Advanced Sci-fi Civilisations Too Stupid To Really Exist Ep.22 - The Divergent Factions

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@MediaZealot
@MediaZealot 3 ай бұрын
Who's next? Support Media Zealot on Patreon or through Channel membership, to vote and gain access to other perks: www.patreon.com/mediazealot kzbin.infojoin Please also consider liking the video, subscribing and dinging that bell icon. 1. The Thermians (Galaxy Quest) 2. The Glukkons (Oddworld) 3. The Mithraic and the Atheists (Raised by Wolves) 4. The Pakleds (Star Trek) 5. The Precursors (Pacific Rim) If you have any other ideas for contenders, let me know in the comments below!
@krystaldragons6040
@krystaldragons6040 3 ай бұрын
3 please
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 3 ай бұрын
@@MediaZealot 3!!!! Media Zealot I highly recommend the other Factions for the other YA Novel to Movie Adaptations you have not covered yet: World Catastrophe K1llzone Division - Maze Runner Trilogy Ministry of Magic and De@theaters - Wizarding World (Harry Potter) US Government - The Darkest Minds Film Ember City Government- City of Embers Film Hegemony and the Formics Hives - Enders Game Films Volturi Coven - Twilight The Souls - The Host Btw in case anyone is wondering why there are so many YA Novel Adaptations despite few being much good, the answer can be found in the fact that they all end in Cliffhangers, they are attempts at recreating the Financial Success of Harry Potter, Suited Execs convinced the YA Novel Genre MUST contain a new Gold Mine…somewhere. Similar to attempts at Cinematic Universes post-MCU, it’s rarely worked much.
@zephyrna6249
@zephyrna6249 3 ай бұрын
The Precursors! (Pacific Rim)
@John-qv5ux
@John-qv5ux 3 ай бұрын
We look for things. Things that make us go. Pakleds please!
@Aleiza_49
@Aleiza_49 3 ай бұрын
P A K L E D S
@Etherealsighting
@Etherealsighting 3 ай бұрын
It should be noted that Dauntless doesn't just execute their rejects; they're sent to the hordes of faction-less. Even if they're well advanced in their training, they're just sent to the homeless community. This means that at about a fifth of the oppressed hordes have had some amount of parkour and paramilitary training. How the factions weren't overthrown much earlier is beyond me lol
@antonpayne919
@antonpayne919 3 ай бұрын
cause the faction-less are as stoopid as the rest. "im faction-less... guess i can do nothing about it."
@oooiluvpancakesooo7781
@oooiluvpancakesooo7781 3 ай бұрын
Probably more than a fifth. The recruits were surprised and upset when they were told that those cut would become factionless. That shows that, for at least some of the other factions, rejection is not something that happens to them. Triss was surprised too, so when you join abnegation you just get accepted. So it’s possible many of the factionless could be ex dauntless recruits.
@patrickkelmer6290
@patrickkelmer6290 3 ай бұрын
Because the plot says so!
@andpeg
@andpeg 3 ай бұрын
Not really. The top rule for Dauntless was only in place for like 5 years. Not nearly enough kids at a high enough training level for them to really do anything.
@Zadrias6386
@Zadrias6386 3 ай бұрын
Far higher than 1/5, more often about 1/3rds. Especially recently in the lore, as the dauntless training got more brutal, their washout rate skyrocketed.
@thesneakymemedealer5071
@thesneakymemedealer5071 3 ай бұрын
The fact that the big twist of the series being that what makes the protag “special” is that she’s actually just a normal person feels like excellent satire of the YA genre that it would be brilliant in any other series.
@Blaze6108
@Blaze6108 3 ай бұрын
It’s a legitimately smart twist that the series completely wastes into the trash can.
@burningice8451
@burningice8451 3 ай бұрын
@Blaze6108 All they had to do is have Tris acknowledge how ridiculous that is.
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 3 ай бұрын
That’s a very realistic and valid plot twist. It just wasn’t executed well.
@SomeRPGFan
@SomeRPGFan 2 ай бұрын
I feel like this setup would have worked much better as a Truman Show-like grotesque drama, where something just seems "off" and you gradually realize that no one is acting like a normal person.
@predatitor4183
@predatitor4183 Ай бұрын
Yeah, it would be a great thing to say to the teenagers, im one but i believe that something like that would be awesome, the specials things that we dont notice that are truly specials in ourselfs only being "simple" humans.
@franslair2199
@franslair2199 3 ай бұрын
There's a Russian joke: Lion, the king of animals, orders all animals to sort themselves two groups, the smart and the beautiful. They do so, only the monkey's left. He asks why she's just standing there, and she says "What am I supposed to do, tear myself in half?" This children's joke is exactly the plot of Divergent.
@BrunoMaricFromZagreb
@BrunoMaricFromZagreb 2 ай бұрын
It is amasing.
@alexanderchippel
@alexanderchippel 3 ай бұрын
There's one faction that produces food, one faction acts as the military, and three factions who's job it is to just sit around and think about shit? Why isn't there a construction faction? Why are the factionless just sitting around doing jack shit instead of doing absolutely anything?
@zecorezecron
@zecorezecron 3 ай бұрын
You mean the politicians?
@Stomo444
@Stomo444 3 ай бұрын
i see one faction that does a coup and four packs of suckers
@sprinkle61
@sprinkle61 3 ай бұрын
A construction faction would have made a lot of sense, if they wanted to use any of those old buildings just sitting around in ruins.
@dr1742
@dr1742 3 ай бұрын
Because the city would have been being restored, technological and economical increases would have been forced to manifest, and it would have expanded the system and the reality (we still don't know which faction makes toilets flush or even an oven turn on, let alone performs maintenance on units.) In short, that would have made sense and we can tell this was never meant to.
@steventodd787
@steventodd787 3 ай бұрын
That's what the factionless do, construction. But it's so poorly organized that it doesn't get anything done.
@clearspira
@clearspira 3 ай бұрын
As the Honest Trailer of this movie noted, no ordinary teenager would ever pick being a farmer over joining the cool faction that wears black and goes on adventures. And the fact that joining the cool faction requires you to cut your hand with a knife soaked in the blood of several other people - which seems like a great way to catch an infection.
@cmike123
@cmike123 3 ай бұрын
Everyone had to cut their hand. Not just Dauntless.
@clearspira
@clearspira 3 ай бұрын
@@cmike123 That's not how I remember it, but if so then that is even worse.
@MrDoenyon
@MrDoenyon 3 ай бұрын
@@clearspira Yeah everyone, you even see her brother choosing erudite by cutting his hand over the ball in this very video. :)
@darthjekyll3648
@darthjekyll3648 3 ай бұрын
And cinema sins said it.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 3 ай бұрын
@@darthjekyll3648Cinemasins is hardly a reputable source of criticism information. Not a defence but they could easily clean it between uses
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 3 ай бұрын
I'm just upset that we'll never have the big finale movie: Detergent.
