maybe you've heard of it.
@Prometheus203
@Prometheus203 7 жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming, the leadership of liberal states don't respect anything but money and corruption.
@ETNApocalypse
@ETNApocalypse 7 жыл бұрын
What I personally would really like to see is several different popular defense rounds in 9mm and how the performance varies between a sub compact pistol, full size pistol, and carbine. Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, Liberty Civil Defense, Winchester PDX, and others. Do they work as desired in sub compacts, if so does the increase in velocity of a carbine cause them to expand to much? How much velocity is lost out of the smaller guns and do those rounds still expand at the slower velocity? Things like this that will help us choose an ammo based on the barrel length of the firearm we plan on defending ourselves with.
@scottroder5516
@scottroder5516 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Reagan on you tube look at Shooting the Bulls videos. He did testing on a bunch of 9mm out of compact pistols.
@lifeisgood070
@lifeisgood070 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I want to see also. This idea makes so much more sense.
@336W
@336W 5 жыл бұрын
Beretta 92FS and Beretta CX4 Storm with 92FS mags. Great set up.
@jimmydettlaff7590
@jimmydettlaff7590 5 жыл бұрын
Beretta also has 30 round mag 4 the 92
@edsonluizantunes6787
@edsonluizantunes6787 2 жыл бұрын
Sou do Brasil e , conteúdo iguais a esse ajudam muito , pois estamos passando por um tempo diferente , teremos liberdade de termos armas , tudo que vir é conteúdo rico para a maioria do cidadão comum igual a mim , obrigado....
@jonreyes6872
@jonreyes6872 7 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a review of 5.7x28mm for home defense?
@dex6147
@dex6147 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Reyes I carry it for home defense. I highly recommend it.
@totalmetaljacket789
@totalmetaljacket789 7 жыл бұрын
In case of course the bad guy is head to toe in armor...
@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005
@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Reyes Do a 6.5 Carcano home defense review
@bigpenguinfts
@bigpenguinfts 7 жыл бұрын
Pistol or carbine?
@forgenorth1444
@forgenorth1444 7 жыл бұрын
Why? I never understand the value of it especially the civilian rounds, they can't pierce armor and they're basically a 22 mag. Not something I would want to defend myself with
@crabblike
@crabblike 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of the 9mm carbine and happy to see more testing done with them. Thanks! CX4 Storm ftw
@jtsierra77
@jtsierra77 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Ruger carbine. Been looking at that one
@alvingeroy3242
@alvingeroy3242 4 жыл бұрын
The price points epic can't go wrong get some streak ammo
@chase3253
@chase3253 3 жыл бұрын
For my G26 and Sub2k, I use white box Winchester for both range and HD. Thousands of rounds and the 115g's never let me down; that's worth everything to me.
@randalthor6872
@randalthor6872 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir! I've NEVER had an issue with white box winchester haha. I love it. And it's cheaper than many other brands. Good stuff. Cheers bro! (waiting on my first sub 2000 to come in!)
@Wade2River
@Wade2River 2 жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion for a comparison, subsonic 9mm, subsonic 45acp, & subsonic 300blackout ammo. in similar suppressed guns. would need a decibel meter for this.
@z-trip5457
@z-trip5457 7 жыл бұрын
European home defense: Alarm system American home defense: Firearm Russian home defense: tamed bear.
@fredstead5652
@fredstead5652 4 жыл бұрын
French home defence: metal sharpened baguette
@ballislife2351
@ballislife2351 4 жыл бұрын
* tamed bear, who’s bearing an Ak
@harisyoung4110
@harisyoung4110 4 жыл бұрын
Usa whitehouse defense : secret service with dog London castle : queens army with weirdo afro hair Dubai and UAE castle and houses : CHEETAH, LION and TIGER.
@lucasgarciabatista7461
@lucasgarciabatista7461 4 жыл бұрын
Brasilian home defense: nothing to steal.
