A POWERFUL MAGE - FRIEREN BEYOND JOURNEY'S END EPISODE 10 REACTION/DISCUSSION!

[@ObiwanNekody]

A neat thing about the Flamme earrings is Frieren doesn't wear them until joining Himmel. It seems like Frieren decided to wear them so that she can bring Flamme with her to watch as she fulfills her wish of killing the Demon King.

[@lindsayroutliffe]

🥹🥹🥹🥹 that is such a nice touch

[@fjoergyn]

This is rly nice guess oO Thx for sharing the information, like it :D

[@ObiwanNekody]

​@@fjoergyn😊 I'm glad you enjoy the theory also. It gets more meaningful later too.

[@fjoergyn]

@@ObiwanNekody Yes exactly, but just one episode left v.v i want more

[@ObiwanNekody]

@@fjoergyn it looks like the first season of the anime will cover through chapter 60 of the manga. The manga currently has 127 or so chapters, and chapter 119 would be an excellent stopping point for a second season. It is quite possible we will have a second season soon, but a third season is likely going to be a bit of a wait.

[@able16]

Noting something about Fern from the first episode. She was already practicing mana suppression before meeting Frieren. "Was finding me difficult even for you? Mr. Heiter often tells me I'm practically invisible. It's a very good thing, isn't it?" "It is." It's true. I can barely detect her mana. Her control over her mana is exceptional. How much has she studied at such a young age? Maybe it was something she learned pre-Heiter or from Heiter himself.

[@ObiwanNekody]

Spoiler spoiler spoiler Manga spoiler SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING There is a flashback in the manga where Heiter asks Frieren the details about why and how she hides her mana, and also some basics of being a mage. He was trying to be friendly and know her better, but he convinced her to talk about it by saying maybe he would have a kid who had potential as a mage some day.

[@bench2346]

are mana suppression and concealment the same thing in this series, mechanically speaking? they very well might be, but sometimes the characters use different terminology related to the actual effect they are going for. for example, this episode talks a lot about suppressing mana so that demons underestimate your strength. in other cases, characters say they are concealing their mana to avoid detection. i feel like there are some inconsistencies in how the series goes about using these mechanics. for example, frieren has been working on mana suppression for over 1000 years, but she also tends to speak about fern's concealment as if it's something so unique to her. there are several episodes (don't want to spoil anything, either) where Fern seems to have a more unique ability to hide from detection than anyone else, including Frieren. i know fern is ALSO suppressing her mana, and it's possible that is the same as concealing it.

[@nelg1994]

@@bench2346 mana concealment is a rare skill to be good at, but as good as fern is, there is a mage that can detect her, but mana suppresion always comes with instabiltiy that cause good mage to know that you are hiding your strength...fern still not at the level that she can hide strength like frieren...had fern fought aura, aura would have saw that instability.... i gues both are concealing, any good mage can conceal their mana to avoid detection but not all mage capable of concealing their true strength

[@dareka9425]

When Frieren was looking for Heiter's cabin she looked startled when Fern greeted her. Not because a purple-haired kid all alone in the woods appearing behind her but after taking a good look at her mana.

[@ObiwanNekody]

Frieren: Aura, KYS Millet: you alright?

[@lindsayroutliffe]

I laughed so hard at that moment when I was editing, I loved that timing 😆

[@lindsayroutliffe]

WHAT an episode wow, hope you enjoyed my reaction. I’ve been investing a ton of my time into Frieren lately, I’ve been watching this, watching the dub, I started buying the manga (only reading to where I am in the anime don’t worry) and I’ve been drawing Frieren almost non stop haha.

[@ObiwanNekody]

Are we eventually going to get an art show? 😊

[@lindsayroutliffe]

@@ObiwanNekody I’ll def show my Frieren art when I finally get some done! And I’m trying to learn how to do those beautiful backgrounds as well!

[@Jack_Slate]

I too have become obsessed, though my obsession started with the manga.

[@Droknar]

Invested! love to see it

[@ObiwanNekody]

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[@ObiwanNekody]

Aura's comments on mana give us the ability to age Frieren. When Flamme met her Frieren likely only had aroun 100-200 years of being a practicing mage.

