trisha paytas leaks voice memos from colleen ballinger

[@AdamMcIntyre]

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[@pennylynch913]

Hi Adam ❤ monkeys and i pray 4 u regularly. We haven't forgotten you. Xxx ❤

[@suomynonaanonymous]

What happened to your vma video?? I was halfway through then it said removed.

[@fabbroanna]

Colleen rocks!❤

[@heonniebee4679]

Adam, Charlie (penguinz0) just made a video on JoJo Siwa defending Colleen

[@fabbroanna]

@@heonniebee4679 I saw that.

[@heartofheather7041]

Josh has a right to speak out for sure! People were calling him an abuser because Colleen was lying to a bunch of kids to get attention.

[@Chante_jacksonn]

They even called him a pedo so he definitely deserves to speak his truth! Poor man

[@J97736]

Exactly. He suffered so much.

[@cieradelana]

exactly the situations go hand in hand

[@tanithschneider3051]

On their freaking honeymoon. She is such a bad person.

[@nars314]

@@tanithschneider3051 That is so bizarre to me that in what he viewed as one of their happiest times she was taking the time to spread those stories. Just like how very soon after having Flynn and the twins she was also doing similar toxic things. Who has time to do that? Especially when you are in some of the most pivotal and should be happy moments of your lives. Her priorities and motives are so freaking skewed it's just really not funny.

[@abimadewithlove]

JoJo has indirectly proved exactly what she was defending Colleen for.

[@OnTheGrind42086]

💰 power & fame…

[@nejah.6487]

what happened?

[@tilda4699]

“She doesn’t have unhealthy friendships with children and I would know bc we’ve been friends since I was 12” is such an unbelievable thing to say

[@deadsetondreams1988]

@@nejah.6487 Howie Mandel had Jojo Siwa on a podcast episode/ his YT channel and they spoke about her being friends with Colleen Ballinger. The general summary was that she defended Colleen and sees nothing wrong with what she's done. At one point while defending her she literally said she's been friends with her since she Jojo was 12 years old which is basically hypocritical. And she essentially called all the victims coming forward, liars. After seeing that I found out that she's apparently "friends" with a lot of creeps who have been canceled for grooming minors such as Shane Dawson, James Charles, and of course her dance coach Abby Miller. She victim shames and blames when she's being manipulated and groomed by many adults herself. It's incredibly sad to see, I hope one day she realizes that these people aren't her friends, they are using her as a character witness...

[@emilybunney6163]

@@deadsetondreams1988i was never entirely clear on what shane did, i wasn’t really on youtube during all that drama, what happened with him ?

[@victoria_is]

I disagree w Trisha saying that Josh shouldn’t have talked about the infidelity. I think the purpose of telling those things was to show how manipulative she could be and how deep he was in her web that things that would normally be bright red flags were easily disregarded. Just my 2 cents.

[@reiniamajiki4179]

She also used those lies to direct her thousands of child fans to antagonize him to the point of him needing a security team. In order to get the full picture of Colleen and her evil ways, you need to know about all of her character and tactics. And I honestly believe the most evil thing she did was manipulate and groom these children to be her attack dogs. And Josh knows all to well how it feels to be on the wrong side of Colleens fans. So if this is how bad Josh got attacked, imagine Adam or Becky or smaller creators who don't have access to security teams?

[@hazelmakenna7924]

I agree! Also with the way she sent her child fans to attack him because they didn’t know the truth and she was manipulating them as well and literal adult influencers

[@hedwigsgal78]

I agree with you 100% But Trisha doesn't want secrets admit spouses getting out. She's forced Moses to have s3x with her and left bruises on him. She's no different. I am not a Trisha hater. I was a fishy. I've seen what she is capable of. I believe this is self serving. But she's also a victim of Colleens. She has every right to talk admire what ever she wants. But she will always protect ppl like her. She is a bad human. I think she can be right and a victim but she's lso horrible.

[@Coffeegirl739]

He was portrayed as a villain but she was the real devil

[@fallenbee]

Not to mention he is a huge part of the story, Colleen convinced her fans that Josh abused her and that Josh cheated on her and then had them go spread that onto gossip sites.

[@OutcastDimensionTCG]

Josh wasn't just telling the story of their inter interaction with child fans, he was telling his whole story with Colleen. It's his story with her he has a right to say what happened to him too.

[@alycia4668]

But we have to take what an ex says with a pinch of salt. Remember that.

[@personincognito3989]

​​@@alycia4668Are you really that naive about this whole situation? There are others who have come forward. You can't generalize like that

[@alycia4668]

@@personincognito3989 So someone has come forward with an allegation of abuse?

[@abby_renee2395]

@@alycia4668the children were abused. Grooming is a form of abuse. Josh simply pointed out a pattern

[@alycia4668]

@@abby_renee2395 But what was the grooming? It usually has an end goal?

[@skylerp84]

I hope Trisha begins to realize that Josh speaking about being cheated on IS a part of the abuse he endured by Colleen. It IS a part of his story and it IS important. On top of that, a lot of the stories he told Swoop validates the stories that survivors like Adam have stated. So it is not taking away the spotlight like Trisha thinks.

[@Mia-tz9hc]

Honestly, I feel like infidelity _can_ often be abuse. With Josh and Colleen’s situation, it definitely was part of the overall manipulation and abuse for sure.

[@haroldharold9042]

@@Mia-tz9hcI really hope you mean “infidelity” and not “infertility”… 😂

[@Mia-tz9hc]

@@haroldharold9042 Oh no!! Yes I meant infidelity not infertility. Thanks for point that out!

[@friendwasslainbyhamudi5062]

Jojo’s mentality is literally “I ate yesterday so world hunger doesn’t exist. I have money in my pocket so homelessness is solved. I’m not disabled so there’s probably no other people with illnesses, my ‘friend’ never made it clear that they were grooming me from a young age so they probably didn’t groom anyone else.” Lol

[@princessofjedi]

Because she was raised in an enviornment where being literally bullied by an adult was seen as okay by a bunch of other adults who were meant to protect her. She refuses to learn what is and isn't right, she built up her little army of people who treat her like a proper adult while she acts like a child and she is going to defend them to the death even though they are WRONG. I don't understand why anyone is suprised by this, seh defends Abby Lee Miller despite that woman saying absolutely VILE things about JoJo on the show.

