JonBenet Ramsey's Brother Breaks Silence 20 Years After Her Murder

[@CaseyAngelicaHardy]

There’s something very off about the whole family.

[@Altyno296]

It would mess someone up in the head if their own sibling/daughter was murdered

[@oliveannklein]

Alton G exactly

[@JinxPropaganda]

Casey Hardy ikr!

[@LoLo-oo6qp]

I agree!!!!!!!

[@vwchick24]

There’s always been something terribly wrong with this whole case. The police screwed it all up. The dad finding her was bizarre. Why go look in a weird place of the house with a window no one could fit through? I’ve always felt patsy did it or knew about it. The note on the stationary was from them. The lie detector test coming back inconclusive. Just so many weird things that give more questions than answers. Patsys karma, dying of ovarian cancer. I think the parents are monsters. The boy (man) is probably fucked in the head after all of this.

[@dhhusorry3584]

It’s weird to think that at least one person in the world knows exactly what happened

[@kendallmcbay2992]

Dude I was just thinking that

[@gregdahlen4375]

if they're still alive

[@Torontoista]

Dhhu Sorry and that person is...

[@iamm0ra]

i always think that and another thing is what if there was a video of all crimes and we could just watch them

[@Hi-so5rs]

Torontoista JOHN CENA!!!!!!

[@jmaki360]

The saddest part is that the little girl never got the justice she deserves

[@monikakenderes6741]

Where are those world famous psychics who are said to help police catch criminals? Not one of them stepped up to solve this case!!!! Yet, they are raking in the millions. This is why I believe they are all fake. If there were at least ONE genuine psychic on this planet, he/she would've solved this case. It's received so much press, that I don't know anyone who doesn't know who JonBenet Ramsey is.

[@taiylord7067]

Melody Rogers umm Burke was 9 years old when she was killed... how did he run off to college RIGHT after her death exactly?

[@melodyrogers9473]

@@taiylord7067 RIGHT! Now that you mention it. I can have swore i heard that when the story came out. I thought, isn't this obvious?? The whole thing just doesn't make sense. Who was it?? Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[@SandraMontano-si3uf]

There are real phycics ,but all these cristal ball palm readers are really just just for entertainment , like at carnivals. They don't know anything.Just silly

[@Kissesmom1]

@@taiylord7067 sometimes you have to just keep living life because if you don't you could end up being so depressed that once you loose a family member in this fashion it could possibly cause you to take your one life 💔

[@cchharlie]

The note was written with the family’s own pen, and the note is damn long. Can you imagine the murderer just leaving the body in the basement and then sitting somewhere in the house writing a freaking letter This murder was 100% committed by someone in the family

[@monkas7270]

Burke did it and his parents helped cover it up for him not knowing he wouldn’t be charged for the crime under Colorado since he was only 9.

[@derekw1267]

@@monkas7270 then who raped her?

[@Jesoui98]

Excatly, and then you need to first find a pen inside the home. If it was an intruder, this murder would not be spontaneous and therfor the note would be written beforehand.

[@Thebeautiful11]

I can't imagine a stranger spending that much time killing and assaulting her in the house.

[@adrialee8149]

Agreed 💯

[@j.k.asbill6131]

He does not act like a 29 year old man.. he seems very strange, more like a 12 year old would talk.

[@rebecca75588]

Jill Asbill I somewhat agree but there is a form of PTSD where you act weird like this.furthermore,the crime is waaaaay too violent if it was just over a piece of pineapple.they always say Overkill is definitely from someone u know though idk it's a real who dunnit remember though foreign DNA on her drawers

[@shanad4975]

Probably because they hypnotized and shut him up as he endure the same abuse as she did

[@titanium_woman722]

He was a kid when this happened. He will forever be stuck in time. He's traumatized for life.

[@JustBeYouooh]

total sweetheart yeah possibly. I did think of that.

[@DS-pi3wm]

Its called dissociative identity disorder. He was abused too. Thats why he acts like that, his personality is literally fragmented. Now imagine he is being blamed for a crime they say he committed when he was 9 years old when he clearly knew old men were responsible and faced it himself. And now has to shut up for fear of his life. Wouldnt you act strange in his shoes?

[@emma-cl9lz]

He is.....very strange. Not like a man, hes like a little boy. He's got stuck sometime in his life. Very strange...especially his eyes.

[@darrylwellman1839]

He has trauma toi and been told not to say anything by the Father ..Patsy too was forced to write that ransom note So easy for sociopaths to make others look in the opposite direction ..and therefore blame the innocent brother who might be suffering from Trauma from abuse ..likely too

[@shirleyrice7093]

Of course he got stuck. His little sister was murdered most horribly in her, and his own home. Could he ever feel safe again? His parents were accused of the murder and suffered terribly. Even he was suspected and had to go be questioned. They could not even live normally. Losing a family member at a young age is a terrible trauma, and his trauma was horrible. He has beautiful eyes, and like his sister and parents is extraordinarily good looking.

[@susanligon6721]

It would be extremely hard to understand what he has gone through at night. No one in the family would have killed he at Christmas.Brother was severely traumatize. You don’t get over it. My father died from an accident. It effects you more than you know. I was extremely close to my father. My life was never the same. I was just turning 13. He seem close to his sister. His whole life probably took a flash like mine did that my life would be gone. You just do the movements like you should do in life but that flash will take away a large part from that that you will never get away.

[@itzyofav_bai9225]

@@gilliandowney5225 he’s not autistic.

[@AtipicamenteCrime]

He is autistic.

[@martinaskupin9549]

Child beauty contests shouldn´t be allowed.

[@halaa3565]

True

[@clairew4829]

I agree

[@louissimutenda]

attracts paedophils

[@JustBeYouooh]

I agree.. It's a paedophiles paradise. Evil!

[@lotuscream7826]

I so agree dressing kids/babies up in grown folks clothes nawl im not feeling that fucking pervs

[@th33399]

So the note was written on their notepad, the strangulation device was made by rope and paint brushes from their home. It is ridiculous to think that the "intruder" would sit and write that 2 and a half pages long note or make that murder weapon like he has all the time in the world. Someone in this family or all of them were involved. Burke killed her and his parents protected him.

[@annabelleproductionsofficial]

The Burke theory makes no sense. I think an intruder did it due to majority of the evidence pointing to an intruder, but even the theory that John or Patsy killed her makes more sense then Burke. The strangulation came first. There were marks on her neck that matched perfectly with her fingernails and showed that she tried to pull the rope away from her neck and try to save her own life. If the head injury came first, she would not have been able to do this. She would have been unconscious. If she somehow had any consciousness, she would have been in too much pain to move and wouldn't have had the strength to try and pull the rope away from her neck. Nine year olds are strong, but not strong enough to strangle her like how she was strangled, so there's no way he could have strangled her either. She was strangled by a grown man. The DNA also ruled out the entire family. It was found on her underwear, pajama pants, under her nails, and on other pieces of evidence that haven't been released yet. The DNA couldn't have come from a manufacturer because it was washed multiple times, were not from the same manufacturer, and were under her nails and on other pieces of unreleased evidence. There's no other way for the DNA to get there other than an intruder. There was also the unidentified hand print on the doorknob on the door left a jar by the basement cell grate and the unidentified palm print left by her body. The basement cell grate was disturbed, the window under it was opened with a scuff mark on the wall, and a suitcase was below the window with broken glass from the window on top of it. On the suitcase was a Hi-Tec footprint, and another also found by her body. Fibers from the pajamas she wore that night and her hair were found inside that suitcase, which means she was in there sometime that night and was possibly almost transported outside of the house that night. She had stun-gun marks on her body too, and the Ramseys did not own a stun-gun. The rope used to strangle her was not found in the house, and neither was the duct tape that was on her mouth. On the duct tape on her mouth, there was fur from a beaver, and the Ramseys did not have any beaver fur in the house. The ransom note's handwriting also did not match Patsy or John's. Many people think Patsy's handwriting is very similar to the ransom note's, but the note had mistakes that couldn't be faked that did not match mistakes in Patsy's handwriting, meaning she couldn't have written it. I hope all of this changed your opinion on Burke and the Ramseys being guilty!

[@Thebeautiful11]

That's a sophisticated weapon for a 9 yr old to make. She was hit in the head and sexually assaulted. Burke did all that?

[@Robert-nu4vc]

​@@annabelleproductionsofficialblah blah blah. You have no clue what you are rambling about.

[@slurpslurpslurpdeeznutz]

@@Thebeautiful11 Yes.

[@charliec30]

Maybe re open the case

[@lauranottuna]

VIDEO killed the RADIO STAR

[@aubreycasey3094]

Kwamena Soe yeah❤️

[@love_solaris]

I'm here because of that lmao

[@lvnxn]

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌u know it

[@siennacapelli]

I came from this tik tok 😂😂

[@jaslyn111]

I JUST SAW THAT OMG

[@Benny_5699]

The brothers whole vibe is creepy.

[@mason-rl3331]

It’s his first time ever being in front of a camera, let alone a live audience. I’m sure the guys pretty nervous

[@mason-rl3331]

I’m not sure yet but I’m not convinced he did it. If he did it alone then that means he would have also been the one to strangle her and I find it hard to believe that CSI wouldn’t be able to tell that the hands were that small. If it is someone in the family, I would say that the dad did it and then the mother wrote the note. Or perhaps it was the family friend that had a little crush on the daughter, I forgot his name. Hopefully I’ll know more as my YT binge continues

[@eucliwood14]

replying on this comment because the amount of likes is 999

[@venusempress7]

@@marieklara I heard he was Jealous of her

[@DropkickNation]

He did it. The evidence almost concludes that itself.

[@praises5139]

Excuse me, but why is Burke smiling while he recounts the story. Creepy.

[@cathy1679]

Praises nervous, I laugh when I'm upset . I'm the most awkward person , my emotions are opposite from expected .

[@timdeathly]

He's autistic, and he's very nervous.

[@hopebullard460]

Defense mechanism. Or I got away with something. It's weird. But if he's innocent, he needs a psych eval.

[@umarsyarif6535]

Cause he killed his sisterr😭 Jk Just my thoughts

[@dominiquexo4772]

Umar Syarif he didn’t

[@jimmychanbers2424]

That was odd. The basement window was broken from the Inside. Most "break ins" are from the outside trying to get In.😮

[@bethryan9077]

Not true At All. The public will Never get the True facts from all these a##wipe channel operators who repeat the false information whilst making up more Lies to draw in likes, for Money.

[@zachb3573]

So an intruder left a ransom note for money, then killed the person they we’re supposed to abduct. Makes sense.

[@kendraallegragile6124]

Um I really wanna know who killed her

[@zachb3573]

@@kendraallegragile6124 don’t we all.. don’t we all. I don’t know I’ve watched plenty of dateline and 48 hours to know that 99% of people who commit these crimes are caught. If it was some random intruder I would strongly think they would’ve been captured by now. They fact that it hasn’t happened makes me think it was one of the 3 people already in the house.

