Abbotsford homeless encampment residents push back

[@CH-sl1yd]

she is more concerned about words than she is about danger and violence.

[@420villain]

Has to follow professional journalism ethics

[@charlesward9486]

@@420villain LOL! Professional journalism ethics, it's CBC. Those ethics don't exist there!

[@O.G.NickyScarfo]

My sentiments exactly....so annoying

[@Tucker1796]

​@@420villainnah she just works for the cbc

[@mugushi54]

The deconstructionist brain parasite is always concerned more about words than reality. Their only path to power. Not her directly, but the well-intended average lefty that thinks they are doing the right thing. Conforming to "rebels" who are now safe to transgress.

[@Davedimmensions]

She’s worried about it being called a violent encampment, while using a burned down RV as a backdrop…

[@AndreaS-bn6zl]

I lived in this encampment for 5 years and addiction and mental health issues are the root of the problem. It’s extremely hard to get help if your trying to get out of that world and more housing won’t help. The amount of drug usage in the shelters and low income housing is insane. It is definitely very violent and everyone rips one another off and uses machetes or bear mace against each other. I’m one of the lucky ones to get out and stay clean and have full time employment

[@laidlawnakixo]

There are two types of homeless people. Drug addicts and people that work but cant afford rent. Clearly this place is not safe and it's not the only one. These are everywhere. Homelessness is a billion dollar industry and it's not going anywhere. In fact, it's getting worse.

[@NatureBoyBC]

I was homeless in my car for ywo years in the valley I got myself out of it and into a place last summer. I never parked there or any place even close to this place or any like it. I would park where i was not a nuisance, and i got up every morning and got myself to work. I didnt leave a disaster behind and even to the surprise of my employer who had no idea of my situation until the floods in 2021 did not suspect i was struggling to get my feet back on the ground. The voices that are being ignored are the many people i know and have met that ate forced into cars vans and rvs that are elderly and on pensions or disabilities that don't keep up to the cost of living now. I can work and i can fight to help myself but these peoples vouces are not being heard. That older guy in his RV there...Hes one of those many unheard ppl. I've spoke to him before. And btw i am a recovered addict...I was an addict 30 years ago on these same streets. I got myself clean in 1993 and I've never looked back. It was all very hard to accomplish ...i shared my addiction stories and recovery with addicts on these streets. Every one i spoke with was trying to ..and wanting to get clean but simply unable to go that extra mile. I hope i planted seeds with those ppl. Gave them some hope to want to save their lives. There is a huge stigmatization on homeless and I felt it first hand. Its quite disheartening to know your being looked on as an addict just because your in your car while you are a 30 yr recovered addict who works and abides by the law. There so many facets to the problem from addictions to ppl simply falling thru the cracks. I really take serious exception to once illicit dangerous drugs being allowed into the streets. That is simply enabling addiction instrad of intervention and help. How did i find myself homeless? I moved back here from provinces away and there was a blunder with my 2 yrs of holiday pay at my last job that had me still on payroll which inhibited me getting hired with the same company here in BC and getting my holiday pay which was for my deposit and rent. The other money i had i was now forced to live off until the matter was straightened out. And as i found out many ppl are not to keen to rent to a clean cut working guy who fell on hard times and wound up living in his car...seems a slight stigma is attached to that so i couldnt rent nowhere until i found ppl who didnt have blinders on. Life is much better now thank God.

[@phoenixman8569]

That is quite a story, and it's good you doing the best you can even in difficult situations, however this is a different story altogether, the drugs out there now like fentanyl are much stronger by far than any drug from the 80s and 90s making addicts today go crazy. Fighting, fires, stabbings and way to many 911 calls for overdosing, many often refuse help and shelters or anything that stops them from getting thier next fix, I do however applaud your choice for sobriety, and you feel like it's your duty to defend people on the street now, but again situations our there now are like day an night, far different from when you were in that situation, dispite being addicted you were still clear headed enough to choose help, but today this fentanyl affects the mind on a whole other level than even the strongest forms of cocaine and heroin a couple decades ago and when you are offered help and refuse it, sadly you are mostly beyond help, I know there are a few like the older man in the motor home struggling to get a place to live but he only in the small percentile while most others are so addicted to fentanyl they sadly become a lost cause...