[@morg2040]

I feel like she has her own trauma and hasn't really realised it yet or if she has realised it she hasn't made any effort to try to get any form of help to both understand what happened to her and to also make sure she doesn't continue a cycle of abuse. I hope for her sake she does so something similar doesn't happen between someone and her in her own audience

[@AmyAberrant]

@@morg2040she needs sooo much therapy

[@minstac1530]

She's young still. It takes a while to register all of life's crap

[@braedynthompson8437]

It’s like when the middle class conservatives defend the rich lmfao

[@SkeletonGirly]

The voice memos are mentioned at starting 55:00 if anyone was watching specifically for to hear those

[@isabellacastellano6039]

W

[@aliviaschweitzer2995]

Doing gods work

[@caroljeeben7064]

Thank you.

[@boobadascooba]

the universe smiles upon you friend

[@OohLaLaurie]

You’re the real MVP.

[@lizzymitchell7303]

She isn’t sorry she sent pics, she’s sorry she got caught

[@demiemily]

I wonder how Colleen would react if it happened to her. She would try to burn their house down at the very least

[@elliesheridan8003]

​@@demiemilyshe'd get her stans to do it and then push the blame on them if that happened

[@rivkathegreat]

Exactly! She never even really owned up to anything. She just said yeah I got caught, now what

[@averya9802]

44:00 not going to lie I think Trisha was trying to shy away from Josh finally getting to set the record straight because she was one of those people that shamelessly attacked him back in the day when he initially tried to speak his truth. I fully disagree with her here, Johnny turned the context of the story away from colleen to Josh, Josh had every right to tell his story, the whole story, to defend himself

[@Saturn57]

Colleen also used Trisha to mess up with Josh when he got engaged. She told her a lie about Josh giving the exact engagement ring he gave Colleen to his new fiancè. Trisha went around and was retelling that story all over social media.

[@MariaSkaaren]

In JoJo's head, Colleen's actions are normal. Because every adult ever has probably treated her like this all her life😢

[@kristenp6132]

@@henny8883i agree with you but there’s also room for compassion. she was 12 when this started for her and even younger when you think about her time with abbey. she is ultimately a victim in the colleen stuff.

[@editaudioaesthetic]

⁠@@henny8883 Feel bad for her and hold her accountable. You can hold her accountable with compassion at the same time. And saying “she’s grown now” downplays the seriousness of grooming because she is still actively being groomed to this day and it affects you for life, actually, even if it wasn’t the case that she’s still in that abusive situation. Just because we also feel bad for her doesn’t at all mean anyone is going to stop telling her what’s what. We are the same exact people telling her she’s wrong and a victim blamer.

[@henny8883]

@editaudioaesthetic I never said I didn't feel bad for her, I was just genuinely asking where would one draw the line in general, Not just with her. I didn't victim blame anyone (Jojo did) I just asked a question

[@editaudioaesthetic]

@@henny8883 the line has already been drawn because everyone is still holding her accountable and no one is coddling her. We can all see exactly where this is going. She’ll become an abuser herself if we don’t put a stop to it.

[@taylorold6435]

She is literally still a child! She still has to learn and grow as a person and u are right this is probly all she has ever known. It’s sad to me that people see a 20 yr old girl who has never known a normal childhood and think shes inherently evil and wrong

[@sabincloud222]

the plot thickens. colleen literally has no shame and trish continually stands up for herself regardless which is sweet justice

[@DanielleStarry]

oh, shoot. is the Trisha Paytas pendulum swinging back into public favor?

[@Jemma29]

What about Mr Riley. Where’s his justice? She loves to talk about others to take the attention away from herself and her own bad behaviour.

[@brighthael953]

@@Jemma29and she always gets away with it bc somehow everyone forgets that she’s not a good person

[@sarahbee2318]

May or may not have been drinking tonight and read this at “sweet juice.” Will now and forever be referring to the realization of bravery/confidence in women as “drinking the sweet juice”

[@sabincloud222]

@@DanielleStarry trish 100% has her fair share of problematic past behaviors and grievances. with that said, i can also acknowledge it seems that she has been doing real inner work to mend those things which is more than can be said for the majority of her peers. the way she has been treated by colleen is horrendous and the way trish has responded since speaks volumes. she has handled this with more grace and maturity than we’ve ever seen from her. colleen views trisha as subhuman, disgusting and made her a laughing stock for her fandom. the fact that trish has been so integral in her downfall is a kind of poetic justice. the person she viewed so lowly is part of delivering the final blows.

[@Justme-ep3rc]

Colleen has done such a good job with her grooming, JoJo feels like the exception. She’s different. HER friendship with her is REAL. Trisha is right, Rose colored glasses.

[@marythecontrarian]

No hate to Trisha but you can tell she does not like Josh and is making up any excuse not to praise him or find problems in what he said. I didn’t really have an issue with a single thing he said in the interview. Very classy, he explained why he did things but did not use them as excuses. And his pain is valid, he never said it’s worse than the minors she groomed.

[@TenaciousTheSketcher]

Agreed. Thier is a heavy bias there and because of it she's trying to make it seem like his experience is somehow taking away from Adam's or Becky's or Oliver's and all the other victims of Colleen.

[@talia9525]

Yeah that really bothered me. She's minimizing the fact that he was a victim too -- and was for years. She doesn't have to like him, but man, show some respect.

[@nars314]

I commented back in 2016 or 2017, whenever Trisha went on her Josh rant, that she owed Josh an apology for how she treated him. I was hoping now that she can see and realize how much manipulating was done by Colleen with her, she'd be able to take a step back and realize she actually has a lot in common with Josh when it comes to how Colleen treated and used both of them. Overshared about both their bodies/sex lives to minors, told fabricated stories to others to paint them in a bad light, made them both believe she liked (in Josh's case loved) them when in reality she came across annoyed and bothered by them, and shit talked both of them to basically anyone she could get to listen and believe her lies. It's not too late, Trisha. You did Josh dirty more than once, all for Colleen.

[@B_r_a_n_d_i]

That's how Trisha treats all straight men. She's admitted she does not like straight men!

[@personincognito3989]

Yes her behavior was immature. He was a huge victim.

[@brandypurtlebaugh]

Josh’s honeymoon story is so truly heartbreaking, I don’t think I could every get over that kind of hurt & betrayal.

[@gabimaza780]

Is no one ever gonna bring up all of Rachel’s bad takes she’s had and the bad behavior she part took in with Colleen?!

