Adding sugar to cold process soap recipes - How to make sugar syrup and use it for soap making!

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

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[@brightchange6065]

I did the math on this ... I'm a chemist. There are 48 teaspoons in a cup. I made a simple syrup of 1 cup sugar (48 tsp) and 1/2 cup distilled water. It melted down and made 1 full cup of syrup, which is also 48 tsp. So the concentration is 1 tsp sugar per tsp of syrup. It's not more dilute than 1 tsp of straight sugar. It's a simple concentration, 1 tsp sugar per tsp of solution! So if your recipe calls for 1 tsp granulated sugar, use 1 tsp of solution and you've got it!

[@pushkardivedula162]

As always, slow, calm and to the point. Thank you for sharing, Elly

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you Pushkar, I appreciate that.

[@A.l.l16]

Hi good night can i use this in a salt brine soap and or salt soap !​@EllysEverydaySoapMaking

[@Soul.7]

Ha haha, we are in alignment! I made this sugar syrup for the first time 3 days ago, following a food recipe, to use for soap making. I used 200g white sugar to 240g filtered water, and simmered it until it thickened a little like runny honey, keeping its clear transparent colour - no caramelising, I tasted it with my finger, and it is as sweet as honey.. I put it into a small 250ml glass bottle and the fridge, and was advised to use it up in 1 month, though I guess this is for food use. Sugar syruping for soap is just a good idea - it means you can add it easily to the water for the Lye, or directly into the oils at trace. The way to go for introducing bubbles, and lather - and an excellent simple cheap additive for 100% olive oil Castile type creamy soaping. I have only been doing this 3 months and I’m now obsessed, wanna make some soap every 3 days. 🤪 🤩 ✨

[@kathya739]

Love your enthusiasm! Is there a benefit to thicken the sugar, instead of just dissolving the sugar?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Brilliant! Yes the sugar syrup is handy especially if you are using liquids other than water for your lye solution and don't want to add sugar as well. Thanks for your comment!

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Not that I know of Kathy, the water is just a vehicle to dissolve the sugar.

[@kathya739]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking Thank you Elly.

[@bangkokdriveseyeview6948]

I love the way you teach 🥰 I spend my time on your video from the first. Thank you for the knowledge and experience you’ve shared.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you so much

[@yuyigb]

yes!!! Same here!!! ❤

[@cabdiraxman5572]

i have learned alot from you ,and u r my mane soap making teacher so thank u

[@kellsgreenidge8885]

This makes so much sense. I always add sugar powder to my water before adding my lye as it also helps keeping the fumes down. Thanks for sharing.

[@kimrawls5955]

I just received a bottle of Lavender infused sugar syrup from a friend. This episode is giving me ideas. Thanks so much for your tips and tutorials.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Oh interesting! Probably not much lavender will come through in the soap, but if you want to use it, it wouldn't hurt I don't think :)

[@juniorusa7246]

Should sugar be added to milk soaps or is sugar for non milk soaps only?

[@KiahNaturalsBathCo.]

This was great! I have yet to try adding sugar to my soaps, but I look forward to trying it!

[@laripope7660]

Thank you! You again made understanding the percentages easy

[@kimberlymkart]

I found your channel yesterday, I haven't tried making soap yet but I've been wanting to for a long time! Thank you for such informational and clear videos, and also your voice is so lovely and soothing! :) maybe I'll finally be brave enough to pull out all the soap making supplies I bought and give it a try now

[@ConnorLeader-b4o]

i added sugar granules to clear melt and pour soap untill dissolved and added honey as i wanted honey and sugar soap and the lather is huge what a difference sugar makes 😊

[@ChocolateMelanin]

This is interesting 🤔 I’m going to try it this way & see how it boosts my bubbles. I normally add my sugar to the lye solution. Thanks for sharing 😊

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

It will work the same way :)

[@A.l.l16]

​@EllysEverydaySoapMaking hi fellow soap maker here can you use a brine solution and sugar or in salt bar soap

[@vivianrivers467]

Love your channel!!!💖 Thank you for sharing Elly!!!🌟 🧼 I always enjoy watching your videos!🥰

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thanks Vivian!

[@barbaramundy5039]

A brilliant idea and an easy way to mix the syrup in. Thank you for sharing. 😍😍

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

My pleasure 😊

[@brandonsookwah9435]

Thanks for the hard work

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you for your support. :)

[@blackhands301]

You are such a great teacher. ❤

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you! 😃

[@jonahdodd3920]

Thanks so much for the video! I just finished your "Choosing oils for soap making" video and this is an awesome supplement!

