A Quick Installation Of FreeBSD 13.0

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@lwy0802
@lwy0802 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dt; i installed freebsd and installed xorg, xfce and slim. Execute slim and get out error Hot to do i solve it? My freebsd not run xfce desktop
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
Here's an article that explains things well: www.2daygeek.com/install-xfce-mate-kde-gnome-cinnamon-desktop-environment-on-freebsd/ It covers some of the config files you need to tweak.
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 3 жыл бұрын
Solution = OpenBSD.
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 3 жыл бұрын
@Richard Vaughn That´s kind of a part of my point. It basically ask if you want X during install and hey presto. Xenodm never fails.
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 3 жыл бұрын
@@lwy0802 Sad to hear that. Why not give OpenBSD a chance first if you were willing to test FreeBSD? I´m not familiar with the distros your mentioning, but at least tried most of the others. Still, there isn´t even a question in my book. OpenBSD is good on a completely different level. Then again, if you still prefer the Linux way of thing, why not give Slackware a chance? It´s (in my opinion) the least sell-out kind of the bunch. Anyway, don´t forget that while FBSD and OBSD are both BSD´s. They couldn´t be more different. FreeBSD is the "most Linux" of them. But OpenBSD and in some part NetBSD are the most pure and best made ones. And OpenBSD are the king if you ask me. It´s very minimalistic but still very usable. And mostly it does some very nice things for you. Sane defaults is one of them. Including the by far most stable in-house version of X is one of them. Taking care of all hardware driver shenanigans at first boot is another. Like I said, why don´t give it a chance? It´s crazy rewarding to use. Because it´s super well documented and the fact that the developers dogfoods the crap out of it, it´s as flawless as any OS can ever be. And did I mention easy? ;) Let me give you a tiny example. I´m usually on "current" which I guess is the equivalent of "unstable" and "rolling". When doing that you se use "sysupgrade" instead of syspatch. And it never gets old watching it do it´s stuff. You just type "sysupgrade" and then you can do something else for some minutes while it downloads, installs, reboot, updates any drivers and land you at login. No confirmations, no multiword commands. Just "sysupgrade", nothing more. You´re done. Oh, you wanted to update all your apps? "pkg_add -u" is all you have to do.
@classicrockonly
@classicrockonly 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelheimbrand5424 OpenBSD desktop is super easy to do
@peachestv621
@peachestv621 3 жыл бұрын
the strong and complicated password bit is the best part of this channel, really
@ZsoltDonca
@ZsoltDonca 3 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@Neucher
@Neucher 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for DTBSD
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
FreeBSD with Xmonad and Emacs? Hmmm....
@dougtilaran3496
@dougtilaran3496 3 жыл бұрын
@@DistroTube VAMOS ! I got the Spanish translations ! Openbox por favor
@42DangerVision
@42DangerVision 3 жыл бұрын
*(adjusts glasses)* If it were to be based on FreeBSD; then surely it should be called DTFBSD? 🤔
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
FreeDT?
@StrikerEureka85
@StrikerEureka85 3 жыл бұрын
with DTWM and dmenu
@little-wytch
@little-wytch 3 жыл бұрын
I love FreeBSD but I do my installs of it a bit differently. I don't bother to add a user during install. After a fresh install, I log in as root and do the initial fetch of pkg and do the system update as it recommends and then install sudo and/or doas, micro (I hate vim and nano) xorg, xfce (as a backup) i3, login manager, terminal, bash and/or zsh, and THEN after all that's installed, the last thing I do as root is to add a user (that way I don't have to bother with modifying the user for other groups/shell later, I can do it all in one shot) then I do a reboot and can set the rest of the system up at my leisure. I find doing it this way makes the process smoother and easier in general. NOTE: For anyone that wants to try gaming on FreeBSD, make sure when you add the steam user you do NOT add that user to the wheel group.
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tips. Especially that steam user part. I could see that tripping up alot of people.
@osrcwithrao3110
@osrcwithrao3110 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZDPpWecmc6Wm7M
@NickDyers
@NickDyers 2 жыл бұрын
quite interesting talk about steam gaming on FreeBSD while the system can't even detect USB gamepad properly without enabling WEBCAM first :)
@UnspankableGoose
@UnspankableGoose 3 жыл бұрын
Debian: dpkg/apt RHEL: dnf/yum Arch: pacman FreeBSD: p k g such creative
@itsgalaxy2407
@itsgalaxy2407 3 жыл бұрын
unix
@censoredterminalautism4073
@censoredterminalautism4073 3 жыл бұрын
In my systems, regardless of what I'm using, it's always p i to install and p (or p s) to list all packages with their descriptions and search and select, then install.
@ixp8605
@ixp8605 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsgalaxy2407 you nicks
@AndersJackson
@AndersJackson 3 жыл бұрын
It is actually dpkg/apt in Debian, as dpkg is doing the actually package managing.
@UnspankableGoose
@UnspankableGoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndersJackson I stand corrected
@tedbybolf4616
@tedbybolf4616 3 жыл бұрын
'What you wanna do is the stable branch' -Arch user
@pweddy1
@pweddy1 3 жыл бұрын
The BSDs are the closest thing to direct descendants of Unix.
@ezramiller8296
@ezramiller8296 3 жыл бұрын
@MilNova that is what FreeBSD is.