[@ObiwanNekody]

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[@JA-vw2wy]

Rewatch all you want. There are so many moments in this show that are some of the best moments in all anime. This episode was a perfect example. Masterpiece.

[@ianteoh1253]

What a great episode! Just after the flashback of Himmel, Heiter & Eisen first meeting with Frieren in the forest and asking her to join, there were a few pictures that flashed by too quickly. If you put in slow motion around that time, you could see still pictures of the teams journey facing off monsters including Kwol and Aura. Very cool hidden Easter eggs!

[@mathieucaya]

26:17 that’s the same spell from the scene where Himmel makes Frieren a crown of flowers.

[@lindsayroutliffe]

I figured!!! Part of the reason why it made me emotional haha

[@mathieucaya]

The field Frieren created with her party is also so much more diverse and colorful. That just means she discovered SO MANY flowers in her lifetime since she can’t conjure just any flower before seeing it (like Himmel’s blue moon weeds)! 🥲

[@ObiwanNekody]

@@mathieucaya this is one of those tiny details that really makes the show shine.

[@violetbanshee5169]

Cute little detail with the Ear-rings , theyre the same crystal but different attachment (Looks like more of a clip than a pin for frieren) , my theory for that is that Elf ears are extremely sensitive in D&D , and even in Frieren we know this (Its why she gets cold to easily) , so likely too sensitive to pierce

[@fwicket]

You might have caught it by now, but it shows in episode two during a montage Frieren drawing a circle around Fern. This might have been how much mana to display to fool others as to how much mana Fern really has.

[@ObiwanNekody]

One of the things that makes episode 10 so great to me is that the buildup and expectations is that there is going to be a flashy fight. Frieren the Slayer, all of Lugner's memories of their past fight with Frieren, the way episode 9 was mostly fighing... You expect a massive battle. What you get isn't that. Instead we are shown a lot about Frieren as a young mage, and it explains that Frieren massively outclasses Aura. It then wraps it up very quickly, enforcing that a 500 year old demon isn't powerful enough for Frieren to even bother confirming that it is dead. I think episode 10 is amazing, but without the buildup that started in episode 7 it wouldn't have been as good. I am very glad that you appreciated the experience of watching them together. Allowing the story to flow smoothly is really something. I also just realized that all of the episodes I consider potentially better have Flamme flashbacks.

[@adamwebster1666]

To quote my favorite author: promise, prepare and payoff. Some of the payoffs in episode 10 were promised back in episode 2 and prepared several times since. Even better yet, some of the payoff here is actually preparation for later payoff as well. Even better, the mentions of flashier fighting is a promise of things to come. The structure of the storytelling in this show is fanfuckingtastic.

[@ObiwanNekody]

Something most people seem to overlook is that compressing her mana is likely part of the reason Frieren is always tired.

[@lindsayroutliffe]

Oooooooo that makes a lot of sense

[@johnnykotletti4614]

No, ppl just don't think that is the case. Neither Fern nor Flamme are "tired" all the time despite compressing their mana. Also, stuff like that tend to only be tiring at start, after a while you get used to it.

[@Steve-bv1to]

It's mentioned in the manga that while Frieren is deciphering grimoires she can basically put herself into a comatose state to translate it faster. It will likely be mentioned next season, but based on the amount of random adventures Frieren goes on for grimoiries, I wouldn't be surprised if she was almost always deciphering one lol.

[@Red-Brick-Dream]

Aura: *literally cuts own head off* milet: 🎵Are you alright?🎵

[@mathieucaya]

We can assume Flamme met Frieren at - very - young age [elf-wise]; based on the fact that Flamme’s legend goes back a thousand years.

[@ObiwanNekody]

The mana aura around Frieren when Flamme finds her looks roughly the same as her mana does when Aura specs her out before using the scales. Aura's comments strongly suggest that Frieren would have only been practicing magic for 100-200 years before Flamme found her. That's about what another elf we eventually meet would consider a good amount of time to make a rushed decision, so Frieren is quite the elf baby. I think the swing in the village had been built for her.