@batmaninicia5383
@batmaninicia5383 4 жыл бұрын
Argentina home defense:
@mongothedestroyer88
@mongothedestroyer88 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not even done with the video. Please shoot another exploding angry bird or stuffed animal again. I can't stop laughing.
@DB.KOOPER
@DB.KOOPER 5 жыл бұрын
This × 1,000,000.... HAHAHAHAHA. That was so awesome.
@eltigrechino3390
@eltigrechino3390 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I rewound 5x just see it again! Genius idea! So dang funny!
@Qsaws_
@Qsaws_ 7 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get myself a 9mm carabine, but a FAL is my top priority right now.
@ScurvyMcGruff
@ScurvyMcGruff 7 жыл бұрын
Qsaws What kind of FAL are you going for? That's a cool choice.
@Qsaws_
@Qsaws_ 7 жыл бұрын
L1A1 because they are the cheapest and easiest to find and i'm on a budget. As a Belgian i have to own a FAL. (we can own guns with a sport shooting licence in Belgium, i started last year and already own a 1911-22 & a surplus VZ58)
@ScurvyMcGruff
@ScurvyMcGruff 7 жыл бұрын
Qsaws Nice. I've always wanted a FAL. I really want a vz-58 too. Those are underrated here in the us.
@Qsaws_
@Qsaws_ 7 жыл бұрын
I could get a MAS G3 for a good price but it'll be for later, right now i'd rather get a FAL. I love the FAL's design more than the G3 + it's Belgian.
@iancornell141
@iancornell141 7 жыл бұрын
Qsaws just get a 9mm pistol then buy a real rifle. pistol caliber carbines are stupid!
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 7 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? One of those loads was .380. Is there a .380 carbine?
@donaldferguson9418
@donaldferguson9418 6 жыл бұрын
The .380 can be fired from a 9mm because they have the same diameter
@rottdad775
@rottdad775 5 жыл бұрын
The velocity was also advertised as 800-4000fps...whaaaat?
@barberic3927
@barberic3927 3 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend a CZ Scorpion loaded with hollow point 9mm or a 10.5 inch AR-15 pistol with 5.56 for home defense? Also will the AR pistol be too load and blow my ears out?
@Dillion203
@Dillion203 7 жыл бұрын
So 380 in a 9mm?
@stang_tarheel
@stang_tarheel 7 жыл бұрын
same question...
@justinphilyaw9238
@justinphilyaw9238 7 жыл бұрын
.380 and 9mm are the same thickness but not the same length so you can shoot .380 in a 9mm gun but it don't always cycle the gun properly.....and don't shoot 9mm in a .380
@dex6147
@dex6147 7 жыл бұрын
Dillion W That would NOT be reliable, which is the most important factor in any defense situation. Bad idea
@markvasquez5398
@markvasquez5398 7 жыл бұрын
9mm is 9mm in diameter of the projectile, and 19mm is how long the casing is. So 9mm is 9x19, while .380 is 9x17 so the casing is a lot smaller, meaning less power.
@TheHarleyross
@TheHarleyross 7 жыл бұрын
I think he meant 9mm at 380 velocity. my question is why have a rifle with a lesser caliber.
@502stingray
@502stingray 7 жыл бұрын
Love the push for the Hearing Act, keep showing off suppressed stuff!
@michaelrichardson3899
@michaelrichardson3899 5 жыл бұрын
Of love to see how these rounds react going through a short barrel
@thenglishannel
@thenglishannel 5 жыл бұрын
Love you guys But... Why do indeed a scope for home defense?
@TunableDread3
@TunableDread3 8 ай бұрын
im very happy about the science you went behind to demonstrate the carbine; gave me some educational leverage on the next home defence weapon.