[@rebeccaknowles9490]

If a person broke in the house where r the foot prints in the snow?

[@zachb3573]

@@rebeccaknowles9490 one mysterious foot print

[@mydomusic2410]

Why you dress your child up like an adult and parade them around strangers foh...

[@jennicamillaaalto8675]

"How did you feel seeing her dead?" "Sad 😃"

[@meera2531]

So telling!

[@QueertyUCR]

@@meera2531 I dunno. I mean, he's obviously mentally ill. Doesn't mean he did it though.

[@trappedinsideafigure8]

He's smiling...what a weirdo!

[@289rory]

Queerty R A mentally ill child has the potential to kill, whether or not he had the intention to kill her? Who knows? But it’s not unheard of or the least bit strange. It’s entirely possible that he killed her, accidentally or otherwise, and the loving parents protected him. They weren’t great though. It had to be someone in the house. I don’t see even a slither of a possibility that the parents did it. Though I get the feeling that they knew something. No way they didn’t know. They said they searched the whole house. How do you search the whole house and then find her in the basement?

[@Alynjay14]

Lmao

[@clarinamascarenhas7499]

“I didn’t do it my husband didn’t do it” that leaves one person

[@therussiansgotme8316]

panda nuggets It's not a bad theory, actually. If you look at other interviews you can clearly see the brother smiling through the whole thing.

[@therussiansgotme8316]

So, in a way, he could have been the one that had caused the murder. The parents are just covering it up.

[@AZ-zn3ru]

panda nuggets hIgH sChOoL dEtEcTiVe

[@therussiansgotme8316]

Master I know, it's just unsettling. He was probably just nervous.

[@NadiaAburouman]

@@kikilovesyou03 lmfao wtf is a highschool detective?

[@charlenemack7040]

Of all the people on planet earth that could have interviewed him… They picked Dr. Phil. He’s no doctor in my mind.

[@CrowSpirit1977]

Dr. Phil has never been right about anything! He's too opinionated to have an open mind!

[@_anon_4532]

Fun fact… dr Phil and Burke have the same lawyer 😂 forreal it’s Lin wood. Dr Phil is a complete joke I’m so glad his show was cancelled

[@paige_renee]

Why tf is he smiling while talking about his sisters murder??

[@aylananicole2613]

Some people smile when they’re nervous, uncomfortable, worried etc. I do that too. For example my stepdad got into a car crash before I was was smiling when I heard the news. It wasn’t because it was funny or I was happy, it’s just a nervous/scared expression I naturally do and I’ve done that for years.

[@GnosticAtheist]

That is not uncommon. Granted, it does not look good, but stress can cause smiling as a response. That said, this family is ... weird at best.

[@Native722]

Socially awkward

[@julia-tc9gt]

Aylana Nicole why would he be nervous? because, he was apart of the murder.

[@zudiidmmelckek8918]

@@julia-tc9gt He can be nervous simply because he is not adapted to social contact, I have the impression of being there alone to find his normal behavior,In any case for one person socialy awkward, I also sometimes smile and laugh in stressful situations or just when I am accused of something

[@corabtw2298]

it may not be a happy smile but it’s nevertheless more than strange, isn‘t it?

[@beeizz2108]

How would u feel if u are being interviewed about your sister murder when u were 9

[@cherylc3696]

OMG!!!! You people have had it explained to you by Dr. Phil AND on this video, too that Burke was NOT smiling, as in a happy smile. He's shy and he was uncomfortable. OR, are you just looking for some way to criticize this young man????

[@corabtw2298]

Cheryl C lol didn‘t even want to criticize somebody. just wroted what i‘ve seen in this?! its my opinion. you don't have to agree at all?

[@shannon-2497]

Banora Zaroug well I wouldn’t fucking smile

[@caged_falcon4473]

I was in a very uncomfortable situation and was smiling. I wasn't happy, in fact I wanted to cry and run out of the room. I was smiling but my internal emotions were quite different than what was written on my face. It was involuntary and uncontrollable

[@VibeWithVida]

The entire freaking family was weird. ALL of them. Sick.

[@olskoolgapeachladykoolswag5384]

🤗 Except for Jonbene't... She was a Matilda...... that's why they killed her! 😢

[@AyAReI00]

@@olskoolgapeachladykoolswag5384 of course, narcissict love to use people to their gain, but then they realized she was Happy and probably think "she has a future ahead with this" so they felt jelous, and kill her... They want to exploit her not to actually be popular, narcissict have a HUGE EGO, how how she scapegoat is popular? How is she loved by people? She doesnt deserve that! She is below US ! ... They probably torture her and ooops , they over did It , and since they are so full of themselves they thought they did a magnificent job "covering " the whole thing Up, narcissict arent smarter than other people, they just think they are, is their ego, and of course their lack of empathy that allows them to made Up the most absurt lies and go with that... Is stupid shows that make psychopaths ( a level Up type of narcissict) to look like they are genious or mega charming, OH NO they are not, most only mimic "cute and nice" behavior exposing themselves as weirdos... Like smiling in the incorrect moments, since they think that would make them look "nice and normal" end Up being plain creepy

[@SantisandKisin]

fn PEDOFILES, when they r rich, they get covered by CABAL. It's all now coming up to light. "Out of shadows " documentary.

[@pinkedtv5610]

Innagadda DaVida except jonbenet

[@olskoolgapeachladykoolswag5384]

@@pinkedtv5610 🤗 YESSS... That's Another Reason They Did It......!! "Lil Miss Matilda"

[@kirbotime]

John Ramsey is also smiling almost the whole time

[@harrychivaaree6534]

"and it will never be solved" creeped me out. wow, he just knew

[@sheleen9448]

Cyra Ybanez right wtf

[@ferreroroach9153]

Odd thing for him to say. If an intruder did it, and they found DNA evidence on the underwear (that wasn't from manufacturing), it's not beyond reason that it could potentially be a future DNA match if the perpetrator commits another crime. It's almost as if he knows something we don't!

[@dianamorales7335]

i think I heard they found like three different DNA on her underwear

[@chad3232132]

He's simply making an assumption, which after decades has been proven true. There is no evidence whatsoever that he had anything to do with her death, and his DNA does not match his sister's killer. I know there's always a belief that the "weird" guy is the killer, but simply being "weird" doesn't make a person a killer.

[@jodystarkey4213]

@@chad3232132 the note that was written. Im sure the detectives compared hand writing that was written from everyone in the family with the notes that they found or did they think of that. Im sure they looked it over and over but comparing to older not newer handwritungs from family to where one could finagle how they draw a t or an a and all. And the brother being that young cpuldnt have covered every track unless his favorite subjects is mystery murder books or detective shows ect. Lot could have been learned. He did act weird. But so didnt the father. His micro expressions read funny something to me.

[@valorawaters3592]

This guy is strange. WHY IS HE SMILING while talking about his sister's death. He has some emotional problems I can feel it

[@anitabartkey3900]

Nerves many people smile when nervous

[@Beachandpool]

Correct, he has always had issues. They had books in the house about how to deal with a difficult and aggressive child. He used to leave feces in JB's bed, on the walls and on her candy.

[@IreneAiete]

@@anitabartkey3900 you’re right

[@ariyannnaunicornlove4444]

@@anitabartkey3900 still

[@TheKatarinaGiselle]

He is autistic.

[@richardwait1206]

Interview is chilling how can he smile so much during this serious interview. A smile is a smile & it extends to his eyes. The father & mother protected the son & staged the rest. They were already a family exploiting one pretty child & the elder child was simply jealous of the attention his sister got.

[@annabelleproductionsofficial]

The Burke theory makes no sense. I think an intruder did it due to majority of the evidence pointing to an intruder, but even the theory that John or Patsy killed her makes more sense then Burke. The strangulation came first. There were marks on her neck that matched perfectly with her fingernails and showed that she tried to pull the rope away from her neck and try to save her own life. If the head injury came first, she would not have been able to do this. She would have been unconscious. If she somehow had any consciousness, she would have been in too much pain to move and wouldn't have had the strength to try and pull the rope away from her neck. Nine year olds are strong, but not strong enough to strangle her like how she was strangled, so there's no way he could have strangled her either. She was strangled by a grown man. The DNA also ruled out the entire family. It was found on her underwear, pajama pants, under her nails, and on other pieces of evidence that haven't been released yet. The DNA couldn't have come from a manufacturer because it was washed multiple times, were not from the same manufacturer, and were under her nails and on other pieces of unreleased evidence. There's no other way for the DNA to get there other than an intruder. There was also the unidentified hand print on the doorknob on the door left a jar by the basement cell grate and the unidentified palm print left by her body. The basement cell grate was disturbed, the window under it was opened with a scuff mark on the wall, and a suitcase was below the window with broken glass from the window on top of it. On the suitcase was a Hi-Tec footprint, and another also found by her body. The Ramseys did not own a stun-gun Fibers from the pajamas she wore that night and her hair were found inside that suitcase, which means she was in there sometime that night and was possibly almost transported outside of the house that night. She had stun-gun marks on her body too, and the Ramseys did not own a stun-gun. The rope used to strangle her was not found in the house, and neither was the duct tape that was on her mouth. On the duct tape on her mouth, there was fur from a beaver, and the Ramseys did not have any beaver fur in the house. The ransom note's handwriting also did not match Patsy or John's. Many people think Patsy's handwriting is very similar to the ransom note's, but the note had mistakes that couldn't be faked that did not match mistakes in Patsy's handwriting, meaning she couldn't have written it. I hope all of this changed your opinion on Burke and the Ramseys being guilty!

[@R4ma2]

@@annabelleproductionsofficial I feel like Patsy thought Burk killed her due to his violent nature to her before so she wrote the ransom note but then to later find out it wasn’t him it was an intruder . On the 911 call she was saying “what did you do”

[@annabelleproductionsofficial]

@@R4ma2 There's no way. Like I said, her handwriting was *similar* , but not a match. Each person's handwriting has mistakes unique to them that can't be replicated by another person. This is what makes everyone's handwriting unique. If Patsy wrote the ransom note, her handwriting mistakes would match the mistakes in the ransom note, but they didn't, which means she didn't write the note. Also, the Burke being violent accusations are all false. He wasn't violent around his family or friends. It was a lie made up by tabloids to sell more copies.

[@danabella29]

In total agreement.