[@jacobuszwanenburg1629]

I congratulate you on your efforts You deserve a pat on the back as the addiction struggles are very real

[@markoehlerlind]

This reporter is a clown, trying to discredit the police and the facts..hey why don't you live there for a month..then do a report..typical cbc garbage.

[@NatureBoyBC]

@b v Thank you!

[@jasondrummond9451]

Thank you for mentioning the plight of the elderly and disabled. No one - least of all the government - gives a FF about them. Except to offer them MAID when they beg for help to live.

[@FrancesHart99]

Drug users will always bring crime, violence, intimidation, and property damage. You need to get rid of the users.

[@KodakRose]

Most drug users have good incomes and careers, you know the multi billion dollar drug industry is not sustained by homeless people. No poor person is buying real heroin or any cocaine for example.

[@aj420ca]

@@KodakRose lol

[@700K-pp9wm]

@@KodakRoseinsufferable liberal

[@derekd1510]

@@700K-pp9wm condescending fascist

[@wanghui562]

The reporter strikes me as clueless... Worries about the reputation of the homeless, doesn't worry about the danger they pose to themselves and others.

[@gailflorence2007]

Twenty something. No life experience. And dumb

[@cornstar1253]

We used to call them hobos.

[@f.mazz.459]

Ya, get her to walk thru that encampment at night when the mayor's security and police chief are not there. Maybe she'll change her tune

[@headbanger5556]

Those people would pick her bones clean like a piece of chicken. She doesnt have a clue about the actual world.

[@lulabloom4636]

the price of basic housing is a true crime

[@Spirit_Bear2]

If the dregs stopped spending all their money on smokes, drugs, and booze they would have money

[@animalmother5287]

Thank the criminal real estate boards inflating prices

[@shauncameron8390]

@@animalmother5287 No. Thank the government and their restrictive zoning laws.

[@cornstar1253]

Then move to somewhere less expensive. It's a big country

[@lulabloom4636]

@@cornstar1253 everywhere's expensive now, do you get out much?

[@koobea4859]

Let's not call violence what it is. That will fix everything!

[@wanghui562]

If you don't name it as violence, violence doesn't exist. Media Logic 101

[@toddarmstrong1909]

The reporter shows up with security "I don't usually role with such a big posse" then turns around and says "why is the local government and police force using that label?" Hypocracy much?

[@nastybeaver4906]

You are 100% right

[@tomasoc1960]

You have your security? She understands the irony of that statement right? This is the most left wing new piece from CBC I have seen in a long time. I would love to see her stay a week on camera at this encampment. She understands that labels can be put to use to describe her right?

[@Tucker1796]

"Violence has quadrupled since 2015" -Police "Do u think its more violent here?.... I prefer anecdotal evidence over statistics" - Reporter

[@LuckkyCanuck]

Of course the CBC journalist is more concerned with stigmatizing the violent criminals, than the violence itself.

[@mastiffsrme]

CBC you are beyond help! Yes let's not hurt the violent peoples feelings

[@IamSteady1]

"I had no where else to go" is so untrue. He has a MOBILE home. There are a million places in BC to discretely park a travel trailer. He wants to be there...for some reason.

[@saifonlawrence2044]

CBC report...say no more.

[@MrBigtime2]

This reporter more worried about language used, such as "violent".... Same reporter needs security during the daytime, homeless with axes and machetes, someone shot last week, covered in zombies... The reporter IS THE PROBLEM 🤬

[@charlesward9486]

Animals don't live that badly! Time to clean up this mess up and haul that trash away!

[@zeballos5757]

They did. All gone now and looking clean and tidy

[@darrentylor5473]

People need to worry less about the words used to describe a person in a situation and more about what put these people into the situation in the first place. More importantly how to solve it! If its been called the most violent encampment, you need to remember that is relative to other encampments and is based on statistics you won't ever see... Thanks for getting the word from the people...

[@duelenigma7732]

I would say Lien has a preconceived impression she is trying to promote . That is not journalism .

[@Jon.Morimoto]

Do you expect real journalism from the CBC?