@rowansutherland1853
@rowansutherland1853 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Full metal jacket was that badass
@ilikewasabe
@ilikewasabe 7 жыл бұрын
I think if an intruder see's that gun set-up you wont even have to fire the gun.. they will just gtfo and run thinking they broke into some spec ops house.. Unless you shoot them first and ask questions later
@pjo1964
@pjo1964 4 жыл бұрын
All you have to do is rack the slide on a 12-gauge shotgun and you don't even need ammo😎 But if that doesn't work just fired two shots in the air😎
@jamesweaver9201
@jamesweaver9201 4 жыл бұрын
@@pjo1964 i would rather shoot the bad guy than a hole in my roof🤷‍♂️
@alvingeroy3242
@alvingeroy3242 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesweaver9201 sounds like joe bidden "all you need is a double barrel and to fire two warning shots" 😂
@62LSXNova
@62LSXNova 7 жыл бұрын
I run a suppressed MPX SBR myself
@jnrincorperated
@jnrincorperated 7 жыл бұрын
kevin S I've been seriously considering getting an mpx, care to share any positives/negatives about them from your perspective? I need something small and light because of my frame
@62LSXNova
@62LSXNova 7 жыл бұрын
I don't see a lot of negatives to the MPX other than cost and as of right now no aftermarket triggers that I am aware of(some coming out soon). But the quality of a SIG it should be expected. The after market is decent for the MPX and the controls are the same as an AR which is a huge plus IMO. Also there are a few different models available and I have seen a few shops putting out some nice K models to really make it short like the old MP5K. Just a disclaimer that this is all my opinion.
@thevtecnician
@thevtecnician 7 жыл бұрын
I use a suppressed sbr mpx for my home too. Trigger sucks but I was under the impression that it can accept any AR trigger group
@62LSXNova
@62LSXNova 7 жыл бұрын
derek lopes it can use some AR triggers. I have seen it take the CMC and the Geiselle SSA. They don't recommend those but they fit and work. However I know both companies have stated they are developing an MPX trigger specifically for the MPX
@JustMe-eo7hu
@JustMe-eo7hu 7 жыл бұрын
I broke a SSA at about 3k rounds. Replaced it with a Larue MBT and it supports the MPX and has lasted 5k rounds without a problem
@stuna101a
@stuna101a 7 жыл бұрын
The rounds at 1:30 or so are definitely not subsonic. I just got some subsonic bullets and a Hybrid suppressor on a 10 inch barrel AR shooting .223 and it's whisper quiet. Not only is there BB gun levels of recoil the action is louder then the explosion from firing the round. Only problem so far is there isn't enough gas to cycle the gun so have to manually charge it after every shot. I'm looking at a lighter buff/buffer spring to get this puppy back to semi status. I also might need to get a 10 inch barrel with a pistol length gas port also, trying to avoid that if possible.
@billboland1617
@billboland1617 5 жыл бұрын
Hey IV8888 at 3:35 look between wall and watermelon something did get thru and stayed low penetrating past wall somehow.
@l.e.o.1127
@l.e.o.1127 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen dozens of GSWs with ball rounds. They blow straight through. Most were non-fatal. I've seen a 9mm go through the exterior wall then through two interior walls then into the neighbors apartment. It then struck a 12 Year old in the neck. Paralyzed from the neck down.
@GuyInc0gnit0
@GuyInc0gnit0 7 жыл бұрын
Kind of funny how the automatically generated subtitles understand the shooting as "Applause" xD
@Paytonwh
@Paytonwh 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I just turned mine on to see if it worked, and to my pleasant surprise it did lol
@TheWhmaxwell
@TheWhmaxwell 7 жыл бұрын
Does that cost 2K? Nice but looks a little pricey for most of us.
@ricks.1092
@ricks.1092 7 жыл бұрын
You can get a CZ Scorpion for half the price. Though the Scorpion has an 8" barrel. I think it's better, due to, todays 9mm rounds are maximized to perform at its best from a 4" to 8" barrel. When you're shooting at 100 yards or less in a personal defensive manner or in a home...the extra velocity isn't necessary. Though barrel length determines velocity, a longer barrel can impede velocity too, if the barrel is to long.