[@ayybeecee09]

I was wondering the same thing!!! When are they going to talk about Rachel??? She was a part of many tours with Colleen during her live shows… hmmmm

[@Eaastty21]

@@ayybeecee09gurl catch up they already apologised

[@emiphia]

@@Eaastty21you better not be talking about the ukulele song 💀

[@Eaastty21]

@@emiphia nope

[@Eaastty21]

@@emiphia and Rachel isnt even in the ukelele video?

[@MO-uo4nj]

"I don't think JoJo's that egotistical" *has a car covered in pictures of herself*

[@missliss2581able]

It is literally the most obnoxious car I have ever seen

[@anditspaganpoetry]

Lmaooooo

[@ccgrey8731]

To be fair the car is likely just a promotion prop not likely her personal car but I could be wrong.

[@AmyAberrant]

@@missliss2581ableit looks like those images on fairground rides

[@amaega]

I'm a therapist, and I think we confuse 'friends' with friendliness. We can be friendly with someone without being friends due to the relationship already being defined within a power structure e.g. therapist/client, teacher/student, mentor/mentee doctor/patient. We can still be warm, friendly, kind with someone who we have a defined relationship with, without being 'friends'. I think more of us need to get this.

[@plumberofamerica]

Very good point.

[@maevab2923]

I feel like Josh was friendly to Johnny, but he was never his friend

[@amaega]

@maevab2923 agreed. After watching Swoops doc, it's clear Josh had an inherent understanding of the boundaries while being friendly. Some folks have trouble understanding implicit social cues, which it appears Johnny experienced (to be generous and without knowing John).

[@dbr311]

Totally!

[@haybale287]

Exactly. I've seen people do this SO often. My mother is like that, and would go as far to stop going to specific doctors or something whenever she'd realize they weren't friends. It's a little embarrassing.

[@cheerkira]

I have a 5 year old daughter. I’ve been going through the hardest part of my life going through a divorce from her dad, and I’d never weaponize her. Children are innocent in all these. Don’t drag them into adult crap. I worry about those poor children daily

[@willowreese9919]

Good job mama!! She will appreciate that later on, you've got this girl!!!!

[@rubylove2820]

Yes! Preach this! There are still good parents out there 💕 In 10 years you’ll thank yourself for your strength now. You got this X

[@LisaLee__]

I did the same with my angel. Unfortunately her father took my kindness and used it against me. Now my angel is in middle school and believes horrible lies about me. I wish I would have done something to mitigate this situation in the past. Children should never be weaponized. Please have a talk with your ex and lawyers if possible, have paperwork signed. It may not ever be an issue, God willing, but just in case it would be great to have paperwork signed where neither one of you will disparage the other to your child/children.

[@the_mirabela]

That’s really awesome your kids have such a strong and healthy minded parent ❤ Hope you have a great rest of your week 🤗

[@megs3019]

Josh deserved to speak out and have a voice for once and finally. Him telling his story makes it very clear what type of person Colleen is.

[@emmas381]

Agreed. I’m not sure when it was collectively decided that adult victims of abuse weren’t important or relevant.

[@HS-ie8tj]

@@emmas381Trisha is known to have beaten Moses so… she can’t condemn Colleen’s abuse of Josh bc her own behaviour will be brought back up.

[@megs3019]

@@HS-ie8tj that was a rumor. There’s a difference between facts and rumors. All this about colleen is from soooooo many ppl.

[@mandymchale2767]

watching this w my bf and when adam said “why is she using her kids” he goes “why wouldn’t she? she always uses kids” 💀💀💀

[@plumberofamerica]

Exactly. She's obsessed with using kids in transactional ways and she also strikes me as a woman child emotional maturity is so stunted she seeks out teenagers for her peers

[@dreamlamp4333]

bro 😭

[@missrespectful]

I’m sorry, this “desperate” argument coming from James and now Colleen… who’s going to tell them, that’s gotta be the WORST response you could possibly give. MASSIVE self report!

[@33fragola]

🎯

[@hintrachelle]

Your mom is so sweet. I knew she watched you when Colleen abandoned you but her pretending she just ran into you is so sweet. WE LOVE MAMA MCINTYRE

[@purrplexitty]

I remember finding Colleen because she was brought up during the Gabbie Hanna drama over her behavior during Escape the Night filming. And they described her as "the most wholesome person" who was never in KZbin drama. I remember loving her because of the whole ordeal with the twins. Man, how times have changed. I really hope all of this doesn't affect her children too much. :(

[@ShugoCharaNerdz]

right !!!! i still am waiting for joey to speak on colleen especially since he was praising her like crazy during that drama

[@arianamitchell7050]

the twins have a chance at anonymity, her eldest…. i don’t know. i have zero hope she’s going to keep them off the internet, they’re her cash grab and her image repairer

[@AlyssHarte]

Tati Westbrook was given that moniker too and look at how that turned out 😂

[@demiemily]

SAME HERE. Her vlogs were so calming and wholesome, I still sometimes don't want to believe everything from how sweet her kids and family life looked. But the cracks were there sadly, and I was too sucked in to believe it

[@KalyEadlyn]

Same, I'm really worried cause I was a fan and now she won't take accountability so... that's a bye for me. But Flynn and the twins worry me a lot, I really hope their parents find a way to let them grow up free from all this drama and actions and bad stuff. I really hope they are OK and moving on to the better.

[@mbacree]

jojo's continued association with these horrible people sort of makes sense when you consider her environment growing up. she's been conditioned to accept abuse from mentors and public figures (abby lee miller comes to mind) from a crazy young age. if she chose to recognize it and condemn it, even in just one person, she would basically have to reframe her whole reality. reminds me of jennette mccurdy still defending her mom in her early twenties. she just wasnt emotionally equipped to rewire her brain yet even when the truth was clear. platforming predators is absolutely inexcusable, and she should be held accountable, but i cant help but feel some pity too? processing the reality is going to be a really long and painful journey for her, its just not fair that her emotional immaturity is hurting others now

[@Liv-jy5ki]

Ugh i agree so much my exact thoughts

[@sierrabird3817]

I’m hoping once she turns 25 or 26 around there something clicks and she realizes what has happened in her childhood. It was around that age when I began to fully realize how fucked up my childhood was. It won’t take back the hurt she’s causing other victims now but maybe then she will realize she needs to make a public apology to them🤞🏻

[@princessofjedi]

Exactly this!