[@erichorrobin431]

Is this woman insane. Talking about the language of violent encampment. Like oh you can't call them violent. Then she says got my security here. Fire this woman for God's sake. It is violent encampment. What a silly PC woman.

[@mrwadenielsen1]

Go back at night without security.

[@edwardnigma653]

A bit confused... Her immediate & seemingly primary issue is the "language" being used, not if there are facts to substanciate the language being used? Frequency of police calls? Frequency of fire calls? Per square ft incident calls compared to maybe other encampents? (giving us, not 100% accurate, but something to compare to). Interviews/stories from the police/firefighters? If we simply take the word of people saying "yeah things are good here, don't know what they're talking about" -then why do we need "investigative journalism". Educate the viewers with facts>feelings, this should not be an opinion piece or an attempt to make a serious topic (homelesness) a feel good story. #feedback #journalism #factsoverfeelings

[@angeschannel73]

This is my hometown 😢 it's sad to see its gotten the way it is now

[@Roscoe_357]

Yeah Looks REALLY Bad.. (Sarcasm)

[@jonathanrussell6352]

Homeless are not criminals remember that 😊

[@rachelk8368]

The minister of housing is a joke. Most MLAs and MPs have second and third and more investment properties.

[@gailflorence2007]

No one can live for free. Move on.Go north. Find work. Get off the sauce. Earn your way like the rest of us

[@PhilMante]

Used to live in Abby for 6 months, that particular location is a greasy, greasy area.

[@charlier1443]

I am a big supporter of CBC. But holy snap! This reporter is making it hard... Need for security. Burnt vehicules. Yup... No violence here.

[@KD-qp3gc]

You don't have a residence if you are a vagrant. Camping does not constitute residency. Making the taxpaying locals responsible for these homeless ppl trashing their neighborhoods and making it unsafe for them is ridiculous.

[@Mr.HieuVu]

This reporter lives in la la Land. If it's a violent encampment then you call it a violent encampment. To sugar coated it or spread sunshine and butterflies around the description of the encampment would only endanger the surrounding people and first responders. Maybe she can come up with a more significant and effective resolution to the encampment than just a pathetic attempt to change verbiage. What a joke!?

[@whitfieldsealy]

"So nobody has tried to cut your head off with a machete ?" So u feel safe right ?

[@fmj136]

Put the drug addicts into incarceration and into treatment programs. The remaining homeless need Safe, Secure, Affordable Subsidized Apartments to get them off the Streets and to hopefully minimize, if not, stop the crimes. Edit: ...to also give the non-addicted homeless therapy, training, and gainful employment.

[@rebeccamcguire2798]

Your stigmatizing every homeless person not every homes less person is addicted ….. this is what they were talking about didn’t u hear a man lost his home due to brain injury this is more common then ppl want to addmit that disbled sick and the elderly are put out of there homes low incomed ppl loose there jobs like seriously not helpful attitude when it just isn’t the drug and schoolgirl dependant ppl who are and all ways have been homeless

[@rebeccamcguire2798]

So some if not all of that population can’t work or do a job safly …. That’s ableist if I’ve ever read it

[@iwilltrytotry]

you did it. you really did it! you solved homelessness, and i can't believe how easy it was! you should take your act-- i mean... your "plan"-- on the road.

[@fmj136]

@@rebeccamcguire2798 Which also means that the medically injured, the disabled, the elderly, the low income ppl who have lost their jobs, and the ppl who have been always been homeless, need the medical treatment, rehabilitation, and training to help them have gainful employment. Otherwise, what would be your solution to help them? No one wants them to stay homeless. Pls provide some ideas. Thanks.

[@Jon.Morimoto]

​@@fmj136 The drug-homeless industrial complex would like the problem to continue. The problem means government $$ for grants and paycheques. Solving the problem would stop the gravy train!

[@Hu-uw4hz]

Hope that old man finds somewhere soon

[@gailflorence2007]

Why do they leave such a fricking mess!

[@jacobuszwanenburg1629]

“Know about circumstances “ …. We all go through circumstances. There comes a time to just suck it up and carry on living Existing in a garbage dump behaving like an animal is not moving forward. How the heck do some pay for a cell phone , cig’s and pot but can’t pay a room or ….?!? I’m no rich guy just was told by my folks to DO something as life ain’t free

[@newguycanada]

Bam. Here is the biggest reason why nothing can get done about this. We are more concerned about hurting violent leeches on society's feelings.