@theredtechengineer1480
@theredtechengineer1480 2 жыл бұрын
What's a Plan9?
@caleb.39
@caleb.39 3 жыл бұрын
"create a strong and complicated password" * taps one key and hit enter *
@lexibigcheese
@lexibigcheese 3 жыл бұрын
his password seems to be dt
@cam0227
@cam0227 3 жыл бұрын
@@lexibigcheese It's not DT, don't let anyone fool you. It's a strong and complicated password that only highly authorized individuals know, the only being DT himself.
@raymondgradzewicz
@raymondgradzewicz 3 жыл бұрын
@@lexibigcheese shh!
@lexibigcheese
@lexibigcheese 3 жыл бұрын
fact of the matter is: it's two characters long (when seen in any *graphical* user interface)
@franklydoodle350
@franklydoodle350 3 жыл бұрын
"good enough"
@littlepeon
@littlepeon 3 жыл бұрын
BSD is the ONLY O.S. I would run and NEVER worry about updating it. Everything is secure and stable from day one. Even the Kernel only needs to be updated to add features...not patch holes! Yes, the BSD license is TOTALLY different from the GPL- you can take from BSD and commercially distribute as YOU see fit... Just acknowledge who wrote the code 1st .
@synthoelectro
@synthoelectro Жыл бұрын
it's a wonderful thing.
@censoredterminalautism4073
@censoredterminalautism4073 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using it. Doing everything slowly, though, because the documentation is part of the appeal, so I'm reading ALL OF IT.
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I should try that...reading the documentation. But I'm a "fly by the seat of my pants" kinda guy.
@censoredterminalautism4073
@censoredterminalautism4073 3 жыл бұрын
@@DistroTube Well, you kinda have to be when you don't have all the information available right in front of you, and GNU/Linux tends to be like that. But in the BSD world, you have the ability to understand the entire system much better, so you might as well take advantage of it. And the system itself is consistent and much better organized, and lack of documentation is considered a bug. That appeals to me, and I realized that I can do everything that I want to in FreeBSD, so why not?
@daveshouldaine2520
@daveshouldaine2520 3 жыл бұрын
@@censoredterminalautism4073 you're right. the problem in GNU/Linux world is also the program called 'info'. fcking bloat that splits documentation into two worlds: GNU and others.
@thepuzzlemaster64
@thepuzzlemaster64 3 жыл бұрын
@@censoredterminalautism4073 I'm not sure if they've fixed these things in the new documentation (the last version of FreeBSD I've used was 12.1), but here's three very important things that were poorly explained in the documentation: 1. When you modify any groups, the changes to the group won't take effect until the users that were affected log-out. (EX: when you add "Joe" to the video group, "Joe" won't be in the video group until he logs-out and back in) 2. There are two types of drivers you need to pay attention to when using FreeBSD: xf86 drivers, and Kernel drivers. Xf86 drivers only seem to affect xorg, while Kernel drivers are system wide. However, some hardware prefer the xf86 drivers and others like the Kernel drivers, so you might need to mix and match drivers for certain hardware. 3. Browse all the options in sysctl, if you ever have a small problem with the mouse, with sleep settings, or other very minor hardware tweaks check the menu. You'll be surprised with how many little things you can tweak in that menu. Really the only reason why I went back to Linux was because I wanted to take a break from constantly repairing every problem in a computer, and I just wanted something to work for once. I might return to the BSD side one day however, as it feel like a good backup in case Linux gets taken over one day.
@censoredterminalautism4073
@censoredterminalautism4073 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveshouldaine2520 Yes, and the documentation is also more likely to be wrong or not be there. The systems are combinations of software designed by different people, with different standards, that made different poor decisions about what a usable system is, and then on top of that distributions make changes of their own (even to software in the repositories, without changing the documentation to let you know that it's different). If your distribution has systemd it's even worse because you never know what part of your system it's invading and whether you should do something the conventional way or through systemd. It gets really messy. The directory tree is also a giant mess. You never really know for sure where something is without a find command, while the BSDs do it the Unix way, so it's more consistent. Occasionally I even install something and find out that it doesn't even come with a man page, and I have to check online. And there is no central documentation for your entire system that you can read to at least have a decent idea of everything that you can do. Meanwhile, the BSDs have tons of resources, and even books written about them that are supposed to be pretty great.
@saeidgholami2795
@saeidgholami2795 3 жыл бұрын
I have old PC with dual core cpu and 2 GB of memory, I've been using Arch on this PC but usually after a big update some problem used to be happened, some times system will freeze too which force me to push reset button in the PC. After 2021 version I couldn't install Arch some GPU problem I think. After this problem I decide to give chance for FreeBSD. It is the best think I've ever done, It's stable, fast and easy to use. I've been using it for 3 months right now and it's never crashed. My only complain about FreeBSD is that some of python packages which installed by pip wouldn't work in FreeBSD and I think it's because directories structure and some C/C++ libraries path is different from Linux. To get over this problem I have to use FreeBSD already made packages which installed by a package manager called 'pkg'. Thanks FreeBSD.