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

You're welcome! Thanks Jonah :)

[@birdmoon3593]

thank you Elly, i used to add sugar as a powder in the lye water before making lye solution and it works. But i'll try your method soon. again thank you for sharing 🌷

[@CraftyKhandy]

I have learned so much and truly appreciate the manner which you deliver this info. Thank you!

[@nerinat8371]

Excellent idea Elly, thanks so much

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thanks Nerina, you're welcome.

[@robertschneemann3164]

Hey thanks...new soap maker..you're amazing 👏

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you! 😊

[@revathicherian300]

Hi Elly..... Loved the video... Thank you for teaching me something new... Lots of love from India

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

You're welcome Revathi, thanks for watching :)

[@Soul.7]

Would love your thoughts on this Elly, about sugar and trace. I made some soap yesterday using coconut, rice bran & castor oil with a water ratio of 1.5:1. Added 1tbsp sugar syrup, kaolin clay, oatmeal flour, indigo pigment, and I spatula stirred mainly to emulsify, stick blending for no more that about 30 seconds. Then once I added the 15g essential oils (peppermint/eucalyptus) last thing, & started stick blending, the 1000g batch seized up almost immediately, into a huge thick unmoveable ocean wave lifting out of my bowl. So this is what they mean by acceleration eh? In a crazy rush I grabbed a loaf mould (my 12 cavity mould was not gonna work), and scooped most of the soap batter in like a mad woman. Even before I put it in the warmed oven (CPOP) covered with a cardboard top, I saw already a big central translucent gel phase rectangle covering most of the batch. Looked amazing, to see so quickly! And I’m sure there will be plenty of quirky air pockets to be found when unmoulding it later as I had only seconds to press the mass down. So, full of questions now - what caused that? The water discount, the aloe/water mix for the lye solution, the SUGAR SYRUP, the rice bran, the temperature (95/105f lye & oils)??? Trace was definitely powerfully speeded up for sure. I think I will ratio the water to lye back to 2:1 next time, and super fat at 5% instead of the 6% that I used. Sooooo much to learn. Got me a beautiful green soap loaf though, and an unexpected adventure and a half. Phew! 🤩✨

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Wow, you had some fast moving there! Glad it worked out. Those batches can be fun though they make your heart race. I'm not sure what it was, probably a combination of all factors you mentioned, and coconut oil if you used a lot of it. It always traces super fast. You made a HP-CP soap!

[@boop7313]

Great idea preparing it this way, thanks Elly!

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thanks Holly!

[@boop7313]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking 🙂

[@DawnOrganics]

Thanks for the video Elly, this is very interesting indeed! I think I may try it! 🙏🙏🙏

[@discernment_daily]

Good day, regarding the recipe on your website what batch of soap is this good for i.e. 1000g? Trying to understand what adjustments are needed for various batch sizes

[@danoneill2846]

sweet

[@kajolgolchha1326]

Amazing way mam you explained very well really understanding. Thank you ❤️ mam

[@chaseriderthetruthchaser5988]

Thanks for sharing this tip, because I always add sugar and salt to my soaps.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

You're welcome, it's simple but I find it easy and effective.

[@elenazagorodnia8360]

Hello Ally. Is there a way to calculate water and lye, for bar soap, without internet? Specially when oils can change. Thank you.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes there is! But you need to know what the saponification values of your oils are, and learn how to calculate them manually. It can be done though!

[@elenazagorodnia8360]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking Thank you

[@Rosemary-lg8sf]

Thank you Elly👍

[@karinjudge7277]

Thanks for the video Elly :) I usually just add sugar to my lye water. Works good for me. :)

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes that's a great method too! The sugar syrup really comes into its own when you're using liquids other than water for your lye solution and want to keep the sugar out at that stage.

[@cynthiajennings7875]

Hii Elly, do any of the other ingredients (water) need to be adjusted for the added syrup? For example, if I'm using 354g water for the lye mixture, do I reduce the amount of water by the 18g of sugar syrup I calculated is needed? Or do I just add the 18g sugar syrup to the original recipe? Thank you!

[@marionlacey1074]

I enjoyed this video Elly, as I always do. I normally add sugar to my lye water and dissolve before adding the caustic soda. I didn't know about using sugar syrup and I will give this method a go. I am assuming I will need to reduce the amount of water in my lye solution. Thank you for your helpful instruction. 🐾🥰

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thanks Marion. Yes, you can reduce the water a bit. It's only a small amount so I don't tend to worry with my already low-water soap.