@Reiner547
@Reiner547 3 ай бұрын
Made me chukle here have my like
@SilverMKI
@SilverMKI 3 ай бұрын
It's been scrubbed from the world.
@TFAltHist
@TFAltHist 3 ай бұрын
On the one hand, the third book is called Allegiant. On the other hand, your joke was funny.
@KangwithoutaKangdom
@KangwithoutaKangdom 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 good on ya
@dormghost
@dormghost 3 ай бұрын
They never made it, cause the main character died virgin. Huahuahuahua
@RicardoAlmeidatm
@RicardoAlmeidatm 3 ай бұрын
There is 0 reason to pick any faction other than Candor. You either have to be smart enough to "do science", perform heavy labor under rain and sun every day, be beat up, backstabbed and potentially killed or live a dull, boring life of nothing. Candor just have to sit in a room and philosophise all day.
@Blaze6108
@Blaze6108 3 ай бұрын
Technically Candor runs the court system. So if you were smart, you’d have another faction running the Executive and a third running the Parliament. That’s interesting material for political intrigue. Instead, there’s a faction that just generically ‘runs the government’ (just wait until you learn what courts are part of!!), the other brains factions is just scientists. This without going into the REALLY CREEPY anti-intellectualism of how they’re depicted.
@chrisspock2078
@chrisspock2078 3 ай бұрын
Yapping all day without even needing to give serious proof (like science people should do), basically all the benefits without risks best choice ever
@sarademoor
@sarademoor 3 ай бұрын
Plus they get to be rude, cause that's just in their nature xD
@BawdyBadger
@BawdyBadger 3 ай бұрын
​@@sarademoor "I've got a golden ticket..."
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 3 ай бұрын
I’ll take the dull boring life of nothing. Some people are content with a decent life.
@maveric619
@maveric619 3 ай бұрын
The test for becoming candor is just having to sit stoically at a desk while a guy cries and screams at you that he IS a doctor
@claudiarey699
@claudiarey699 3 ай бұрын
He is not just a doctor.... HE IS A SURGEON!!
@FictionHubZA
@FictionHubZA 3 ай бұрын
I am candor, Doctor Han. I am candor.
@creed8712
@creed8712 Ай бұрын
Ironically that’s the same test that got Ozai to be the firelord
@Scowleasy
@Scowleasy 3 ай бұрын
If this actually took place in Chicago then the groups would be divided into Italian beef, sausage, hot dogs and deep dish
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 3 ай бұрын
More like the Crips and the Bloods. Oh don't forget the GDs.
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 3 ай бұрын
lol, I would in the deep dish faction!
@kman9884
@kman9884 3 ай бұрын
Deep dish is a tourist dish. Tavern style is the real za
@michaelolivero1626
@michaelolivero1626 3 ай бұрын
Oh my God, but I like more than one! I must be ... Digestant!
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 3 ай бұрын
Where do Pineapples fit in?
@frankg2790
@frankg2790 3 ай бұрын
Divergent is "We Have Hunger Games At Home": all of the dystopia and teen angst in a post-apocalyptic world, none of the effort to make it work.
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 ай бұрын
and the hunger games wasn't the greatest at credible world building to begin with.
@eugeneoisten9409
@eugeneoisten9409 3 ай бұрын
Let's be honest here. The Hunger Games also does a sh^^ty job at its own world building!
@BeeHatGuy
@BeeHatGuy 3 ай бұрын
​@@eugeneoisten9409and it is a halfass adaptation of Battle Royale
@arvinroidoatienza7082
@arvinroidoatienza7082 3 ай бұрын
​@@BeeHatGuyas if Battle Royale is original. Hunger Games is a lot more political and the games are actually ended unlike Battle Royale.
@Honkious5824
@Honkious5824 3 ай бұрын
@@eugeneoisten9409 Suzanne Collins didn't write The Hunger Games for the worldbuilding, she wrote it as a commentary on the reduction of violence into a spectacle. War journalism has become just as entertainment focused as reality TV, with The Hunger Games being a twisted combination of these forms of media so as to outline the madness of it.
@Scowleasy
@Scowleasy 3 ай бұрын
The only proof you need that they’re idiots is that Chicago has had 2 separate fires AND a flood, and still managed to rebuild faster than they have in the series.
@JayJayM57
@JayJayM57 3 ай бұрын
and a riot.
@werlin8352
@werlin8352 3 ай бұрын
@@JayJayM57what riot
@jaymeVos
@jaymeVos 3 ай бұрын
Ha! That's actually a pretty good point.
@jaymeVos
@jaymeVos 3 ай бұрын
​@@werlin8352Chicago riots of 1968.
@JayJayM57
@JayJayM57 3 ай бұрын
@@jaymeVos thanks for answering
@andreasl_fr2666
@andreasl_fr2666 3 ай бұрын
This thing genuinely sounds like a parody of a YA universe nobody would ever actually commit to paper.
@TheNotoriousMrDee
@TheNotoriousMrDee 3 ай бұрын
Don't give the Wayans any ideas. Too many of those movies exist as it is lol.
@Hakar17
@Hakar17 3 ай бұрын
I mean it's not any dumber than The Hunger Games
@kman9884
@kman9884 3 ай бұрын
@@Hakar17Best thing hunger games has going for it is the graphic depictions of killing. Everything else is insanely boring and nonsensical
@MrRjh63
@MrRjh63 3 ай бұрын
@@kman9884 I feel like if you just want violence you should just read Battle Royal instead.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 ай бұрын
The YA Dystopia subgenre turned into self-parody fast, didn't it?
@RobertNLee
@RobertNLee 3 ай бұрын
When the first book released, the buzz was all OMG You Will NOT Believe a 19 Year Old College Freshman Wrote This. So I read the first few chapters at the library. I actually LOLd: wow, The Hunger Games only it's about how the most oppressive thing in the world is *picking your major.* Surely no 19 year old could come up with that!
@Pixel22-fs3tt
@Pixel22-fs3tt 3 ай бұрын
My mother read the book and begged both me and my sister to read them. I didn't but my sister did and she did not like them at all according to her
@seff6533
@seff6533 3 ай бұрын
Tbf it's a 19 year old writing as good as jkr was when she wrote harry potter
@zephyrna6249
@zephyrna6249 3 ай бұрын
A 19 year old writing this series is the most believable thing about it.
@keithtorgersen9664
@keithtorgersen9664 3 ай бұрын
Christopher Paolini was not much older when he wrote the Inheritance series and you could tell that there were large gaps in his life experience that he could not contribute to the writing of the series. The books were decent enough but not groundbreaking.
@Kamasutrawhat
@Kamasutrawhat 3 ай бұрын
@@seff6533 It pretty much is ripping off HP.
@sugoistalin7809
@sugoistalin7809 3 ай бұрын
This series is basically "Lets do a eugenics program without actually understanding what a eugenics program is."
@FictionHubZA
@FictionHubZA 3 ай бұрын
To be fair or not the author wrote the story in less than a month.