[@kristenp6132]

not to mention her own mother. putting her through all of this and being complicit/ monetizing her daughter. i’m sure her family has a huge role in this.

[@litttlepigboy]

this is exactly how i feel about it tbh

[@TheGhjbkl]

The comment about Erik's role in the in-person meeting...I think it hits hard because it's yet another adult who did nothing. Learning about everything Colleen has done, you ask. "where the hell were all the adults?" And the sad fact is they were everywhere. Erik didn't stand up to Colleen or protect Adam in any way. Erik is a father now. Ask him if he'd ever allow one of his kids to meet up wtih an online influencer as a young teenager. We all know what his answer would be.

[@tsmith6250]

His answer would be whatever Colleen told him it should be.

[@sad.jackfr00t]

His answer would probably be yes considering he likes to take things his kids say and turn them into sexual songs about the first time he saw Colleen.

[@DrAndromeda]

Putting aside Colleen for 1 sec, I really want to know how James still has a platform. Over on tiktok, people LOVE him. The collabs with him are practically being force fed to us.

[@miraza.]

because cancellation is an illusion tbh

[@Spaced0ut000]

TikTok is very accepting of horrible people

[@shanel4294]

TikTok is catered to what you engage with so only people who like James and his content are seeing and supporting him

[@RY-nd4jh]

Capitalism rewards abusers

[@FrodoLuver1]

unfortunately, i think a lot of his fans on tiktok are children so they either don’t know what happened with him or they’re so young and impressionable, they don’t think anything bad happened or can’t even compare what he did. which is terrifying that a person who has, on at MINIMUM two separate occasions by his own admission, groomed young children has so many children looking up to him and being a fan of his. his tiktok fan base is his new victim pool

[@cutespooky]

it totally makes sense why colleen would bring up not being able to see her kids to trisha in an attempt to manipulate her, because she knows how trisha feels about being a mom

[@adventureisntfar]

Oh wow this makes the voice memos make more sense. She's using the most important thing in her life against her.

[@scarywaffles2385]

JoJo's defense of Colleen is actually really sad. She's been taken advantage of by the adults around her for her entire life. This situation is a crossroads for her, either start to realise that this isn't right or continue the cycle of abuse. I hope she gets the help she needs before more people get hurt.

[@wonwooosh]

I really want Trish to sue Colleen

[@Julia_beelll]

She definitely has a case. Is this revenge corn?

[@DRMC02]

@@Julia_beelllidk if it counts as that but it definitely is distributing corn to minors

[@Julia_beelll]

@DRMC02 Yeah, that makes sense

[@samanthajordan1817]

I have a feeling that is in the works

[@Chyna904]

@@Julia_beelllit’s most definitely revenge corn, now each state might have different policies on it, but soliciting anyone’s nude photos for any reason especially in a malicious form is deemed revenge corn and illegal!

[@shaggysbiggestfan6750]

my thought is that Trisha didn't understand that Swoop only did the interview with Josh to begin with because of the Johnny allegations that were being played off as as serious as you and Colleen, and was not just an interview to have a conversation about Colleen. Also anyone willing to speak out about their own trauma and take accountability at the same time, when all of this happened so publicly, deserves the opportunity to do so. It can also give him and others potential closure.

[@sunshinerainbows3759]

I think the fucked up way JoJo was brought up has her so mindfucked that she is actually a victim too…. And she doesn’t even know she’s defending her abusers… she doesn’t even realize how messed up the things Colleen , Shane etc have done really are.

[@animeloverforever8304]

I feel similar because she’s been literally surrounded by groomers since she was a little kid no wonder she’s taking the wrong sides

[@j-rodthelibrarykid1166]

you know who defends pedophiles to the death? other pedophiles.

[@Rain_Reign]

I third this. She never had a chance to have a normal childhood, and no one was protecting her. It’s not exactly an excuse for her to be defending these folks and calling Colleen’s victims liars, but I feel it is some kind of explanation. It makes my internal mama bear ROAR. I just hope that she doesn’t perpetuate this behavior with other kids into her own adulthood.

[@j-rodthelibrarykid1166]

@@Rain_Reign the more you guys downplay and defend it, yes she could.

[@ICECHAMP]

Jojo was abused back when she was on dance mums Not just by people around her but by her own parents for letting it happen That’s where it started & she can’t tell now what is abuse Or she can but hides behind her brand to make her feel better on the matter

[@hxlloem]

I remember JoJo had the sane mentality of “my experience was great so yours didn’t happen” when she called out Christi from dance moms for sharing an experience she had with Gianna

[@caseyflemming6257]

Yep! And invalidating abbys abuse towards all the other girls is disgusting its always kind of bothered me!

[@jcmille12]

But isn't that just human nature to base her views on personal experiences with these people

[@ssh1487]

​@@jcmille12no

[@youreinvalid8493]

​@@jcmille12yes, to an extent. You should be able to acknowledge other people's pain and the fact someone who is "nice" to you caused it. Saying someone was nice to you is one thing, saying someone was nice to you so they're nice to everyone is different and incorrect. Jojo called everyone who came forward liars purely because Coleen was nice to her.

[@cheeryberrie]

​​@@jcmille12 jojo and you need to understand that the world doesnt revolves around you, your world? Yes, THE world? No

[@Bxoo0420]

Jojo is in a groomer cycle. Plain and simple. She was CLEARLY a kid when she met her. NOW, Shes 20 and has her own little group of CHILDREN, under the cover of a music/dance group. ZERO TRUST to have her around more children when she cant even see the problems with her own childhood👏

[@skylerp84]

My heart breaks just thinking about young Adam wandering Dublin worried about not being able to find his family because he was abandoned by someone he thought was a trusted adult. Edit: shout out Mama McIntyre ❤

[@eva6750]

I think it’s safe to assume that Colleen manipulates and gaslights everyone in her life.

[@Misty_Dawn]

I wish Trisha would actually play the voice memo’s. It would be such a powerful move on her part and the truth couldn’t be denied after that. There would be no question as to what all Colleen has done then.

[@alycia4668]

What has Colleen done exactly? Because in all of this, there is not one allegation of her physically abusing a child or even trying to meet privately with a child.