[@anjanaashwin4692]

Hello :) Thank you so much for this video! I have a doubt: do you treat purees the same way? As in do you add only 1-2% of the soap batter's weight of the puree?

[@ilhamnurani8284]

Thanks Elly..

[@AlpacaRenee]

Cool! Great tip!

[@pamlambert7181]

Thanks for sharing. I have a question since this is in water do you have to do a lye water discount?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes, that's a good idea.

[@lindacajigas3315]

Great video! Maybe this is where i can find my answer. Can i use maple sap in my soap? I'm tapping my maple tree and thought of using some of the sap in a soap recipe.

[@belindaayewoh437]

Great idea Elly! Could you also add salt to this making sugar & salt syrup?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Hmmm, not sure about that. Possibly! I like your creative thinking. I think it's probably better to keep them separate, unless you are making the exact same recipe all the time (which I never do!).

[@bobbijoREV3.10]

Thx for giving calculations for us in the USA … bcz I don’t have anything to measure grams … time to buy some equipment (only been 10 yrs haha)

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Do you have a kitchen scale? They can usually be set for grams or ounces :)

[@bobbijoREV3.10]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking No, but hopefully soon!

[@ginzgee7032]

I’m watching right now ❤️ from Perth WA 😊

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yay! Thanks for watching :)

[@elainem7722]

Thanks, Elly. We don't have to worry about this syrup going bad if it's in the fridge a long time?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

No, it will keep for years.

[@elainem7722]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking That's great! Thanks.

[@jessicajones3091]

Is there a way to store bars long term like 3 years plus maybe using a vacuum sealer bags and putting them in mylar bags?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I don't think bags would help. Getting the recipe right with long lasting oils/fats/butters would be the best option.

[@safi456]

This topic is getting more and more interesting 😃 Thanks for that Elly. Would adding sugar be just as useful in shampoo bars?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes, I'm sure it would be!

[@safi456]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking just curious. Is there any reason why you don't make shampoo bars?

[@delizianaturally]

great video, I'm thinking this would be the same for salt

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Strangely enough, I like to add salt into my lye water (it won't discolour or caramelise), or use sea water, or just add fine salt into the oils or the mixed batter. Many ways!

[@meenashah2311]

Thank you mam you are always so helpful. I have one request have you made any soap with steric acid

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Hi Meena, no I've never used stearic acid, but have used ingredients that are high in stearic acid (soy wax)

[@peacebeauty8297]

Most times I add citric acid to my distilled water before adding my lye. With that can I still add the sugar syrup? Thank you so much for helping me through my soaping journey. You are a great teacher❤️🥰

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you :) Yes, you can just add it all to your lye water if you want to.

[@lizthedisjointedzebra692]

Awesome video!!! I always try and incorporate sugar in some form into my soaps, I love using local organic honey, and different fruits and vegetables. But a simple syrup is a fantastic idea, especially for colored soaps, I wonder if it won't discolor as much as honey does.

[@kathya739]

We eat local raw honey for allergies and other health benefits. Would be interesting to add to cold process soaps for skin benefits, also. Do you notice an increase in trace?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thanks Liz. Simple sugar syrup doesn't discolour the soap at all in my experience.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

You probably wouldn't notice an increase in trace, but the overall saponification reaction will be faster (eg. faster to gel, will get hotter etc.)

[@lizthedisjointedzebra692]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking oh that's fantastic as I love making vibrant soaps sometimes, thank you so much for the tips!! I swear, I think every single video of yours I have watched has given me great ideas and tips for soap👍😊

[@Soul.7]