[@subhrojyotipaul2512]

One of the coldest moments

[@_syzygy_]

This episode was definitely iconic. I'm glad you enjoyed it as well and looking forward to the rest!! 💖

[@torepedersen3109]

Remember that in the episode where Fern was first introduced, there was a thing about how Frieren and Heiter, who both have the ability to detect mana, had trouble finding her when she was out on her own. Seems like Fern might have some natural ability to suppress her mana? Or that someone taught her to do so when she was very young?

[@ObiwanNekody]

Oh, gratz on getting past 3k subs!

[@lindsayroutliffe]

Thank you! I was so stoked about it haha

[@dochollowday8288]

Regarding the names and pronounciation - so far the names have all been German words, and the voice artists are pronouncing them more or less like a German would. They all have meanings, of course. Fern for example means distant or far away, Stark is strong, Frieren is to feel cold or to freeze, Himmel is heaven, Heiter is cheerful, and Eisen means iron. Hope that helps a bit.

[@enavihz]

Himmel meaning Heaven is literally so accurate, i've never seem such a gentle character in an anime, he is definitely HIM

[@topethermohenes7658]

I think we all forgot that is was heiter who taught fern to suppress her mana. Remember when freiren first saw fern training hitting that faraway rock? She said she had difficulty finding fern, with fern saying that it was a good thing as taught to him by heiter

[@youcefcherraba5905]

''oh no, her braids'' ... as aura is literally loosing her head 😆

[@brianshepherd9740]

This was such a great episode. Of course the best part of the episode was Frieren telling Aura to kill herself. The animation in this series is spectacular.

[@ObiwanNekody]

To the Demons constantly hiding your mana is as disgusting as Demons talking about their family that they don't have is to us.

[@cavbodega]

congrats to 3k 🙏🙏

[@lindsayroutliffe]

Thank you!! 🥹

[@JOY-xj8gd]

Aura is very popular in Taiwan because she is actually very cute~

[@fjoergyn]

Most E on the end of a word in english are unpronounced. But in Germany, ever letter is pronounced. when you see a "a-e-i-o-u" at the end, very most (extreme few exceptions) of the words would be pronounced till the last letter. The best way in this anime is just pronounced like the character do. Japanese are known to have a crush if its about german language :D The same thing is about Umlaut like ä-ö-ü. Just read it ae-oe-ue. Probably this is more difficult for all in the world because its only in the germanic-speak area like Switzerland and Austria too. A good example for me is, i dont know how to pronounce the letter i correctly in most words in english like "scale of obedience" and "fire". I dont know when i have it to say i like in "fire" or i like in "obedience" xD The "Cabin in the Woods" get a new definition xD ... A other small Funfact is, aura dont know about frieren exactly because she was thousand years hiding like Flamme say it to her. She only know frieren after the first fight with the crew and defeating the demon king. Probably a bit more than 80 years. Sorry for writing a book xD

[@lindsayroutliffe]

This is super interesting thank you! It’s been an adjustment learning how to pronounce all the names and I was surprised how the dub pronounced the names so different from what I was expecting 🥲

[@fjoergyn]

@@lindsayroutliffe if its about pronounciation of letters, japanese and german are (blatantly) close ö.ö one thing is the R, they just use the tip of the tongue and we use the whole throat. But no problem, im just excited that someone tries the best ^.^

[@Ichigoku15]

Motto of this episode: 🎵 Conceal, don't feel, don't let them know 🎵

[@ObiwanNekody]

Thank you for sharing again 😊

[@damianobiller7906]

All names in this series are in german. And they all are deeply connected to the character. Very nice way of naming.

[@pickthestickup]

The name pronunciation in this show is actually fascinating to me, because all these names are Germanic, and the katakana is written to adapt the German pronunciation within a Japanese phonetic/syllabic lens. Stark in German would be read as shtarrk, because in German, S becomes SH when followed by a voiceless consonant (in this case, t), and R sounds are lightly rolled, instead of swallowed like in English. But on top of that, Japanese phonetics add ghost vowels to their consonant sounds, so it becomes sh(u)-TAR(u)-k(u). Likewise, Flamme would be pronounced as FLAM-muh, but in Japanese that becomes f(u)-RAM-may. Anyway, I guess that means that the name pronunciation are a mess to begin with, so don't worry about it and say the names however you're comfortable.