[@moosefactorymullet]

Homeless people would get more slack if they weren’t such slobs. Garbage fences and burnt out hovels draw contempt. I think if they were tidy and clean, crafted art, repaired things, played musical instruments, and engaged with their host societies in a respectful manner, they wouldn’t be treated as enemies.

[@shasa8223]

She reallllly wants it to not be unsafe! Not exactly good or ethical reporting.

[@420villain]

Some of it looks like Ukraine war zone

[@mikecook4322]

Blame yourselves, you voted the people in that don't do anything about the problems.

[@Tribuneoftheplebs]

She's lost in the woke sauce. Her: "Are you sure its actually violent here? Are you sure its not just the reputation?" Them: "We use the machetes for self defense." 🤣💀

[@newbeginning1510]

That’s why she has a job with the media. 🐑

[@Tribuneoftheplebs]

​​@@LiseWrigley machetes to cut wood 🤔 Imagine believing that 🤣 machetes are too thin for that. They are only good for slashing people

[@Tribuneoftheplebs]

​@@LiseWrigley lefties just believe any nonsensical lie a strung out addict tells them 😂

[@canadianlove2128]

Ain’t no way they paid for them flowers though. Literally saying they aren’t criminals 😂

[@jonathonclarke52]

Completely biased reporting. Try and live near one of these neighbourhoods. Your big assed security did not escape notice.

[@enidmiller5934]

The place is disgusting. City dumps are cleaner. I always wondered why the city has never put in garbage cans for the people there to use and keep it clean. Then a few days ago they finally brought in a garbage container for people to start cleaning up in there. Kind of wonder if they knew this reporter was coming.

[@hap3846]

They wouldnt use it anyways

[@joemama-xw1jh]

“I’ve seen this going on” HER: “ do you think that’s because people are telling you that you feel that way” This woman is stunned beyond belief

[@Tony-pk6ql]

Why is anyone surprised? Thank you Justin for where you have led this country.

[@rdavis7350]

Wow, a cbc report that allows comments!

[@maryparker67]

I seen another video she did on homeless and it seems she picks the places where not much is happening ,Hey little girl go where the druggies are and the VIOLENCE is ,or are you scared..without security like some other independant media go...!!

[@JohnDoe12515]

That's ok. I'm sure Trudeau cares about these Canadians

[@allanthomas6097]

Thr cop tell the truth

[@itsa-itsagames]

well those people should be working if they are working then he should be demanding that they be allowed to rent a place at reasonable levels

[@janicewalker477]

I’d be very interested in knowing the ethnicity/race of the machete wielding thugs. Why did she try to make the place seem less dangerous and shape the gentleman’s answer.

[@atheistpower5659]

This Reporter was so bias and bad at her job I could not believe most of what she was talking about she is part of the problem not the solution !

[@neuralismgamingtv4511]

This is the first reporter I've ever heard on this situation that actually has a spine. The question is do you?

[@atheistpower5659]

@@neuralismgamingtv4511 Meh !

[@MrBigtime2]

​@@neuralismgamingtv4511 She also has to have security 😂. She's not sticking around here

[@jjhomie8893]

Fail reporter, send someone who actually knows what they’re talking about.

[@user9b2]

But the issue is there are violence there.

[@ancormane524]

I fixed a truck there man holy amount of junkies

[@Devoidarex]

This is reporting with a bias. Couldn't be more obvious.

[@cheungnth]

Highly recommend a book called Sanfransicko. A lot of “meant well” policies don’t work because the policy makers aren’t stepping into the shoes of the homeless/addicts. They make policies that help no one and waste tax dollars.

[@Grimmstyle]

Worried about them being labeled. How about worry about them being on drugs with no actual place to live. Go and embed yourself in the lonzo parkland ride for a few nights and see how Worried she is about labels

[@scaremydemonghoulson6329]

Real reporting, very refreshing

[@JJ-cf4gz]

"Hey is it Dan ? I am a left wing reporter (story teller) from the CBC, here to dictate the narrative at the tax payers expense".