@AnalyticMinded
@AnalyticMinded 3 жыл бұрын
About a month or so ago, I installed FreeBSD on my old Intel Atom EeePC with i3. That little netbook is 32-bit, so I can't really install much of Linux; that's why I went with FreeBSD. After the basic install, prior to xorg, I got to work with a tty for the first time in my life. It was fun! Now I'm less scared of interacting with the shell. Sure, I've used the terminal in the 10 months I've been with Linux, but it took a BSD to teach me to "live" with the shell. :)
@dacho707
@dacho707 3 жыл бұрын
I also have an eeepc running void with xfce. How does performance look like with freebsd on it? Does it take up too much ram?
@littlepeon
@littlepeon 3 жыл бұрын
Go Debian...try CrunchBang++ or BusenLabs.. Heck, I have an older Kernel on my network running on a 486 Pentium 90mhz system! (It just serves files, but it's got a 1200 day uptime!)
@dacho707
@dacho707 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlepeon i've also ran debian for a while, maybe i'll try bunsen next
@AnalyticMinded
@AnalyticMinded 3 жыл бұрын
@@dacho707 The netbook has only 1 gig of RAM, and i3 (with nothing else running) takes up about 140 mb. I don't know if that's ok or not. :P
@dacho707
@dacho707 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnalyticMinded the lowest i've been able to get to is 80mb idle with dwm
@arrtemfly
@arrtemfly 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for shedding the light! my father used to use it for around 15 years haha
@TsukiToHotaru
@TsukiToHotaru 3 жыл бұрын
I've got my personal servers run FreeBSD a couple years ago. The usability and stability of FreeBSD really amazed me.
@Tala2n
@Tala2n 3 жыл бұрын
The website looks like the nineties but FreeBSD deserves a try ! The installation is detailed but easy at the same time. This project looks serious and robust.
@SamuTheFrog
@SamuTheFrog 8 ай бұрын
Id call it nostalgic but yes
@SgtPiper
@SgtPiper 5 ай бұрын
Why does the website need to be filled with a bunch of bloated Garbage like JavaScript? Basic CSS and HTML is more then enough
@ShawnWebb
@ShawnWebb 3 жыл бұрын
-STABLE refers to the ABI and API. The ABI and API on -STABLE branches doesn't change. If you wrote a progam on 13.0, it will still work on 13.1 because the ABI and API are both stable. -CURRENT is just where all the primary development is done. Commits are first made to -CURRENT (in git, the `main` branch). After some soak time, the commits are merged (in git, cherry-pcked) to the -STABLE branches, assuming that the commit doesn't change ABI or API stability.
@osrcwithrao3110
@osrcwithrao3110 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZDPpWecmc6Wm7M
@landuaka
@landuaka 3 жыл бұрын
Till now, I was happy to use Linux. But your video inspired me to try BSD. So I have installed OpenBSD 7.0 with xfce Desktop Environment in my VM. I am enjoying learning new things😊😊
@AdrianosPapamarkou
@AdrianosPapamarkou Жыл бұрын
No reason to sweat. There is a package called "desktop-installer". You install desktop-installer and run desktop-installer command. It auto-installs and auto-configures your prefered of 16 desktop environments like KDE, GNOME, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc. They even provide the vintage CDE!!!!.
@ryann6919
@ryann6919 3 жыл бұрын
After several years with linux, I think I'm going to have to give BSD a try. Thanks for the video!
@osrcwithrao3110
@osrcwithrao3110 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZDPpWecmc6Wm7M
@is6031
@is6031 3 жыл бұрын
Free BSD! Free BSD! Stop the occupation of BSD!
@rektleet
@rektleet 2 ай бұрын
oh how relevant
@LVLouisCyphre
@LVLouisCyphre 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using FreeBSD off and on since 2.1.6. Prior to that I cut my teeth in the IT business supporting Suns when the Sun SPARCstation 1 made its debut in 1989. SunOS 4.x is a BSD variant. In my last house in my loft/office area I had a FreeBSD computing cluster and lab running FDDI and 100BTX hardware with a Cisco 4700M, a C1400 FDDI concentrator and a Cisco WS-C2924M-XL. FDDI NICs were dirt cheap on eBay plus I like the redundant architecture of FDDI. I had a Sun 386i and a Sun 4c/60 (SPARCstation 1) in my test area. I also a SCO Xenix and upgraded to a ISC Unix 2.x UUCP site in my apartment. This was back when the Internet was a network of dialup systems and also during the dialup BBS era. My loft/office was a Unix geek's paradise. I could have run a small ISP and hosting service out of my home. I absolutely hate Linux. There are times I will use some canned disaster recovery distributions on a USB drive, but other than that. BLAH! If I need to go and wrench my servers and the operating system, I will choose FreeBSD or any BSD, for that matter, long before I'll dink with Linux. If you're running a server farm or a custom firewall/router/VPN, I would run BSD. It's also important to note that FreeBSD, and probably all BSDs, have Linux emulation. There's a lot of cross pollination of code between BSD and Linux and between the three BSD projects; Free, Net and Open. Just because it doesn't exist in FreeBSD doesn't mean you can't make it run under FreeBSD.
@cam0227
@cam0227 3 жыл бұрын
Sill scratching my head wondering what the strong and complicated password could be.
@renealbrechtsen9743
@renealbrechtsen9743 3 жыл бұрын
69
@cam0227
@cam0227 3 жыл бұрын
@@renealbrechtsen9743 nice.
@paarthjuneja3707
@paarthjuneja3707 3 жыл бұрын
dt
@ahmadyogi1340
@ahmadyogi1340 3 жыл бұрын
@@paarthjuneja3707 no way
@raymondgradzewicz
@raymondgradzewicz 3 жыл бұрын
@@paarthjuneja3707 shh!