@Kat-vz4in
@Kat-vz4in 2 ай бұрын
And was apparently 19... girl should've googled a few things lol This video points out the flaws in the "purification" plan which essentially just show that the plan was actually doing the opposite of the author's intent
@GeorgeMonet
@GeorgeMonet Ай бұрын
And let's make sure to never put any time into research genetic engineering.
@seanentzel9616
@seanentzel9616 3 ай бұрын
"selflessness and charitability can be faked pretty easily, just ask our own real world politicians" God man that one had me dead, literally laughed out loud for a couple seconds. Bravo bravo
@DrgnLdyLizzie2001
@DrgnLdyLizzie2001 3 ай бұрын
I was driving at that part! Luckily I was at a stop light.
@antonpayne919
@antonpayne919 3 ай бұрын
"they know all about it" made me crack up 😂
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 3 ай бұрын
Fyi, Homelessness, Revolutions and other topics were epicly covered by Youtubr Some More News. Or if you want more Sarcasm in your Education, try Terrible-Writing-Advice !!
@myafelicia
@myafelicia 3 ай бұрын
The best part of the Divergent franchise was reading fanfiction stories that were a million times better written and far more entertaining. Good times!
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 3 ай бұрын
It's the same with Harry Potter, I don't even remember the Canon at this point because most fanfic canons are just better
@Brakiros
@Brakiros 3 ай бұрын
The Divergent movies were better than the books as well lol
@theresaurus9820
@theresaurus9820 3 ай бұрын
@@YEY0806100%. Also, I just can’t unsee all the transphobic and other yikesy stuff in those “books”.
@grahamturner2640
@grahamturner2640 Ай бұрын
@@theresaurus9820 what transphobic and other “yikes” stuff did JK Rowling put in those books?
@Jack-4v
@Jack-4v Ай бұрын
​@grahamturner2640 she didn't they are bring her political beliefs into her work
@michaelolivero1626
@michaelolivero1626 3 ай бұрын
Imagine being a societal outcast because you're a well-rounded, multi-talented individual
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 3 ай бұрын
That happens in every middle school in the world.
@dirtyprancing5930
@dirtyprancing5930 2 ай бұрын
It’s just weird to me that people are alive and middle aged who know about the purpose of the experiment, and yet somehow divergents are literally being killed. Would’ve loved a twist that it was a rumor started by the fact that when they’re identified, they’re taken out of the experiment and “disappear” so they can make sure they don’t breed it back out. But nope, just letting the entire purpose of the experiment be murdered. Why not
@g.mitchell7110
@g.mitchell7110 3 ай бұрын
The most glaring flaw to me in Divergent is that this is a society that has roughly equal numbers of politicians/social workers, scientists, lawyers, police/military, and farmers. Four of those groups have relatively small representation in every society on Earth; Amity should by itself outnumber all the other factions combined, especially since they don't seem to have advanced farming equipment. Oh, and they don't seem to have any service workers, by far the largest labor class in existence, larger than all five of the official factions combined, while at the same time having a large group of factionless. This is bad planning. You don't exile them (in a dystopia; I'm not advocating for this system), you put them to work in factories and service professions and then tell them they're better than the other classes because reasons (you tell every group they're better than the others to keep order). For an actually good take on a SF society divided into rigid factions, the Red Rising series by Pierce Brown is really good. It's also six fairly hefty books, and the first one is the weakest (though still good), but once it's off and running, it's a great read. Also, if several different core traits come together in a single person, the word for that is convergence. Tris is convergent
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 3 ай бұрын
Her traits are convergent. She is divergent from the system. She diverges from the system which only allows you one trait. Even though the whole point of the factions was supposed to be to fix the problem with only having one trait. Basically it's let's solve racism with racism! It's today!
@lex1455
@lex1455 3 ай бұрын
"noooo, you don't understand, that is not how my high school works. There are kids, like me, who are not into sports, science, student council..., we are the fractionless, we exist"
@alastor8091
@alastor8091 3 ай бұрын
Damn, I read Red Rising back in the day. Then Golden Son. Didn't realize the series kept going. Honestly the second book was a good ending. I don't wanna see Darrow suffer any more.
@qng3975
@qng3975 Ай бұрын
I was wondering if the farmers can really produce enough food to support the population without advanced equipment and being a huge part of the population
@kukuc96
@kukuc96 27 күн бұрын
Depends on the technology level. In developed nations, only a couple % of the population work in agriculture (in the US it's 1.7%). Ukraine is one of the largest agricultural exporters in the world with only 15%, and you will not find a developed nation above 20%.
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 3 ай бұрын
I find it hillarious that one faction produces food, one is the military and the other 3 are students, scientists and/or politicians who just sit around doing jacksh!t, but still make all the decisions. Not to even mention the irony of someone being "divergent" and the idea of it being a "superpower" only applying to someone from a higher social status/class There was potential for some pretty funny social commentary and satire, but the author wasn't that self-aware.
@inquisitive6786
@inquisitive6786 3 ай бұрын
An american 19yo girl in college wrote this. There was never any potential
@Randomusername56782
@Randomusername56782 3 ай бұрын
The "Military" faction doesnt even operate like an actual proper military at all lol, and If I'm being honest they'd probably get annhilated back backwater hillbilly joe and his work friends who form a "Militia"
@masoncomes6783
@masoncomes6783 3 ай бұрын
The funniest part to me is that since apparently outside the fence is the only actually dangerous part of the world, technically the farmers are also the military. The same farmers who apparently havent even advanced to using oxen to drive plows are somehow literally doing the jobs of 5 factions and are the only ones in danger. Like how are you going to have 40% of the population either researching or learning to fight, yet you have the only producers for your entire civilization completely fending for themselves with stone age technology? All they have to do is run away and they literally have nothing to lose and everything to gain; it's not like they use any tech they can't just pick up off the ground anyways.
@wsconsn
@wsconsn 3 ай бұрын
How could a member of the faction that helps the faction-less not know that the military faction eliminates the bottom recruits and makes them faction-less?
@EmiStar070
@EmiStar070 3 ай бұрын
I think you'd have to actually talk to the homeless people for that to happen
@board-qu9iu
@board-qu9iu 3 ай бұрын
@@EmiStar070but many of them do tho. And it would be really obvious once many of the factionless are from a certain faction
@creed8712
@creed8712 Ай бұрын
@@board-qu9iusomebody else had said the rule was relatively new like in the last 5 years?
@spartan7375
@spartan7375 3 ай бұрын
honestly its a miracle that human civilization didnt implode in this series since every faction is doomed to fall apart for one reason or another
@grimneeldrakia7173
@grimneeldrakia7173 3 ай бұрын
I try to convince myself any of these civilizations are too stupid to exist and then I look at Dubai.