@@kathya739 Interesting question about sugar and trace. I made some soap yesterday using coconut, rice bran & castor oil with a water ratio of 1.5:1. Added 1tbsp sugar syrup, kaolin clay, oatmeal flour, indigo pigment, and I spatula stirred mainly to emulsify, stick blending for no more that about 30 seconds. Then once I added the 15g essential oils (peppermint/eucalyptus) last thing, & started stick blending, the 1000g batch seized up almost immediately, into a huge thick unmoveable ocean wave lifting out of my bowl. So this is what they mean by acceleration eh? In a crazy rush I grabbed a loaf mould (my 12 cavity mould was not gonna work), and scooped most of the soap batter in like a mad woman. Even before I put it in the warmed oven (CPOP) covered with a cardboard top, I saw ready a big central translucent gel phase rectangle covering most of the batch. Looked amazing, to see so quickly! And I’m sure there will be plenty of quirky air pockets to be found when unmoulding it later as I had only seconds to press the mass down. So, full of questions now - what caused that? The water discount, the aloe/water mix for the lye solution, the SUGAR SYRUP, the rice bran, the temperature (95/105f lye & oils)??? Trace was definitely powerfully speeded up for sure. I think I will ratio the water to lye back to 2:1 next time, and super fat at 5% instead of the 6% that I used. Sooooo much to learn. Got me a beautiful green soap loaf though, and an unexpected adventure and a half. Phew! 🤩✨

[@GrandmaMarlayne]

Great Video!

[@kukumaku6975]

Is this true sugar substitutes glycerin?

[@angelaonyejekwe4933]

Is it normal sugar they use eat thank you for sharing

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes. Just plain white cane sugar.

[@Fiiscreativemoods]

Can this be used for making glycerin soap from scratch

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I'm not sure if you need sugar syrup for glycerine soap? I've never made those.

[@siobhancooke2161]

I suppose you could also use golden syrup in soap recipes. I find mine crystallized as I don't use it quickly enough through baking. So using it in soaps is a good way of getting to use it up quicker before that happens.

[@mysikind8076]

Do you buy your golden syrup, or make your own? If bought one doesn't know what the ratio is? Would that make a difference?

[@siobhancooke2161]

@@mysikind8076 I buy it. Might try a small batch of soap with it and see how it goes.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes I think it would be nice, would add some colour to your soap though. It's more concentrated, so stick to 1-2% of oils.

[@ontarioweddingofficiant9691]

how many grams of this sugar syrup would you add to the coffee recipie?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

1-2% of the total oil weight for that recipe :)

[@ΔΕΣΠΟΙΝΑΠΑΠΑΪΩΑΝΝΟΥ-β5μ]

SWEET VIDEO!!!!🍥🍥🍥

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thanks! :)

[@CinnamonBear-xv4eq]

Elly have you used sugar syrup in liquid soap? If so did you notice an increase in suds?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I honestly can't remember, but no, I don't think so. Might be worth experimenting.

[@esintial]

Question....I have used a store bought sugar soap for hand washing for years. It seems moisture rich. Is sugar moisturizing or less drying in general?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I think the oils and other elements of the recipe are more likely to determine the feel of the soap than sugar would. I don't think it's particularly drying or moisture adding.

[@g.m.mughal7278]

I add pinch of citric acid in sugar syrup to avoide crystalline the sugar

[@Marshirmarshir]

Thanks for the tip. Will adding the sugar syrup help make my soap hard as well? Can I use this instead of sodium lactate? Love your channel ❤️

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Hi, no it won't add to hardness of the soap. Choosing the right oils is the best option for that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jF7YdYOfm9VmpJI

[@Marshirmarshir]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking thank you so much!

[@christinaathanasiadou7731]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking BUT WOULD IT MAK IT SOFTER

[@mashaeli9802]

Thanks dear for sharing this info 🙏💕 can I do this method with salt ? because I’m using sheep tallow & ghee in most of my soaps and they are little bit soft even if make them with hot process method 😅

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes, however I'd be more inclined to make a brine solution for your lye water as I explain in this blog post www.ellyseveryday.com/ellys-everyday-blog/multi-batch-cold-process-soap-making-three-recipes I would also look at other aspects of your soap recipe before trying to improve the hardness with salt. Are you using too much water? Too many soft oils? Are you giving them a good 6 week cure time? I hope that helps :)

[@mashaeli9802]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking thank you so much for blog post 🙏💓I’m sure its very helpful , I calculate my recipes in soap calc & saopee, in the calculation it gives me 40, super fat is 15%🫣 maybe this the problem? , the water is 36, & I await for 6 weeks, maybe because I live in hot weather 🤔 Saudi Arabia in summer reaches 46c and sometimes more . I will keep searching where is my mistake 😓, have a nice day dear god bless you 🍀🌷🌸

[@belindaayewoh437]

Yay! Another tallow soaper!

[@mashaeli9802]

@@belindaayewoh437 😂 I love it, its soft on my sensitive skin + we have lots of it in Pilgrimage season

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I'm not sure I'm understanding your figures correctly, but a 15% superfat is quite high, and perhaps your water amount too high as well?