@cstephan7
@cstephan7 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, DT, RELEASE and STABLE are separate tracks of FreeBSD. STABLE is where code is polished in anticipation of the next RELEASE. Newcomers and desktop users definitely should use RELEASE and RELEASE *only*. RELEASE always has normal binary upgrades. STABLE is more-or-less equivalent to a GNU-Linux 'rolling release,' and it requires updates from source. CURRENT is more 'alpha' than 'beta' -- i.e. where all the absolute newest code is tested. Here is a miniature guide: RELEASE = for everyone, desktop users, etc. Binary upgrades. STABLE = for production environments with custom builds from source or people testing a snapshot in anticipation of the next -RELEASE. More-or-less steady rolling release. Upgrades from source. CURRENT = for developers and testers. Upgrades from source. In the future, please kindly refer to the FreeBSD Handbook and other official documentation. It is important that you use FreeBSD's own terms when discussing the operating system. Thank you for the installation and review. Cheers.
@landuaka
@landuaka 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Auspicious Navratri.🙏🙏🙏 Loved your TShirt
@kylewillett9817
@kylewillett9817 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you gave FreeBSD some love DT, it makes me love your channel even more! I would love it if you cover OpenBSD 6.9 when it releases around May 1, 2021!
@charlessmith5465
@charlessmith5465 3 жыл бұрын
Openbsd became a lot easier to maintain after they added the commands to install binary errata updates and upgrade between minor versions.
@ararattempest-lingua
@ararattempest-lingua 3 жыл бұрын
FreeBSD defines the standard of lightweight and freedom just like Arch, and that's one of the main charm of it. but for regular desktop users who wants an out-of-the-box OS, better start with GhostBSD and NomadBSD. btw, R.I.P. FuryBSD.
@oandgw
@oandgw 3 жыл бұрын
Or just use the desktop install script.
@sosurim
@sosurim 3 жыл бұрын
BSD in general is much more mature than Linux, having been around much longer. The smaller kernel is a feature not a bug. By design it's designed to be more modular and light, whereas Linux opted for a monolithic kernel which IMO fattens the kernel too much. This is also the reason why BSD performs better in a server environment than Linux, and so is more performant and reliable. I run equal number of Linux servers as BSD servers. If I had to bet my life on one of them, it would definitely be BSD. But sure, if you want a nice desktop with a window manager, Linux distros have tons of variety, only because the likes of FreeBSD don't come with them installed. But if you want to get a true taste of what Unix is like, try a Free|Net|Open BSD for server duties. I have a FreeBSD server whose uptime is just a tad below 10 years.
@JoeyGarcia
@JoeyGarcia 3 жыл бұрын
Preach brother, preach!! FreeBSD is one damn solid OS!
@osrcwithrao3110
@osrcwithrao3110 2 жыл бұрын
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@blakkheim
@blakkheim 3 жыл бұрын
your description of the -stable branch is not correct. -release is the "stable" (in the general sense of the word) release branch. -release versions are cut from the -stable branch. that is to say, right now, 13.0-stable has newer features than the 13.0-release that recently came out.
@mikereynolds1368
@mikereynolds1368 3 жыл бұрын
STABLE refers to the fact that the ABI\API is stable and will remain 100% compatible for the duration of the 13 series. Most users want RELEASE.
@Andrath
@Andrath 3 жыл бұрын
Remember, FreeBSD doesn't like virtual hugs. OpenBSD doesn't care. Be like OpenBSD.
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 3 жыл бұрын
You are a bit out of touch - There is a new CoC that came into effect last year. FreeBSD has has adopted a new LLVM-derived code of conduct.
@TheMostTruth
@TheMostTruth 3 жыл бұрын
@RoboNuggie It is now instead "Unwelcome sexual attention."
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMostTruth I think that's the Linux one, came out in 2018 - at the same time Torvalds went walkabouts after saying sorry.... From the Linux Coc - "The use of sexualized language or imagery and unwelcome sexual attention or advances"
@mangenshinobi1567
@mangenshinobi1567 3 жыл бұрын
Wow very good video I really enjoyed the installation of the latest free BSD 😃
@ReaperX7
@ReaperX7 2 жыл бұрын
Got back into FreeBSD recently. It's actually a very fleshed out OS these days. The Linux Compatibility layer is not as good as it could be, but it is good enough to work well with a lot of software, and I have been experimenting with emulators and some games. It really feels closer to Slackware than other Linux distributions.
@nilswegner2881
@nilswegner2881 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used gentoo? Because that's basically FreeBSD but linux.
@ReaperX7
@ReaperX7 2 жыл бұрын
@@nilswegner2881 I tried Gentoo but after the insurmountable flags you have to enable to get certain packages to build started piling up and way too many rebuilds, I gave up on it. I actually had an easier time follow Gerard Beekman's LinuxFromScratch book.
@waltereikrem
@waltereikrem 3 жыл бұрын
Unix tech talk with southern american accent is relaxing ngl lol
@web3wizard381
@web3wizard381 3 жыл бұрын
So what do you think about FreeBSD after all?