@angusreed7113
@angusreed7113 3 ай бұрын
The burj Khalifa isn't even connected to the city's sewers
@kman9884
@kman9884 3 ай бұрын
Anything is possible with a shit ton of natural resources and slave labor
@hambor12
@hambor12 3 ай бұрын
@@angusreed7113apparently it’s got a sewer system. In progress. Which they only started work on like 2 years ago.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 ай бұрын
@@angusreed7113 Um, ew.
@KateeAngel
@KateeAngel 3 ай бұрын
What's Dubai? Look at Saudi Arabia! 😂
@mbarker_lng
@mbarker_lng 3 ай бұрын
I had to laugh just at "the hellscape that lies beyond" and its a wide shot of a tranquil, verdant landscape.
@TheNotoriousMrDee
@TheNotoriousMrDee 3 ай бұрын
This is it. This is the dumbest sci-fi civilization. Pretty hard to beat San Angeles, but here we are.
@aidanlela4872
@aidanlela4872 3 ай бұрын
Idk man San Angeles is like insanely dumb. I think this is second,but that’s just my opinion
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 3 ай бұрын
San Angeles was at least meant to be dumb, right?
@peterg76yt
@peterg76yt 3 ай бұрын
San Angeles was never meant to be a good system, it was just a prediction that so far is eerily accurate.
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 ай бұрын
Be well!
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 ай бұрын
​@peterg76yt because the GenXers are getting love bots and real dolls? Well why are they still rude 😢
@wolfgangervin2582
@wolfgangervin2582 3 ай бұрын
8:54-9:15 so this small police force in a (presumably) small population area are using the same backstabbing training system as Imperial Stormtroopers, who have a MASSIVE population pool to work with. That TOTALLY sounds smart.
@theboredguy2107
@theboredguy2107 3 ай бұрын
Watching this when i was younger, i was so mad that the problem for the world was people are factionalized via genetics, but the bad guy didnt let them mix genetics to return to normal humanity. Meaning he just did bad science, which mace my nerd brain soooo mad!
@katetickner7141
@katetickner7141 3 ай бұрын
I know! They didn't control for any of their confounding variables and when their experimental evidence showed the opposite of their hypothesis, they didn't even acknowledge it. Just the worst science.
@EmiStar070
@EmiStar070 3 ай бұрын
Also, "the lab rats have started systemically killing the few positive results of the experiment" seems like a REALLY GOOD REASON to shut the whole thing down. Clearly it isn't working
@edge_ucation
@edge_ucation 3 ай бұрын
I just thought of something. How is it that in the 200+ years of Chicago's existence after the war do they don't even come close to rebuilding the city? You can't rebuild construction equipment, farm equipment, aerial craft? Yet they can hoist up wind turbines and mount them to the sides of their crumbling buildings. Doesn't sound safe when most of their buildings are falling apart. I think it took Hiroshima and Nagasaki less than 30 years to rebuild.
@breeze4766
@breeze4766 3 ай бұрын
Never watched these movies but my biggest problem with the whole five factions thing is how limited it really is. What faction makes clothes? What faction does constuction work for new houses? what faction manufactures ammo and weapons? There is so much that is required for society for function that does not fit nicely in any of the factions. The fact that the society lasted as long as it did defies logic.
@chrisspock2078
@chrisspock2078 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, plus all the factions - in the real world - represent just a small percentage of the overall population. Where is the engineers faction? Or the welders faction? The vast majority does not have technical skills, even the "scientists" are just theoretical people
@richardvhal8140
@richardvhal8140 3 ай бұрын
the Factionless could've been sent out outside the walls as scouts.
@MajorHickE
@MajorHickE 3 ай бұрын
What if Attack on Titan was a YA series
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 ай бұрын
Or just made into another faction that DOES something in this society. What's a fancy-shmancy word for "builder"?
@Xanegoh
@Xanegoh 3 ай бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 constructor, fabricator, crafter. Architect, if you want to get real pretentious.
@thesneakymemedealer5071
@thesneakymemedealer5071 3 ай бұрын
They should have just had the factionless do all the tasks the other factions don’t like construction and cleaning. Hell it would have also helped with the secret goal of fixing the genes of the masses considering this new faction would be comprised of a grab bag of other factions and divergents all intermingling and this the ability to mix with the more ridge ones
@Xanegoh
@Xanegoh 3 ай бұрын
@@thesneakymemedealer5071 nah, that would make too much sense.
@mistmanjones3555
@mistmanjones3555 3 ай бұрын
I like how this critique of the faction system just descended into a roast of the Divergent franchise
@BlackCover95
@BlackCover95 3 ай бұрын
My suggestions for Advanced Sci-Fi Civilizations Too Stupid to Really Exist: •Time Lords, _Doctor Who_ •Children of Tama, _Star Trek_ •Oceania, _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ (1984)
@clearspira
@clearspira 3 ай бұрын
The Ferengi, Star Trek. A race so preoccupied with money that if you promise to sell off your corpse after death - and you have the misfortune of not dying - then you have to kill yourself or risk being exiled! Not to mention the fact that all of their women are naked. I get it, it is probably meant to be a parody of the burka, but wouldn't all of their women burn or freeze to death every time the temperature changed?
@jacara1981
@jacara1981 3 ай бұрын
SeaQuest DSV lol
@samuele7098
@samuele7098 3 ай бұрын
To be fair Oceania kinda works perfectly for those in power, to the point that it's impossible to rebel against it. It's an exaggeration, a caricature and a "perfected form" of the totalitarian regimes that did actually exist and I'd say that it isn't stupid, as we can find a lot of "Oceania" in our history books and news. Can you elaborate on what exactly you find stupid about it?
@BlackCover95
@BlackCover95 3 ай бұрын
@@samuele7098 The fact that their surveillance and oppression work 100% where intended, DESPITE the fact that the economy and infrastructure is in shambles. Realistically, that should undermine their efficiency.
@jaymeVos
@jaymeVos 3 ай бұрын
​​@@samuele7098The totalitarianism and Authoritarianism is what makes it stupid, personally speaking of course, but only because I personally dislike those types of systems. *edit* So I should probably just shut up.
@sagaswp
@sagaswp 3 ай бұрын
So the five factions are Hufflepuff (Amity), Ravenclaw (Erudite), Gryffindor (Candor), Slytherin (Dauntless), and Muggles (Abnegation). Got it.
@aritraroy6592
@aritraroy6592 3 ай бұрын
Um....no? Slytherin as the Dauntless? Bro, that's Gryffindor all the way. The real Slytherin join Candor because having to tell the truth is not a real obstacle to raw ambition. Abnegation might be the leaders, but dear gods, Candor is the place of *lawyers*
@mandalorian_guy
@mandalorian_guy 3 ай бұрын
You are right that Ravenclaw would be Erudite, Hufflepuff would be Amity, and Muggles/Squibs would be Abnegation (or factionless). However, Gryffindor is almost 1:1 Dauntless and Slytherin/Candor don't really correlate unless one wants to link Honesty with Cleverness, which is a stretch.