[@nattamused9074]

I am hoping to make a simple soap if lard and lye water soon, but I’m seeing through the internet that lard soap has a reputation of being a poor latherer. I’ve seen that sugar is supposed to help with that. Do you have any other tips to help my lard soap bubble?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Add some coconut oil :)

[@angelaonyejekwe4933]

How many days lye will last in the water before using it to make soap

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

A long time, but I don't know an exact timeframe. I think for most people it's easier to mix fresh lye solutions.

[@BaumgartBathCo]

Oh my goodness! 😅😂 No wonder my lye water turned to a gel. I tried your rosemary infused soap and I used sugar syrup at 100% for my lye water 😂😂😂😂 Having said that, it took ages to emulsify, didn’t overheat at all and the green is morphing into a dark army green 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ChocolateMelanin]

100% 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I shouldn’t laugh tho.

[@BaumgartBathCo]

@@ChocolateMelanin Please feel free to laugh because I did! I also recently did a honey & oatmeal batch using coconut milk in oil method and accidentally added the milk TWICE. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@helenellsworth9556]

One said that she puts in the freezer for 5 hours and in the fridge overnight and unmolds the next day

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes some recipes use that technique.

[@helenellsworth9556]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking yea with sugary in it 😊

[@bobbijoREV3.10]

That’s probably what I need to do when making cold process MILK type soaps! I normally mold, then put in fridge overnight, but with adding the sugar too, I may have to use the freezer 1st for a few hours also 🤣

[@George-ui4gr]

So many grams should add when making soap,please

[@omomar1034]

Hi I already have a syrup with a little bit of citric acid (prepared for sweets). Can I use it for soap making and how many grams do I have to add if I want to make 1 kg of olive oil soap and when to add it. Kind regards

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Hi, that would be very tricky to calculate. This post explains how citric acid needs to be factored in to soap recipes www.ellyseveryday.com/ellys-everyday-blog/how-to-make-soap-using-up-old-oils

[@beverlyfrancis8433]

would corn syrup/karo be ok?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I've never used it, but worth a try!

[@bhawana8427]

Can we add this in liquid soap?

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes, definitely!

[@nebachris256]

Please Eli am from Cameroon following you're method to outnumbered the traditional method in my country. Thanks for your method i have been having this question which are. Why are you not using sulphunic acid in your liquid soap , why are you not using foaming lather and carbonate in you're soap

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

I've never heard of those ingredients! I'm just a basic home soap maker.

[@kathya739]

Elly's also humble:)!

[@georgeissa2986]

Hi dear, hope you’re doing well, i was looking for adding honey to my olive oil Castile soap 1500 gms of oil. How much honey i can add to this batch, should i add it with lye solution or ? if you don’t mind replying. Appreciate your support. George

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Hi George, I'm well thanks. I would add somewhere around 3-5 teaspoons of honey for 1500g of oil.

[@georgeissa2986]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking appreciate your quick response wishing you all well 🤗

[@prateekjadhav8960]

Thank you for the tip... Can we use sodium lactate and sugar syrup together???

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Yes, definitely

[@ConnorLeader-b4o]

better than adding all the harsh chemicals

[@dianerodriguez6546]

I am not trying to be rude and I’m asking for a good reason but why would we want to use a soap that’s made up of sugar if bacteria love sugar and if I had pimples or a scrape on my skin wouldn’t the soap promote a higher risk for infections? I feel that if I use this soap, I would need another soap to wash off the sugary sweet soap. If it only smelled sweet then that would make more sense to me.

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

It's a good question Diane. Basically what you are washing your face with is much more soap than sugar! Only a teeny amount is used in the whole recipe, and it all washes off as the soap cleans your face. Adding sugar makes it even more soapy!

[@dianerodriguez6546]

@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking thanks for your reply.

[@LisaG442]

The word you’re looking for is “potable “ water 🙂

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Thank you! Yes. That's it.

[@alirezachegini3244]

🤗✌👏👏👏

[@harvestthyme5944]

I'm going to try this. Now I just hope my daughter doesn't find this in my fridge and drink it. 🤦🏼‍♀️😂🤣

[@EllysEverydaySoapMaking]

Oh dear!

[@mattadams5541]

I think adding it as I melt my oils would be a good place to do it???

[@AdelaMarie-e5y]

I'm holding in my hands, your own very handmade beautiful soap! I LOVE ITT!