@raf.nogueira
@raf.nogueira 3 жыл бұрын
I completely loved FreeBSD my only problem that made me very very sad is that , the mirrors are very slow in my country Brazil, and also there is no Steam for Frreebsd, so I couldn' t play games without doing some hacking on linux wrapper. The best way to test FreeBSD is test it on real machine, the perfomance and memory management are amazing. Not big surprise that PS3,4,5 and MacOSX uses Freebsd kernels
@TheMostTruth
@TheMostTruth 3 жыл бұрын
@@raf.nogueira mirrors are slow in many places it seems. Also Steam is possible via Homura, and Linuxulator. But i gotta tell you, it's barely a shadow of what it is on Linux. I install FreeBSD from time to time, but heck, i can't "live" in it.
@DocLulzson
@DocLulzson 3 жыл бұрын
FreeBSD is quicker and the kernel is better. Hell it runs GNU/Linux apps faster then GNU/Linux can. Just doesn't have up to date packages. Be great if more people put time in the project.
@raf.nogueira
@raf.nogueira 3 жыл бұрын
@@DocLulzson Also have the best logo and mascot in all operating system in existence
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 3 жыл бұрын
ASUS eeePC 1001PX with Intel Atom. Perfect candidate for FreeBSD 💪
@ProgressiveTory
@ProgressiveTory 3 жыл бұрын
Simple introduction to main BSD distros: FreeBSD - reliable and works like swiss knife! OpenBSD - safest OS in the world. NetBSD - you can port it on your vacuum cleaner! P.S. BSD is perfect! If you really want to try it,there's no time to lose! You can ask me some questions,that i'll answer to.
@TheMostTruth
@TheMostTruth 3 жыл бұрын
It is in no way shape or form perfect. There are lots of stuff that a normal user would expect out of the box that isn't available.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 жыл бұрын
Linux runs on more major processor architectures than NetBSD.
@ProgressiveTory
@ProgressiveTory 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMostTruth to be honest,that is more of user's problem,OS is innocent in this context
@ProgressiveTory
@ProgressiveTory 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 don't get me wrong ,but sometimes BSD works better and faster than Linux comparing them on dedicated hardware. For real example,my laptop boots and works ~twice faster on FreeBSD.
@asheraialon1037
@asheraialon1037 2 жыл бұрын
woooooweeeee finally thank you so much after several dayss!!!
@demxey9395
@demxey9395 3 жыл бұрын
Damn i love this OS, its perfect. I run FreeBSD on a Threadripper 3960x machine and the performance is awesome
@Kemikals
@Kemikals 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the installer looks exactly the same as when I installed 4.0 back in the day lol
@NaviciaAbbot
@NaviciaAbbot 3 жыл бұрын
DT, FreeBSD is a Unix Descendant, not a Unix-like. Yes, I'm pedantic about this. Just like how I'm pedantic at pointing out the meaning behind GNU.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 жыл бұрын
“UNIX” is officially a trademark which none of the BSDs or Linuxes are licensed to use.
@NaviciaAbbot
@NaviciaAbbot 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 A) I said it was a Unix Descendant, not a Unix itself. B) There is one BSD that has a Unix registration - Darwin. It passes UNIX 03 and is allowed to call itself a proper UNIX.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 жыл бұрын
@@NaviciaAbbot You don’t get the trademark without paying the licence fee. Apple paid the fee for its OS, not for any open-source projects.
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, there is no “Unix itself”. Trademarks are meant to be used as adjectives, not nouns.
@faikyesilyaprak8761
@faikyesilyaprak8761 3 жыл бұрын
This long and complicated password stuff always makes me smile. Keep up the good work dt !!
@lvill3633
@lvill3633 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! ☺️
@archascents5157
@archascents5157 2 жыл бұрын
after i reboot and press Enter or 1 during the countdown at clip 9:00, i see some text scroll by like you do, but then i'm brought right back to the Installer start window that you display at 2:42. I've tried following the reboot 2 times now and it just keeps looping at the same spot back to the beginning of installation.
@persistent-programmer
@persistent-programmer 3 жыл бұрын
you really have the best Linux videos..!
@quantumfate4677
@quantumfate4677 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you use a focusrite sound interface and I was wondering, if you could make a video on how to optimize sound input quality and recording on linux
@raf.nogueira
@raf.nogueira 3 жыл бұрын
I completely loved FreeBSD my only problem that made me very very sad is that , the mirrors are very slow in my country Brazil, and also there is no Steam for Frreebsd, so I couldn' t play games without doing some hacking on linux wrapper. The best way to test FreeBSD is test it on real machine, the perfomance and memory management are amazing. Not big surprise that PS3,4,5 and MacOSX uses Freebsd kernels
@NaviciaAbbot
@NaviciaAbbot 3 жыл бұрын
The Nintendo Switch's Horizon OS uses the FBSD kernel as well.
@mcdonkeylips
@mcdonkeylips 3 жыл бұрын
Installing freebsd is actually easier than arch IMO
@alexvepsian9488
@alexvepsian9488 3 жыл бұрын
6:26 What? I thought no one in US uses 24h format
@_ClericalError_
@_ClericalError_ 3 жыл бұрын
Have used 24-hour format for many years. You will find that a lot of military and ex-military folks use it regularly, and (as in my case) people who've worked in industrial environments often use that format normally. So although it may be less common than other places, plenty of people here use 24h time.