@Arcananine77
@Arcananine77 3 ай бұрын
​@@mandalorian_guy The Bureau of Genetic Welfare is clearly this story's version of Slytherin.
@dr1742
@dr1742 3 ай бұрын
@@sagaswp 😂
@User_5tjk42gj9
@User_5tjk42gj9 3 ай бұрын
Dweebs.
@CrypticCharm
@CrypticCharm 3 ай бұрын
what i always wondered about was you had a test that suggested the best faction for you, but then had the option to choose the one you wanted. but then if that was the wrong choice and you didn't fit it, or failed the test. you were kicked out anyway and became factionless, and hopefully not starve to death. which makes no sense at all.
@Grizabeebles
@Grizabeebles 3 ай бұрын
In all honesty its not much dumber than the real word. Appartheid South Africa had all kinds of incredibly stupid rules for sorting "coloured" from "black" and "white". One of the conditions for being "white" was a test where they'd stick a pencil in your hair to see if it would fall out. Depending on the score of these kinds of BS "tests" children could be taken from their parents and given by the state to families of a "correct" race. If a child or grandchild caught a case of recessive genes and scored differently, they'd be put up for mandatory adoption too. Given what we now know about genetics, South Africa was actually going to ludicrous effort and expense to *guarantee* interracial marriages happened in a society where interracial sex was illegal.
@Uruz2012
@Uruz2012 3 ай бұрын
It's a thinly veiled metaphor for college education. Standardized tests, strictly defined areas of study, you get some guidance but choose your own path, if it doesn't work out you're poor forever...
@cameronspence4977
@cameronspence4977 3 ай бұрын
I mean literally none of this series makes any sense apparently, so... only saying apparently because I value my time too much to waste it watching this
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 3 ай бұрын
Everyone in these clips look like the director is holding up their hand to hold off a firing squad until the scene is over
@shelby2697
@shelby2697 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was just me lmao the acting is so stiff
@NJEH8TE
@NJEH8TE 2 ай бұрын
They had to hold that post-casting couch expression for the whole movie.
@potatoheadpokemario1931
@potatoheadpokemario1931 Ай бұрын
I mean that's how they're supposed to feel living In dystopia
@daluigi1
@daluigi1 3 ай бұрын
*A Divergent person has the basic complexity of a regular human been* Their entire society: "insert pikachu shock meme"
@kanetaylor8330
@kanetaylor8330 3 ай бұрын
Were they not allowed to go up to the top floors of buildings in the series? Cause Ohare is close enough that they’d definitely see that downtown. So having that giant technologically advanced building should’ve definitely been visible to them.
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 3 ай бұрын
Wasnt there a hologram wall involved?
@daviddavids2884
@daviddavids2884 3 ай бұрын
43 idyuts
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 3 ай бұрын
For years it has been funny to me that what made Triss special was that she was basically a regular person in a city full of people soo incapaable to balance their emotions in a functional (let alone healthy) way that they border on subhuman. That's like writting a YA trilogy in which the main character is considered by everybody else to be superhumanly agile and then its revealed in the third book that her "power" is that she's the first human with two functionimg legs to be born in 200 years. Its ridiculous
@vonfaustien3957
@vonfaustien3957 3 ай бұрын
In a world ruled by the 5 great powers. The deaf, Dumb, Blind Mute and Legless a hero with natural powers shall arise to restore Balence and make humanity whole The Ablelist born with all 5 sense and working legs Coming to the discount bin next to the YA novel section of a book store near you
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 3 ай бұрын
@@vonfaustien3957 _"Hearing. Tact. Vision. Smell. Taste. Long ago, the five nations lived together in armony. Then, everything changed when the Eyesight Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all five senses, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished."_
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 3 ай бұрын
Wait a minute....isn't....isn't that the plot of Idiocracy?
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 3 ай бұрын
@@3Rayfire 🤔🤔🤔 ... in broad strokes, yes, it is
@Spuggky45
@Spuggky45 3 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen this franchise. But I’m only four minutes in and I can already bet that this whole thing was written by an edgy teenager observing the cliques at his/her local high school and thinking that they’re some brilliant artist for making this stuff.
@wos1223
@wos1223 3 ай бұрын
Tecnically it was an edgy 20-something year old trying to recapture their cliquey high school expierience as the "not like the other girls" girl but close enough.
@RobertNLee
@RobertNLee 3 ай бұрын
LOL, see my comment - I think it's actually about how picking your college major is like the cruelest test life will ever hand you.
@BoringAngler
@BoringAngler 3 ай бұрын
FWIW, author was 22 or 23 and an undergrad when she wrote the first book. She's pictured @6:51.
@billweirdo9657
@billweirdo9657 3 ай бұрын
I mean it's " young adult" genre duh it's dumb
@samuelwoodouse4482
@samuelwoodouse4482 3 ай бұрын
Dude this series literally ended the YA dystopia bubble. It is the ET video game of its day and genera
@100Servings
@100Servings 3 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, there was an entire line of Nerf Rebelle blasters to tie in with the Divergent series. I would love to find some.
@444coole444
@444coole444 3 ай бұрын
honestly didnt realize how much tuvok from star trek voyagers quotes fit in so many situations
@charlessaint7926
@charlessaint7926 3 ай бұрын
Of course it's going to fail. Your head of Bureau of Genetic Welfare is Harry Dunne, from Dumb and Dumber.
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 3 ай бұрын
Hey he ran NASA!
@codyjones3311
@codyjones3311 3 ай бұрын
Someone cashed in on the Hunger Games success without thinking much about the actual plot.
@orangecat504
@orangecat504 3 ай бұрын
Or the biting social commentary and themes
@patrickkelmer6290
@patrickkelmer6290 3 ай бұрын
@@orangecat504 "Let´s ditch exploring the somewhat interesting themes and commentary so we can focus on Mary Sues shallow and pointless romance with the guy with only one facial expression"
@orangecat504
@orangecat504 3 ай бұрын
@@patrickkelmer6290 that was the the worst part and was clearly meant to attract young women and worked. The concept itself was from collins seeing celebrity channels going on at the same time iraq was being bombed. She thought about how war snd murder could be turned to entertainment
@Maddinhpws
@Maddinhpws 3 ай бұрын
0:40 I legit didn't know they were supposed to be teenagers. I thought they were supposed to be young adults. Like 21ish
@CaitiffFTW
@CaitiffFTW 3 ай бұрын
Are we going to just gloss over the fact that pretty much everyone in Dauntless is a fucking coward, blindly following along with whatever orders they're given, solely out of fear of being alone?
@MediaZealot
@MediaZealot 3 ай бұрын
Good point, the leader of Dauntless also showed himself to be a coward (by their standards) after admitting he was scared to die, while under the influence of the truth serum. Seems they're not so tough after all.