[@BleedingGrafitti]

@@annabelleproductionsofficial Quit yapping nonsense. You can clearly hear the mother yelling at him on the original call. Burk was known to get into confrontations with his sister. Pineapple was his favorite snack, his sister stole some from him, he got enraged and struck her on the head, which caused a lot more damage than he intended. The parents covered up for him. Also the DNA came from the manufacturer of the underwear, considering they found the same DNA from an unopened pack. This family is filthy rich. You don't think they could've used their wealth to help smear the evidence around for a confusing case that leads nowhere? The brother is guilty and he got away with something awful. And what makes it more sick is that he clearly has no remorse, not even decades later.

[@mesha9819]

y’all should’ve just called criminal minds.... they literally solve everything 😭

[@mesha9819]

i feel so bad for this little girl...

[@william.j.Moriartyy]

i swear they will solve the case in 10 sec

[@mariakarlsson15]

Or Twitter

[@tama-ce8fx]

@@mariakarlsson15 lmao frr

[@MsTifalicious]

Yep! Every damn time! But sadly nowadays the FBI cares more about a supposed "noose" 🙄🙄

[@eak4889]

Him: 😃 Dr. Phil: 🧐

[@gotenkswrld8258]

so fucking true😂😂😂

[@HelenKN]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Queenalika85]

😂😂😂

[@brandons8410]

Did you notice how the first show Dr Phil was drilling him, then the 2nd show he was super apologetic? Did you know that Dr Phil and John Ramsey share the same attorney? It's all smoke and mirrors. The dad, much like Hollywood, is into weird, disgusting shit. www.opdeepstate.com/2017/12/10/jonbenet-ramsey-case-emerging-child-sex-ring-allegations/

[@localucid]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@rararaka2348]

Why is he smiling, “one of her eyes was kinda droopy, that was kinda weird 😁😁”

[@emelyn7657]

He might have some sort of anxiety or PTSD, it can make you do that sometimes

[@BitcoinMotorist]

Duping delight

[@karadiberlino]

@@Ben.N So according to your scholarly opinion, autism is something that can be "seen"? Interesting. (Please, don't use words or terms you don't understand at all...)

[@Robobotic]

@@ZiggysRevenge Actually, something even more disturbing happened... skepticalinquirer.org/2017/07/jonbenet_murder_mystery_solved_not_by_psychics/

[@hannahbanana7391]

ArduinoBen also, burke was KNOWN to smear feces on the wall, which my autistic cousins were know to do. there are many signs pointing to autism, which would explain the smiling and seemingly uncomfortable facial expressions.

[@taniakoen9423]

Most disturbing interview I ever watched, him smiling and laughing throughout interview

[@hayatstudio2143]

It is so uncomfortable to see him smiling while talking about his DEAD sister. Edited: I am no trauma or body language expert, and I believe so do you. I am simply stating the obvious from this clip how I felt. Be respectful to one another in the comment below 👇everyone are entitled for their own feelings and opinion. I hope one day there will be justice for this beautiful young soul, JonBenet.

[@blueyes6474]

Farah Amirah Faisal remember this was 20 years ago and everyone deals with uncomfortable situations differently. People do laugh during funerals not because they’re chill it’s just a reaction some people have to sad or uncomfortable situations

[@bass2261]

@@blueyes6474 this is 3 years ago not 20 wtf

[@hayatstudio2143]

blueyes6474 maybe.. 🤷🏻‍♀️ only he knows his truth.

[@hayatstudio2143]

Daniel Treadwell 🧐

[@jenniferc8213]

@@bass2261 he was talking about when his sister died😧😧

[@wintermoon2506]

Personally, I find these "child beauty pageants" creepy.

[@karengodoy8625]

Too many evil sick people that run these abduction of children and protected by the corrupt system we have. Child Beauty Pageants, should not be allowed they exploit children and psychologically harm them and jeopardize their innocence that they will never get back. RIP JonBenet ✝️❤️💫

[@SteveAubrey1762]

@@karengodoy8625 I could not agree more!

[@robgeorgia8801]

@@karengodoy8625 It has always seemed to me that a large portion of our society back then never even knew these types of beauty pageants even existed. I know I didn't and a lot of people I knew and worked with didn't.

[@Jessewren1968]

Lose the quotation marks.

[@karengodoy8625]

Jesse Wright “Go pound sand”

[@Dk-M-z2p]

Her brother pushed her away in sudden anger for some reason. At that moment she fell unconscious due to the damage to her skull. But the parents thought she was already dead. So they thought about their son's safety and implemented this plan. Her mother wrote that long letter. Then she placed it on the stairs herself. Meanwhile, the father left her body in the storage room. Then everyone went to their bedrooms as if nothing had happened. According to this medical report, she did not die from head injuries. Her neck is choked by someone. About two hours after the injury to her head, someone choked her and killed her. That is, she did not die at once. So my opinion is that after her brother pushed her, she fell unconscious with her head injury. The parents thought she was dead and executed this plan. Mother wrote the letter. The father took her body to the storage room and dumped it. Then they went to their bedroom. But the brother, who knew that he had done everything, could not stay in the room with his scared heart. He wanted to check if his sister was dead. So he went to the storage room after two hours. Then he saw that his sister was still alive. He then strangled her to death using the device he had made. Then he covered her mouth with sellotape. both of her hands was tied with tape. Because if her mother or father did this, they wouldn't do things in such a childish way. Especially the device used to strangle her. It looks like a child's creation. Then he went to his room. Then the mother started these plays. Her father left her body intact, but her brother later came and did many things. So when the father saw her body, he immediately realized that it was his son's doing, and he quickly removed the cellotape covering her mouth. In this way, they fought every second to prevent their son from being accused of murder and society naming him a murderer? However, out of the two children, everyone paid more attention to the daughter than the son. Although she was young, the society gave fame to her parents because of her. Most of the people who came home looked for her and gave only attention to her. So the mother and father were more busy with their daughter's affairs than their son. Although some children tolerate this, mentally weak children do not tolerate these things. He must have felt that everyone was paying attention to his sister, his parents were busy with her work and they were neglecting him. He may have been a more angry with his sister because of this. Although his parents gave him love, the society was only looking for his siste, and the fact that his parents were too busy with her may have given him a headache. Little kids are like that. Because they are not mature. He did not push his sister with the intention of killing her. But he was so angry with her since before. so he pushed her away with that impulse. Although he saw that she was still alive, he did not tell his parents because he was afraid that one day she would say that it was her brother who pushed her. so he killed her. Maybe there were fights between the two children before that. What the parents did was try to protect the other child after they lost one of them. A dead child cannot be given life. But they did not want the other child to be labeled as a murderer in the society. I can't find fault with anyone here. They are wrong. but i don't know. I Sad about that little girl. Wishing her find a good soul. Maybe even now she is born and living in a good family.

[@amtulfarheen1283]

I feel so bad for Jonbenèt Ramsey she was surrounded by terrible people at a very young age

[@rajashreedamu6448]

Yes

[@amtulfarheen1283]

talexander1012 yes for real

[@janie3117]

We are in a fallen world. That’s why we need God. We need to be born again of incorruptible seed. Our first birth is corrupt seed. We only need to believe the gospel to be born again and saved. This is the gospel: 1Tim 2:5- There is One God and One mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. The man Christ Jesus was born of a woman ( human flesh) but his Spirit was God. Col 2:9- for in him dwelleth all the Fulness of the Godhead bodily. 2Cor 5:19- God was IN Christ reconciling the world unto Himself. Jesus was crucified for the sins of the world. Died and buried. On the 3rd day God raised him from the dead. According to the scriptures. The flesh of Jesus died. God is a Spirit and cannot die. John 4:24- God is a Spirit and we must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. 1Tim 1:17- the King immortal Eternal INVISIBLE, Only wise God God is an Invisible Spirit. He is not flesh and bone. Jesus was both, flesh and bone like us, But he also was God in Spirit. The people in this vid are evil. 1John 4:16 - God is love. This world is not Gods kingdom. If you believe the True gospel, you are not of this world. You are in the heavenly kingdom, and heir with Christ.

[@strugglingcollegestudent]

@@janie3117 where was he when that baby was murdered

[@janie3117]

Sophia , as I already said, the people in this vid are evil. This world is NOT Gods kingdom. So do you want to blame God? God is Love. Do you want to blame Him? This world is darkness. ( of the evil one). God is Light and in Him is no darkness at all. Men are always fighting and warring and destroying each other. That’s is what will continue until the end of time. God is our Savior- from all evil. He gives us the choice. We can remain a part of this wicked generation or be Regenerated into Gods family. But please put the blame where it belongs. Not on the Holy God.

[@uwu-nr9mh]

when he asks him if he hit his sister with a bat, he says “absolutely not” then drops eye contact. interesting

[@noone-dv1jo]

I also noticed that while I was watching it...

[@LifeOfMaharajah]

Yep me too I saw

[@caseberg1000]

That doesnt mean hes lying, it means hes deflecting from thinking about his sister being brutally injured. Almost like a wince from pain. Also DNA doesnt lie.

[@prod.vulgar3541]

See how u females jump to conclusions

[@anaisfalcon9397]

prod. vulgar I’m fucking deaddd😭💀

[@nathaliedufour3891]

That little girl suffered abuse, she was a circus animal.

[@keirank8049]

Nathalie Dufour sad 🤧 should’ve never of happened to that poor baby girl

[@Queenalika85]

Agree...

[@radiolefantome8936]

I'm not sure what s more disturbing the actual murder are these comments!

[@JustBeYouooh]

Robin Luich and dad. I still think it was a cult thing. A party at the house, girl gets taken to the basement, sexually abused, and murdered? Like the investigators said “why the exact amount of money for the ransom equal to the amount dad was gonna get paid out from work?”,

[@karyn27]

Yep, totally agree. She was a circus animal and a trophy object that narcissistic Patsy fixated on and lived through. Totally weird. They also covered up the fact their kid had Autism - probably embarrassed - that is BAD parenting.

[@BlueJWay999]

I think he's on the spectrum. He's not smiling because he's happy she died he's smiling because he's uncomfortable talking about it.

[@MilkByCow]

I dunno if this guy killed his sister, or if his grinning is a defense mechanism or psychotic. But he creeps the hell out of me.

[@jeanherbert4061]

Loo no

[@unknownb3177]

@hauha its vicarious trauma. that's when you're indirectly impacted by something that happens to somebody else, like witnessing a crime or something happening to someone close to you.

[@lindagrasse]

when will people leave this poor family alone?

[@skylartipton909]

I think both of those children were abused!

[@thomaswashington5888]

I think he did it out of jealousy! I'll even go so far as too say he did it accidentally!

[@serenakaminski5650]

"Absolutely not" looks like hes trying not to laugh

[@mypenisisonlyaninchbut9719]

apparently he’s autistic

[@mypenisisonlyaninchbut9719]

@@nataliesere7252 well that’s what i saw in the comments

[@Mish-mosh-gerra-wash]

No, I agree with you. I’ve never heard anything about him being autistic before today, and he shows no signs of being autistic!