@olivermbuzi1116
@olivermbuzi1116 2 жыл бұрын
I need help on how i can install FreeBSD on a laptop computer using a USB drive.
@JonathanSteadman2003
@JonathanSteadman2003 2 жыл бұрын
FreeBSD is a great OS! :)
@caddr
@caddr 3 жыл бұрын
i dunno man i love puffy and paranoid on security team
@synthoelectro
@synthoelectro Жыл бұрын
dude is everywhere. :D
@manabuta2008
@manabuta2008 3 жыл бұрын
Very Clear Speech !!!
@celestialadministration
@celestialadministration 3 жыл бұрын
Freebsd is actually pretty good. Great alternative.
@snubdodecahedron9769
@snubdodecahedron9769 2 жыл бұрын
DT: Strong and complicated password Also DT: two letter password
@millankumar9245
@millankumar9245 3 жыл бұрын
Hey DT, what did you think of FreeBSD, how does it compare to Linux distros (in your opinion)? What would be the reason(s) to use FreeBSD (or GhostBSD/MidnightBSD/Other BSD) over Linux? Linux seems to bigger as you said, which means more support, and because of that, more things will just work.
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
On the desktop? There's no advantage to using the BSDs. Linux supports far more hardware. On the server, there might be advantages to the BSDs. FreeBSD has a reputation for having a more robust network stack compared to Linux (and other OS's). OpenBSD has a good reputation when it comes to security. And for many years, ZFS was a BSD thing...only recently is ZFS available on Linux.
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
I'd also mention that some people prefer the BSD licenses as opposed to the GPL license and choose their OS based on that.
@millankumar9245
@millankumar9245 3 жыл бұрын
@@DistroTube Ok thanks for explaining!
@Vlad-1986
@Vlad-1986 3 жыл бұрын
It is the closest you can go to UNIX. all packages got ports too, if you want to use them, and you can mix it with binaries (ports compile programs from source. It is cool as you can choose which features to enable/disable for each program, but as you can have a mix install you are not forced to compile everything). That POSIX compatibility means a much cleaner system: All system apps go to /bin. All user installed apps go under /usr/bin... So it is much easier to maintain and find programs. It also has binary compatibility with Linux, so you can run Linux software there, if you need something (games) running. Ah, and CDE support. You can' t forget CDE support.
@TheMostTruth
@TheMostTruth 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vlad-1986 Yes you can run some games from Linux, but often it's a hassle.
@mjbn2k
@mjbn2k 3 жыл бұрын
I think im not gonna touch bsd(for now) I should write my installtion scripts for arch (at least it has a package manager installed)
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
One of the things that keeps me on Arch is I've got some of my stuff packaged in the AUR.
@abhinavchavali1443
@abhinavchavali1443 3 жыл бұрын
@@DistroTube Would you ever consider gentoo?
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
No, I wouldn't run Gentoo on my production machine. Not with all that I do on my computer. Minutes count! I can't wait on compiling.
@NaviciaAbbot
@NaviciaAbbot 3 жыл бұрын
FreeBSD has pkg, a package manager with a configurable repository. As such, you can switch between a quarterly and a rolling release.
@Vlad-1986
@Vlad-1986 3 жыл бұрын
You got pkg by default in freeBSD AND ports, which is way cooler. You got two ways of installing packages by default, instead of one.
@vistanationrockafellaz
@vistanationrockafellaz 2 жыл бұрын
tq sir for you quick tutorial
@TheGraum
@TheGraum 3 жыл бұрын
On a real machine: + install drm-kmod (video driver and make changes to rc.conf) and fonts. Then we read the logs and eliminate the errors that have popped up. The problem with adequate redirection of several audio channels has not yet been solved.
@DocLulzson
@DocLulzson 3 жыл бұрын
*Yes FreeBSD!*
@bushmaster7515
@bushmaster7515 Ай бұрын
Brilliant Tutorial
@Enrico-Migliore
@Enrico-Migliore 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@jaopredoramires
@jaopredoramires 3 жыл бұрын
can you configure your VM to automatically adjust to the window size? (resolution)
@jaopredoramires
@jaopredoramires 3 жыл бұрын
never installed a video driver in my life very new to this
@snubdodecahedron9769
@snubdodecahedron9769 2 жыл бұрын
5:25 Unix-based OSes: hides the characters in a password Me who can hear how many characters he types: I don't have such weaknesses
@13thravenpurple94
@13thravenpurple94 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Thank you
@lazi21
@lazi21 3 жыл бұрын
Please more FreeBSD and related software :)
@thepuzzlemaster64
@thepuzzlemaster64 3 жыл бұрын
>Installs ports tree >uses pkg instead I think you're new to FreeBSD aren't you.
@Joe-qh4px
@Joe-qh4px 3 жыл бұрын
you install the ports tree ,,,, use pkg install binarypackage name, or you can cd /usr/ports/nameofpackage/ make install
@thepuzzlemaster64
@thepuzzlemaster64 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Harris Yes sir-y that's how it works. However he never used nor demonstrated how it works, so he probably has no idea what the ports tree is and thought it was something for pkg. Even still when it comes to FreeBSD, it's better to pick one or the other as mixing can cause problems (not as much as it used to from what I've heard, but it's still a possibility). Lastly, through experimentation I figured that you're better off not installing the ports tree from the installer, as it's already outdated and portsnap will install the latest ports tree anyway. It's also recommended to install the source code to install updated kernel drivers through said ports tree. I know my stuff dude, I've installed FreeBSD dozens of times trying to figure-out how it works and reading the handbook every chance I could. Although I wasn't completely successful making it my daily driver, I've more or less memorized the basics.