@maximusjoseppi5904
@maximusjoseppi5904 7 жыл бұрын
the scorpion carbine has a 16" barrel.
@Hellhound23691
@Hellhound23691 7 жыл бұрын
Maximus Joseppi Skorpion EVO SBR. Not the long barrel version.
@Bob-kn5gw
@Bob-kn5gw 7 жыл бұрын
+Microzombie is this gun a sbr ?
@johngraesser4911
@johngraesser4911 7 жыл бұрын
Jester7 my sub2000 including a cheap red laser for low light comes in under $500. For home defense I have my choice, depending on where I am: highpoint jhp, hipoint 4595, sub2000, or ar pistol in .300 blackout. All are apartment friendly to an extent, I won't be shooting through 5-6 apartments like my .308 would. All are budget arms, though if the sub2000 got taken in for evidence it might take another 2 years to find one. The hog was under $200, the 4595 under $300, the sub2000 and ar under $500 each. So 4 guns for what that carbine in the video totals.
@immichaelyeh
@immichaelyeh 7 жыл бұрын
If you're going to use a pistol caliber carbine, might as well go for .45 ACP because of the negligible increase in recoil. Also, reduced chance of over penetration.
@charliedee9276
@charliedee9276 7 жыл бұрын
I have one of the first Lone Wolf 9mm AR lowers with a Yankee Hill Machine upper, just a blast to shoot. As far as home defense I do like my trusty 870 20ga, but the AR is right next to it if needed.
@purosonoracompa
@purosonoracompa 7 жыл бұрын
Did we get a malfunction around the 6:40 mark?
@chamd.3899
@chamd.3899 6 жыл бұрын
Yes ma’am
@jesusislord2149
@jesusislord2149 6 жыл бұрын
You mean 6:30
@thegooddoctor2009
@thegooddoctor2009 6 жыл бұрын
correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a 9mm in a carbine length barrel match .357 magnum velocities?
@doctorcropse2795
@doctorcropse2795 5 жыл бұрын
oddly enough it doesnt do very much in a barrel over 7 inches
@big6red389
@big6red389 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this same test in 45acp in a carbine
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 4 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't penetrate as far, so if you really don't want it to over penetrate, you could do .45" hollow point, but it's still possible.
@Barn1901
@Barn1901 2 жыл бұрын
Placement placement placement... 147 gr LawMan .95 inch diam "porting" for the bad guys Lazer and 5 MOA for QCB
@toma382
@toma382 4 жыл бұрын
Did you actually shoot a 380 out of that 9mm build? Just before you shot the 115 gr. through the denium and gel, you show a box of 380.
@tminusoftexas3224
@tminusoftexas3224 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for informing people guys. Educating people is key.
@zedfury887
@zedfury887 5 жыл бұрын
I almost had a panic attack when you showed 380 at 9:30ish
@TRose-hc9pv
@TRose-hc9pv 4 жыл бұрын
Damn. Great video. Very interesting seeing how ball ammo just penetrates further than you'd want.
@zyair_elements-.-4275
@zyair_elements-.-4275 10 ай бұрын
But that’s not what you wantbin a home defense situation..
@stripervince1
@stripervince1 7 жыл бұрын
i use my sub 2000 9mm for home defense, it hangs right in my bed post inches from my head with 33 rounds. great choice. and the xd 40 is right on the nightstand
@mikewallace119
@mikewallace119 11 ай бұрын
I carry that same defense ammo... Its expensive but it's worth it...
@Garebare1
@Garebare1 7 жыл бұрын
notification: *iraqveteran8888 uploaded a new video* Me: *closes 13 pornhub tabs and goes to youtube*
@aaronorr3647
@aaronorr3647 7 жыл бұрын
Thirteen! D***** sir you are legend to make it through that many videos without flagging.