[@ohsehungry2084]

do you guys actually look at that smile and think it’s a happy smile

[@user-lz5nd8lh8b]

@@ohsehungry2084 its a guilty smile

[@cutecat6325]

The smile is creepy asf

[@Lion_Hamza]

Who`s smile you mean?

[@cutecat6325]

F. Moussa the boy's ofcourse

[@Lion_Hamza]

Aha i c :)

[@ReddFlameFilms]

cute melon he could have been happy about commiting the murder and was trying to hide his pride.

[@timothymoore6341]

I think both of the brothers may have had something to do with it and the parents covered it up.

[@Lommy9999]

The father looks like a typical psychopath. That shallow charm, being so calm with an empty gaze and smiling all the time. If a stranger did this to his daughter he should have been a broken man. Not the charming smiling psycho that he is.

[@vixvixie]

there’s too much evidence against them- how is this even a debate

[@susanmetz9892]

tor todd . There is speculation and no conclusive evidence. There is a difference. The investigators definitely wanted to solve this case and would not have just let it slide through their hands.

[@vixvixie]

Susan Metz that’s where i disagree. i’m sorry. i believe they could’ve done more for her.

[@im1who84u]

I kinda remember back when this happened that law enforcement in that area of the country was lacking in experienced personal and technical equipment to handle a case this big. This wasn't like some large metropolitan city like New York, Cleveland, or Chicago that dealt with this sort of thing more often and had experienced personal to deal with it. It was even suggested to bring in outside help with more experience and equipment. That never happened.

[@vixvixie]

im1who84u so sad

[@MsLacy707]

Money

[@erinsmith2640]

“I don’t see a smile” The Brother: 😃

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

Tide Pods nervous smile

[@dreamlify8]

LOL

[@goldengirl7625]

This shouldn't have made me laugh, but lmaoo

[@sweetfeet408]

😆

[@SiphesihleY]

😂😂😂

[@lucimontero8039]

why is he smiling when describing her dead body? WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL

[@salxty650]

apparently he’s autistic 🤷‍♀️

[@princesarainah3518]

@@salxty650 that doesn’t make it ok

[@salxty650]

@@princesarainah3518 yh i never said it does

[@birdie7910]

@@princesarainah3518 it’s not that it makes it okay it just explains it. Autistic people can’t maie eye contact and they don’t react and have the same emotions as us. It explains why he smiles so much. It’s not sus but I do think he probably did it but smiling isn’t a reason since he’s autistic

[@MeTreesndirt]

@@birdie7910 Autism does not equal smiles over a cruelly murfered little sis. Autistic kids actually feel everything acutely . They tend to appear to have no feelings.

[@hghyfyfiugou4448]

08:12 "I struggled a lot with forgiveness." How could you forgive a person who you do not know and who got away with murdering your daughter? "I was angry for a time. But you can't stay there." On the 911 call you can hear him reacting angrily, I assume towards his son. He's absolutely speaking about his son killing his sister. 09:27 "and it will never be solved." Because you won't close it and charge the one responsible.

[@Liz-rd2lx]

The brother is smiling to much. He is hiding his feelings under that smile.

[@clarkkent1962]

Liz 25 how would your react if people are making these comments about you? I’ll bet the same. Society is unfair to people that find themselves in situations like this. He was just a child himself. He has NEVER been charged and won’t be. So leave him alone.

[@Liz-rd2lx]

@@clarkkent1962 I didn't mean it in a nasty way. People that smile when they talk about trauma are usually hiding their true pain. My apologies.

[@clarkkent1962]

Liz 25 no Apology needed. My apology.

[@Liz-rd2lx]

@@clarkkent1962 That's no worries. Sometimes l don't quite explain what l mean. Your comment helped remind me of that

[@marieannaperry1967]

7

[@stargirl9341]

The way he speaks about seeing his dead sister in her casket...really unsettling.

[@CoushattaL]

StAr GiRl right... the smiling freaks me out

[@that_is_my_real_name]

yeah, the forced smile and the wide eyes are a weird reaction when talking about your dead sister.

[@kennaisatlas8323]

StAr GiRl he's probably extremely traumatized. Even HE has been through a lot. You would probably be mentally disturbed too if you went through all the trauma and uncomfortable attention your whole life.

[@foxyroxy1059]

He did it, I'm sure. But his parents did everything to cover it up. They should all go to death row. Murder never expires. And what's with the constant smile on that psycho's face?

[@layelperiwinkle618]

Foxy&Roxy Patsy died of cancer and the dad remarried and got a new family.

[@thestanman1486]

"Then I started crying" He says while smiling like the goddamn Joker.

[@florastewart7920]

If you saw the movie Joker, it was a response to trauma.

[@thestanman1486]

@@florastewart7920 you realise one movie don't represent the whole character. People like you make me hate the existence of that movie.

[@dreya777]

I'm ngl whenever I start saying something sad I start to smile because I dont wanna cry . It's probably his coping mechanism

[@kdvn1]

The Stan Man true joker originally doesn’t even have a origin story

[@thestanman1486]

@@kdvn1 yea. the thing is that you can't say that Phoenix's Joker is the same as Joker. They're two separate characters with two separate backstories.

[@Ooopss85]

That's how you smile when you get away with murder.

[@debsgirl8]

Guy is fkn weird

[@SD-ph6cr]

Perioodddd

[@chloealexander9861]

“did you kill ur-“ “NO...no i did not.” low key sus

[@RickysRabbits]

Bob Bobberton i would have let him finish asking first.

[@Sammy-mp9xn]

Very suspicious 😒

[@bethryan9077]

@@Sammy-mp9xn For those with a totally biased attitude about a case that you know Nothing about, everything single thing this family said, was suspicious. Yawn.

[@mightytaiger3000]

"beauty pageants" for children should be banned. sickening.

[@markrogers1532]

mightytaiger makes it easy for creeps to perv out

[@stacib1199]

mightytaiger agreed

[@LWall-fv5ep]

mightytaiger 😢 YOU SURE SAID THAT RIGHT!! PLUS, ANY MOTHER, THAT WOULD PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION, TO ONE CHILD, IS SO VERY SAD....! HAVE 2, CHILDREN, GIRL & BOY AND I LOVE THEM BOTH, SO MUCH, AND DID LOT'S OF THING'S WITH BOTH OF THEM..... I BET HE HURT ALOT, WHEN HE WAS LITTLE, BECAUSE HIS MOTHER PAID SO MUCH MORE, ATTENTION TO HER, THEN HIM. DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING, ABOUT WHAT SHE DID WITH HIM. LIKE PIANO, KARATE, OR ANYTHING... BUT, WE SURE DID HEAR ABOUT HIM HITTING, HIS LITTLE SISTER, & ETC.... SO SAD....😢

[@masrulhasni5674]

Agreed

[@evtv304]

What does that have to do with anything? And pervs and child molesters are going to get off on kids whether they're wearing kids clothes or a pageant dress. That's kind of just the nature of being sick and into kids.

[@proagnes988]

He killed her. His parents did everything to hide it becuz they didnt want to lose 2 children. He did it for sure.

[@izzybank2196]

And I also think they couldn't deal with humiliation of a son for a murderer .and people knowing

[@proagnes988]

@@izzybank2196 Def like out of a movie. They destroyed all the evidence from the house. The mother took the secret to her own grave. What puzzles me is how these private investigators couldnt crack this one. Were they paid off? Hmmm. I hope one day this little girl gets her justice.

[@pwells10]

I don't think a 9 year old would sexually abuse his sister.

[@KatetheGreat3689]

Agreed

[@youtuber2928]

@@pwells10 there were no sexual abuse sign.

[@maliliu2444]

I never see the family feeling sad, no tears, no despair. The strange ransom amount. The mother’s paper, the long essay ransom, to keep in house , to travel in dark, no footprint. …

[@angiewinchester3384]

I believe he killed her accidentally and still hasn't coped with the trauma. Maybe he even convinced himself he didn't do it.

[@michellemichelle5202]

SMH maybe

[@anonyme8485]

Bruh does he look like he cares?

[@angiewinchester3384]

@@anonyme8485 You can't know what's in a person's head just by looking at them. Everyone responds to trauma differently and sometimes emotions just fail to load. Not because you don't care or because you're a monster but because your brain can't deal with them.

[@bethryan9077]

The note was real, the instructions were clear, don't call the cops. The threat was Very serious. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to dinner. They had broken in before & is why they knew where everything was, where to go & exactly what to do. At about 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white nylon cord & tasered on her back in her bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed. Fibres from the cord were found on her sheet & pillow & are in evidence. They ran out the back door & down to the back & waited under the pine tree. They ran into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours & tasered & tortured in that same room. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & using electricity. The paint tray was put on the carpet in that room to cover the large pee stain in case someone came looking for JB in the morning. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the large pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. JB was given pineapple fruitcake in the early hours & some cake at at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any of that pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. In the top of JB's small intestine were the colours yellow, light green-tan Fragments of vegetable or fruit material. The ME only said then 'may represent pineapple' because Arndt was standing there & said there was pineapple in a bowl. In JB's stomach was 8-10cc of viscous to green to tan unidentifiable material. It takes 2 hours for food to go from the stomach to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy's police interview of '98, Thomas Haney told her the tiny bits of pineapple in the top of JB's small intestine was Different to the fresh pineapple in the bowl. When Patsy called 911 on the wall phone near the kitchen door, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st was a brick & that caused the huge fracture. The 2nd was a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called, they didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near the butler's kitchen & their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road & to the left. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy someone's print writing. Meyer only had to copy Some letters like hers into the note because it was Supposed to look like Patsy had tried to disguise her writing, which is impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills & John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the house they had nowhere to operate. The SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & is why so much is now known. The crime scene techs did an excellent job in taking all the photos & the videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from the half hour after JB was found & they left. Steve Thomas was only brought into the case 3 days after because the present investigators refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was the first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of $118,000 was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96 that were i his office. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window was opened after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window that's all. It was never an entry or exit point. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once. To do that near the brain is about balance & memory loss. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs 1993, Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit of the tray, up a bit & close to under the piece of wood, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. The Ramseys were finally exonerated publicly in 2008 due to All the evidence known at that stage that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA Already cleared them all plus lots of others then & since including known paedos & john Mark Karr who said he did it. It is 2021, all is known & the 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead, the BPD are holding things up. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. Further testing in 2016 with advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long -johns, one is hispanic.

[@miad6160]

@@bethryan9077 there was no sign of break in- no unknown footsteps. The note was very very similar to the mother’s handwriting. They claimed to not speak English well, but spelled only simple words wrong. The note was not real. Stop spreading false information

[@rina-xs7sz]

That poor girl, she was so cute, may she rest in peace.