[@mathieucaya]

3:36 all the names in this series are german. Flamme is “flame” in english. The german pronunciation is actually really close to french to!

[@mathieucaya]

Also, about the Stark thing: it’s very hard for japanese people to produce the sounds latin, greek and germanic based languages make, so they often add “” letters to soften things up. They also really don’t like to end words with hard consonants 😅

[@lindsayroutliffe]

Yes at first when I saw Flamme I thought of the French pronunciation! Also makes sense then about the Flamme pronunciation in the dub works better with the Japanese way of saying it, I was surprised when I heard them say it!

[@Hofundurr]

YEEESSS FRIEREN LET'S GOOOOOOOO!!

[@にゃんちゅう-f3h]

I think the author uses this episode to depict the true nature of Japanese people being humble. The very aesthetics of humility.

[@djx7134]

This is why Lugner doesn't mind turning his back to Fern and it's why mid demons like Draht (wire guy) think Frieren is nothing special. It's a huge advantage vs. (most) demons, but there are several severe drawbacks to continuous suppression, which is why even humans don't bother with it. Only someone completely obsessed with killing demons would go to such lengths as Frieren and Flamme. Though it's more of a habit for Frieren at this point. She is not really obsessed anymore.

[@Abi_B1989]

Low Tier Frieren is truly an Epic Gamer 🗿🤣

[@imafake1630]

All the character and town names are german, most translations fit their characters based on their traits. Examples Frieren = being cold/freeze, stark = strong, Lügner = Liar. I know german pronounciation can sound weirdly.

[@Ichigoku15]

I'm currently waiting for the finale (episode 28) of this season. All I'm gonna say is you're gonna have a super hard time making a top 5 if you really want to do that. 😂

[@lindsayroutliffe]

I definitely want to! And I’m already struggling to pick my favourite it keeps switching and I guess it’ll just get more and more difficult to choose 🥲🥲

[@ObiwanNekody]

@@lindsayroutliffe of the 27 episodes released so far I find it very easy to pick my favorite. There is one with a flashback that has more layers than an entire village of Ogres. Figuring out which one is my second favorite is very difficult tho.

[@Ichigoku15]

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[@Ichigoku15]

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[@ObiwanNekody]

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[@user-en2hk3bt3v]

When you realize Frieren is also an orphan same as Fern. And if her parents was still alive Frieren is just a child.

[@308saw]

You can hear the h in stark in the sub as well

[@lindsayroutliffe]

I honestly never even noticed it until the dub but now I hear it 🥲

[@308saw]

@@lindsayroutliffeare you enjoying the dub or still getting used to it?

[@lindsayroutliffe]

@@308saw oh I’m loving the dub a lot!! I think the sub and dub are about the same for me, I love Frierens dubbed voice a lot

[@308saw]

@@lindsayroutliffe yeah I couldn’t wait for the dub to catch up so I started the manga

[@BrettCaton]

I like the way you get to see what a demon's soul looks like. It's not pretty.

[@jarvisfowlkes3200]

Hey Lindsey, you're awesome

[@lindsayroutliffe]

Thank you! 🥹

[@jarvisfowlkes3200]

@@lindsayroutliffe Your welcome

[@IssuesTurn]

Fire episode

[@user-fx8ot1ky1l]

Thanks a lot for your great reaction😄....i wish this MADHOUSE produce One Punch Man new season...is it impossible ? By the way, your jacket been printed 'Bou-Dan' meaning bulletproof...U must been protected by some ? HaHaHa...⤵🤔 i actually hoping next.

[@lindsayroutliffe]

Thank you! and my sweater is an old BTS sweater because I used to be a big fan when the group started out and I think they were called the bulletproof boy scouts or something haha!

[@adamyoung6797]

Frieren: krill yourself now ⚡️⚡️

[@ObiwanNekody]

Millet: you alright? 🎵🎶🎶🎶

[@akira-sama2607]

Naaaa flamee is sound more cool

[@benn454]

"Flamma" and "Shtark" are the correct German pronounciations.

[@brownjusticegaming3861]

First again!!

[@lindsayroutliffe]

You got me again! You’re so fast 😫