@CaitiffFTW
@CaitiffFTW 3 ай бұрын
@@MediaZealot I'm not even talking about "their standards." I mean that almost every person in the group is a peer pressure caving bitch. Courage would mean that they do what they believe to be right, without regard to the pressures around them. But, none of them do. And, even that ignores the real issue with Dauntless. If they were what they claim to be, and genuinely have no fear, that isn't courage. That's insanity. They literally claim to be insane. And, I concede that mindset is pretty on brand for this franchise, but almost none of the characters in the series actually possess the primary character traits espoused to them. (For that one, we can blame Stephanie Meyer level bad writing.)
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 2 ай бұрын
what's funny is that dauntless means fearless.
@MadnessInLivingColor
@MadnessInLivingColor 3 ай бұрын
I love the scathing, deadpan humor behind these videos so goddamn much
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, if the entire population of Chicago was *intentionally* being treated like sh!t for entertainment; that would have made the story a hundred times better. The idea that this hyper advanced society is essentially playing a Sims game by making intentionally bad decisions and throwing wrenches into this society they've built just for the sadistic pleasure of watching their puppets, who they don't consider human, dance would have been insanely dark, but also would have made for a WAY better story tbh.
@Redem10
@Redem10 3 ай бұрын
I think every time I heard someone having the Divergent premise explain to them they answered with "That's stupid"
@zanlooney343
@zanlooney343 3 ай бұрын
An even more dystopian Brave New World. There was a canceled TV series in the 70's based on Logan's Run with this idea.
@daybidbanderbecht5299
@daybidbanderbecht5299 3 ай бұрын
When you get a thesaurus and immediately make a shitty YA dystopia series.
@basedbattledroid3507
@basedbattledroid3507 3 ай бұрын
Jumpscared by Picard reacting instead of Tuvok the chain of command was brought in for this one
@ranchoth
@ranchoth 3 ай бұрын
This society actually sounds like it's being run by computer. Specifically, one of the ones from the original Star Trek that was designed to run a society, but was misprogrammed, damaged, insane, or just too oblivious and gormless to realize that it was grinding the populace down in a dysfunctional mockery of it's original function.
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 3 ай бұрын
The bene gesserit breeding program was much better that the faction system
@ldti
@ldti 3 ай бұрын
What if breeding program, but run by COMPLETE MORONS?
@Reiner547
@Reiner547 3 ай бұрын
And its an awfull low bar too
@Scowleasy
@Scowleasy 3 ай бұрын
As someone that *is* neurodivergent, I find the whole “being fundamentally different is actually a superpower!” bit really patronizing, especially when it only applies to the protagonist and everyone else is homeless.
@beepbop6542
@beepbop6542 3 ай бұрын
Also the plot twist is that she's actually normal and everyone else is retarded
@UncleJrueForTue
@UncleJrueForTue 3 ай бұрын
The worst part of "neurodivergency as a superpower" is that it's actually dangerous to development. It's stunts a person's incentive to actually be more than their diagnosis and justify and handwave all their problems and actions they don't have to be beholden to. It's the literal pop science equivalent of "Sorry, I'm a virgo after all 🤪".
@UncleJrueForTue
@UncleJrueForTue 3 ай бұрын
What's worse is said "superpower" is only granted to people who aren't lower class. Speaking from personal and anectdotal experience, I and many other of america's lower class with mental conditions don't get the "superpower" label and benefits. We're here for someone else's cheap laugh and to "put the fries in the bag".
@masako8980
@masako8980 3 ай бұрын
@@UncleJrueForTue now that you've said that, that almost sounds like solid satire. You know, assuming this wasn't divergent. Otherwise I might have believed it.
@UncleJrueForTue
@UncleJrueForTue 3 ай бұрын
@@masako8980 Well seeing as I'm speaking from my personal experience with Aspergers and the experiences of people I met leading group therapy meetings, "divergence as a superpower" certainly reads like satire.
@bluelanternguardianangel8038
@bluelanternguardianangel8038 3 ай бұрын
The divergent series is the most YA Novel turned movie out of the YA novels turned movie ever. Its like a house of cards thats over 6ft tall. Its quite impressive that you built it this high but one smallest push from logic and it all falls apart lol
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 3 ай бұрын
HE'S BACK YES YES YES Scorch the Divergent series they deserve after not giving us a final conclusion
@mcb187
@mcb187 3 ай бұрын
…except they did. The 3rd movie is like, 90% of the 3rd book. Literally the only thing they didn’t show was the 2 chapters of the book after the big fight to stop the release of the memory serum. Basically, “and they all lived happily ever after”
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 3 ай бұрын
@@mcb187personally I still wanted to see Ascendant. Just to know what happens and see how insane it gets.
@KingRidley
@KingRidley 3 ай бұрын
Scorch the series for it's audacity to be what it is.
@-Azure.EXE-
@-Azure.EXE- 3 ай бұрын
4:53 I AM (neuro)DIVERGENT. I AM (neuro)DIVERGENT.
@nmutuasehtam5542
@nmutuasehtam5542 3 ай бұрын
This made me cackle (also neurodivergent) 😂😂😭
@aces6262
@aces6262 Ай бұрын
Fancy seeing you here fellow EFAPer.
@ogerpinata1703
@ogerpinata1703 3 ай бұрын
Killing your own people when they are supposedly the only thing that cannot be replaced easily is just stupid.
@cheftristone
@cheftristone 3 ай бұрын
The common phrase quoted "Jack of all trades master of none," is incomplete, it finishes with "but is better than a master of one." Because you are inherently more valuable being good at many disciplines in society than hyperfixating on one
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich 3 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you've uploaded again. I do always find your critiques both humorous and insightful
@teejaylecapois9741
@teejaylecapois9741 3 ай бұрын
Welcome back, we missed you, Snark Man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ahmednasrulla4766
@ahmednasrulla4766 3 ай бұрын
They took the sorting hat scene from Harry Potter and made a whole ass series
@mmmghool
@mmmghool 3 ай бұрын
😂
@NL-xu6qb
@NL-xu6qb 3 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough, I think the fact that the first book was written in two weeks and the author probably never fought that she is gonna be a professional author, made her kill of so many main figure during the movies and films... this was actually refreshing to see.
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 3 ай бұрын
Bad writing is refreshing to see? You haven't been paying attention for the last decade have you?
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 3 ай бұрын
San Angeles is just real life 2020s California.
@kman9884
@kman9884 3 ай бұрын
@@MamaMOBKilling off characters is refreshing in a genre and age where barely anyone dies. Imagine how much better every MCU crossover movie would be if a hero got seriously maimed or killed
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 3 ай бұрын
@@MarvinPowell1 not really. California has plenty of s3x, and toilet paper
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 3 ай бұрын
​@kman9884 why would that make it better. I get the the mcu aren't perfect films by any stretch of the imagination, but why would killing off more characters improve it? Does every series need to be written by grrm for it to be good? Do you just want gore?
@willhiggins9563
@willhiggins9563 3 ай бұрын
These YA stories with their stratified clicks. (Faction here, Houses in Harry Potter, the different groups in Maze Runner) they always have the portage be in ‘the brave group’, wonder if there’s a YA that has the portage be in the ‘smart kids’?