[@tyoniapompey8949]

Rite RIP Angel🥺 she would have been like 24 now

[@availanila]

It's also how over-sexualized she looked. She's why I didn't like Toddlers and Tiaras. 😰

[@sophie6390]

Tyonia Pompey she wasn’t a baby in 1996 so she wouldn’t be 24 she was 6 when she was killed

[@stormygirl1704]

Why is he SMILING?? Creepy and wrong.

[@1maldinero]

Stormy Girl simply just uncomfortable.

[@julieutley6615]

Not a smile. Fear grimace. We all do it.

[@subigirlawd_7307]

Duping Delight

[@Milkdudpuff]

I'd be trying not to laugh if I were sitting across from Dr. Phil.

[@luciananatisha9312]

yes he is so frightening

[@89whodatcha]

To those saying he’s weird …his little sister was murdered and he’s been publicly accused of it and the family went thru a circus case those things will screw you up

[@0myxun]

She's so pretty. It's so sad that she died. She could of had a beautiful childhood. (Fixed the message because it kinda sounded rude)

[@whoopty48]

her brother and her mom did it.

[@glox4954]

@@whoopty48 why would the mom do it?

[@heitorplintadeoliveira]

@@glox4954 why she wouldn't

[@stunnamiya]

@@glox4954 she could be jealous of her

[@whoopty48]

@@glox4954 it was said she tried to live her life to her daughter.

[@matthewwaddington2777]

Child beauty pageants are creepy, period.

[@allisgoodallisbad]

Matthew Waddington 10000% agreed

[@49lucky]

IKR

[@kittynugz]

Dressing a child as an adult, heels and make up, is quite odd.

[@kittynugz]

Dressing a child as an adult, heels and make up, is quite odd.

[@themaninthechair4338]

Honestly, as an English person, where Beauty Pageants are not a thing, it's bordering on harressment and creepy. It's weird and creepy and having adults judge little kids on how pretty they are is a recipe for disaster.

[@kelsey2333]

That guy "jonbennet was a pedophiles dream" I just threw up in my mouth

[@sanijahmccrimmon165]

Right how would you know that

[@dancer1]

Sanijah McCrimmon what

[@sanijahmccrimmon165]

@@dancer1 just applying emphasis on how creepy him saying jonbenet was every pedophiles dream is

[@bilinguru]

It had nothing to do with sex. I'm not a fan of the whole Beauty Pageant thing in general, less so for little girls, but that angle was not supported by the evidence. Brother did it because be is a psychopath. Parents covered it up.

[@dancer1]

Brian Miller no way

[@SamanthaSweets]

Saying absolutely not to the question and looking down is straight guilt

[@diesel4135]

He is a creep..who smiles when talking about their murdered sister..he may have done it

[@sisplease9053]

Yes like it kinda makes sense

[@myleesxhneider22]

he definitely did 😼

[@micregil]

Yes, it was found out that he hit her in the head with a hammer because she took a strawberry from his plate, that was on TV years after it happened.

[@alicehastings4083]

Obviously not considering the dna

[@myleesxhneider22]

Alice Hastings ???

[@Rareyma]

Why do I think her brother did it

[@JNichole10]

Because he did, no one can convince me otherwise.

[@maryroche4467]

He couldn't sexually assault her he was 9 year's of age

[@maryroche4467]

I have thaught for some time now that he didn't have anything to do with her murder.. but the reason he smiles is a coping mechanism..as he does seem to have ADHD

[@tnicc78_]

I always did.. no other reason for the parents to not cooperate unless it’s to protect someone u love

[@maryroche4467]

9 year old don't have a clue about anything in that nature

[@atokeade4056]

He killed her The parents didnt want to lose their only remaining child

[@alfathashemi7028]

i think the same but ... what about the sexual abuse?

[@atokeade4056]

Alfat H i think she was a pawn,the fame she brought her family,her mom was definately vicariously living through her by throwing her into the overtly sexualised pagaent world.

[@kaylaa8092]

He was 9 and on top of that where did the sexual assault come from then.

[@veronica92ish]

He didnt.. I think it was something to do with the dad, he and his sister were both sexually abused.

[@atokeade4056]

Kemarie Bug watch the original documentary autopsy showed no sign of her bein molested

[@tetee6789]

Police pulled me over, I was nervous and smiling a lot. Not saying who's innocent and who's not, but sometimes people smile in wrong times

[@msMuffet.]

She would be 29 this year. R.I.P.

[@georgiageorgia5772]

That's so crazy to think about. She'd probably have a family of her own. :(

[@elenachavez9831]

oh man you're right

[@veravaladez1525]

They just said in the video that the brother was 29 years old now !! JonBenet was younger than him so she would be about 25 or 26 maybe !!

[@cyberrii]

Vera Valadez he was 29 in 2016, this was made 2 years ago. Right now he would be 31, and she would be twenty nine.

[@luciananatisha9312]

@@cyberrii hahahaha clever

[@makaylachenault6327]

Ain’t nobody about to steal a kid and write a whole ducking essay

[@zachturner4680]

And then leave her corpse in their own basement lmao. Can't believe they haven't gotten these people behind bars

[@1saleha1]

Two and a half pages!!!?? Like whattt

[@anonnona6433]

Using the mother's writing pad and pen. I wish the truth could be revealed 🤔

[@Ee-cp4zn]

@@zachturner4680 because there is no evidence

[@susannichols8521]

makayla chenault they didn’t steal her which is the weird thing about it. Like my school essays are 2 pages and that takes me like 2 weeks to write.

[@passionfashions3018]

The parents said they were trying to protect the brother from the media, that’s not the only thing they were trying to protect him from.

[@Meg-yb6ux]

And his father also said it was a huge interruption not a Tramatizing loss of a sister

[@gracieg7601]

That child had nothing to do with it!

[@queenmary2452]

@@gracieg7601 what makes u say that

[@chauntovey]

@@gracieg7601 What proof do you have that he didn't do it?

[@gracieg7601]

@@chauntovey whst proof do you have thst he did.? I read body language pretty well! He says I just want people to stop asking me and go look for who really did it! There was a Murder of s child about jonbernes age several weeks later. A few blocks from the Ramsey’s hone. The child was kidnapped out of her bed and killed and found a few blocks away. It continued for a few months. They talked about it in the Rocky mtn news for months. Saying why aren’t they looking for this killer ? It’s continuing. There was 3 or 4 more. Young Girls kidnapped them killed. There’s a guy in a jail thst confessed to two or so of them including Jon Bernne. Hewas arrested on another charge. That’s when the killing stopped! No one will talk about that. The Ramsey’s are wealthy and it made for better press.

[@michaelangelus7355]

This whole family is dark.

[@moosops8411]

no the family is white, are you good bro??

[@lilmiss4069]

MoosOps ._. I'm pretty sure that person ment with the word "dark" is that they are evil.

[@foxyroxy1059]

Yes, they are very weird. especially smiley face Burke. He makes my skin crawl.

[@hrf6548]

yeah poor JonBenet she's so beautiful and lovely

[@cristing4669]

moos ops...i hope ur jokin

[@MarkusRene]

"We tried very hard to keep Burkes life normal..." but not the younger six year old daughter you had....super weird

[@amyl2380]

probably they knew he had mental health problems

[@angelinalydia6048]

Amy L yep

[@vaidehi_n]

They learned their mistake the hard way bruh!

[@mommaof4boys700]

He was speaking on keeping his life normal AFTER her murder and then one day in town he was accused.

[@barnyardchick4equestrian19]

They were talking about after her death.

[@frankchinigo907]

I remember there was a big deal out of there were no footprints in the snow.DOES'NT that tell you someone inside the house killed this innocent child.

[@melodyrogers9473]

Right. He didn't fly in.

[@nancyreardon6179]

And there. Were cobwebs around the windows

[@TheG512]

Where is the snow? There isnt even any snow in any of the pictures taken from that day.

[@ladycrystal3293]

Yes, no evidence of break in or foot prints anywhere! Come on, a 3 page ramsom note on Patsy's notepad (killer actually had time to write 3 pages n kill the baby) doesn't make sense! The killer resides inside the home! Period.

[@mariatanski7895]

There was actually barely any snow on the ground the night she was killed/the morning they found her. It was a light dusting, so not enough snow for there to be any tracks. Nevertheless, I still think the ramseys had something to do with it. Probably an accident of some kind.

[@paulaeyoung]

Why is he smiling through the whole interview?? It’s so creepy!!

[@Teuilafy]

He just seems like an adult that was traumatized as a child. Not really sure how to act. Comes off as creepy tho so I get it.

[@halex9530]

Time and Tide watch his interviews when he was a kid right after the murder, he smiles and seems to not even care that his sister is gone. its not a traumatized adult when he was like that as a kid too, he knows a lot that hes not telling people

[@halex9530]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5e0o2p7ba2Hh5o

[@lindapedersen956]

Time and Tide no hes guilty as hell

[@estherkessler]

The society is sick!

[@colinheizen]

I think with the other factors including the dna that he’s just traumatized or possibly dealing with ptsd and he can’t deal with it

[@daptekar]

I don't understand why people feel that Dr Phil is a Good representation of Psychology. He doesn't talk like a licensed psychologist.

[@annaa.1060]

exactly

[@annarozycki7647]

I agree.....

[@theresabrowning1745]

Sometimes Dr Phil is to cocky!! Sometimes he's mean when he should be more compassionate. I like Dr Phil but sometimes he needs to hug people and say its going to be ok.

[@freedomrings5270]

Dr Phil was a licensed psychologist but gave up his license in 2006. He has a doctorate in philosophy and was a licensed psych doc; also studying Forensic Science/Psychology. Some think that he is too cocky at times to be a Psychologist but intonation (In linguistics, is variation in spoken pitch when used, not for distinguishing words as sememes (a concept known as tone), but, rather, for a range of other functions such as indicating the attitudes and emotions of the speaker, signalling the difference between statements and questions, and between different types of questions, focusing attention on important elements of the spoken message and also helping to regulate conversational interaction.) sometimes requires this in his interviews to gather the truth from people. He has helped many people get their lives back but only if those who he assist is committed to doing so.

[@itsjustsangy9329]

Bc he talks to ppl like regular people and not on a super "fancy" level. So there can be a better understanding.

[@beear2363]

I think Burke is hella nervous......or he’s mentally unstable

[@judithbell5269]

But people...now he has the spotlight

[@kimmartin2522]

Very nervous.

[@solaithegreat706]

Or both. If he didnt do it he probably saw who did it. Gunna fk u up mentally

[@mdqquinn2513]

He can't help smiling talking about her murder and sight of her dead face. The only reason the Ramseys would have had to concoct fake ransom letter is to save the brother and the family left.

[@paulaw418]

@@whitneypaige2038 Aspergers.

[@SharonMcwilliams78]

Smiling while saying he was sad about it. He remembered what she looked liked. He was retrieving the memories of what he did.