@andrewrowzee5411
@andrewrowzee5411 7 жыл бұрын
Garret lmao! Right Gun porn is definitely better lmao
@oldskoolhoss7534
@oldskoolhoss7534 7 жыл бұрын
Garret ive always wondered if i had a long lost brother. my suspicions are very high right now.
@jeyendeoso
@jeyendeoso 7 жыл бұрын
talking about penetration ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Aaron14LifeZZZ
@Aaron14LifeZZZ 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@Flemdragon
@Flemdragon 7 жыл бұрын
Who needs a scope for your house I wish my house was that big man lol suppressed yea for sure must need bit little bit more of a range queen (this is just me being mad I can't afford something so nice...)
@dylangammons6596
@dylangammons6596 7 жыл бұрын
Matt Fleming I think thats a valid observation. Magnification limits field of view/periphery and can slow own target aquision trying to get proper eye relief. A red dot would be much more appropriate
@souravzzz
@souravzzz 7 жыл бұрын
I think Eric does better science than Bill Nye.
@DamonHawn
@DamonHawn 7 жыл бұрын
U Wot M8 ii
@heavyasfuc2182
@heavyasfuc2182 7 жыл бұрын
U Wot M8 and they don't force liberal bull down your throat to boot.
@N0MADS3V3N
@N0MADS3V3N 7 жыл бұрын
U Wot M8 wait so he says that's a 9mm carbine and the box he showes is 380 auto look at the video buddy how is that science
@alanklinzing7507
@alanklinzing7507 7 жыл бұрын
Bill Nye is a mechanical engineer who invented a hydraulic resonance suppressor for 747s and spent countless years educating the public on scientific matters. He's done more important things in one week than your dead ass has done in its entire existence. Climate change doesn't give a fuck if you "believe" or not, snowflake. But by all means, keep whining about climate change, liberals, Starbucks, the "fake news media" and whatever bullshit conservatives get their panties in a twist over these days. When you're baking to death when it's 106 outside in April a few years down the road, don't cry about Bill Nye. Peace.
@f5tornadeau
@f5tornadeau 7 жыл бұрын
Alan Klinzing triggered much?
@ZZstaff
@ZZstaff 7 жыл бұрын
I use FMJ for target practice. I also have every 3rd round in my carry gun FMJ for a head shot, in case an attacker is doped up and on pain killers.
@user-fl4wn9dn2c
@user-fl4wn9dn2c 7 жыл бұрын
the 9mm carbine is my favorite home defense gun. not too much muzzle flash like 5.56, don't have silencer don't need it.
@cvaninger
@cvaninger 7 жыл бұрын
would be nice to see how many walls it would go through in the realistic event you miss the bad guy. just to see how many walls it would go through at 15 vs 9mm vs shotgun vs 45acp (which is my night stand gun. so you don't shoot you neighbor.
@cvaninger
@cvaninger 7 жыл бұрын
other than that great video!!
@cvaninger
@cvaninger 7 жыл бұрын
ar 15...223 or 556
@x0xCRUSHERx0x
@x0xCRUSHERx0x 7 жыл бұрын
Chad Vaninger S&W 500!!! So you can shooth the guy robbing the neighbors house through the wall on the other side of the fridge!!! :D 'Murica!
@dr.zippymcscoots8725
@dr.zippymcscoots8725 7 жыл бұрын
Well we know a rifle caliber would easily go thru the walls and into your neighbors 9 year old kid. So 9mm or shotgun should be the only thing anyone is using for home defense.
@johnsheppard7175
@johnsheppard7175 7 жыл бұрын
Does drywall stop the Lehigh controlled fracturing ammo? And how would it handle out of a CZ Skorpion?
@paullowell3342
@paullowell3342 Жыл бұрын
I have a question about gel tests. Most people aren’t 15” thick so that means it will exit the bad guy. How fast and how far will it go after?