@eugeneoisten9409
@eugeneoisten9409 3 ай бұрын
Divergent judicial system in a nutshell: Judge: the protagonist stands accused of being a Mary Sue! Prosecutor: we shall prove beyond any doubt that the protagonist is in fact a Mary Sue! Defense: since I can only tell the truth my client is not only a Mary Sue but a very poorly written Mary Sue at that..........the defense rest!!
@MrAmeame
@MrAmeame 3 ай бұрын
Bro I remember when this whole series started as like a top 10 type style video now we getting full form videos on 1 civilization like proud of you 2 years really flies 😭🙏🏾
@thearksideofthought
@thearksideofthought 3 ай бұрын
This movie deserves the Media Zealot treatment.
@SRow_Plays_Games
@SRow_Plays_Games 3 ай бұрын
This whole movies plot feels like an improve group skit. And then and then, so then and then, and then, and then, the end
@evanharrison4054
@evanharrison4054 3 ай бұрын
You...kinda managed to put more thought into this story than the creator(s) "What if the high school clique system was society" is basically the entire premise of Divergent. It's just ridiculous even to consider it for a fraction of a second. How is a world going to run for more than fifteen minutes if a group maintains monopoly on food production and the knowhow and the tools, and another group maintains a monopoly on weapons and the use of force. I don't care about the guys who argue or...any of the other factions. If the farmer faction arms up and manages to hold off the military police faction long enough for them to starve to death, they win. If not, then the military police will take over and start dictating. If, by some weird reason, neither of those things would happen, the large number of huddled masses of factionless would force the system to collapse. ...what, they can't even be used for forced labor? Their society thinks these people are born so useless, that if something needs to be, say, scrapped for metal(like 'em big skyscrapers), then they can't go out with basic tools and pull apart stuff? It's like if the Hogwarts sorting hat just told one out of like ten kids to just jump out of one of the towers. In any case, the "Dauntless" are raising psychotic, violent, maladjusted idiots who really aren't fit to safeguard a society where everyone is autistically adhering to an artificial identity or living on the fringes because they didn't want to jump off a moving train or they failed to successfully argue in defense of child murder(debate club is sometimes weird) or couldn't successfully germinate seeds...etc. They are an army that makes absolutely no sense in the absence of a credible outside threat. What if, while running around, they knock me and my basket of onions over and I tell them to go shove it? They either lynch me or the FFA kicks me out because it's not very "farmlylike" to get angry, because that's the other guys, and when I try to defend myself, it gets pointed out to me that that's yet another group of guys. Since there is nobody they fear beyond some walls or something, there's really no reason for anyone who doesn't have a pathological need to fit in, to just pack up and go somewhere where they can farm as well as defend themselves, both on a battlefield and in a court of law. ...I know the later movies/books kinda unwrite most of this, but I wanted to point out that the premise of the original story would simply not last for a week, and a cursory glance at social experiments on wikipedia would make that painfully obvious in half an hour tops, depending on reading speed.
@Aaron282
@Aaron282 3 ай бұрын
The craziest thing about these films is that at some point the normal society that we know now agreed to this stuff when we can’t even agree that the world is round is unbelievable
@matthiuskoenig3378
@matthiuskoenig3378 3 ай бұрын
since when has our society needed to all agree to something to do it?
@johntoto5496
@johntoto5496 3 ай бұрын
Look around you, many things that were unbelievable/unacceptable few decades ago are now common and mainstream.
@khamankhoma8232
@khamankhoma8232 3 ай бұрын
I'd like to forget these movies too, but then the danger is that I would end up rewatching them forgetting that I watched them already.
@sterlingdennett
@sterlingdennett 3 ай бұрын
The Divergent series reminds me of The Maze Runner in one very big way - it seems to me that the writer came up with one great idea, (living inside a constantly-changing maze, while trying to map it and escape it while avoiding enemies) - OR - (all of society is divided into factions like Hogwarts Houses, which are supposed to reflect your personality, and thus give everyone a place and a role, but you can change them once in your teen years, and if you don't fit in one, they KILL you) - and then tried to construct an entire story/book around it, but without much success. There's a reason that J.K. Rowling, after coming up with the core idea for Harry Potter, spent YEARS fleshing out the world and the plot before trying to write her books.
@qq-wy7zs
@qq-wy7zs 3 ай бұрын
Solution to the genetic problem: Just charge a large fine to marry someone in the same faction, and bam, most people will marry outside and their kids will have toned down traits.
@midori_the_eldritch
@midori_the_eldritch 3 ай бұрын
Even forcing people into there most matching faction and forbidding internal marrage would be a more effective method.
@tomfox3429
@tomfox3429 3 ай бұрын
Another great episode in the best series on KZbin! Big fan of your work!
@jo_smough
@jo_smough 3 ай бұрын
These movies make the Hunger Games look like a masterpiece in comparison
@orangecat504
@orangecat504 3 ай бұрын
Susane Collins was actually saying something about society (iraq war) rather than being an thought experiment. Even if the world building isnt great its the social commentary that makes the Hunger Games the best
@jacara1981
@jacara1981 3 ай бұрын
If I remember right they didn't just split into factions, humans were doing extensive genetic engineering and that is what led to the war. A Divergent is someone that more "whole" and more to what humans were before we started engineering ourselves.
@jupitersnoot4915
@jupitersnoot4915 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. The point is that all non-divergents are genetically flawed. According to the lore of the series, non-divergents are literally physically incapable of being anything other than 1 thing. A non-divergent member of Candor is physically incapable of acting like a Dauntless. They're genetically broken. The idea is that the Divergents are just normal humans, who don't have the genetic flaws that Non-Divergents have.
@orangecat504
@orangecat504 3 ай бұрын
@@jupitersnoot4915but still an dumb system to get rid of genetic inpurities
@Grizabeebles
@Grizabeebles 3 ай бұрын
The idea of governments attempting to make supersoldiers and the wealthy buying their kids "superior" genes without any thought for how that would cause long-term psychological instability is a fertile premise. Plenty of other movies and shows have used it. Where it all breaks is that the society we see in the first movie *isn't* a dystopian beehive of genetic supermen and David is neither ecstatic at the "progress" now that the Factions were finally overthrown by Divergents and Factionless nor behaving like a panicked bureaucrat realizing he's worked himself out of a job. The self-contradiction and stupidity inherent in "personality types", racism, eugenics, class divisions, bureaucratic structures, etc is *especially* stupid when a story goes so far out of its way to never directly *use* any of those words even though the entire plot is built around a the lingering aftermath of a worldwide race war.
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 3 ай бұрын
Watch the video. He literally says that.
@Uruz2012
@Uruz2012 3 ай бұрын
Why isn't there a DNA test to see what faction you belong to? Would have taken a few minutes of screentime to fix that.