[@brxannamxchelle5987]

Him: “a lot of sadness 😀😀😀😀” bro micro expressions tell everything

[@amaraivy7]

Brxanna Mxchelle more like obvious

[@jess6368]

Brxanna Mxchelle the emojis are sendddding me💀

[@giorgiop890]

Brxanna Mxchelle micro??? Bitch WHERE

[@antheia-ey5ib]

That's not even a micro expression he smiles bright af 😬

[@eneedham789]

That’s macro not micro 😂

[@anamariapadron2853]

I wanna believe that he was smiling because he was nervous...

[@catherinematulid1289]

Right if that's the case you can smile so long then it affect you and you break down hard and crazy its family. Get to you and you don't know how to handle it

[@reginabarron557]

I hope, so?

[@beebee5423]

Me too. I laugh and smile when I'm nervous some times.

[@soniaddii]

He has anxiety and is obviously a loner. You can tell. I can tell because I smile and laugh as well when I'm nervous,it's a natural reaction.

[@beebee5423]

@@soniaddii for real it's just a coping mechanism. I notice people always think socially awkward people are the people to look out for mean while the real killers blend in with everyone else because they are so charismatic eg. Ted Bundy, Wayne gacey

[@sweetielady7710]

At 5:40- maybe I’m overthinking it but Patsy saying “we didn’t have a clue of who did do it” is very suspicious. The use of the word “didn’t” (past tense) instead of saying we “don’t” have a clue of who did it. So at the time they didn’t know, but now they do. I tend to believe that Burke did it and the parents covered up. Notice how patsy said, “I didn’t do it; John Ramsey didn’t do it” but never said burke didn’t.

[@bruceallensmith4491]

In her original first public interview I remember her saying "I didn't kill THAT child", not "my daughter" , not "Jon Benet". A way to psychologically distance herself from the victim.

[@sweetielady7710]

Bruce Allen Smith I remember that too. It kind of reminded me of Bill Clinton referring to Monica as “that woman”. You’re right; it’s a way of distancing. Very suspicious. Very odd to refer your own daughter as “that child”.

[@fredy3037]

Yeah, you’re just overthinking

[@devxre4779]

Bruce Allen Smith y’all r detectives tf.

[@bruceallensmith4491]

@@devxre4779 tf?

[@tinaayers90]

He did it! The parents just could not see loosing both kids at once!!!

[@rvpstudioscanada3991]

*WHY* is he smiling while telling about what his sister looked like when she was murdered?

[@evetthawk6899]

Because he did it

[@rotting-f0x]

It can be a nervous thing..

[@colleenfrancois1233]

rvpstudioscanada there is a disease that would cause that or nervous

[@cazzer5790]

My thoughts exactly

[@michaelslater6839]

Clearly, he was jealous of his sister the “beauty Queen”, getting all the attention. High probability that he got rid of her to get some of that attention! Terribly sad no matter who did it. Perhaps the parents figured it out and constructed a phony ransom note To protect what remained of the family. To protect their son. Perhaps they felt guilty for ignoring him?

[@vanessagrimaldi851]

this is creepy....

[@yowassup168]

Vanessa Grimaldi How's Nick?

[@marielmathew8534]

Cynthia Perez that's what I was thinking too😂

[@hrf6548]

this is indeed

[@arthurvanessen5390]

Vanessa Grimaldi ikr

[@Code1Lyoko]

This kid dude and his parents are weird and murders they should of been arrested or something cause what they did was wrong

[@AquariusStarSee]

I don't understand why people keep asking and interviewing them like their gonna say Yes I did it after 20 years

[@lghnnny9957]

Not expecting him to admit it but watching for the demeanor and inconsistencies.

[@briannotafan3368]

after dad dies & burke gets his inheiartance hel sing like a bird

[@watch2muchtv]

Aquarius Star they ask both the parents but not the brother . It was either the brother or the friend who played Santa clause.

[@AquariusStarSee]

@@watch2muchtv Nobody really knows what happened and I know it sucks if the world thinks you murdered your sister but didn't... We can assume but nobody knows

[@Atlanticalkaline]

They're not looking for a confession they ask for a reaction

[@josiejones1242]

Why is Burke smiling??? I strongly believe that Burke killed his sister over the pineapple. So his parents covered up the crime.Patsy paint brush with the rope plus Patsy wrote the ransom notes because it came from her note book. No one would come to a person house and had so much time on their hands to do all of this. They killed the little girl and Patsy could not sleep all night so she arose at 5 am to make the alarm the next morning. It's a shame that these people are NOT in PRISON. Look how Burke is smiling look at his eyes. He is the killer and he knew that he got away with it.

[@Sonar_125]

I also believed burke did it out of anger and since he was also a kid their parents didn't want the truth out and erased all the evidence so burke could live a normal life growing up.

[@tumadreguey8]

Who’s here from conspiracy Tiktok

[@niadrama2975]

He def killed his sister

[@laniyadawson6609]

bro me 😭😭

[@urdad7318]

@@laniyadawson6609 lol me too

[@anasaucedo969]

Ahahahaa

[@nyny4859]

Meee

[@dawnfizzle8771]

The way he smiled while describing what she looked like dead thats sick.

[@anieconramos9867]

There is something creepy in that family

[@vanessamoreira8264]

Aniecon Ramos ,,something" LIKE EVERYTHING

[@Yonatan2479]

u will understand if your daughter is brutally murdered and paparatzzi's kept annoying in the front of the house and you cant even find the killer and worst of all idiots who think that THEY WERE the ones killed her idiots like you would think that

[@lollypopbaum]

The father said something like: You have to let it Go..so weird

[@starchildslover]

i agree that there is soming creepy & dark about the ramsey family

[@squishyspud9636]

Yeah it's their son Burke. His smile hides dark secrets

[@SharonWhitfield-p2j]

I don’t think the brother did it.

[@zahungrysloth]

idc how awkward he is, smiling while talking about his sister's death isn't normal

[@pjaccountname]

some people's natural/neutral face is smiling. My natural face looks like I'm frowning, even if I am hot.

[@JokeroFall888]

@@pjaccountname I'm sorry I'm laugh at this 😐

[@Choco-Kat]

Everyone doesn't cope with trauma the same. If you were 9 years old how would you cope with your sister being murdered?

[@mahnoorahmad1690]

Chill out everyone copes differently

[@samdaman06]

I honestly think it was more of an awkward smile.

[@jordanthewizard]

Burke Ramsey's smile reminds me of Norman Bates at the end of Psycho.

[@cruisecntrl1355]

Jordan Herkowski exactly

[@deedeewinter3528]

Yes, me too, I thought of Anthony Perkns.

[@huntestorey8341]

Jordan Herkowski I just finished watching season 2

[@MCR-M8]

Hunté Storey They're talking about the film.

[@arlewislucas7611]

:(

[@andrimarbi]

“Idk if there was a bad guy in the house 😃” he doesn’t speak like an adult and the constant smiling is disturbing.

[@josephpulfrey4458]

The reason he’s saying it like that is because the story was made up for him to recite when he was a kid and he hasn’t stopped saying it that way.

[@baby5968]

He’s probably stunted from the trauma

[@kunhang4523]

that emoji killed me lmao

[@cocraine]

Some People smile to when talking about a dead person cause their trying not to cry

[@Nata-Nesa]

The brother killed her and the parents covered it up

[@pennsylvaniapatti1835]

Burke was a strange child, now he's a strange man.

[@Omo21000]

People are saying he’s autistic, & I think the smiling is a nervous thing

[@lindagrasse]

no he's not - he's a lovely young man that suffered a terrible loss

[@gamislatte5470]

burke was very cruel to jonbenet...he hit her with golfclub and smear feces in her bedroom...what a psycho.

[@pennsylvaniapatti1835]

@@gamislatte5470 he was probably jealous of all the attention she always got. How sad.

[@gamislatte5470]

@@pennsylvaniapatti1835 yess very sad indeed...he was very egoistic person and you can see he tried hard to change as adult..

[@gcalatafimi9245]

When dr phill asked did you hit her on the head with a flashlight he said no but he didn't look dr phill in the eyes

[@f5jay]

caught that...it looks suspicious...

[@y67nlm]

I noticed it too. Weird for sure

[@GigiFruit]

when people lie they tend to look at their listener's eyes to see if they believed their lie or not. this dude looks generally uncomfortable during the whole interview so idk... :P

[@ChucklePottery]

he is the one suspect that i think is the most possible killer

[@Diana-zl3ue]

He swears like he's going to confess now after all these years

[@neethuvalsan1774]

I wish Sherlock Holmes was real...

[@me7093]

Or mediums

[@alejandromarmolejo13]

neethu valsan if sherlock holmes was real, the government would have already killed him lol

[@lotterry7642]

Marmo Gawd Word hahaha

[@xxthatonegamergirlxx8636]

@@alejandromarmolejo13 the government shut down remember

[@brittaolson6550]

neethu valsan Me toooo!

[@angeliquekaptein5420]

He closes his eyes when he says he didn’t kill her.

[@camilaleyva218]

Why is he smiling while saying how she looked when she was found dead. He creeps me out.. ahhh I got the chills from him

[@daphneduryea9136]

The dad's kinda smiling as he speaks, too. Not as blatantly as the brother.

[@racheldemain1940]

Creepy isn't it?

[@bonitanelson1520]

Some people's faces seem always to be smiling, while others seem natural not to smile, yet are not sad people. We are not to judge people's hearts by their faces I don't think

[@emmamurray9609]

I know! Such a weird thing to do

[@mave143]

He's autistic. That's why he seems strange

[@manal-hh3xh]

I really truly believe that they all the three of them know exactly what happened to jonbenet

[@ariyaaluvsu1141]

Ofc they do cuz they killed her

[@natamacfie1214]

Yeah I agree

[@thelaurels13]

manal 1417 of course they do. To this day I’m convinced Burke killed his sister, albeit accidentally, but he killed her nonetheless, and the parents covered the whole thing up.

[@hawadiarra9470]

Me too

[@Antonjia]

There’s a documentary in 2 parts on youtube reopening the case and finding Burke guilty

[@gloriaradivojevic9221]

Only that little girl will ever know what happened to her. There is absolutely zero justice. How?

[@urafuknkunt]

Theres also the murderer.... they will know exactly what happened as well, most likely more so 🤔

[@keepingitreal5533]

This case is very simple. Burke accidentally killed JonBenet when she tried to steal his pineapple. He may not have even realized his own strength and ultimately went to bed. Patsy realized that JonBenet was unconscious and, in trying to protect her son, finished the job and covered it up while John was sleeping, including writing that ridiculous ransom note (with her own pen and pad.) That's why John seems genuinely innocent in all his interviews. I don't think he knows what his wife did. She died with that secret...