[@alohaohana901]

That reporter is not one pay cheque away from being homeless....that is ridiculous. And if a person's house burns down, there is something called insurance. And what does she mean she "is normally a truck driver, but now she looks after her disabled boyfriend"? None of that makes sense.

[@neuralismgamingtv4511]

It makes perfect sense. Your life probably doesn't.

[@alohaohana901]

@@neuralismgamingtv4511 Oh...you must be homeless using some else's computer if you think she made sense.

[@kaitlinjohn3625]

I feel she cherry picked the most approachable looking person there (I mean come on, he addressed the officer by "sir", and lives out of the shadows in a well kept unit), I wouldn't be surprised if she headed it with something to the effect of "I'm trying to draw sympathy for these people, can I interview you to destigmatize and show they aren't all violent" because when asked about them he says "they aren't violent but when asked how he feels living there he follows up with that he's scared. The mayor is right. The officers are right. Facts are facts. My heart breaks for the people who are victims in that situation, but no amount of charity changes that some of the people there are violent and are a hazard to the people around them.

[@ChrisHearn]

This really is some bad reporting. She went in with a bias and didnt budge on it.

[@elizabethhurtado2829]

It's a financial issue because of inflation and rotten investors

[@rebeccamcguire2798]

Wasn’t there a housing scandals a few weeks back of corruption in there gears income place idk I hope there is justic

[@clarifyingquestions]

It is a mental health problem/drug addicts and no amount of housing will solve that

[@zshn]

Shut the door. we're here worried about our safety and you're worried about language. Go back to school and learn journalism. The city needs to clean it up asap. Let the mayor and police do their work.

[@ChaNnArD-mD]

Fun Fact: in the original Resident Evil 4 the residents carried ''axes and machetes''

[@edocms]

Just put all drug addicts in a jail with mechanized cleaning and give them all the drugs if they want till they die of overdose. Or, they can choose to stay sober and leave the jail whenever they are certified detoxed and clean.

[@rosetealatte9282]

I am so damn sick of hearing people play semantics because of stupid wording. Its absolutely ridiculous that this reporter thinks she knows more than the POLICE who have seen firsthand what violence is in that place, and feels entitled to pass judgement. She should be fired for trying to push woke ideologies rather than reporting the news.

[@ChrisHearn]

Sad when a reporter needs security to do a story...and then she is concerned about the language that is being used!!!!??? Talk about complete disconnect.

[@ancormane524]

This is for trucks man not junkies

[@Creashone]

Abbotsford and Chilliwack used to be places we would stop as a family, on our way to Vancouver. Not any more. Last time we went there were no locks on public toilets because they needed to get overdosing people out of the toilet on a regular basis. We saw an unwashed guy screaming and smacking himself in the face while sitting on the ground of a regular car lot business. It was terrifying. We are not planning to come back to this area ever. Other than to get gas if we need it. Although I understand that woman is right. This could happen to anyone given the right set of unfortunate experiences.

[@kalithj]

is she a reporter or trying to prove her point?

[@flodareltih9825]

Just relocate them to Nunavut.

[@001sander2]

Poverty is violence.

[@maydayhomestead]

Not only was this my home town - but my mom was part of that camp and now the whole camp is fenced off and the folks had no where to go. I haven’t seen my mom since they put up the fencing. Where will folks live this winter? It’s getting colder and I worry every day.

[@BrianMichaluk]

biased interviewer leading questions and preexisting assumptions

[@daryllect6659]

4:51 - "I need ore holes in my face".

[@zeballos5757]

Just went by there today. Completely cleaned up, fresh gravel over the lot, blue fence around the entire property, security guard in a car. Not a trace of what was there when this video was filmed. In fact I have seen it look way worse in the past than this video shows. All cleaned up now. I can’t wait to gtfo of Abbotsford. What a depressing hell hole this is. Worst place I’ve ever lived.

[@robertdobie8680]

“Since 2015, our violent crime rates have quadrupled,” said the police officer. And yet, the police and government persist in “labeling” and “stigmatizing” the community by calling it a dangerous place to live. Instead of this kind of unfair rhetoric, it should be called a “safe” and “welcoming” community so that its residents feel better about themselves. Then everything will be okay. 🙄

[@neuralismgamingtv4511]

Meanwhile people are moving out of upper middle-class neighborhoods because their neighbouring homeowners are dealing and getting into gun fights so children can't walk down the street anymore...