@Velereonics
@Velereonics 3 ай бұрын
the initiation is less like a frat hazing and more like being jumped into an LA gang. they just mercilessly beat you for like 5 minutes and then you're in the gang
@Hawkatana
@Hawkatana 2 ай бұрын
At least with the Hunger Games, Panem was clearly *meant* to be stupid. The thought process behind Divergent's factions can be boiled down to "What if the Hunger Games had the houses from Harry Potter?".
@TFAltHist
@TFAltHist 3 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, the outside world wasn't a wasteland in the books, and Chicago wasn't the only experiment.
@koobs4549
@koobs4549 3 ай бұрын
I love how these post-apocalyptic films always have a major war that left everything in ruin, but absolutely no companies like Black Rock or Black Stone exist 😂
@nomadmalachi
@nomadmalachi 3 ай бұрын
Always great to go flipping through the same old videos and then see Media Zealot has posted something new!
@TitoVespasianus
@TitoVespasianus 3 ай бұрын
The memories of these movies had actually been wiped out from my mind somehow but you made me remember.
@Quaila
@Quaila 3 ай бұрын
Omg the reveal that the protagonist’s home faction is “Abnegation” is so funny I thought they were just peasants
@BlackMercy-it1jp
@BlackMercy-it1jp 3 ай бұрын
Wow, I had forgotten that even this movie franchise existed even though I was the target audience for this when it released. I honestly thought you were talking about Hunger games in the first few seconds. Awesome video btw
@irystocrattakodachithatmooms
@irystocrattakodachithatmooms 3 ай бұрын
The New Republic from Disney Star Wars is also quite stupid.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 3 ай бұрын
The New Republic from Legends had its crap together.
@StevenSchultz-j8k
@StevenSchultz-j8k 3 ай бұрын
At laughed at this movie the whole time in theaters. Like my friends were confused and uncomfortable but I couldn't stop laughing at how stupid it was and couldn't describe it to them during the movie 😂
@puggs_2128
@puggs_2128 3 ай бұрын
What's so weird is if you make a couple changes, this world would make so much more sense. Say, years ago, the experiment went awry for some reason (evil person, bias against others, etc), and all these rules about factions and killing divergents were made up after it went awry, and remove the whole part where people can choose their faction. And say that the genetically pure just gave up on the experiment, and thus don't care what happens to the test subjects anymore, as long as they stay in their bubble. Then you can keep most of the plot, still have Tris be divergent and choose Dauntless (she would still get a choice because she would tell the testgiver what result to put in, since it's a lie anyway), and keep the whole "outside faction no one knew about" and genetically pure/unpure thing.
@bencochrane6112
@bencochrane6112 3 ай бұрын
"You're smart, brave and humble, which is why people don't like you. Oh and your parents won't let you wear cute clothes." - Teenage girl, the movie
@antonpayne919
@antonpayne919 3 ай бұрын
if i remember correctly its implied that members of amity are high most of the time so there are some benefits choosing this faction
@mmluon
@mmluon 2 ай бұрын
The breakdown of the story was the most succinct and funny description of this genre that I have ever heard.. Spot on and hilariously witty.
@pennzilla57
@pennzilla57 3 ай бұрын
I have waited so long for this! The single most underrated channel on KZbin
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 3 ай бұрын
Yes we also enjoy it
@dely9999
@dely9999 3 ай бұрын
I would allways found funny how the author used Fancy words for the "Personalities" to be more Edgy, when simpler things wouldh have made it better just give me a minute and i will show you: Curiosity: the scientist and researchers of the city, leads by their curiosity allways wanting to know more and discover new things Ambition: The Bussiness people of the city, in charge of making the financial decisitions to make the city wealthier and bigger Bravery: the army of the city, people who are able to surpass fear and face anything or anyone, no matter the circumstances Honor: The police, people who won't break their moral codes before nothing and will allways do the right thing Modesty: Thouse who are assigned to hand work, basically the low class Compassion: The Doctors and medics Oh and look... i made six
@waterfairy555
@waterfairy555 3 ай бұрын
That would actually make a little more sense in terms of premise and world building.
@MamaMOB
@MamaMOB 3 ай бұрын
That's not better it's just different and in fact lazier. At least she put some creativity into it.
@OneMoreDesu
@OneMoreDesu 3 ай бұрын
​@@MamaMOBThey feel like they were written by an edgy teenager who lacks the self awareness to realise how silly they sound. She doesn't use any language similar to that in the books, and it's as if it was her first excursion using a thesaurus. Really, really cringe.
@dely9999
@dely9999 3 ай бұрын
@@MamaMOB creativity? Her factions are Generic good people too good to be real Generic bad people Generic bullies with an adiction to adrenaline Generic smart people without feelings And farmers
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 3 ай бұрын
WTF I recently just suggested this. What luck. What a strange coincidence. Media Zealot I highly recommend the other Factions for the other YA Novel to Movie Adaptations you have not covered yet: World Catastrophe K1llzone Division - Maze Runner Trilogy Ministry of Magic and De@theaters - Wizarding World US Government - The Darkest Minds Film Ember City Government- City of Embers Film Hegemony and the Formics Hives - Enders Game Films Volturi Coven - Twilight The Souls - The Host Btw in case anyone is wondering why there are so many YA Novel Adaptations despite few being much good, the answer can be found in the fact that they all end in Cliffhangers, they are attempts at recreating the Financial Success of Harry Potter, Suited Execs convinced the YA Novel Genre MUST contain a new Gold Mine…somewhere. Similar to attempts at Cinematic Universes post-MCU, it’s rarely worked much.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 3 ай бұрын
ALMOST FORGOT this Advanced Sci-Fi Civilization from a YA Novel to Movie Adaptation that can be covered: The Magisterium from The Goldan Compass Film and His Dark Materials TV Show.
@hunterknight5261
@hunterknight5261 3 ай бұрын
I don't know what's dumber, the concept of this series as a whole, or the fact that there were enough executives in Hollywood who thought it was good enough to make movies out of for said movies to be made. It's like the author took the Hogwarts houses, amped them up a thousand times over, and made it so instead of one group harboring most of the racists they just made everyone a POS.
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 3 ай бұрын
9:15 so somebody made the old sith into cops?
@Paula1114S
@Paula1114S 3 ай бұрын
I have always thought that instead of Amity, they should have called that Faction Benevolence. That way they'd be A, B, C, D and E. It would have hinted at the whole "sorting" thing that was being done by the people outside.
@justme22154
@justme22154 3 ай бұрын
That'd be clever
@syeconner2269
@syeconner2269 3 ай бұрын
Baby, Wake up! Media Zealot uploaded.
@HeroNotFound05
@HeroNotFound05 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see you do one of these analysis videos, but for a fictional setting that has a GREAT civilisation, and you explain why it works so well
@peanut_butter_wizard1213
@peanut_butter_wizard1213 3 ай бұрын
It's cannon that the Amity faction are all drugged all the time to keep them so chill and happy
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