[@Dellaaavic]

​@@alycia4668what does that have to do with anything? Also... she literally met up with underage Adam 💀

[@alycia4668]

@ncola She and Adam were part of a group of friends who worked on content together, please don't misrepresent the situation. She never met with him for anything bad or sexual, and you're trying to imply she has. It's literally cruel at this stage. Imagine every conversation you ever had twisted to something else. I don't know what's wrong with you people or why you need these campaigns so much

[@whenthemoon]

⁠@@alycia4668 Just off the top of my head, in no particular order: 1. Created an environment where children as young as 12 were encouraged to talk about and listen to sexual topics with a full grown adult (ie. grooming) 2. The incident where on one of her tours she had a very young girl spread her legs on stage, the girl in question later talking about how unsafe she felt afterwards 3. Sent nudes to underage fans 4. Send lingerie to an (underage) teenager 5. Doing a weird and completely inappropriate amount of oversharing to underage fans (topics ranging from venting about her divorce to talking about intimate acts with her husband) 6. Asked a bunch of underage fans what their favorite position is Just because she never physically did anything (that we know of) to a child does not mean that she is innocent. Grooming does not need to involve physical acts, and this is a perfect example of that. What Coleen has done is completely disgusting and morally reprehensible. If you can’t see the many, many issues here, then I pray nobody leaves their kids alone with you.

[@dollfie774]

​@@alycia4668she has physically touched minors in shows and videos wym?

[@mhl6951]

I'm loving that this Colleen situation isn't dying down!! She deserves all of this.

[@bakugoukatsukitheonlyrealo383]

Same I'm glad that people keeps talking about it to because I was a fan of hers when I was underage and the scary thing is that it could have been me 😖😣

[@bb_30252]

Yes!!! Because Colleen probably thinks she has a slight chance to come back but nooooo we won't let you!!! Take her down!

[@AndyMcBlane]

Kids probably wondering why there isn’t a camera being shoved in their face anymore

[@mondler107]

LOL we know now that it still was 😔🤦‍♀️

[@demiemily]

Colleen really has the AUDACITY to say she doesn't see her kids, when all she did was film them (if she wanted quality time with them, she could have stopped filming at any time)

[@a_little_demon]

hope someone takes her kids away from her ! colleen's a horrible mother !

[@bb_30252]

​@@a_little_demonalways thought so. It was all so staged.

[@farrahp1569]

Watching Trish and Adam apologize to each other gives me hope for humanity. Watching Trish grow from the person she was to the person she is now PROVES that people can change. But they have to choose it. And Colleen isn't choosing it.

[@Kalena0982]

Just pressed play… Colleen really messed up with Trisha

[@Coconutca]

Trisha is milking this for views. And people are giving them because no one has anything to watch since the strike.

[@bribri8042]

@@CoconutcaOk- if you can say that about Trisha, you can say that about Adam. He’s 100000000% the victim here, more so than Trisha. But Adam makes a response video/reaction vid to every fucking video that’s made about him or the situation. Like, c’mon.

[@yesterdayitrained]

@@CoconutcaUm, no. There is no ‘content blackout’ - you can watch whatever on YT, numerous streaming services, from any country, and movies are playing in theaters. The strike is only affecting the creation of *new* Hollywood-based content. The strike has no impact on YT.

[@CrystalCat24]

​@@Coconutcareally? You're using the strike impact?😅

[@j-rodthelibrarykid1166]

@@bribri8042 don't like it don't watch bitch lmaoo

[@st1nkylulu]

I wished that people would mention Oliver more, his story is so incredibly disturbing and there has to be repercussions for Trents behaviour.

[@badkinsiscool]

I respect you so much for just noticing a mistake and immediately apologizing for it. It's literally that simple.

[@nicolejordan5977]

We are all supporting you as always Adam! Glad to hear you are journaling and being able to process

[@Daisydelamor]

Colleen will do ANYTHING to not pay for a therapy appointment

[@NicoleSpacek]

I’ve been silently following (but not commenting) on this situation for a while now, and I just, Adam you are an incredible human. When you were talking about the trip to Dublin and thinking about all the what ifs of the situation, my heart was so heavy for you. I’m so angry that an adult put you in that situation and didn’t do ANYTHING, let alone the bare minimum, to protect you. I know everything is a lot to process and will continue to be in ways you might not even know yet. Thank you for continuing to share and speak out. Thank you for sharing your vulnerability and thoughts while processing the trauma. It might be weird to be proud of a stranger but I am proud of you!

[@413078291]

I hope Colleen IS banished!! Sheesh! Trish is right, this isn't a cancel culture issue. It's not drama, it's dangerous.

[@willowcordelia]

Colleen blaming her grooming minors on just being a “loser” reminds me of James Charles blaming his talking to minors on being “desperate”

[@Kristi1287]

Yes Trisha… that IS a manipulation tactic to tell someone you’re not eating and not seeing your children. She’s still so clueless sometimes.

[@allison257]

You don’t say? Trisha is far from intelligent and people want to act like she’s so smart because she knows what she’s doing, enough of the excuses for Trisha’s behavior. People think that Trisha is untouchable because she had a kid, I don’t care if you had a kid, got a pet, whatever, you need to be held accountable for things that you have said and done to cause harm to other people I for one will never forgive Trisha for the awful things that she has said about Jewish people and the mockery that she has made out of the trans community by cosplaying as a non-binary person. The fact that people were played by her goes to show how effed we are.

[@Kristi1287]

@@allison257i agree…

[@angrybunnies9664]

I get the impression that Trisha has jumped from toxic relationship to toxic relationship, and has been toxic that it's hard for her to tell when she's being manipulated.

[@moonchild645]

Props to your mom for stickimg around and watching your back in case something exactly like what happened, happened. Just goes to show that your parents were in fact always watching out and making sure you were protected to the absolute best of their ability.

[@shae9364]

I don't know if ya'll know this, but JoJo had a kids card game/board game that contained a lotttttttt of "Groomer" question in it. Things like, "Is there anyone in your girl group of friends that you secretly want to kiss?" Or something like that, etc. ADAM, PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS.

[@B_r_a_n_d_i]

Omg!! I have one of her boardgames. Idk if it's question based but I will check it.

[@miriamhavard7621]

😮

[@AbnerAvila-l6u]

Lets not forget Jojo Siwa villainizes her exes on social media knowing very well the power she holds on her fans. Her fans ver often attack her exes who have much smaller platforms than Jojo.