@noraye2500
@noraye2500 Жыл бұрын
ballistic gel isn't, and never has been, a simulation of the human body it is merely a homogenous medium for which to test bullets against each other The whole "12-18 inches in gel" thing that the FBI talk about is based on a variety of variables, one of which is a comparison that bullets in gel travel vs in pig carcasses. If a bullet goes X distance in a pig, and the same bullet goes X distance in gel, then you can gestimate a reasonable distance in gel as a standard for where you want the bullets to be (different bullets will do different things when they enter a target) Another factor is that while yes, the human torso is nowhere near 18 inches deep on average, that's assuming a straight on distance from the chest to back. But that maybe not always be the shot you're able to take on a potential badguy, sometimes it has to be a side shot. We're thicker sideways than we are front to back, plus to factor in that we have arms in the way of the chest at that point, etc So the 12-18 in gel standard that the FBI kinda agreed on is assuming the bullet has to travel the furthest possible distance to reach it's intended point of impact (center mass, heart/lungs/etc) and that the bullet might have to travel through several layers of clothes, and potentially other body parts, like the arms.
@juansaavedra3821
@juansaavedra3821 7 жыл бұрын
Set up jelleten targets, shoot from different distences and check the penetration of the shoots, maybe try various ammunition for fun see the difference in penetration. Try out handguns to SBRs, different semi auto Rifles as well.
@juncho1977
@juncho1977 7 жыл бұрын
9:30, you shot a .380 out of a 9mm PCC?
@jamesmarkov9570
@jamesmarkov9570 7 жыл бұрын
juncho1977 you’re right. Good catch.
@scriptchild6743
@scriptchild6743 6 жыл бұрын
He didnt, but a .380 has the same diameter of a 9mm. Ive shot .380 auto out of my cz pistol before.
@sethharper1952
@sethharper1952 7 жыл бұрын
Can't believe that cycled a 65 grain 380 round.
@HaqqAttak
@HaqqAttak 7 жыл бұрын
it almost didn't
@PlepperGuy
@PlepperGuy 7 жыл бұрын
Happy someone else was surprised by this.
@meganary876
@meganary876 7 жыл бұрын
Love the Angry Bird spectacular!
@curtwuollet2912
@curtwuollet2912 3 жыл бұрын
Out of a carbine, 9mm can reach up to .357 mag ballistics with some loads. That should work. Only thing hangs me up is highly unusual carbine and ammunition. Not typical.
@curtwuollet2912
@curtwuollet2912 Жыл бұрын
​@@salvationbygracethroughfaithactually I agree, on the pcc and pistol part. Not on the SBR and suppressor fees and whatever the carbine costs. A 16" barrel on a $300 carbine would suffice at self defense ranges.
@alienature
@alienature 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really impressed by how quiet that integral suppressor made 115 ball
@MoonDoggiez
@MoonDoggiez 7 жыл бұрын
That was a "fowl" on your part Get it? Angry bird? Bird? Fowl? I'll see myself out.
@BrownBessOwner
@BrownBessOwner 7 жыл бұрын
I want to see more exploding angry birds!
@adamgardner4722
@adamgardner4722 7 жыл бұрын
Thor is the thunder god .. just saying
@davidh9659
@davidh9659 6 жыл бұрын
Not quite sure I understand the concept here: Why build a bulky integrally supressed 9mm carbine (apart from some gunlaws/regulations) that greatly reduces muzzle energy and then shoot light, fast ammo through it thats gonna make a crack anyway. You could just use a regular 10" barrel with a supressor, and shoot heavy subsonic loads with twice the muzzle energy and less noise. Or use some of those light underwood/lehigh/whatever loads with ~2000fps out of a real barrel and more than 500ftlbs if you are going supersonic anyway. Kinda feels like having a V8 engine and putting holes in the cylinder walls leading to some sort of muffler tank, so that in the end you have the same torque as a small block and dubious advantages in noise.