[@bethryan9077]

@@keepingitreal5533 To save him from the Trauma going on downstairs, Burke was taken to the Whites at 7.15 a.m., where their kids were present & some adult relatives. Burke was actually interviewed that very afternoon there at about 2 p.m., by detective Patterson who was at the Ramsey's house that morning. Neither of his parents were present for that interview that was recorded, nor did they know that was happening. Burke was taken to where the parents were at their friend's house & John told him then that JB was deceased. After that interview with Dr Phil & then the abysmal fall-out after that despicable Bogus CBS show was aired after that also in 2016, Patterson publicly defended Burke & stated on national TV that he’d conducted an interview with 9 year old Burke & he didn't know Anything at all & he’d been very worried that his little sister was still missing. Burke was interviewed again 10 days later by a police child service's officer, that took Hours. No lawyer or parents were with him & his parents had Allowed that interview to take place. The public have seen a few snippets of that interview, from shows on utube, the 'bits' that suit the agenda of the channels. Same in relation to the interview with a detective when Burke was 11. That went on over 2 days, no lawyer nor his parents were with him & again, his parents Allowed that interview to take place. Then, the poor Kid received a Subpoena to appear before the grand jury & off he went to do that Also, neither parent present & NO Lawyer there Either. N.B. - that was a black & white photo at the bottom of the page, Nobody could tell what the hell that was. Burke tried very hard to work out what he was supposed to see, eventually he said about a glass. That idiot detective kept saying pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. LOL. Burke thought that what was in the bowl may have been cereal because it looked like muck, in that photo. All items on that table were Staged by the perps, as were Lots of items all over the house. There were 18 Chunks of pineapple in that bowl. There were more than one 18s within this crime. Meyer's lucky number was 18. That bowl had the leftover icing from the kids & friends Xmas party on the 23rd, the bowl was with other bowls & containers on the table that had the lollies for the decorating of the gingerbread houses. In photos from that party, the bowl can be seen. Patsy bought a large bag of icing. That big heavy bowl was kept in a top cupboard in the kitchen. From whatever tabloid, book or utube show, people now say that pineapple & milk was Burke & JB's favourite. LOL. It was Not. Forensic science Proved that JB did Not eat Any of that pineapple. BTW - pineapple is Acidic, it would Curdle friggin Milk. They had all been up since 6 - 6.30 a.m. that Xmas Day morning & the kids played all day & with friends that afternoon & then again for half the night at the White's Xmas dinner party til about 9 p.m. JB fell into an Exhausted sleep when they got in the car to go home, making 2 stops on the way to drop off presents. JB was only 6 years old, she Did NOT Wake Up After That. Burke did Not say on the Dr Phil interview that he ‘woke up & went downstairs’ to play with a toy. He walked in the door & went straight to his multi-storey car garage that he was given for Xmas. His father went downstairs, helped him put that together for 15-20 minutes then took him up to his room & helped him get ready for bed. The kids Never went downstairs on their own at night. Burke had just turned 7 when he Accidentally hit JB with a toy golf club from a Backswing, it clocked her on the top of the cheekbone, he cried about it for a week. Nothing Else. The ever changing faeces Stories are Not true. He was Asked what he thought happened to his little sister in that interview 10 days later. He was friends with the White’s kids & the Stine’s kids who obviously were Not told the Details about all that happened to their little friend. As Kids, just like adults, they Speculate & they Overhear adults talking. The announcement through the media at the time was the True cause of death, Asphyxiation. The family were later told there was damage to the child’s skull. Both gross & Separate fractures were just After her death. As per, the hierarchy within the police do Not release all information, even to their own cops. The Fact is that the 1st fracture was Open front to back & nearly the length of the skull, the 2nd was a hole, the skull piece being split in 2 & inside. This total BS about a ‘bonk on the head’ grew legs because of Steve Thomas & his loon book of BS, that’s Why he was sued & then James Kolar did one better & said Burke did the head bonk. Thomas the twit was about to be fired for his despicable scenario & Kolar the clown Was fired for his rot with the added on BS coming from Jim Clemente in 2016 & so that farcical CBS show. One needs to Think about WHY that police Evidence of the 911 recording was put on a TV programme After the Ramsey’s book was released & they had appeared on the Larry King show in March 2000 where they spoke publicly about some of the cops’ failings. One needs to find out about Steve Thomas first though, the former narcotics officer, including that he constantly talked about the book he was going to write when supposedly working this case of a Child’s brutal murder. He said that Patsy hadn't hung up the phone properly & he said Burke could be heard saying something in the background. He accused the Ramseys of lying in saying Burke was asleep when that call was made. They were Incensed about that Next accusation & wanted to Hear what the cops were talking about. And, Thomas said Burke Only. The cops refused to let the Ramseys hear that recording. John & Patsy were So upset, they went on national TV & told the World what they had just been accused of & challenged the cops to cough-up with the tape. All went quiet. Please note, all this was After the grand jury hearing that took 13 months & where Burke was again questioned for a long time by the Special Prosecutor this time, Michael Kane. Next thing, a TV Show has the recording, Words are put on screen & suddenly it's supposedly All 3 Ramseys in the background. How amusing but typical form from that scumbag Steve Thomas who’s nothing but a Proven Liar, who’s only accolade before this murder case was busting a bike theft ring. He released his childish book, was promptly sued for all the Lies & lost every cent that he made from the public’s purse strings. He had then moved overseas with his tail firmly planted between his legs. When calling 911 Patsy was using the Wall phone in the alcove that was near that door by the grate that she called the kitchen door. John was reading the note over & over by her Then. In the Authentic recording of that call, Patsy hanging up the handset on the metal cradle that was at the side of that phone is Clearly heard, CLICK. IF the cops Actually had Any Ramseys in the background because Patsy didn’t hang up, the recording would have been played til the end & all would have heard CLICK. Under that phone on the wall, was a cupboard. If Patsy had put the handset down, all would have heard CLUNK. Here’s the thing, why would they lie about Burke being downstairs? He was Allowed downstairs! Yawn. And then there’s the Fact that the closeted 9 year old Kid, would have coughed up in a nanosecond that he was there when his mother made that 911 call. Why do tabloids print sensational headlines whether true or false? $$$. Why do 'authors' put a book together based on the same information from the magazines & TV shows? $$$. In the U.S., for the past 2 years, newscasts & talk shows have been getting out the info about the DNA again but they don't go into enough detail, too scared to be mobbed I presume. I see on utube, an explosion of podcasters pumping out shows since that time frame. They pump out the Same false & misleading information over & over again like well trained monkeys & many make up more garbage to keep all the Ramsey bashers entertained & Excited to be fired up. DNA is Science & science doesn’t lie. What I notice, is that only the Ramsey bashers Ignore that Scientific evidence. Of course, like soo much of the other Truth around this case, people have cherry picked what they choose to believe but at the same time, the Facts about the DNA are not detailed enough, thorough - being from the 1st week, unknown male DNA mixed with JB's DNA, under both of her pinkie fingernails. That was just the First results & it’s Known - Two unknown male DNA, several places on JB’s person. The DNA from one has been in CODIS since 2003. People don't realise that the cops do Not release the Case Evidence to the media & so, the public have No Idea what the Actual evidence of perpetrators in the house Is, nor do the public know all that Really happened to JB. People need to understand that this crime for money & revenge was very, Very well Planned. Everything was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if they called the cops. Just to clarify, there were Two severe skull fractures that occurred just after JB was strangled to death. Both were Precise & also pre-planned if the cops were called & so, all 3 weapons were at hand. That flashlight was Never a weapon used & did Not belong to the Ramseys. All the Stories about Burke, pineapple & the flashlight grew legs After that Bogus CBS show went to air in 2016. Lots of people Chose to believe that utter Nonsense because they’re not very Bright. FYI - Burke was Never even a suspect & that’s Why, within the Multitude of TV shows before 2016, he was never mentioned because the journos & presenters had No reason/cause to talk about him.

[@Kate365-w3n]

How would you explain the adn of the sexual abuse then?​@@keepingitreal5533

[@renlaporte]

@keepingitreal5533 who do you think tied her hands?

[@michaelprivett5625]

HE KNOWS MORE THEN WHAT HE LETS ON , THIS 9 YEAR OLD WAS VERY JEALOUS OF HIS SISTER AND ALL THE ATTENTION SHE WAS GETTING AND I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL THE CHRISTMAS HYPE AND HIS SISTER GETTING DRESSED UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS FERRY BELIEVE THE KID SNAPPED AND KILLED HER BY ACCIDENT AND THE NOTE WAS A PARENTAL COVER UP TO KEEP HIM OUT OF A MENTAL INSTITUTION

[@Reality-mo4gg]

100%. She also had pineapple in her system that the autopsy person said she consumed exactly before her death. Burkes fingerprints were the only ones on the bowl of pineapple that cops found the day of the crime, and before releasing this information to the public Patsy when asked claimed that she didn't give him any food during that time. She claimed that he was asleep at the time, but he himself claimed that he "was awake looking for a toy."

[@milk-boy]

“did u hit ur sister?“ breaks eye contact twice

[@dansweet2499]

I noticed that he is hiding something for sure.

[@maddieorkwis7122]

i literally said out loud “he’s lying he looked away”

[@Beachandpool]

He is a sociopath

[@TheKatarinaGiselle]

@@Beachandpool no, he is autistic.

[@rhiannonblackweir53]

@@TheKatarinaGiselle nah dr Phil said he wasn’t autistic. he’s not a very reliable source though hahahahaha

[@lisaowens5070]

Does it bother anyone else that this brother hasn't stopped smiling since the camera focused on him? Something is up. The father was smiling too when being questioned. The ransom note was written on the mother's notepad that was how many pages long? This is an inside job. The family is hiding a secret. I hope that poor child gets her justice.

[@emersonkinnally8211]

Lisa Owens and smiling is a sign of lying has well

[@lisaowens5070]

@@emersonkinnally8211 He acts like it's some kind of joke. The father AND the son. I wouldn't trust my back to any of them.

[@emersonkinnally8211]

Lisa Owens ik I’m just saying that is another thing

[@earth7451]

This is not normal.

[@CER0MI]

Just about the smiling part, I also smile when I'm nervous. It's a weird kind of smile that doesn't reach the eyes. This behavior seems to run in the family though, because the dad smiles similarly... Just a thought, idk... still very unsettling.

[@jacquelinebell7749]

Kidnappers would not leave a ransom note with a body left in basement of the home!

[@reshmashriyan5042]

True it’s like leaving behind an evidence.. and that too so intricately written note..