[@glittertea2025]

What has she done? Not doubting just genuinely curious what she’s posted about them

[@youreinvalid8493]

​@@glittertea2025she accused all of her exes of using and manipulating her. We don't know what happened behind the scenes, but I personally don't agree with sending fans after them when she has millions of young fans.

[@glittertea2025]

@@youreinvalid8493 yeah I’m sure every single ex is the problem 🙄🙄 that’s messed up

[@DeMinimusMs]

You're always so well spoken and able to make your points so clearly and vividly. You bring up topics and points that I never even considered, even after having dealt with my trauma from being groomed too. Your response videos to this always make me feel safe to think about and deconstruct my own experience.

[@justathoughtmyfriend1403]

I was one of the viewers of Colleen vlogs primarily starting around 2018 when she had Flynn and never really watched the Miranda character. She seemed wholesome enough from the vlogs alone so I was indeed deceived. But I do recall after she had the twins, the fans called her out on how she was undermining and trivializing Eric's traumatic experience during the birth of the twins. He was trying to share how in detail about what happened from his perspective and how little support or acknowledgment the husband/spouse goes through when a traumatic birth like that happens (their daughter almost died during the birth premie and they had to perform CPR to get her to breathe). Makes me wonder how those same fans feel about all of what has been revealed. It did seem like the folks who called her out noticed a trend in her treatment sometimes to Eric, so it's allegedly not isolated. There are times Eric doesn't really understand Colleen's behavior.

[@mmanda515]

I realize there would be 3 children seriously impacted if charges were filed, but this isn't just Colleen saying a bad word or something. This isn't drama, it's a dangerous illegal thing(s) she's done. Imho, to truly hold accountable & set the example (& tho I realize she'll prob never do it) I still honestly wish Trisha would at least file a report w/ the police about her nudes etc being sent to minors.

[@Mhaigalodon]

41:45 It’s so painful listening to you talk about Eric in this way that…like you’re desperately searching for the adult in the room, and he’s just like, nope.

[@arianamitchell7050]

i frequently think about trent and those horrifying dms. that man needs to be INVESTIGATED

[@TenaciousTheSketcher]

Trisha missed the mark on so many points. Josh's story about Colleen intersects with her grooming. She used children to go after him and made up lies that she spread and used to destroy his life. It's all a pattern of hers and Josh's story validates Adam's experience when he was getting flack.

[@J97736]

Josh deserved every right to speak out.

[@kayla123ism]

That’s sad Trisha has been hurt by so many people she called friends that now she automatically says “they don’t like me! They hate me” before they even talk really. She’s so scared and it’s sad

[@clownbabyzz8495]

I rly do feel sadness for her. Imagine your nudes being used as a joke by your supposed friend who played w your baby. Idk man. I would want to crawl in a hole and die.

[@Taywanee]

@@clownbabyzz8495yeah she is a terrible person and has hurt so many vulnerable communities with no remorse or apology, but she still didn’t deserve this

[@Taywanee]

@@DawnMaria no. She hasn’t.

[@Binstabih]

@@Taywaneepretty sure she does when she talks about rehab but it should’ve been a standalone video i guess

[@tuh-my-ruh]

if i’m correct when Adam was under colleens spell that he did post stuff ab Trisha not in the best light so that’s why she said “he doesn’t like me”

[@fluffymendoza6242]

Why is Adam for real the goat

[@kelseybuccholz3738]

Haha huh? This kid was a groopie his whole life. And now his career is talking shit about other people. It’s weird.

[@TL-mc6lz]

The thing about Jojo that people maybe fail to realize, is that she has been adultified by the entertainment industry. It's a rampant issue that happens with most all child entertainers, the people around them who are much more used to working with other adults, begin treating the child as an adult much earlier than normal, and because they likely are smart and they are able to pick up on the interpersonal workings of the adult world at a faster pace than most children. In order to be successful, they have to mature early. It's highly possible that Jojo doesn't even see herself as a child at the age of 12 like we all do, because of how she had to be savvy to be successful in the industry. Jojo is now old enough to realize that loyalty to those undeserving of it is useless, so her upbringing really doesn't give her a pass anymore, but it does add context and explain a lot about why she keeps doing this with her problematic friends.

[@dogmom7712]

Josh has every right to speak his truth ❤

[@Trae4499]

I watched the Josh interview and I have to say, I commend him on how well he handled the hard questions with still being respectful of Colleen. He has grown so much and after all these years getting HIS story of his chest might give him the final closure to that chapter he needs. I applaud him.

[@jimbomyboy9679]

Oh my god I am not looking forward to hearing more of Colleen's bullshit, I can't imagine how you feel listening to it, Adam. Stay strong, dude

[@nvvrmet]

NEVER CLICKED AN ADAM NOTIF SO FAST IN MY LIFE

[@SentientHoodie]

Howie's parody of the apology was amazing. I love that he wasn't falling for jojo's defense

[@matianaa7408]

I discovered you from Trish but I literally love your videos now , you’re literally getting me threw school rn !

[@downbeatdialga1341]

“I don’t see my kids anymore…” this coming from the woman who had no issues bombarding other people’s children with perverse shxt and matters from her own life. Like, this is to say instead of spending time with her children as a good mother should, she chose to traumatize other people’s kids?!

[@KathrynMasrona]

Never clicked faster in my entire life

[@kenziejane6151]

it is not a cancellation, it is a crime. lies do not invalidate truth. johnny does not invalidate adam.

[@babiemama953]

Eric has always given me a weird vibe. Like hes trying to do the "tortured artist" act. Always drinking liqour and smoking...always acts like hes annoyed. Definitely gives the vibe of being short tempered imo. I watched a lot of the vlogs as Colleen and I were pregnant at the same time and I needed a support of some sort. Had to quickly dip because she was consistently crying and being dramatic. I also had a horrible pregnancy, but I couldnt with all that drama 🫠 love you Adam!

[@Meowhappie]

If you don’t mind me asking what would she cry and complain about?

[@babiemama953]

@JB-wt4wi she had a rough pregnancy. Which is totally understandable, however it was every-single-vlog. Im not exaggerating. Every vlog she was sobbing and whining about being pregnant, and it was just unwatchable after a while. Throwing a whole pity party every day while a lot of women would do anything to be able to be pregnant. It was ridiculous

[@lilfairykiki122]

Idk much about him but he’s a homewrecker so I’m not shocked he’s not Prince Charming lol

[@babiemama953]

@lilfairykiki122 although we're talking about 2 consenting adults, I always found the power imbalance interesting. He was working for her and her production when they met and hooked up. Seems like Colleen only takes partners that she imbalances in some way. Never a man more 'famous' or more successful. Interesting.