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 жыл бұрын
The 9mm carbine is a great defense tool- almost no recoil, easy to handle, very little muzzle blast, and a useful velocity gain over a handgun. In Kali the only ones we can have are the Ciradel worked over M1 carbines or used Marlin Camp Carbines if you can find one. My now ex wife was never big on the shotgun, so i put a red dot sight on a Camp 45 as her go-to house gun. Worked great; that gun was always extremely accurate. Nice how u point out the different ammo performance. The CZ Scorpion sure looks like a nice one to me- put on a red dot and a light, good to go. When i get to a free state, that will be one of the first things on my list. Great video.
@paddypibblet846
@paddypibblet846 Жыл бұрын
You can get PCCs in California. Check out Reno Mays KZbin channel, he shows you how to go about it.
@bostcustommusicwriting
@bostcustommusicwriting 7 жыл бұрын
okay.... but carbines that people can actually afford for home defense
@x0xCRUSHERx0x
@x0xCRUSHERx0x 7 жыл бұрын
Bost Custom Music Writing ((w/o) having to get additional tax stampage for the intergral suppressor)
@Mrgone454
@Mrgone454 7 жыл бұрын
Don't count on it..
@bostcustommusicwriting
@bostcustommusicwriting 7 жыл бұрын
762x35mm hopefully, but not likely.
@hakdov6496
@hakdov6496 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Point 995 - $300
@Vvtism
@Vvtism 7 жыл бұрын
Can it take glock mags? wait, yes it can. SOLD.
@thevtecnician
@thevtecnician 7 жыл бұрын
opa blyaaat those mags are so ugly though!
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas 7 жыл бұрын
Ugly girls have good box though
@freedomfighter1861
@freedomfighter1861 7 жыл бұрын
Might have to rethink 9mm carbine
@petermartin7371
@petermartin7371 7 жыл бұрын
357Sig 65gr@2100fps
@jessesimmons9238
@jessesimmons9238 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Martin a .357 sig AR-15 with 16 inch barrel will reck.
@davidh9659
@davidh9659 6 жыл бұрын
Scary to even think about that :9
@Moonshine54321
@Moonshine54321 8 ай бұрын
Great video on rounds. However, any scope for home defense is nuts. You need simple, minimal sights that are useable AT NIGHT, at 3am, when you are half asleep, and firing no more than 30 ft. And you have to instantly acquire your target and fire… no “getting set.”
@RollingRigTraction
@RollingRigTraction 9 ай бұрын
Looks like the Gauntlet arms stock, definitely going to run mine on one of the 9mm builds I'm putting together (both 16") got a Foxtrot Mike side charger and a Mean Arms ball bearing delayed upper, planning to keep them light and easy handling. 9mm hits a bit like a .357 Magnum from a 6" barrel with a 16" barrel which isn't half bad.
@lewisarts411
@lewisarts411 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ, poor angry bird🙏
@MarioXcore1
@MarioXcore1 4 жыл бұрын
"nothin but net" 😂😂😂😂😂
@jaredmaynard9217
@jaredmaynard9217 7 жыл бұрын
so you can shoot 380 out of a 9mm
@justinriley8651
@justinriley8651 7 жыл бұрын
Jared Maynard no
@jaredmaynard9217
@jaredmaynard9217 7 жыл бұрын
isnt that what he just did with the 380
@justinriley8651
@justinriley8651 7 жыл бұрын
not a good idea I believe the 9mm headspace on the case mouth and a 380 is shorter I wouldn't do it.
@jaredmaynard9217
@jaredmaynard9217 7 жыл бұрын
okay thanks for the info, just had to ask, lol
@liamwinter4512
@liamwinter4512 7 жыл бұрын
Jared Maynard sometimes you can chamber a 380 and run ONE, round and it will fire. But it will not cycle. You can run it pretty often in 9mm revolvers if you have moonclips. But it's pretty rare that an automatic can chamber it but not impossible
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 7 жыл бұрын
One thing you did not mention....or I missed it because I am tired, a pistol caliber carbine, even unsupressed will now flash bang you in a small area. the AR in 5.56 has a good flash and bang in a confined hallway. Kind of makes the world fuzzy for a short time.