@michaelgraziano8038
@michaelgraziano8038 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Ports use the pkg system under the hood so you probably only get into trouble mixing and matching if you do custom port builds (e.g. if you build a port without some feature that FreeBSD includes by default which you don't use, then you install a package that depends on the port and expects that feature to be enabled). That said it's definitely still better to pick one or the other (building ports from source or installing from official packages) and stick with it - and for most people probably best to stick with packages unless watching stuff compile is your thing.
@hamdibendjeddou5177
@hamdibendjeddou5177 3 жыл бұрын
Hi derrick how did you solve the problem of launching the graphic environment? I'm newbie how do i add the user to the video group? thank you
@alexdenton6586
@alexdenton6586 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t install brave on FreeBSD
@williama29
@williama29 3 жыл бұрын
I used this before and I used the ports collection what virtual machine software are you using
@blendingsentinel4797
@blendingsentinel4797 Жыл бұрын
Correction: BSD is not UNIX-Like, it is a mainline UNIX System based on Bell Labs UNIX Version 5. Linux, however, is a clone of Minix which is a clone of UNIX. (Minix may be a clone of Version 7 UNIX Specifically.)
@tylerdean980
@tylerdean980 Жыл бұрын
Every claim you made was wrong lol, BSD is not UNIX, it was completely re written and shared no code with its UNIX origin. (Even FreeBSD says it's UNIX-like) Linux is not a Minix clone, Minix is a microkernel and Linux is monolithic.
@gvia66
@gvia66 3 жыл бұрын
i tryed the 12.1 i install xfce, network (on my Thinkpad T550)... but could not run my integrated webcam or Google Earth. The 13.0 version it's more stable for this ?
@TukozAki
@TukozAki 3 жыл бұрын
So I just checked and slim's config files are located in /etc when using Arch, vs /usr in FreeBSD 13.0. And having any config files out of their system or user directories makes me uncomfortable. Reminds me of a certain OS with depictable ways of putting (fragmented) files everywhere.
@repairstudio4940
@repairstudio4940 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I was lost for a bit haha
@mohamedmahimoussa
@mohamedmahimoussa 3 жыл бұрын
Hello I am IT engineer I have tested freebsd for two weeks and I found that there are many problems on driver's i think that Linux still always the better on drivers and software
@TuDawid
@TuDawid 3 жыл бұрын
there is a built-in script in freebsd to install desktop environments: desktop-installer that simplifies things, but still it couldn't really finish in my vm.
@glowiak3430
@glowiak3430 3 жыл бұрын
I use FreeBSD 13.0-BETA4 on my laptop btw
@szcsaba101
@szcsaba101 Жыл бұрын
Can it be installed offline? I see that I can install all programs on freebsd from the command line or with octopkg. But is it possible without the Internet? So I download the program on an online machine and then transfer it to an offline machine and there?
@lands1459
@lands1459 3 жыл бұрын
i followed this video but i get "can't find boot/kernel/kernel", i've never touched BSD before so i don't understand what went wrong.
@rhwinner
@rhwinner 3 жыл бұрын
How is wireless card support? Is it like the bad ol days of Linux? That would be an impediment to me trying to install it...
@yonnemulation
@yonnemulation 3 жыл бұрын
I used freeBSD for gaming.
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for beeing the "BTW I run..." but I use OpenBSD for gaming.
@zaccheusthegreat
@zaccheusthegreat 2 жыл бұрын
When I try to install "Xorg" on my desktop, it said, "failed to extract pkg-static; failed to create directory". What does it mean ?
@hamzanihad8590
@hamzanihad8590 Жыл бұрын
How can i be like you ???!!! You're my legend ...
@archuser7607
@archuser7607 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@zedovski
@zedovski 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dt would be great if you can do a demonstration of installing Xmonad or Qtile on FreeBSD? Would be great to see how viable a platform it could be as a daily driver
3 жыл бұрын
"Is this TWM? I hope not..."
@phildem414
@phildem414 3 жыл бұрын
What about NetBSD 9.2, with ctwm has standard now?
@LilMissKaori
@LilMissKaori 3 жыл бұрын
Hey DT. I have been watching your channel for awhile. I currently run Arch, but i was wondering can you dual boot freebsd + arch or no?
@shubhanshutomar7940
@shubhanshutomar7940 3 жыл бұрын
may as well try in a VM
@LilMissKaori
@LilMissKaori 3 жыл бұрын
​@@shubhanshutomar7940 true
@osrcwithrao3110
@osrcwithrao3110 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZDPpWecmc6Wm7M
@jj-kf9wo
@jj-kf9wo 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! _ | liked this.
@woolfy02
@woolfy02 2 ай бұрын
I'm trying to install the latest version of freebsd on my ThinkPad T495 (AMD graphics) but keep getting this error: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0. It Keep saying it's "Giant locked" and I can't seem to get past that. Anyone else figure out how to fix this? Dragonflybsd seems to install fine, which is strange. I've tried to disable the trackpad in the bios and have used a USB keyboard / mouse but, that didn't work. (also tried older versions of freebsd, which does nothing). Arch linux has no issues installing if that helps.