[@lilfairykiki122]

@@babiemama953 oh for sure, still think he’s shady but anywhere else a boss would be fired for hooking up with their employee.

[@NatTalks01]

it's not surprising to me that Jojo stood up for Colleen, if she accepts and understands that Colleen and Rachel were inappropriate w her she has to accept that every adult in her life was inappropriate with her/abused her/took advantage of her and no one ever had her best interest in mind. I don't think she's ready to deal with that unfortunately so she keeps making excuses for all these predators

[@OriginalJamieAnne]

Jojo is 20. The brain finishes developing at around 24. Jojo was groomed FOR this industry. Jojo has been a BUSINESS WOMAN since she was a child. Her childhood was replaced with adult responsibilities so she doesn't realize she actually is still a kid. Once she walks around with her developed brain for a few years, her eyes may start to open.

[@djjjii5624]

I’m 20 and I know that child predators are not a safe thing to promote to children. Adam has said this same thing so many times as he’s also the same age. Colleen might have groomed Jojo, but can you say the same for Shane or James? She may be young, but she’s old enough to know better

[@violettefemme21]

At the end of the day with Jojo… she was groomed too. Her entire adolescence was being abused in the media. She defends whatever the dance teachers name is still. She needs a lot of therapy to work through alllllll that nonsense from the dance moms world to the KZbin world she then pivoted into.

[@spaceunicorn6000]

"When are people going to start trusting me?" Never. You're pretty, and you're genuine, and you're smarter than most. People are gonna be condescending and judgey with you. There's a saying that goes "birds peck at the best fruit."

[@rileyates]

“People throw rocks at things that shine” -Taylor Swift

[@CrystalCat24]

Great point, Adam. I know you gave that same disclaimer about Trisha , "i know shes done bad things, and "you don't have to agree with everything she stands for", "she's been problematic in the past". I also think its hilarious that you are psychic lol, but i think you can predict videos because you have learned to foreshadow and be a good judge of character which is huge. ❤your videos, cant wait your big move!

[@DizzyME13]

Darn, for some reason I had it in my head she was actually going to play the voice memos like she had recorded them and decided to release them now. That would be so great if she did that!

[@andotherlawstories3095]

I think it‘s illegal to upload voice memos without permission of the person or maybe Tisha will get copyright issues. Maybe that’s why she didn’t play them.

[@DizzyME13]

@@andotherlawstories3095 oh yes you’re probably right, I didn’t think of that!

[@nikkicooper5256]

Believe it or not I think Joshua said it best during his interview with Swoop.... no one was there protecting you and there should have been. One of those "adults" should have said/done something to stop her. Sending love to you Adam and all of Colleen's victims. Stay strong I know this has been so difficult to go through again

[@breadgirl9806]

The Jojo thing is so complicated because I personally believe that she is a child victim of brainwashing. However, she is an adult now, and her allegiance to child predators is currently endangering her child audience. I hope that Jojo gets therapy and will realize what really happened to her, but by then the damage to the children who worship her will be done. The victim to perpetrator cycle is the worst. I’m mad at Jojo, but I also know that to be “deprogrammed” she is going to have to rethink every relationship she’s had with adults as a minor. That realization might be so painful that it’s easier for her to be in denial about it.

[@Looshfarmer]

The treatment she had from adults, to get her career to where it is, should not be normalised. I can understand it is for her.I’m not sure I agree with children being treated as sole earners for a family as it is. But anyone in that industry should be speaking out and trying to change the horrible culture in it. Speaking out, may make her look very differently at the adults around her, so her team may discourage and shield her from doing so to protect themselves. Which is abuse of another type if that occurs.

[@youreinvalid8493]

I agree with this, except for the fact she also promoted James and Shane after everything that came out about them.. if it was just Colleen, I would agree that I feel a lot worse for her.

[@DeadkeyWonders]

Big agree. She was clearly messed up by everything that happened around her, but Jojo isnt a child anymore. She has the full capacity to be critical and pursue the truth and is actively choosing not to do that. Its sad that her childhood was damaged by being forced on TV and her association with these people, but people are continuing to treat her like a sweet little girl when she's a whole ass adult actively chosing to defend predators

[@breadgirl9806]

@@Looshfarmer Fully agree. I empathize, but her predator “friends” are going to hurt her audience (aka children). Also, the current victims of her “friends” are going to feel like their trauma doesn’t matter. It’s so f*cked up, and she needs to be held accountable.

[@breadgirl9806]

@@youreinvalid8493 Yeah it’s nauseating and awful that she still supports them. You can be a victim and a perpetrator at the same time. Jojo’s friend group makes it clear that she is both. She needs to be held accountable.

[@rcar16]

I dont understand why Colleen did a podcast with Trisha knowing all the shit she talked and made fun of her. I'm glad for Trisha's sake it was only 3 episodes. It would have been more crushing if it was a whole bunch of episodes.

[@Danyell1980]

Colleens like that with everyone. Hell, she married a man that she shit talked constantly. It's very odd behavior.

[@ripabigfatoneforme]

@@Danyell1980yeah she HATEDD josh, it was crazy to watch

[@myfairytalelife3]

37:09 Erik didn't seem to care that Colleen was married to someone else, nor that he was also in a relationship himself before getting involved with Colleen so I doubt he cared about who you were, why you were meeting Colleen, what you were going to do together, when Colleen would ditch you so he could get back to the hotel, how you were getting home, or anything else.

[@mackenziemertz9426]

I’m only 5 minutes into the video and I can’t stop thinking about how you’re giving very much Velma from scooby doo, like go offfff adam

[@MeganSin]

Colleen is like a munchausen by proxy mom. All the issues started with you poisoning things from the start. Also I agree with everyone that Josh airing out the cheating (both physically and emotionally) was necessary because give context to not only their relationship but her view on things and people and how easy it is for her to use manipulation (which she ruined the word manipulation for me because now all I want to do is sing manipulation station ugh) it just shows the levels of her willingness to deceive which is coming back to bite her.