@insightfulfellow4975
@insightfulfellow4975 10 ай бұрын
I am a firm believer that a pistol carbine (pistol caliber rifle) is a good option for self defense. Especially for people who lack the wrist strength to rack a slide on a regular pistol and for people who can’t hand recoil well. Or people not trained properly with hand guns. It is a good option for anyone. Better yet if it is pared with a high capacity shotgun.
@omargrigoriarceo958
@omargrigoriarceo958 4 жыл бұрын
"bad guys dnt go around naked"😂
@paulh6101
@paulh6101 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm gona punch 2, quick as I can.". Proceeds to show me the slowest double tap ever caught on camera, and not question it.
@leonardantonakakis8953
@leonardantonakakis8953 4 жыл бұрын
I could see he thought the reset was shorter than he expected. he probably wasn't overly known with the gun.
@jerseycasull4546
@jerseycasull4546 7 жыл бұрын
A total joke,9mm carbine for HD, 12 gauge w/ 3 1/2" 00 buck. come on in baby.
@dudeman4955
@dudeman4955 7 жыл бұрын
I have both...if I run out of rounds in the shotgun...it my Cz with 19 rounds of 9mm
@Ryan-cr5qq
@Ryan-cr5qq 7 жыл бұрын
.00 buck is NASTY!
@thomasbradley2186
@thomasbradley2186 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you made this kind of video yet, but I still believe in the 40 short and weak as the ultimate round for carry (depends on your taste, but works for me). I would like to see this same video but with a 40 carbine for home defense.
@tigrispanthera1542
@tigrispanthera1542 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Europe ;), for home defense I primarily have a 12/76 shotgun, secondarily a STRIBOG SP9A3 GEN2 AL 8" and Glock 26!
@bldlightpainting
@bldlightpainting 7 жыл бұрын
FYI: Becuase of very short engagement distances, ie. 0' - 30' home defense firearms require iron sights or a reddot, NOT a magnified scope.
@sinenomine4540
@sinenomine4540 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1-4x scope on mine and actually easier to use than my old shitty red dot. Target acquisition is much faster with the scope.
@LilSquirrelly
@LilSquirrelly 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Not enough channels do different bullet shapes back to back like this one. If you could do more of those that would be awesome. Both popular hand an rifle sizes 👍
@jamesvi2625
@jamesvi2625 7 жыл бұрын
that thing is $1800!!!!
@beermaker1100
@beermaker1100 6 жыл бұрын
James VI I would go with the new Ruger PC carbine. About $500
@russellpickett2689
@russellpickett2689 6 жыл бұрын
Plus the tax stamp
@jbird1222
@jbird1222 6 жыл бұрын
You have to figure that if you bought/ built the rifle on average, you will spend roughly $1000 give or take. (Not talking budget build... an average AR), plus a suppressor, plus the tax stamp... $1800 isn’t too bad.
@donaldferguson9418
@donaldferguson9418 6 жыл бұрын
HiPoint makes pistol caliber carbines
@tim7325
@tim7325 6 жыл бұрын
@@donaldferguson9418 I dry heaved a bit.
@tonyv8925
@tonyv8925 7 жыл бұрын
I put a Weaver K1.5 - 1 on my carbine...easy target pickup, yet good out to 100yds with the 1.5x magnification
@kentuckyjustice1408
@kentuckyjustice1408 7 жыл бұрын
That Xtreme Defense ammo box said it was a 380 round. Were you shooting a 380 out of a 9mm weapon, or did I miss something? Thanks for the video.
@marcmud1
@marcmud1 7 жыл бұрын
360p squad
@billhill7330
@billhill7330 7 жыл бұрын
Dont need no better brother.
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