@kychemclass5850
@kychemclass5850 3 жыл бұрын
DT could you do a video on installing "tar" like files or .deb files. and how to use the make command I had to download some packages (window style) and can't really get it to run properly after extracting the downloaded file. I'm sure you know what I'm trying to describe. It's probably a noob issue.
@voiceoftreason1760
@voiceoftreason1760 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is much point in trying to run FreeBSD as a desktop, especially considering the FreeBSD devs are typically developing on Macbooks running macOS. It might be a nice base for networking and storage servers though. I don't really understand how running a webserver on it can be useful as almost all webserver software is in the linux world. OpenBSD seems more interesting to me although I haven't been able to get it running on my old laptop, only in a VM
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 3 жыл бұрын
What can you list as part of "almost all webserver software is in the linux world"? I'm curious, maybe I can pass a message to the senior developer and get things rolling...
@voiceoftreason1760
@voiceoftreason1760 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoboNuggie look up LAMP
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 3 жыл бұрын
@@voiceoftreason1760 Yes, in FreeBSD it's called FAMP...same software - I did a video on it. FreeBSD Apache Mysql PHP... all those and more is available.... I'll ask you, can Linux do Boot Environments with ZFS on Root?
@cstephan7
@cstephan7 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoboNuggie Good to see you. Lots of misinformation around here, including, most regretfully, in the original video itself. Perhaps you could make a polite response to this video, thanking DT for using his large, great channel to discuss FreeBSD but correcting some issues. Above all, the matter of calling the new 13-RELEASE "the latest stable" is (of course) highly misleading, as all of us desktop and SOHO users are definitely going to want binary upgrades and, therefore, need to stick to RELEASE rather than STABLE (which is more 'beta,' to use DT's language--and requires updates from source!). But of course, this is not DT's wheelhouse, and DistroTube is a great resource for many, many things that are transferable to other Unix-like OSes, including FreeBSD.
@RoboNuggie
@RoboNuggie 3 жыл бұрын
@@cstephan7 I do like DT, and I understand that if FreeBSD isn't your everyday driver, phrase errors or lack of inner knowledge can creep in - it would be the same if I did a Linux video, no doubt I would have a baying mob after me.... so I'm not correcting him per say, but the comments that come where outlandish 'facts' are spouted verbatim from message boards the commentators have seen...etc.
@monolofiminimal
@monolofiminimal 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Fbsd on my real old ass hardware (I even had a 286 running it at one point but it had to retire). I only use it with two network cards as a firewall using PF which takes care of most of the port forwarding so I have two diff internal lan networks (one coming from the modem/router side, and the 2nd one behind the fbsd box). I've been considering switching the current desktop running it with a raspberry pi because of power consumption but I need to redo the firewall/port fowarding again if I decide to put a linux distro on it. *nix is fun and helpful and (mostly) works with whatever you throw at it.
@sda3611
@sda3611 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should make more BSD content
@betablockrr
@betablockrr Жыл бұрын
How do I do it with SDDM and add myself to the video
@pguti778
@pguti778 3 жыл бұрын
Freebsd is like Linux around 30 years ago, right?
@vorrnth8734
@vorrnth8734 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong!
@ihakker1416
@ihakker1416 3 жыл бұрын
Very very wrong
@falx966
@falx966 3 жыл бұрын
Right, that's why is the choice of Netflix, cuz it's like GNU/Linux 30 years ago. How stupid.
@illusioon1569
@illusioon1569 3 жыл бұрын
Problem with Freebsd is that you lack too much drivers... also widevine(google) doesn't work at all, games are another problem too...
@NonameEthereal
@NonameEthereal 3 жыл бұрын
I kept breaking at "strong and complicated password" *tok* *tok* :D
@little-wytch
@little-wytch 3 жыл бұрын
By the way DT... have you ever tried a shell called "Elvish" before? If so, what do you think of it?
@LaurentiusTriarius
@LaurentiusTriarius 2 жыл бұрын
The first non windows os I installed in my life was freebsd in the 1990s. I must say I didn't try it since, time to poke the demons.
@kartikeykushwaha3622
@kartikeykushwaha3622 3 жыл бұрын
It's not UNIX-like, IT IS UNIX.
@TheMostTruth
@TheMostTruth 3 жыл бұрын
"Systems that have been licensed to use the UNIX trademark include AIX, EulerOS, HP-UX, Inspur K-UX, IRIX, macOS, Solaris, Tru64 UNIX (formerly "Digital UNIX", or OSF/1),and z/OS. Notably, EulerOS and Inspur K-UX are Linux distributions certified as UNIX 03 compliant." Or is this not correct? Would that not also make FreeBSD UNIX like, or maybe UNIX compliant? EDIT:: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#Currently_registered_UNIX_systems
@lawrencedoliveiro9104
@lawrencedoliveiro9104 3 жыл бұрын
“UNIX” is officially a trademark which none of the BSDs or Linuxes are licensed to use.
@kartikeykushwaha3622
@kartikeykushwaha3622 3 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Well legally it isn't, but it is as much Unix as Solaris, HP-UX, or any of the other commercial versions that have paid to be able to be legally called Unix.
@SintaxBSD
@SintaxBSD 3 жыл бұрын
does freebsd not come packaged with doas?
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 3 жыл бұрын
Not out of the box.
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