[@bethryan9077]

Known Facts - Alarm set 5.30 a.m., the Ramseys were to get on a plane for Charlevoix. Patsy found the note, raced upstairs, found JB gone & screamed for John & could only say about a note & JB gone. He said “call the police”. It was pitch dark, no-one around & they were terrified. Patsy called the Whites & the Fernies for Help. John Fernie called their pastor for prayers & comfort. The cops called 2 victim’s advocates to come. 2 got in the kitchen door when the Ramseys went to the Whites for dinner. They had broken in before & that’s why they knew where everything was & exactly what they were going to do. About 1.30 a.m. JB was choked with the white cord & tasered on her back in bed, wrapped in 2 white blankets & carried to the boiler room. When the cord was quickly released she screamed, a neighbour heard that because of the vent in the boiler room that was at the front of the house. Fibres from the cord were found on JBs sheet & are in evidence. They ran out a side door, down to the back & waited under a pine tree then went back in. They had run into the metal ladder & it hit the cement as they ran out. That was the 'crash' noise the neighbour's husband heard. Fresh pine needles came off one of their jackets & were found in the cellar & are in evidence. She was given a lot of water in the early hours, tasered & vile acts occurred. That was not a garrotte it was a complex bondage device & made by the 17 year old who was into causing fear & used electricity. Both these factors & position & so much water is why there is so much pee staining on the front of both undergarments & near to the waistbands. The carpet & underlay were cut out due to the pee stain & are in evidence. The nylon cord was bought as it had to be a bit slippery for the purpose. The knots were intricate & specific then a certain number of ties on the wood & then the 3 loops. When that was done the rest of the cord was JB's exact height. The tip of the paintbrush was cut off, used at her privates & never found because some deviants keep trophies. That was not a paintbrush of Patsy’s. JB was given pineapple fruitcake earlier & at 5.30 a.m. She did not eat any pineapple that was in the bowl, that was part of the staging, one of many. ‘The Stomach contains a small amount (8-10cc) of viscous to green to tan coloured thick material of no particulate matter identified’. ‘The Proximal Portion (top) of the Small Intestine contains fragmented pieces of yellow to light green-tan apparent vegetable or fruit material which may represent fragments of pineapple’. Arndt was there & told the ME pineapple was in a bowl. It takes 2 hours for stomach contents to go to the top of the small intestine. In Patsy’s recorded statement June ’98, Thomas Haney told her the pineapple in the bowl was Different to the fragments in the top of the small Intestine. When Patsy called 911, JB was strangled to death in a rage on top of the dryer in the basement laundry. Cops coming meant no money. There was a phone in that laundry. The one piece of tape was put over her mouth to stop fluids getting on their clothes & she was carried to the cellar. Then 3 blows to the head, 3 weapons & each is in evidence. The 1st - a brick on the top of the head that caused the huge open fracture down the length of the skull. The 2nd - a utility knife & small stabs to the skull in a shape. The tool used was broken off & not found. The 3rd - was the end of the steel kid's ball bat & that caused the hole that the stabs started. They had planned if the cops were called. They didn't plan that Patsy would stay on the phone calling friends to come & help. That phone on the wall was in the alcove near to where they had to get out the basement door & then their exit door. Glenn Meyer was the author of the note & he organised it all for money with 3 from the house on the corner. One had a huge grudge against John in relation to a family business in Michigan. All was set up to incriminate all Ramseys if no cash was paid. Their back-up for money was the taking of photos. Many items were brought into the house & staged. Many items were taken from cupboards & drawers & staged all over the house, basement & a few things outside. Meyer was secretly living in the Barnhill's basement across the road. He got to know a great deal about the Ramseys. JB's dog was mostly kept there & the kids & Patsy were over there often. Patsy gave the Barnhills many cards, letters & notes in her print writing over the years. It is easy to copy print writing & he only had to do Some letters like hers as it was Supposed to look like she was trying to disguise hers, which is impossible to do for near 3 pages & the Real experts know that fact. From his vantage point Myer could see through both staircase windows & knew Patsy & John came down the back stairs each morning to make coffee. The note was spread out so all 3 pages would be seen, they wanted their money. The notepad was taken at the Xmas party on the 23rd. Meyer went over saying he was looking for the Barnhills worried about them ensuring he was let in. John took him to where they were sitting & he stayed. The Ramseys didn't even know who he was. JB was never to be taken from the basement. SBTC & Victory is about a plane. Joe Barnhill was a radial gunner in WW2 & flew on the SB2C, Two - T, so SBTC. That was a famous bomber plane & lauded for bringing the war to victory. Meyer had a poster of that plane on a wall in his room, Victory was on the side of the plane. There is a photo of Barnhill holding a framed picture of that plane. From the advanced forensics, the private investigators who never gave up & as happens with lots of crimes, people talk eventually & that’s why so much is now known Plus because the crime scene techs who did an excellent job & taking all the photos & videos & collecting all the DNA. The Ramseys never put one foot back in that house ever again from after JB was found & they left. The trauma was way too much, but if they Had been able to, this case would have been a Very different matter for all involved. The discoveries were everywhere if the family would have seen it all with very astute investigators. Thomas was only brought into the case 3 days after because the investigators present refused to target the Ramseys. He was an ex-narcotics officer who had Zero experience with Any murder before let alone a ransom, which was the first crime. He thought he would make a name for himself from this high profile crime. His partner was an auto-theft officer. The BPD spent their time covering up their total incompetence. They rarely had a murder & this was their first for '96. They refused help from the FBI & the CBI. They put about misinformation & leaked certain photos. That amount of money was near John's bonus for '95 & was paid to him in March '96. The amount was on his pay stubs each month of '96. The suitcase was already placed under the window & the window opened for the 2nd time after the cops left. Both done as subterfuge. Same with the fresh green leaves that were dumped at the grate & some 'caught' under it. Lou made a mistake about that window, that's all. It was never an entry point. Early that morning, 2 officers did not go in the train room door & so through to the windows & 2 failed to pull open that cellar door. There is soo much more to this case that the public don't know about. The type of air taser used has been identified. The burns on JBs back & face are from same taser. The 2nd point was under JB's ear. The burn on her face was bigger because the point was placed there more than once - control. Google the murder of Gerald Boggs ‘93 Colorado. His autopsy photo shows the Exact same burns on his face, the 2nd point was on his earlobe. Those tasers were widely used by drug dealers in the 90s. The big underpants JB was found in were put on her in the early hours. Patsy, her sister, their mother & JB went to New York Xmas shopping. Patsy bought her niece a pack of 7 underpants from Bloomingdales that were called Bloomies. They were size 12-14 & had the weekdays on the waistbands. Patsy also bought from there 2 special Barbie dolls for JB. One had her own pair of underpants also called Bloomies. JB begged her mother for the pack of 7 so she had some like her doll. Patsy gave in & they were put away for JB til she would fit into them, about 8 years away. They were put in the back of a drawer in JB's bathroom. When they got home JB went to see her dog at the Barnhills & told them about her special presents. Meyer was ever listening. JB was found in the ones that had Wednesday on the waistband. It was a Wednesday that year for Xmas Day. Access the photo of the paint tray on the carpet. Look to the left a bit at the tray & up a bit, you will see a drawing of a sinister smirking cat's face/head on the carpet, as on the note - fat cat. That was not a nightgown of JBs found in the cellar, it was a dress taken off her life-sized doll that was kept in the corner of her room, but found in the playroom standing at a window. That bowl (with pineapple) was used at the Xmas party on the 23rd & had the icing for the gingerbread houses that all the kids were given & they decorated themselves. That was a heavy bowl & that was icing not milk. There were No fingerprints on that bowl. That glass had a dried tea bag & no tea was made in that. That silver ladle in the bowl came from a cupboard near the spiral staircase & was from a boxed set of 2 that the Ramseys received as a wedding present & had never been opened. That was chosen & placed because of the filigree that was the same as the filigree on some of JB's crowns. The Ramseys were finally exonerated in 2008 due to All the evidence that showed someone was in the house, over 200 pieces of & the DNA cleared them plus lots of others then & since. It is 2021, all is known & 4 involved have been identified, 2 are dead. The BPD are holding things up.

[@kaylin.coffee]

@@bethryan9077 wow, this is very detailed and seems to all match up. how do you know all this? this is mind blowing

[@bethryan9077]

@KaRi ThePrimeSpot The only reason people say the note was written After her murder is because of a particular cop who started all the BS about this crime & he wrote a book for Financial Gain & blamed Patsy because of a notepad. That was Steve Thomas & he was promptly sued for all his lies & lost every cent. But a whole Industry of BS from 'authors' began - soo many who said Whatever about this case for $$$. It turned into a free-for-all of 'authors' who wrote their 'version', I can't keep up with them all. All the garbage was transferred to TV shows & of course, onto Utube. It continues because the case hasn't been to trial yet & so, the public don't know the True Facts, Or about all the evidence that Proved the Ramseys innocent. I set out the True Facts about this case in that narrative that starts with Basic Known Facts. The perps brought the note with them when they got in the house. What did the note Say would happen if the cops were called? The threat was Very serious. The taking of photos in the early hours was their back-up for money later if the cops were called. Their other purpose was revenge against John. John Mark Karr fled to Thailand a while before this crime because of charges against him in relation to child porn. He was working as a teacher there for some time. He started contacting a college professor in the U.S by email & eventually said all many of things & that he had murdered JB. He also said he was watching a particular little girl there & named her. Because of these 2 events & the fact that he was wanted in the U.S. still for the child porn charges, he was arrested in Thailand & brought back. His story about the murder of JB didn't check out & his DNA didn't match that in CODIS, so he was released. He ended back in jail & whilst there, he had a sex change. You can Google the info about him, I'm not sure where he is now

[@bethryan9077]

@KaRi ThePrimeSpot Oh, OK, you knew about the change. I can't recall her name, Google will tell you, some write-ups there. I will explain the DNA & a bit more info about the perps. From the 1st week of 1997 til 2008, the DNA testing was done at 3 separate labs - unknown male DNA & Matching from - under JB's fingernails, saliva mixed in a spot of her blood in the underpants, touch DNA at 2 places on the waistband of the long-johns, on the inside & outside there. The DNA has been in CODIS since 2003. The FBI’s national database only accepts Qualified DNA. Further testing in 2016 with Advanced forensics - 2 male DNA on the long-johns, one is Hispanic. These 2 got in the house when the Ramseys went to the White's Xmas dinner. These 2 murdered JB. They left town within the week. One was 17 at the time & came from Puerto Rico with his family when younger. He is in a community still, when found, there will be an announcement. The other one was 24, a white guy & he was seen crossing the Ramsey's backyard when they left. Just one vital fact that has been pushed under the rug. This guy committed suicide in 2020 after being questioned. Glenn Meyer died many years ago. He was in the basement for a short time in the early hours taking photos & left. A Camel cig butt is being tested now. The 4th one was never in the house, so no DNA. He owned/leased the house on the corner, had the only car & was to get the cash from John. The black steel ball bat belonged to his son.