[@johnnnyk]

The government solution is to have CbC normalizing living on the street. The liberal government knows these encampments are gonna get a lot bigger in the coming years

[@TheMcgojoh]

So, on the one hand the Police chief say violent crime has quadrupled since 2015(convenient date, but a denizen of the encampment says it's not violent at all.

[@AdmiralAdam100]

This has to be the worst reporting I've ever seen. What happened to unbiased facts instead of reporting individualistic points of views?

[@paulipuhakka8788]

This part of Abby has been like this for sometime now! They started under Hwy 1, along the railway, then eventually squeezed out the semis parked there. Now it's a garbage dump! It's an eyesore! To think that every human being has a choice to go in whatever direction in life! Which way did you go?

[@noelgeollegue260]

It means your drug control program is not working.

[@scrumtrellecent]

Don't Blow It Keep It Simple Count Your Money

[@edwardmellow5824]

My friend's great grandmother was brutally raped there by drugged up thugs.

[@robertehatten4847]

Homelessness is a failure of the government……

[@christopherbalmer350]

tell it like it is and do what needs to be done out of love, regardless of the pushback. If its right, DO IT.

[@KenDavies-qv3fs]

All the drug infested criminal group should be removed from all services and all effort to the real homeless.

[@1har2vey3]

The housing standards are to high so when folk don't qualify these makeshift camps happens. Why can't there be people barns just to keep the down and out sheltered and out of sight.

[@Daniel-u6r2x]

That one RV probably had a furnace or stove fire. Say they just lit it on fire sets false pretense of lawlessness.

[@grantbablitz]

I attempted to offer two tiny houses to Edmonton homeless that I designed and built. Unfortunately the Neoliberal Regime does not allow even solidarity with the poor in Slum Dog Soji's Neo Liberal Democratic Paradise.

[@Azel247]

Not everyone is one paycheck away from homelessness... that's ridiculous. That kind of mentality and lack of hope keeps people from getting out of a bad situation.

[@neuralismgamingtv4511]

Just about my entire family history in recent decades has told me that's not ridiculous.

[@Azel247]

@@neuralismgamingtv4511 That's just it. A person's lived experience becomes their reality. Your history and experiences are valid, but that does not mean it applies to everybody. To break free from a bad situation, one must first believe it is possible. If not, they won't even begin to try. To say that everyone is one paycheck away from homeless is indeed ridiculous. The majority of people are not even close to that level of vulnerability... did we see mass homelessness during COVID when people stopped getting paychecks? Believing your situation is normal and the people who succeed simply "got lucky" will stop them from trying to make their living situation better.

[@davemcansh5265]

@@Azel247 According to a 2021 paper "Seeking shelter: homelessness and COVID-19" over 1.7 million Canadians, which is roughly 4.5% of Canada, live within a core subsistence income range. Meaning they are the group which is most susceptible to even minor disruptions to their income. By all accounts there was a significant increase of people experiencing homelessness during COVID. Unfortunately in most municipalities, "homeless counts" were cancelled during the pandemic and so quantifiable evidence is difficult to come across. However in the U.S. there were reports that, during the pandemic, for the first time in recent history rates of folks experiencing unsheltered homelessness overtook rates of those experiencing sheltered homelessness. The latest "homeless count" in Vancouver took place this past March and won't be available till later in the year. Qualitative evidence, however, still indicates the pandemic had a major impact on rates of people experiencing homelessness for the first time, and that was with unprecedented federal mandates such as eviction moratoriums and loans in the form of CERB payments.

[@zshn]

Take notes people, this is what biased and loaded with an agenda journalism looks like.

[@TerrieLeeBirston]

I know this place and ide sleep in an alley before ide stay there!!

[@peterpietrzak1253]

The ones they interviewed there at 5:59 sound like they were drug addicts a little?

[@jazziez6467]

Bus some of those migrants out of Cali to Vancover BC, they would welcome them with open arms

[@elizabethhurtado2829]

They walk together so they have witnesses