[@samo2172]

Ohhhh this is gonna be one hell of a ride 😭 I hope you've been taking care of your mental health though Adam. Sending lots of love, you're one of my favorite channels. I find it super comforting to watch you, it's like hanging out with a friend. Keep up the great work

[@DanielleStarry]

please please never feel that way about Adam or any other KZbinr ever. that is what leads to shock and disappointment when it comes out they did something wrong or they do something the audience doesn't agree with. adore and appreciate his videos all you want, but we don't know him and, ultimately, Adam is just another stranger on the internet

[@ellietidwell5105]

i think they were just being nice! not that serious

[@DanielleStarry]

@@ellietidwell5105 they sounded like one of the typical blind fans who would delude themselves into believing Adam was innocent and framed if he was caught on camera committing a homicide. There are other ways to express kindness and support without sounding like a parasocial nut

[@DanielleStarry]

@@ellietidwell5105 everyone who considers a KZbinr a “comfort creator” is unwittingly opening their naive ass up and throwing their critical thinking skills out the window

[@samo2172]

@@DanielleStarry Sorry for liking a KZbinr dude, I can be critical of Adam if we disagree on things but I genuinely find his videos nice to watch when I'm eating alone because it feels nice to hear someone talk. I think he's a nice guy but you're projecting an insane assumption onto me, someone you also don't know on the internet

[@drewberriesandcream]

Every single time a person accuses you of something you haven’t done and would never do, they’re literally just telling on themselves. it’s purely projection.

[@LillyOkCool]

I disagree with this at least for “every single time” I’ve definitely accused people I love of doing things they didn’t do because of past trauma. Maybe that’s still in the same realm still? Telling on myself that I’ve been through something and am seeing similar signs even if they’re small? But still haha Maybe just semantics but I wouldn’t want my loved ones to think I did something I may have accused them of out of fear and trauma (which ofc is a problem that needs worked on lol but it’s not quite as bad as having done the accusatory action yourself)

[@drewberriesandcream]

@@LillyOkCool that’s still a form of projection

[@clownbabyzz8495]

That was sweet of trisha to do that. It's nice to see her do something good.

[@Coconutca]

It’s self serving, don’t fall for it.

[@yesterdayitrained]

@@CoconutcaTrisha-hating troll identified. Please believe you have better things to do than this. Because you do. You get 1 life- do you want to spend a good portion of that (finite) time being hateful?

[@xvdct]

she's handled this situation really well all things considered

[@Grincheypoo]

​@@Coconutcaexactly right

[@erika2m16]

Two things can be true at the same time. Trisha can be self serving and still do good things

[@SalemAddams]

I'm a mentor for my 12 year old neighbor who've I've known since she was a baby. I'm now 24. I've known her Grandparents who've adopted her since I was six years old. I have baby sat her since she was young. She has a hard home life and she comes to me when she needs someone she trusts. I do have parental permission ALWAYS!!! Her parents trust me and appreciate when I get her out of the house for a while, take her for a walk or do an art project with her. I've known her since I was a child, and even though now I'm 24, I'm still a part of her life as a mentor, like an older sister, someone she can trust and always knows will help guide her in the right direction since at home she doesn't have that support. Being a mentor is one of the best things, and I'm very grateful to have been able to have an impact on my neighbor in a positive way, be there for her in the way she needs me. When all of this started people started talking very down about anyone at all who had any type of relationship with a child and was a legal adult. Which I as an Autistic adult took it as I was a gross person for whenever I helped my neighbor with her homework. But then I realized the public is just in shock right now. There are good people in this world. Boundaries need to be respected, parental permission is always needed and there are right and wrongs. As long as one is doing things in the right way and being there as a mentor in a positive way I think that's very beneficial and not harmful like what Colleen has done. So I thank Trisha for saying what she has about mentors.

[@joshua376]

Thank you Adam. I have an hour break and this really made it enjoyable.

[@sirduckykins]

I said this in the h3 chat but I cannot even look at Colleen without feeling sick anymore. I really hope all who are affected take care of yourselves, the truth sets us free and wishing you all the best vibes and hope the healing can begin for all of you ❤

[@gingersnap22]

I'm only part way through, but when Adam said Johnny's name it reminded me that he was suppose to come out with a statement or something. Has Johnny ever addressed Swoops doc? I'm curious how he'd defend his crap.

[@ljb5163]

Despite Trisha not handling this situation well at the beginning, she actually is doing all the right things now by continuing to talk about this on her platform and even drawing parallels to James Charles. Lots of big KZbinrs in her old circle are staying completely silent about James and even supporting him still.

[@erika2m16]

It's an improvement for sure compared to how she'd handle situations before. I just wish she'd keep the same energy she has for Colleen and James toward Shane!!

[@terencebok]

Trisha is a Court Stenographer’s nightmare with that speed of talking

[@katierox94]

And a drama channels worst nightmare because they can’t watch it at 1.25x speed 😅

[@SylvieZ]

Adam is streaming it at 1.25 speed. Turn the Trish parts down to .75 speed and she will sound normal

[@terencebok]

@@SylvieZ I ain’t doing that like it’s the volume nob on my speaker😂😂

[@renaissancewoman3770]

She's got talent!

[@cloudsncats]

Lol I’d like to imagine they use her as the final exam in court reporting school 😂

[@Emymagdalena]

18:30 the difference with a mentor relationship is it is not a two way relationship. You mentor a child, the child doesn’t mentor you back, you don’t talk about your personal life or problems with them and expect them to have the same emotional capacity/responsibility to hold that.

[@awfulcreature3224]

i snort whenever "and you did it at my birthday dinner" is whipped out, it's permanent fixture in my human soundboard

[@lilliputianhitcher3808]

can’t believe mosses made a great point

[@EMurph42]

The thing with Trisha is she the embodiment of things I hate about how shallow America is. Being famous bc she’s famous, etc. I can’t help but like her. I’ve tried to hate her but I cant. she might be all the things but she’s authentic. I believe what you see is what you get. She’s too honest & it’s refreshing. She’s beautiful.

[@mmmmmmmmaria]

same tbh

[@aracely1198]

I literally can not study without having one of your videos in the background. I have ADHD and I struggle to find any podcasts/music that keep me both engaged but also don't over distract me. My college grades wouldn't be where they are without you dawg. Gotta dedicate my degree to you at this point fr

[@folkloreofbeing]

There's channels on here that create music for ADHD and concentration. Give them a wee go. They help me.

[@VAL420]

My man came in and asked if you were channeling Velma energy and now I cant unsee it. LOL